Another day, another Bush veto, another battle: The Swamp
 
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Posted November 13, 2007 10:52 AM
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by Mark Silva, and updated

President Bush has vetoed another spending bill: A $150.7-billion Labor, Health and Education appropriations bill.

This is the second spending bill that Bush has vetoed for over-spending (he also vetoed a children’s health insurance bill over objections for its extension of benefits). And Congress overrode the president’s veto of the other spending bill, a water resources development act.

Bush signed another appropriations bill, for Defense -- with the White House calling it "not a perfect bill, but "essential to deliver these funds to our military in a time of war.''

But, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said en route to Indiana with the president for a speech about the economy and congressional spending, the vetoed bill provided $10 billion more than the president wanted and included some 2,000 "earmarks'' -- special projects inserted at the behest of individual congressmen.

"He will ask Congress to take out the park and reduce the overall spending level and return it to him quickly,'' Perino said.

Democratic leaders are accusing the president, whose a speech in Indiana today iwill include complaints of excessive congressional spending, of playing “pure politics.’’

“The same president who is asking us to spend another $200 billion on the misguided war in Iraq and is insisting on providing $60 billion in tax cuts next year to folks who make over a million bucks a year, is now pretending to protect the deficit by refusing to provide a $6 billion increase to crucial domestic investments in education, healthcare, medical research and worker protections that will make this country stronger,’’ said Rep. David Obey, (D-Wis.), chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.

“That is not responsible and it is not credible,’’ Obey said of the vetoed bill. “There has been virtually no criticism of its contents. It is clear the only reason the president vetoed this bill is pure politics.”

Bush, in his veto message to Congress, wrote: "This bill continues to fund programs that are duplicative or ineffective. The Congress continues to fund 56 programs totaling more than $3.2 billion that I proposed to terminate because they are duplicative, narrowly focused, or not producing results.''

According to the committee, lawmakers rejected proposed cuts that the White House wanted in healthcare access, education, medical research, job training and grants to alleviate poverty and promote economic development. The bill offers a 4.3 percent increase in these programs, $6.2 billion above last year – while the White House proposed to cut $3.6 billion.

"With today's veto,'' said Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), "the president has shown once again how out of touch and out of step he is with the values of America's families. Cancer research, investments in our schools, job training, protecting workers, and many other urgent priorities have all fallen victim to a president who squanders billions of dollars in Iraq but is unwilling to invest in America's future."

This bill, like the water bill, could inspire another veto override. It passed the House by 274-141, with support from 50 Republicans.

A full analysis of the vetoed bill is available here.

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"healthcare access, education, medical research, job training and grants to alleviate poverty and promote economic development."

Why would Bush want to promote any of those thing? They don't advance his "Culture of Death". Think how many Iraqi civilians Blackwater and DynaCorp could kill without provocation with that money.


Disagreement between Bush and Congress is good for the American People. That's how it is intended to work. These two branches need to twist each other's arm. If Congress really wants something, they'll find a way. If the President really wants something, he'll have to negotiate. If not then neither will get anything. Fair enough. Just like you and your wife. Nobody will get all. Give some. Take some.

But, I'm not sure about the Judicial Branch thought. That's one Branch that is very unbalanced.


President Bush has vetoed another spending bill: A $150.7-billion Labor, Health and Education appropriations bill.

Posted by Mark Silva on November 13, 2007 10:52 AM | Permalink

I'm guessing Bush didn't need much time for this one... I'm sure he just saw the cover page, with the words "Labor, Health and Education" on it, said "pssshhh", and went reaching for his veto stamp.

Anything that doesn't have "war supplemental" in the title isn't worth taxpayer dollars.


More PORK, furnished by the Teddy Kennedy, the "king of Pork".

Get the veto pen out, Mr. president.


Read Bob Novak's column out today he tells how Harry Reid and Dickie Durbin with help from Nancy Pelosi coupled bills and Kay Bailey Hutchison got them unhooked. There's something like 2000 some pork projects the dynamic trio tryed to hide from GOP members.
President Bush is right tax money is confiscated from working families and we know best how to spend our money not the bloated federal government.
They were even hiding a South Dakota University Center to be named after Tom Daschle.
It's amazing to me how when Democrats lose office they all flock to Universities where the faculty are liberal socialist Democrats.
As Novak says the jinx up and Dingy Harry doesn't like it.Jerry White, Springfield, IL


You didn't include why he stamped a veto on the bill? Perhaps the Dem wolves are hungry for pork.

PS. Check your spelling


it is time to ask bush to go back to texas

not to pass a health or
education bill is a crime

then to ask for money to
help people that hate
each and every american child
is something we should not due



President Bush is right tax money is confiscated from working families and we know best how to spend our money not the bloated federal government.


Posted by: Jerry White | November 13, 2007 11:57 AM


What Jerry White votes for...

vs.

"The $1.6 trillion -- covering a time frame of 2002-08, translates into $20,900 for each American family of four, the report concludes.

For Iraq alone, the total is $1.3 trillion, $16,500 for each family."


What Jerry White gets.


You're a tool, Jerry. The earlier you realize it, the better for us all.

You'd rather have these fools smile in your face while they grab $20 grand out of your pocket making us less safe than spend $1 for a library for your kids... so long as the money aint being spent by those damn dirty liberals, right?


You'd rather have these fools smile in your face while they grab $20 grand out of your pocket making us less safe than spend $1 for a library for your kids... so long as the money aint being spent by those damn dirty liberals, right?

Posted by: crafty b | November 13, 2007 12:19 PM

now thats a well thought out, mature response...

So using your logic- as long as the Iraq war and the spending that goes with it continues- this makes it ok for congress to send bills like this, that possibly started as good ideas-libraries for my kids etc..., and then take more of our money by adding huge pet projects and pork over and above the original bill?

Whose face do you smile in when you try to sell that?

Our government earns no money- they do not give us libraries for our kids.. we buy them - bills like this make a $3 million dollar library cost $30 million..look at the amendments in this bill and the water bill that had been overridden... they are and were, both loaded with spending that had nothing to do with the original intent of the legislation.


now thats a well thought out, mature response...

So using your logic- as long as the Iraq war and the spending that goes with it continues- this makes it ok for congress to send bills like this, that possibly started as good ideas-libraries for my kids etc..., and then take more of our money by adding huge pet projects and pork over and above the original bill?

Whose face do you smile in when you try to sell that?

Our government earns no money- they do not give us libraries for our kids.. we buy them - bills like this make a $3 million dollar library cost $30 million..look at the amendments in this bill and the water bill that had been overridden... they are and were, both loaded with spending that had nothing to do with the original intent of the legislation.

Posted by: heartburn | November 13, 2007 12:39 PM

Heartburn... you're absolutely right. I agree that Pork is bad.. And it's not necessarily the concept of vetoing a bill due to pork..

It's the mountainous partisan hypocracy of THIS president grandstanding on responsible fiscal policy... after 6 years of unfettered, unaccounted for, and unchecked spending while HIS team was majority in congress.

It's the hypocracy of people like Jerry White who b*tch and moan about spending money on a library (regardless of how much), yet would no-doubt be against a Truman Committee-esque accounting of war spending, somehow painting it as a liberal machination against the war.

It's just the utter, Godzilla-sized hypocracy that drives me nuts, not the idea of cutting pork.

As an earlier poster mentioned... I don't remember the President threatening to veto the 2005 Transportation bill over Ted Stevens' Bridge to Nowhere, amongst countless other scaps of Republican pork he saw from 2000-2006, or deriding Stevens for openly bragging about being a pork-chasing hog. I just can't stand that our President is a Republican first, an American second...


I should've just left it at this (sometimes less is more):

"President Bush is right tax money is confiscated from working families and we know best how to spend our money not the bloated federal government."


Posted by: Jerry White | November 13, 2007 11:57 AM


What Jerry White votes for...


vs.


"The $1.6 trillion -- covering a time frame of 2002-08, translates into $20,900 for each American family of four, the report concludes.

For Iraq alone, the total is $1.3 trillion, $16,500 for each family."


What Jerry White gets.

You're a tool, Jerry. The earlier you realize it, the better for us all.


"BUSH SPEAKS"

THE WAR IS OVER, THE OCCUPATION IS WHAT IS COSTING THE MOST MONEY. IT WAS 2002 WHEN WE LOST 9 BILLION OF THOSE DOLLARS, THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
SUCCESS ON THE GROUND WILL NOT BE MEASURED BY 1.6 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT OR THE FACT THAT 3900 MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DIED, OR THE FACT THAT 55,000 ARE WOUNDED BEYOND A 75% BODY IMPAIRMENT.

THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. SUCCESS WILL BE MY LEGACY, MY LEGACY, MY LEGACY, MY LEGACY, MY LEGACY, AND MY LEGACY ALONE. WELL IT TOOK THE SUPREME COURT TO APPOINT ME, AND A FEW CAGED VOTES AND 49 MILLION PEOPLE WHO JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS GOING TO NOT READ NATIONAL SECURITY MEMOS RELATING TO AN IMMINENT ATTACK, BUT HIRE THE BEST DAMN REGENTS UNIVERSITY SPEECH WRITER FOR THAT 7AM EAST COAST SEE SPOT RUN, SEE AMERICA RUN SPEECH IN FRONT OF 2ND GRADERS.

THANK YOU 107TH, 108TH CONGRESS FOR STROKING THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF CHILDREN BORN AND TO BE BORN IN THIS COUNTRY.


I don't like "Pork spending" and I wish we could get rid of it. But it is a JOKE that Bush and the republicans try to take the moral high ground here. They act as if the democrats just invented it in the last six months and their followers (who are used to being led by the nose and told what to believe) dutifully repeat the talking points.

Between 2000 and 2006 "Prok" projects grew faster and wider than at any time in our history.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0508-24.pdf

At the same time our deficit grew exponentially.

Where was your Veto stamp then Mr. president?


I SEE ROGER MORRIS IS BACK.


and many millions more down Bush's bottomless, money-pit war.


This president proposed many increases in spending to the consternation of Conservatives, but doubling the increases make those with BDS seethe because he doesn't save money and spend it at the same time.
These arguements sound like an older one which began "They can send a man to the moon but" followed by something completely stupid. We went to war with the consent of Congress. Things don't always work as expected.


Yes, we can all see Roger Morris is back, but does anyone know what he's yelling about?? Caps lock reduces readability by ten%, it comes across as hostile shouting, and it increases your chances of being dismissed as an idiot without anyone reading your message. Abusing caps lock is abusing the golden rule of netiquette. Roger, October 22 is over you can stop celebrating now.


Yeah as long as it's about killing people, earboy and president chainsaw love it. If it's about quality of life for Americans, all of a sudden, it's a budget buster. And he claims to be a christian? Merry XMAS w.


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