Swift Boat veteran, GOPers rally around Rush

Huckabee said “I can’t think of anything that is a greater waste of their time, and my money as a taxpayer, and frankly Rush Limbaugh has the right to say anything he wants to. Last time I checked, the First Amendment has not been repealed.

Of course, that didn't apply when the republicrites wanted to condemn Move-on's Betrayus advertisement. Talk about chutzpah. I do not think the connies can get any more hypocritical.

The swift boaters calling people phony, now that is funny!

Isn't John O’Neill the guy Nixon recruited to slime Kerry in the seventies?

Sometimes the character of your defenders is more important than the accusations of your enemies.

That said Congress shouldn’t waste time on Limbaugh any more than they should have wasted time on Moveon.

"Mr." O'Neill:

Media Matters does not get any money from George Soros - just because you and the rest of the radical think it is true does not make it true.

So if John Murtha is a "phony" soldier, will either you OR Mr. Limbaugh say it to his face - or will you hide behind the rest of the right-wing media?

Time to put up or shut up!!

Why won't Republics comment on Rush comparing a wounded "phony" soldier to a suicide bomber? Are you folks pretending he didn't say such a thing?

Personally I am sickened by most of the media and congress, greatly by CNN. They have done more to kill and harm our troops than Osama Bin Laden. America's enemies know the power of the media and they are using it to break the will of the American people. I hate war, but if you believe that Iran, Russia or China getting control of the middle east oil is not a national security issue, then you must be riding a horse-drawn buggy. The only way...the only way...to protect our vital interest in this region is through 'nation-building'. That means taking the fight to the local tyrants that hate us for no other reason than our Blessings. Now, is it right that oil companies are making record profits that armament companies are raking in the dough...that to me is the 'wrongness'. I wish there were a 'perfect' solution a 'perfect' candidate....sorry thought, utopia is a liberal dream. Go Huck!

I'd add Limbaugh, Bush, Cheney, and nearly every other neocon to the list of phony soldiers. None of these tough-talking chickenhawks have ever seen active duty, and yet their thirst for war is unquenchable.

Oh, and one more thing. Why does the right continue to claim that Media Matters is funded or has ever been funded by George Soros? Yet another example of a coordinated misinformation campaign by the right.

Poor Rush, getting 'Swift-boated' like that!

So let me get this straight: Rush Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he wants, but the people of MoveOn.org don't? Is this the correct way of Republic thinking?

Of course, that didn't apply when the republicrites wanted to condemn Move-on's Betrayus advertisement. Talk about chutzpah. I do not think the connies can get any more hypocritical.

There is a huge difference between what Rush said and the Moveon add. Rush was referring to "phony soldiers", people that lie about being in combat. In fact, a Democratic congressman rightly produced legislation a couple of years ago to make this act illegal. There is a huge difference between calling out a criminal (as Rush did) and calling a General a traitor and a betrayer of his country". If you can't see that then you are more liberal than I thought.

Media Matters has NEVER been funded by George Soros, as they have said hundreds of times. But that fact hasn't stopped people like John O’Neill from continuing to spew this lie.

I challenge John O’Neill and all other Rush supporters to PROVIDE PROOF that George Soros has EVER funded Media Matters.

Rush Limbaugh is such a supporter of our troops that he's visited them in Iraq ONLY ONCE since 2003.

Compare that to someone who has visited the troops FOUR TIMES: Al Franken.

Birds of a feather....
What do expect to find in the pigs trough?

Speaking of "phony soldiers", didn't it come out that some of those swifties were lying , that they did not actually serve with Kerry, that they were not involved in the skirmish in which Kerry was commended for valor? Would that make them "phony sailors"? Of course not. But it does make them liars, libelous, slanderous, and men of dubious character.

65% of our service people disapprove of Bush's handling of this action in Iraq. It's time we honored them for once. This war seems to exist for war profiteers solely. That's why Bin Laden is still at large. If they caught him, there would be no more excuse to continue.

Need I mention that the war is being fought by mercenaries who are paid rates much higher than our soldiers and who are not bound by the UCMJ? How does that honor our troops? How does that reflect on us as a people? Pretty porrly, I think.

Limbaugh is not important. Neither is Hannity or all the many wannabe hosts on talk radio. The Senate needs to focus on ending Bush's war and doing the American peoples' business.

Explanation? Rush must be hitting the oxycotin and percodan again. It is so sad when the GOP must take heat and defend a drug addict. Rush isn't a conservative. He's an entertainer. Rush is the real phony soldier in the war on truth in this country. The conservatives fall on bended knee before this character, Cheney has him to dinner at the VPs house in DC. Objective hardly. BTW, how much time did Rush spend in the military?

Beltway Greg

Huckabee is right. You can say anything you want, but not without consequences. If Rush wants to denigrate good men's service to their country, then he's the one who needs to deal with the fallout. Personally, I think much of what Rush says is propaganda condoned by the Bush administration but unfortunately ClearChannel sees it differently.

This whole thing about Rush was completely taken out of context. The day before it all happened, Rush's morning update was all about that fake soldier. The next day, the comment is made, and people who don't listen to the show got the wrong idea. Anybody who listens to the show and knows Rush and knows the context, cannot possibly make the same conclusion as the left has here.

Rush spent no time in the military. After flunking out of college, he was reclassified to the lowest level becuase of a pilonidal cyst on his ass. Seriously. Supposedly, this type of cyst makes it hard to ride in jeeps; ironic though as he's made his living sitting on his butt. And his last marriage, the one officiated by Justice Thomas also ended in divorce. So much for family values. If he could sing he'd be Ozzy Osbourne.

Beltway Greg

Democrats claiming to support the troops...now THAT'S ironic!

This is a schoolyard brawl that reflects the quality of our Senate and House. MoveOn.org's ad was politically and morally stupid, as were Limbaugh's comments. And Media Matters is not a 'shill' for lefties; it has not accepted money from Soros. I'll be thrilled when one, or both sides get a story correct.

Kerry served in Vietnam as captain of a boat behind military lines, saw action and was wounded, even if slightly, three times. Call it what you may, but he is not a phony soldier. If Rush were referring to one soldier why use the plural? The real phony is Rush, though of course thinking people already know that.

Rush has never actually debated anyone so it’s no surprise that he’s hiding from Mr. McGough. Limbaugh’s a coward. He sits behind his microphone and belittles anyone who disagrees with him. His fans are sad, angry people who have little common sense and no real interest in learning about the real world.
Limbaugh’s a germ. He has been since the days when he played his little vacuum cleaner sound effect and encouraged callers to ask him to “abort” their calls on the air. As with many germs, his sickness is airborne. Radio waves have spread it far beyond the circle of influence he might have had in a saner world.
I can’t tell you how many people have contracted his disease but I’ve personally been threatened by three of his sycophants for comments I’ve made about him in the past. He encourages that sort of behavior. It’s a symptom of the disease to be angry when someone disagrees with Mr. Limbaugh’s “facts.”
Don’t expect Rush to apologize to or to meet with Mr. McGough. It’s not going to happen. I just hope that some of the infected will be cured by this event.

Nobody can "steal " valor.
Your honor is only yours to surrender.
Demagogue: One who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
Demagogues on both the extreme right and left are out there in hot pants and go - go boots waving you down hoping you take a look and flip 'em a $20 dollar bill.

Get a life

The right move is to get Limbaugh off of Armed Services Radio. He can say what he wants, but remove that forum from him immediately. He's a lying propagandist, and that's apparently just fine for the Dittohead Chickenhawk Brigade, but our troops should not have to hear lies and propaganda and the government CERTAINLY should not be allowing him such a forum for his garbage.

"The GOP Re-Believes in the First Amendment but not in and for MediaMatters, or Moveon.org."

"Swift Boat Veterans find picture of George Bush actually in uniform, actually standing next to a fellow guard mate"

Now that would decide who the phony soldier was that Rush was talking about. He is allowed to talk, but you would think that if Swift Boat Veterans are veterans; then why allow Rush to defame any soldier for that matter.

MEANWHILE BUSH IS RENDERING AMERICA TO CHINA, AND RUSSIA AND SANTA ISN'T GOING TO LAND ON THE ROOFS OF THE SAME CHILDREN THAT GOT SLAPPED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION.

swift boat that vets!

LIARS!!!!!

Media Matters for America, the group headed by conservative turned liberal writer David Brock, has changed course on its stated association with billionaire liberal financier George Soros.

After initially claiming on Dec. 1, 2004 that "neither Media Matters nor its president and CEO David Brock has received any money from Soros or from any organization with which he is affiliated," the group is no longer disavowing any connection with groups "affiliated" with Soros.

The Media Matters shift came after Cybercast News Service questioned the group's financial ties and demonstrated that there were numerous and extensive links between Media Matters and several Soros "affiliates" like MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress and Soros ally Peter Lewis.

Liars line up behind Limbaugh.

No news there.

"Media Matters does not get any money from George Soros"? Well, maybe not directly, but his money IS going to Media Matters.

With money from Soros, the group Democracy Alliance was formed for the purpose of being a funding clearinghouse for liberal groups. And according to an article published in Newsday on September 7, 2006, "That group [Democracy Alliance], which advises Democratic donors on where to spend their political contributions, has steered more than $6 million to Brock's group [Media Matters}in the past two years, say alliance members."

Also, Soros was instrumental in the creation of the Center for American Progress (pledging $3 million to it). The CAP, in turn, assisted Media Matters in it's creation.

Soro's fingerprints are all over Media Matters.

The already discredited "swiftboat" clowns just lend more credibility to the fact that Rush called our troops that oppose the war "phony soldiers" and then the fat draftdodging drug addict went and altered his transcripts to make it appear that he was only talking about "one" guy.
This is the same trick that Fox Noise Channel uses when Sean Insanity and Bill-O say something stupid.

I love it when doughboy Rush puts his foot in his piehole and his cheerleaders (ditto-heads) have to come on here and struggle to defend the pill popping dope...again.

Hey Stewart,
Take your head out of your bottom side. It amazes me how you Republicans can twist things anyway you want to make you look so great and think it is okay. The Standards by which our laws were written were to be used thwe same on everyone. I bet you would like to see a separate set of rules for the blacks and hispanics like in the Joe Crow days.

"Rush Limbaugh is such a supporter of our troops that he's visited them in Iraq ONLY ONCE since 2003.

Compare that to someone who has visited the troops FOUR TIMES: Al Franken."

Posted by: BC | October 4, 2007 11:45 AM

Al Franken is a joke to military men and women. It's sad the left compares him to Rush and holds HIM up as someone that supports the troops

Al Franken is a spokesman for the loony left, the same people that have accused the US military of slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent non-combatant Iraqi men, women and children. He’s a spokesman for those that accuse our military men and women of torturing prisoners in Guantanamo. He speaks for those that called Gen Petraeus a traitor.

Ever listened to Rush and what he says about the military every day? Our troops have.

phony military spouse
(That's for C.Morris)

Rush is all about making people angry and getting a rise out of them. That's what he does to add to his bank account. When his listeners finally decide that they have had enough of him spewing his type of hate, he'll go away. Until then, the rest of us should ignore him like the playground bully he is.

Phoney Soldier - Someone who falsifies military experience to help the enemy.

ABCNews did a story on them on 9/24/07 (here is the link: http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3645227 )

Rush did a morning up date on the same topic on 9/25/07.

On 9/26/07, he uses the term "Phoney Soldiers" during a call. As soon as the call ends, he references Jesse MacBeth from the previous mornings report.

This is a stunt by the liberal media to try to harm Rush.

This is the same media that published Jesse MacBeths story around the world, but without Rush, very few people would know that Jesse's stories were all lies.

Kudos to ABC for running the story on 9/24/07.

Anyone that heard Rush, or read the ENTIRE transcript knows what he was talking about. You have to read a few more sentences than what what published by MediaMatters to get the ENTIRE transcript.

Yes... here we are in the middle of another war and this nation finds it's public servants in a game of child like bickering.
That is all they seem to do....No I got that wrong, all they can do is tack extra spending on to bills that suck up the American Tax payers money.

Bicker and bicker thats all they do and nothing more.
It's time to kick all of them out and start over.
Thank You

"I can’t think of anything that is a greater waste of their time, and my money as a taxpayer"

I can think of one thing that's a much bigger waste of America's time and money. I'll give you a hint, it starts with an I and ends with a Q. Huckabee is a joke as a nominee anyway, who cares what he has to say.

GOPers? I believe the correct term is GOPster denoting the moral mobster

lochnessmonster:

Like a playground bully, ignoring them perpetuates the problem, it doesn't change the behaviour. If people call out Rush, hopefully, some of the people who buy into his crap will hear and start to think differently.

Sad to say, that if someone is faking being a soldier, it undermines the reality and gives people like Rush a tool to undermine legitimate stories. I agree with Rush, is is deplorable.

The Left is the Left, the Right is the Right and apparently we are far past the ability to find a middle.

I do not think I will ever be convinced the Liberal thinkers of today are correct in the path they want to lead our country. The next time this will really matter is the next time America is attacked.

We were not prepared in 2001 following 8 years of Democratic leadership that made our military weaker and failed to take action when they had the opportunity to do so. Since 2001 our military - all volunteers - have become stronger and more committed to protecting our democracy and defeating terrorism under Republican leadership. We have disrupted planned attacks and the successes in Iraq since the surge have been measurable. Where are those headlines?

The Right could do a lot of things better, but compared to the lack of any smart alternative course of action from the Left we look like geniuses.

And Pete - 65% of our service people disapprove of Bush's handling of this action in Iraq?

That's why the Left is the Left and the Right is the Right..

I wonder how many times Cheney and Co. will have the likes of Limbaugh to dinner after they leave office? Limbaugh and others of the radical Right have been useful mouth-pieces for Republican candidates who need, or needed, their votes. As social equals, however, they are hardly in the rich Right's league. Has anyone ever known the Republicans to be egalitarian? I'll bet Limbaugh and his ilk are quaking in their boots at the prospect of Democrats and democracy coming to power in Washington, as well they should be.

Limbaugh, like his friends over at Fox, stirs up the masses, that's all. The lowest common denominator is just that: common. Unfortunately, they are also numerous --- hence the high ratings and idiots in office.

I wonder how many times Cheney and Co. will have the likes of Limbaugh to dinner after they leave office? Limbaugh and others of the radical Right have been useful mouth-pieces for Republican candidates who need, or needed, their votes. As social equals, however, they are hardly in the rich Right's league. Has anyone ever known the Republicans to be egalitarian? I'll bet Limbaugh and his ilk are quaking in their boots at the prospect of Democrats and democracy coming to power in Washington, as well they should be.

Limbaugh, like his friends over at Fox, stirs up the masses, that's all. The lowest common denominator is just that: common. Unfortunately, they are also numerous --- hence the high ratings and idiots in office.

So if all the lefities are running so hard to distance Media Matters from George Soros .... are they tacitly admitting that Soros is and his money are dirty.

It sure looks that way.....

James and Clint,
I suggest you fellas get English lessons from an illegal immigrant. Even they know that "soldiers" is plural form and plural means more than one. If Rush was referring to ONE soldier why was he using a PLURAL word? Your English sucks.

Amazing how many people will defend Rush as having specifically meant only guys who fake up military service, after he then continued his slander after being challenged in an ad by a soldier who showed the traumatic head wound he received in service. Did he (R L) mean only the faux soldiers the first time? Maybe, maybe not. But his response to this wounded veteran shows that if he didn't encompass all soldiers who disagreed with him the first time he talked about it on his show, he certainly enlarged his definition of 'phony soldiers' later. The 'ENTIRE TRANSCRIPT' of the one show doesn't show the whole story. The 'context' continues in Rush's words and actions even after the show.

Anyone that heard Rush, or read the ENTIRE transcript knows what he was talking about. You have to read a few more sentences than what what published by MediaMatters to get the ENTIRE transcript.

Posted by: James | October 4, 2007 1:03 PM

I've read the REAL transcript
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/27/limbaugh-troops-supporting-us-withdrawal-phony-soldiers/
(not the one doctored up by the AM radio Nazi druggie) and Limpdong said "PHONEY SOLDIERS" not "SOLDIER"....you Wingnut sheeple need to quit believeing everything that this fat draftdodging drug addict says andstart thinking for yourselves

It is amazing how so many have no respect for our troops in the field. I served honorably, as do most, and the overwhelmingly support for this mission inside the military is over 80%, why you ask? They know the truth, unlike the many of you, who would rather follow Hillary right of the edge. Just remember, you who vote for her are to blame.

James - you've been taken by Rush!

That "ENTIRE transcript" you refer to is another lie Rush created to defend himself. In fact it is NOT the entire transcript - Rush edited out a couple minutes of conversation to try to make it appear that the "soldiers" comment was falsely in the context of talking about Jesse. In fact, it simply wasn't - the comments were separated by more than two minutes of unrelated conversation.

Rush is the phony here - a good object lesson in how drugs distort your brain.

will conservatives ever admit failure of anything?
drinking rush's kool-aid just makes you less able to cope with an ever-changing world.
critical thinkers so scare
conservatives but innovation never flowed from followers.
think for yourself, for a change.

When a Democrat gets elected President next year, will Rush still support the Administration and this never-ending war?

- a FGO who supports the Democrats

I'd have to bash my head into the wall more than a few times to lower my IQ enough to listen to Limbaugh. Just reading second hand whatever idiocy he has spounted most recently is sufficiently enlightening to re-inforce my belief that his preferred audience is comprised of nitwits, the uninformed, maladapts, the ethically-challenged, the delusional, lame-brains and sluggards.
You can't take Limbaugh or his supporters seriously. You might as well ask your dog for the same sort of "informed" opinion.

blah blah blah blah blah. If the "he-said-she-said" is this bad now, can you imagine what its going to be like in the coming year. And the last time I heard, Limbaugh's picture isn't hanging on some wall in HoChiMin City like Mr. Kerry's picture is.

This article must be linked to a left wing blog.

Angry left wingers spouting their typical trash. I see ad hominem attacks, ignorance of what their hero Jesse MacBeth did, and they're usual cheney/bush derangement syndrome.

This article doesn't even mention Bush or Cheney, yet the rabid lefties whine on...

Well,what do you expect,in Europe,Australia, and New Sealand people think that the people living in America must be pretty dumb, 60% voted twice for Bush,and there were enough smart people left to out vote these dummies. Now we have over a million dead Iraqies, 4000 dead US soldiers and 26.000 wounded for life,and all the for oil.

Yawn.

Even here, the right-wing's phony information soldiers continue to claim Media Matters is funded by George Soros (either directly or indirectly).

Please cite your references then when debunking the Media Matters link below. Media Matters takes great care in documenting its claims with links and references.
If anyone wants to challenge what they say, please provide contradictory evidence instead of parroting what you heard on Rush or O'Reilly.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200705090002

"Now we have over a million dead Iraqies"

Looks like Jesse MacBeth, the hero of the left, did a lot of damage while he was in Iraq......

This piece is not journalism, but just another example of how media (even supposedly liberal media) simply runs whatever some self-appointed newsmaker says so they don't have to bother with real reporting. MOST of this article is literally just a long quotation from O'Neill, who should be accorded no credibility given that it turned out that Swift Boat Veterans was such a malicious fraud. Nothing says "I support the troops" like slandering the service records of combat heroes like Kerry and Cleland in support of draftdodgers, cowards, and chickenhawks like Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.
That the Sun would give such a loathsome individual credibility is sad.

Toto:
Kerry's picture is hanging in a museum of the Vietnam War. We have lots of pictures of Nazi troops in DC at numerous memorials: does that mean we think they're great or support Nazism?
Try to pay attention to SOME substance instead of letting yourself be manipulated by anyone who knows what simplistic buttons to push to make you jump.

The comment Rush said refered to "soliders" who never served and then came out to talk about war crimes that were never committed. Rush's comments weren't taken out of context they were purposely changed to make the comment mean something he didn't say. Media matters heard it and tried to make it an issue. congress then tries to make it an issue. Where is the congressional outrage regarding "moveon.org". Their comments didn't need to be fabricated. They were very direct in what they meant and they were treasoness. The left hate Rush cause he has a large following of people opposed to their socialistic views and will go after him with any lie they can pin on him. My question is how do we censure or fire congress

"utopia is a liberal dream"
Well, yes, after dimwits W and Dick start an UNNECESSARY WAR. May they burn in hell.

people that lie about being in combat, hmmm, I heard Bill O'Reilly tell a Colonel he had been in combat. He explained what kind of torture he'd be willing to do to save lives. Never mentioned that "in combat" meant as a reporter.

I had not listened to Limbaugh for some time but because of the controversy listened today. His show is much more self promotion than in previous years. One observation, you can tell that the average listener must be complete moron from the advertisers of the show. Get rich quick schemes, hair growing lotion, right wing books, risky gold buying advise and included very few traditional advertisers.

Rush's comments have been twisted for the liberal's sick usage. You commenters seem to think that if we disagree with you, we're wrong. Quit oppressing me. Fascist!

Limbaugh pushes the talking point that support for Bush's occupation policy=supporting soldiers. In his view, fake soldiers=soldiers who do not support Bush's policy.

Moveon.org called out Gen. Petraeus for selling the success of Bush's occupation policy. In their view, support for Bush's occupation policy does not equal support for soldiers.

The issue is Bush's occupation policy.

1. NY Times Op-Ed entitled The War As We Saw It.

2. No End in Sight (documentary film)

3. The Bush Agenda (Juhasz)

4. Fiasco (Ricks)

These sources make the case that Bush's occupation policy was not implemented with the best interests of soldiers in mind. Soldiers are being asked to carry out an impossible mission.

What kind of idiot joins an all voluntary army and then bitches about having to go to war? That is what they are being paid to do. No one is paying them for their opinion. There are enough opinion givers out there without the cry baby phoney soldiers giving theirs. I totally agree with Rush on this one, even though I don't always agree with his stances.
I am a Vietnam Vet and have earned the right to give my opinion.
The Move-on homos on the other hand have no right to slander a standing General who is doing his job, and who at the time hadn't even gone before Congress to give his report. Huge difference. Move-On is an organizat of traitors to the USA. PERIOD!!!

I wish the Dems in congress would quit trying to appease the right, and just worry about keeping the Democratic voters on their side. Earth to Democrats in congress. Screw what the republicans think about you. They aren't going to vote for you, no matter what you do, and nothing is going to change that. Petraeus or Betray Us? So what? He's nothing but a Bush lackey. Repubs can cry all they want about it. It's true. Live with it.

Question for Duh above. You're a Viet Nam vet? What do you think of Westmoreland and Calley? Great Americans? Do you think there aren't any Viet Nam vets that are members of MoveOn.Org?? Wake up, Bozo.

What kind of idiot joins an all voluntary army and then bitches about having to go to war?
Posted by: DUH... | October 4, 2007 3:43 PM

An American one...one who has the ability, education and freedom to speak up if they feel they feel they are being abused for some other purpose than the security of this country. Remember, the military are not ruling this country. They are not gods.You've earned your right to give your opinion, but not any more than Move-On or anyone else.

Don't use your own anger over having been abused to condemn others. It won't heal what you've been through. I wish peace for you and all those that stand up to serve and are taken advantage of. The honor of the uniform is not diminished by that.

""utopia is a liberal dream"

"dystopia is a conservative reality"

For all you right wing ditto heads - one question:

The next day, Rush called Jack Murtha a phony soldier. He then compared the young soldier in the ad against him from VoteVets to a suicide bomber - even though he said that HE HAD NOT SEEN THE AD IN QUESTION. Kind of interesting that the soldier in question had been injured by a suicide bomber.

So if Rush is so right on this, why won't he have either Jack Murtha or Mr. McGough on his show and tell them they are phony soldiers and tools of the left TO THEIR FACES??????

Please answer this question - even though you know in your hearts that Rush is too much of a chicken to say that either of these veterans.

C. Morris - You're a hater...of truth, life and the way, just my opinion. I am a moderate...born in sin and born stupid, with God's help hopefully some of us will get out of here with our sanity intact. But to those that spew hatred of this country and our efforts to help those that live in fear, with nothing to look forward to than the gun at their head not getting the trigger pulled...I mean, there are evil people in this world and although I'm not a George Bush fan, I don't hate him. Do you want Iran, Russia or China running the show? Oh I forgot...Chavez will take care of us...well my...why don't I just let him. Is Freedom Free? That's my question to you...and to attack those that protect yours and defend those that say they will give you everything you ever wanted. To me...you already have it, don't let anyone take it away...that's all.

Anyone that is not brainwashed by a political side can see what the truth is if they just do a little research and actually listen to the audio tapes that are floating around the internet. Anyone can see that Rush was not refering to anti-war soldiers as "phony soldiers", but those soldiers that where convicted or had been accused of lying about there service to our country. I personally could care less about this kind of stuff as it is just a battle back and forth between the two sides, but im afraid that to the rest of the country this story makes democrates look real bad. Anyone can see the democratic party are really struggling to cover up the moveon ad story that really blew up in the media and im afraid that the democrats just came out with this attack a bit too early to do them any good. Now i know how much the left defends Rush and how much the right hates him, but this story is just absurd because anyone with a non biased view can easliy see what is really going on and what was said was taken way out of context. Im afraid this story is just another "score one for the republicans" to the rest of the "free thinking" country. I have been quite disapointed in the democrats nowadays with there attacks on the service men and now trying to cover it up. Think its time to swing back toward the right wing side for now on this issue. maybe once the dem's get there act together i can once again swing left wing.

"DUH" says he was in Nam and he asks why the soldiers on the ground would oppose the war? I find these two concepts difficult to reconcile. I was a volunteer in the early 70's, and even then there was an enormous dissatisfaction, except from the officers. So that can be the only answer. But the text does not show any of the things we know about officers, such as a high level of education. So I remain baffled. For now, I don't believe a vet from Nam would have any difficulty understanding low troop morale. Maybe he was really stationed in Germany? Or maybe he was a cook on a destroyer that never saw action, like me. Even so, how could he not understand the average soldier?

And calling a PAC "traitors" is just totally against everything we swore to defend. I don't believe him.

Hey, "DUH", what do you think of these mercenaries (they call them contractors) who get paid many many times what our soldiers are paid, who get better equipment, and who are not subject to the UCMJ? Doesn't that seem wrong to you, as a veteran, if you really are one?

As an OIF Veteran I totally support Rush. Liberals have the right to say what they want, why shouldn't he? The "phony soldiers" are the few and no one really cares about their opinion. Most of us in the military still support this war and are tired of you people not serving thinking you know what is best for us. We will stick to fighting for freedom and defending this country, you can stick to getting up every morning and going to your cushy job. Stop sticking your nose in something that you are not a part of. When the military as a majority starts protesting than you can express your disapproval of this war. Until then, let us who have the courage and pride to fight do our job so you can continue to do whatever it is that gets you out of bed. That minority of service members who protest the war are just looking for someone to blame. They, and their families, knew what they signed up for. They ARE phony and just looking for attention.

It is not acceptable to conflate support of civilian command policies with support of soldiers in harms way. Yet that is exactly what the GOP does.

Exporting democracy by way of Shock and Awe and a privatization agenda? Come on. That is absurd. The civilian command has exploited the military at every turn. People opposed to the occupation understand that soldiers have been asked to carry out an impossible mission. GOP talking points do nothing to help soldiers serving in Iraq.

Why is anybody still listening to anything Rush Limbaugh says? He'll say anything, no matter how disconnected from reality, to keep his name in the headlines. ANYTHING. It doesn't have to make sense. And the media promptly falls in line and reports every snide, sick, idiotic thing that dribbles out of his piggish mouth. I actually feel sorry for Limbaugh. I told him that, once, on his show; that I saw him as the fat kid in grade school who was always picked last for dodgeball and who got fewer Valentines than the other kids. He talked wildly, right over me, not really saying anything lucid, so I doubt he heard me. It was far more important, in Limbaugh World, to feel that he'd won any sort of confrontation than to respond to anything real, after all. I've seen it in people I've met: a Seattle attorney who threw her weight around and acted like she operated under the Divine Right of Kings. We had a run-in one day and I said just that to her: she was the fat, ungainly kid who wasn't as popular as the other girls and plotted her revenge: "I'll go to law school and become an attorney and then I'LL be the powerful one, the one who's in charge! That'll show 'em!" She left crying. I'm not at all proud of saying that. It was said in anger but it hit the mark. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't. But that's Rush to a "T". Some pathetic, overweight, schlub who couldn't wait to get even with the world. And we're all letting him do it. He's a lightweight non-entity who's been blown up into prominence by our tendancy to legitimize anyone who speaks loudly. It's about time we stop treating him like he's actually making a point. He's a pathetic little drip and what he says is all in that vein. Ignore him and he'll go away, along with the rest of the lame-os who blindly parrot everything he says.

The # 1 Phony soldier you will never here Rush talk derogatorily about is our own president, the coward who hid out in Alabama instead of going to Viet Nam

I Joined the army in 1971, wounded 3 times and I saw many phony SOLDIERS in my life. Most of them are Democrats or Liberals. That is the reason why they attack Rush.

Rush Limbaugh can say what he wants.

I have a war story that's 100% true and may surprise you.

In the fall of 2003, I was playing catch with my son on the front lawn of my mother-in-law's house in suburban Chicago.

A Mustang drives by. It slows and turns into the alley. It doubles back and stops 15 feet from where we're tossing the ball.

Out steps a 6' 6'' serviceman. He's black. He wears green military camouflage. A crisp beret covers his head. Ramrod straight, he crosses the parkway. He strides directly at us. Now he's within two feet of my face.

He looks and motions at the anti-war signs I'd put up on the lawn. He leans in at me. He glances left, then rignt. Then, in an almost conspiratorial voice, confides, "I just want to tell you that a lot of us in Iraq want to say exactly the same thing you're saying but we're not allowed to speak out.'

A minute late he was gone.

My son's jaw must have dropped a foot.

True story.

-Armando

I see John O'Quinn was SWIFT BOATED TO THE TUNE OF $33 MILLION, couldn't happen to a nicer guy

Duh, HOMO, who uses the word HOMO...
Why doesn't Duh spread a little more hate.

John Kerry was a true war hero and American patriot. The Swiftboaters lied...
Peace,
Terry DuBose, Viet Nam 67-68

Philander, drug addict, draft dodger and now well-known chickenhawk. All he is a wealthy low life. Why does anyone listen to Rush Limbaugh?

Posted by: Jack | October 4, 2007 12:45 PM

Got links to web sites providing evidence of your allegation?

I also need to add racist. This is the “take to bone out of your nose” quote. http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp

For a while Rush was trying to maintain that he was 4F for the draft because of a football injury bad knee. And then the real story came out. http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.asp

And chicken hawk; he fits the definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(politics)

Drug addict: It is well known that he got himself addicted to OxyContin but prior to that he had said that drug users should go to jail. It’s sad that after his problem, he didn’t the airways launch a crusade against drug addiction. I listened to him when he came back and he just swept it under the rug as if it had never happened.

Philander: He unceremoninisly suddenly dropped Marta his third wife and married a production assistant. I can’t imagine that there wasn’t any hanky-panky going on. The whole thing was kept very quiet and I’ll bet that a lot of money changed hands.

I’m not perfect for sure but I don’t say that I am.

"Is Freedom Free? That's my question to you...and to attack those that protect yours "

Paul,

That would John Kerry who fought. Rush was hiding behind his,,err,,,behind.

Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. His expertise is to bring listeners and funds to his syndicated programming group. I stand by his right to say anything he chooses..then again, I have the right to not listen or not buy products advertised on his program. For me, I am not influence by what he says or thinks. I have my own thoughts.

I've had the opportunity to listen and view Rush's comments. Personally, I think he was dead wrong in what he said. I'm not as disturbed at Rush Limbaugh as much as I am at those that are using veterans such as myself for political gain. Rush owes us all an apology.

I disagree with Rush on about everything; and I suggest anyone who feels the same listen to his show. It's a laugh a minute. At least you'll know what the loonies are saying. I find that more enlightening and amusing then sitting around listening to people on the left preach to the choir all day long. If I hear one more person waste my time by pointing out that there were no WMD's in Iraq, I'll stick cotton in my ears. Better to know the enemy than sit around telling each other what you already know. Rush comes from a long line of draft dodging nutjobs (Bush, Cheney, Rove, Bohner, Craig, and so many others); How come normal men don't get anywhere in the Republican Party? I don't like the Democratic party much at all, but at least there's a few non-phony men in that party. Why doesn't Rush come clean on why he goes to the Dominican Republic without his wife, and he brings viagra.

Swiftboat discredited? Not yet, still waiting on John to sign his 180.
If the only thing you saw was the MoveOn transcript then it was all you wanted to see. But discredited? when, where and how?

Okay, let's clear some facts. Limbaugh used the same plural as ABC did a few days earlier. They referred to McBride, Beauchamp, and others who have tried to get veterans benefits and were exposed as phoney soldiers. Second, the libs always refer to Kerry as a war hero, and said his actions warranted his being elected as President. When Clinton ran, his draft-dodging came up and those same libs said "So what? That was 30 years ago" Tom Karkin also attacked Limbaugh, mentioning his past drug problems. But...It seem that Harkin had "embellished" his record in Viet Nam. He claimed to be a jet fighter pilot...but he wasn't. Then , he said he flew spy planes over Cuba...but he didn't. The truth is that he was a "ferry pilot" who never was remotely close to combat. Now. Mediamatters...At the Kos convention earlier, Hillary Clinton bragged about she started and supported Mediamatters and the Center for American progress. They say she didn't. Who's lying? If it's Hillary, she is proven to be a liar, if it's mediamatters, why are the "trusted" networks, MSNBC and NBC taking their word as fact?

Okay, let's clear some facts. Limbaugh used the same plural as ABC did a few days earlier. They referred to McBride, Beauchamp, and others who have tried to get veterans benefits and were exposed as phoney soldiers. Second, the libs always refer to Kerry as a war hero, and said his actions warranted his being elected as President. When Clinton ran, his draft-dodging came up and those same libs said "So what? That was 30 years ago" Tom Karkin also attacked Limbaugh, mentioning his past drug problems. But...It seem that Harkin had "embellished" his record in Viet Nam. He claimed to be a jet fighter pilot...but he wasn't. Then , he said he flew spy planes over Cuba...but he didn't. The truth is that he was a "ferry pilot" who never was remotely close to combat. Now. Mediamatters...At the Kos convention earlier, Hillary Clinton bragged about she started and supported Mediamatters and the Center for American progress. They say she didn't. Who's lying? If it's Hillary, she is proven to be a liar, if it's mediamatters, why are the "trusted" networks, MSNBC and NBC taking their word as fact?