Rush reply to attacking veteran: Suicide bomber: The Swamp
 
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Posted October 2, 2007 5:59 PM
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by Mark Silva

Radio’s Rush Limbaugh, at war with Democrats over his remark about “phony soldiers,’’ today offered a bold new description for the wounded Iraq veteran whom anti-war veterans have placed in cable TV and radio ads criticizing Limbaugh for his controversial commentary.

Suicide bomber.

“This is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said and then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media and a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into,’’ Limbaugh said today.

“This man will always be a hero to this country with everyone. Whoever pumped him full of these lies about what I said and embarrassed him with this ad has betrayed him, they aren’t hurting me. They are betraying this soldier.’’

But it was a real life suicide bomber who had attacked the soldier in question, it turns out, leaving him with head wounds and a Purple Heart that we see in his ad complaining about the radio host, and when the soldier caught wind of Limbaugh’s complaint today, he only escalated the conflict.

“I have seen the aftermath of a real suicide bomber,’’ veteran Brian McGough wrote today in an email to a liberal weblog.

“So, Rush Limbaugh called me a ‘suicide bomber,’ said the anti-war veteran. "More slander from the high and mighty sitting in his chair nursing the boils on his ass. I can assure you that I am no suicide bomber and that I can think for myself.’’

The VoteVets group certainly thinks so. The coalition of anti-war veterans is featuring McGough in an ad airing this week on the Fox News Channel and on CNN as well as on the radio stations in Washington and Palm Beach, Limbaugh’s home base, that air his radio show.

All this, of course, in response to the initial comment that Limbaugh made last week during a discussion with radio callers about people calling for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq – “phony soldiers,’’ said Limbaugh, later in the week insisting that he had only one phony in mind, the imposter Jesse MacBeth.

He then went on to add Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Pa.), retired Marine colonel and Iraq war opponent, to a roster of “genuine phony soldiers.’’ And this led to the VoteVets ad campaign.

“Rush, your phony soldier comments pissed me off,’’ McGough continued in an email posted today by DailyKos.com, that liberal weblog, responding to the report of Limbaugh’s newest comment. Brandon Friedman, a VoteVets member, reported it in his "diary'' on the site. "The audacity of someone like you who never had the courage to stand and fight for what you believe in makes my head spin,'' McGough wrote, Friedman reports.

McGough wrote that his anger for Limbaugh’s comments is “what made me stand up and state my convictions in front of a camera. I wanted to point out that you are wrong. I am not a phony soldier.

“I believe that we are not doing the right thing for national security by staying in Iraq,’’ McGough continued. “We are putting too much strain on our military by extending tours and not giving people enough time at home to rest. We have taken our eye off of the real Al-Qaeda and let them regroup to their pre-9/11 strength.’’

You can see the ad in which he appears:

Limbaugh responded to the ad today by insisting that VoteVets.org is using McGough as a carrier of lies – mainly the contention that Limbaugh was talking about war-protesting soldiers in general, which he certainly appeared to be doing at the time. His remarks, he says, were aimed at Jesse MacBeth, who had claimed to witness atrocities in Iraq but never really served there.

Limbaugh claims he is the victim of a ''smear.''

Fox News reports on Limbaugh’s remarks.

Then a writer for DailyKos published McGough's reply by email:

“I stood in the sand, snow, dirt, mud and dust of both Afghanistan and Iraq. I spent over a week on a side of a mountain in Afghanistan during Operation Anaconda. I received The Bronze Star medal for my actions during that battle. I crossed the border into Iraq with the first wave of the 101st Airborne.

“I sustained an open head injury on the streets of Mosul after a vehicle borne IED exploded next to the vehicle I was riding in. I have seen the aftermath of a real suicide bomber. I had loved ones who died in the 9/11 attacks. I have friends and colleagues who returned from the war in body bags.

“How dare you call someone like me a phony soldier and a suicide bomber? In the commercial I just taped, I told you unless you had the guts to say something to my face, stop telling lies about my service. Well you haven't had the guts to say it to my face, but I am waiting and the offer is still on the table."

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Rush wants to address phony soldiers and suicide bombers? Let him volunteer his fat, phony, drug addicted ass for Iraq.


Hmm, I wonder how long it will take the left's latest human shield to grow fed up with the DNC that's using him? It was a little more than a year for Cindy Sheehan. Let's see how long this one lasts.


p.s. . Isn't it great when no one edits the posts? Or bothers to do any factchecking before taking their marching orders from leftist groups like votevets and DailyKos?


Hey moderator, if Rick Sneads can say "ass" in his post why was it edited out of mine? I'm going to enjoy this justification. It's okay for one side to say it, but not the other, eh?


everyone who wants to expose the hypocrisy of the posting system here type the exact same word that Rick Sneads used, that refers to a part of the human anatomy, in his post and see if it sees the light of day.


I think the facts about what one says should be aired in its entirety. Sound bites used to fit ones agenda are a disgrace. The political parties need to address the other issues in this country also. The people need to demand honesty from our politicians and stop acting like children calling each other names.


whine whine whine


"AFN SPEAKS, YES YOUR ARMED FORCES NETWORK TELLS RUSH LIMBAUGH SHUT UP" PLEASE SHUT UP OR WE WILL HAVE TO CANCEL YOUR SUNDAY EVANGELICAL MESSAGE OF THE PHONY SOLDIER.

I mean he is simply insulting the STARS and STRIPES that he is so lucky to be able to address weekly.

I think calls to your local senator to dump his show at least where all soldiers of all walks thats walking the walk and talking the talk on behalf of us shouldn't be subject to anything else RUSH LIMBAUGH HAS TO SAY ABOUT ANYTHING.

Next soldiers will just be a pimple or boil on George Bush and Dick Cheney's administration. Phony Pimples looking for a deferment or two weeks off from their third 18 month tour in IRAQ.

KICK HIM TO THE CURB NATO!


Anonymous, time to stop playing on the computer and take your meds. Come along dear little boy.


Nice Mark,
You've gone from taking Rush out of context to putting words into his mouth.

The death spiral of Mark Silva's journalism skills continue.


Rush wasn't referring to McGough, he was referring to the fakes, who have never worn the uniform, but claim they did.
McGough, are you going to alleged you committed war crimes?


Top Ten Reasons Rush is an @$$:

10. He's Rush
9. dittoheads
8. ' boil boil buttocks trouble...'
7. Rush = ✺
6. Everything he says
5. Makes Beavis look like a civil engineer
4. Makes Butthead look,,,,civil
3. Plans to release a Christian rock album (In spite of his Jewishness)
2. 'One Rush per billion - UNACCEPTABLE!!'
1. 'Terri Schiavo; ('nuff said)


Why is it news that Democrats and Rush Limbaugh are fighting. It's just more of the same, when is this hippocryte going to lose his audience? And when are the Democrats gonna stop worrying about what some idiot says and do something in Congress? Our country was founded on checks and balances and no one wants to compromise they just want to bicker at each other. The need for term limits has never been greater.


"More slander from the high and mighty sitting in his chair nursing the boils on his ass...."

As a chronic sufferer of abscesses on the posterior and being staunchly Republican, I am deeply offended by this reckless use of the b-word in this most august of forums.

When will you Lefty Loonies stop referring to spontaneous skin eruptions as "zits", "whiteheads" (another term I eschew), and the aforementioned b-word, and lend dignity to those afflicted with Compulsive Abscesses Disorders?

Thank you, Mark Silva, for bringing this matter to a head.

(Irony: I need to enter the letter "b" in the field below to post.)


Why are republicans worried about hypocrisy in a posting system and not Rush's nationally broadcasted comments? Perhaps those lost so far to the right should reevaluate what makes them "the moral party".


Why let radio/movie/entertainment personalities stir up all this fuss. None of them have the power to stop or govern the mess we are in..keep the heat on the candidates..don't let the non players hog the news.


Rush is not the proper name for Limbaugh. Call him America's Lord Hee Haw or Ocycontin Limbaugh. He is nothing more than a fifth columnist for the American Fascist/Nazi Party trying to destroy America from within. He and the things that he supports are the ones that really Hate America.


Dear Mr. Silva,
In you story in http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/rush_reply_to_attacking_vetera.html, you say “All this, of course, in response to the initial comment that Limbaugh made last week during a discussion with radio callers about people calling for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq – “phony soldiers,’’ said Limbaugh, later in the week insisting that he had only one phony in mind, the imposter Jesse MacBeth.”

You misrepresent! Limbaugh said *at the original time* that by phony he was referring to MacBeth and I believe that he may have mentioned another ex-soldier who did something about a year ago). I heard the original at the time with my own two ears. ABC on their site had a link directly to the transcript on Rush’s site. You would do well to do the same.

Yours, JohnH

(Silva's note: I did listen. He did not explain his phony soldiers comment at the time as a reference to Jesse MacBeth -- but later spoke of MacBeth. We've also run the transcript at this site. Listen closer., please, and thank you for the comment, as well as the reading.)


Please, now all of a sudden the Demorats care about our soldiers? Why then did they totally Senator Kerry, making him eat alone when he dropped in on them in Iraq? The reason this war is going the way it is is because the surrender monkey Demorats have fought us instead of the enemy all this time. Let's make Harry Reed Secretary of Defense and see how well the soldiers like that. Quit embarrassing yourselves with your propaganda.


Attention all dittoheads:
1) Rush attacked the Move-On.Org "Betrayus" ad (rightly so) as a viscious attack on a soldier's loyalty.
2) Rush visiously attacks soldiers who are opposed to the war as "phony." His transcript is online for all to read.
3) Rush EDITS his transcript to falsify it and make it seem like he was talking about Jesse M. and reads his EDITED transcript on air and lies, saying it's the UNedited transcript -- as if no one out here has the original!
4) Rather than simply apologizing for any confusion, saying EVERY soldier is a genuine patriot, even the many soldiers now fighting who are opposed to the war, Rush FURTHER defends his defenseless slurs and compounds them with "suicide bomber" as if the soldier didn't have free will, or a brain to decide for himself.
5) So, in short, Rush is being judged by his own measure -- if MoveOn.Org was wrong, then HE MUST BE WRONG and should apologize without equivocation.

But he won't, because Rush and his dittoheads really don't believe patriots are opposed to this screwed up Bush adventure in Iraq, they DO believe soldiers who object are "phony," and no one, not even those fighting for them, have a right to disagree with them.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire


Rush is a phony human being. His number one motive is making money for Rush by doing his act, at the center of which is never admiting you were wrong, never apologizing or ever showing remorse. Unless you have been busted on a drug rap.

James M, your use of "us" demonstrates everything that is wrong with your weak excuse for an argument. Try thinking of this country in terms of "we", as in all Americans. It may disturb you, but we're all in this together.


p.s. . Isn't it great when no one edits the posts? Or bothers to do any factchecking before taking their marching orders from leftist groups like votevets and DailyKos?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2007 6:24 PM

Isn't it great when no one edits the posts? Or bothers to do any fact checking before taking their marching orders from facist groups like moveamericaforward and freedomswatch?

Hey anonymous, you are almost as gutless as Rush. Too chicken to print your name?


Libtards can't stand the truth. Rush, in no way said what the left wing extremist medial said he did. I heard it live and over again from his website.

Jessie McBeth is the Phony Soldier, so is Murtha


It is a well known fact that the truth is liberal.

Sorry to disappoint you all.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire

Posted by: William Rivers Pitt | October 2, 2007 8:25 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Oh blow it out your ass, Howard"
Blazing Saddles


I listen to RL to learn what the rightwingnuts are hearing. These irrational rightists are leading the race to the bottom.


To kb

Right we're all in this together. Your first line says, "Rush is a phony human being." What exactly do you mean by that and what are your motives for saying that except for deviciveness. Admit it, you're clicking your little elf shoes together because you think you've hit on a way to destroy this man's carreer. You care as much about us being together as you do about our soldiers. Sure this guy who got fragged was a hero. But how many other heros are out there who were hurt even worse than he was and are not allowing themselves to be used in this way. This is another Cindy Sheehan who the Demorats loved until the snake turned and bit its handler's hand.


Faking transcripts is an old story for Limabaugh. Here's just one example -

What Limbaugh said on Monday, July 16, 2007:
"I don't know much about history"

What appeared in his transcript on Tuesday, July 17, 2007:

" It is to people with an open mind and who actually don't know much about history."


The fact that some people here are pretending that the left using puppets pretending to be soldiers clearly haven't been paying much attention for the past few years.

Not only did ABC News run a huge expose on the phenomenon but we had a blogger named "dale peters" on this very blog who was outed as a phony by that right wing mouthpiece, DailyKos.com. What little memory all of you have!

p.s. Jimbo, the truth is neither liberal or conservative, it's just the truth and it's the first casualty when the two political powers start fighting.


Good thing he didn't call them nappy phony soldiers.


This soldier isn't phony; he's like every other democrat soldier - a dummy who can't think for himself. He has to be told by the drive-by media what he thinks. The left sure knows they have a good thing going and I applaud Rush for letting the world see this wheelchair bound DUMMY for what he is. A dummy and a liberal! and a phony soldier. Yep, I said it. SUPPORT RUSH!


Jessie McBeth is the Phony Soldier, so is Murtha

Posted by: Harvey | October 2, 2007 9:31 PM

Way to rage oh great American. Is there anyone else you would care to pass judgement on McCarthy?


I find it very interesting that the Looney Left is now coming to the defense of our fine U.S. military after heaping years of disdain and hatred towards our troops in Iraq. It's so typical of the duplicitous left. Where were they when Mr. Kerry said" they're breaking into their homes in the dead of night and raping and terrorizing Iraqis'", and Jack Murtha said Marines went on "murdering rampages" ? Let us not forget Harry Reids declaration "this war is lost ". The problem with the Looney Left is they think the rest of the folks are as stupid as they are.


"p.s. . Isn't it great when no one edits the posts? Or bothers to do any factchecking before taking their marching orders from leftist groups like votevets and DailyKos?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2007 6:24 PM"

... And that's worse than no factchecking before taking orders from the RNC because .....?????


Says James H.: "Please, now all of a sudden the Demorats care about our soldiers? Why then did they totally Senator Kerry, making him eat alone when he dropped in on them in Iraq?"

1) Please proofread your postings. What did "they totally Senator Kerry"?

2) Please check your facts. See the Snopes Urban Legends website for the truth about this photo (http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/iraqsnub.asp), and you will discover that Kerry wasn't alone (he's obviously talking to other people who've been cropped out of the picture), it wasn't an "eat with the troops" event, but a private meeting with some reporters, and they'd intentionally sought out an unoccupied table.

Sorry if the facts in this case (like the facts in the case of Rush's latest slander of the American soldier) don't quite support your beliefs, but sometimes life works that way.


Don B.....Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but you know what they say about opinions don't you? and yours needs to be wiped. I believe the "rest" of the folks don't agree with you 26%ers anyway.


I find it very interesting that the Looney Left is now coming to the defense of our fine U.S. military after heaping years of disdain and hatred towards our troops in Iraq.
Posted by: Don B | October 3, 2007 7:24 AM

Don, when did you stop beating your wife?


It's interesting to see the far right play out its agenda. It's obvious that Murtha is vulnerable so they attack his anti iraq stance by pointing out his ethical shortcomings undermining his credibility further by linking his ethical phoniness to that supposed phony iraqi vets phoniness. They change a dangerous target(retired marine colonel)into an easy one.
People seem to dislike Cindy Sheehan, that's also pretty obvious. So they tie her into this outspoken wounded vet with the whole "human shield" remark. Through the use of this euphemism they are able to attack the easy target (Cindy Sheehan)and the brave vet (dangerous target)by implication, at the same time. It's really not all that clever, but evidently neither are we .
I've noticed these things start to play out in the blogs first, then they go wide with rush and fox news.


Don B.....Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but you know what they say about opinions don't you? and yours needs to be wiped. I believe the "rest" of the folks don't agree with you 26%ers anyway.

Posted by: bill r. | October 3, 2007 9:16 AM

bill r. Instead of posting a fourth grade response, perhaps you can cite some opposing responses by your fine leaders from the left to those statements by those fine leaders..... can't find any huh bill r., ok you can now post your fourth grade response again.

p.s. It must really irk you fools on the left the surge is working huh bill r. From now on, good news from Iraq will be bad news for the defeatocrats .


"This is another Cindy Sheehan who the Demorats loved until..."

Posted by: James M | October 2, 2007 10:16 PM

When did the Democratic Party ever wrap there arms around Cindy Sheehan. When will you people stop lying?? Better question when will you address this post about Rush calling the victim of a suicide bomber a suicide bomber for speaking out against the war and Rush's comments?? When are you people going to show some traits of a human being?


Don, when did you stop beating your wife?

Posted by: chimpymcflightsuit'snavigator | October 3, 2007 9:34 AM

John E. Not that it's any of your business, I'm not married , not get get back to your post with " Dale" you phony soldier.


Mark, what is the point to posting this crap:

I find it very interesting that the Looney Left is now coming to the defense of our fine U.S. military after heaping years of disdain and hatred towards our troops in Iraq.
Posted by: Don B | October 3, 2007 7:24 AM

Don, when did you stop beating your wife?

Posted by: chimpymcflightsuit'snavigator | October 3, 2007 9:34 AM


Hey Smirky, er John E or dt or any one of the other morons who make up the Loony Left, drop dead. Mankind will be much better off.

So, Mark, you ask for better posts to raise the level of debate. Yet, post after post from your loony buddies on the Left have nothing to say but lies, distortions, name calling and now claims of wife beating??

What a farce.


Bill R, you know that snopes.com is a well known left wing liberal site - after all, they are the only sites that would debunk a well known right-wing fact.

If Rush was such a great man, why won't he invite Rep. Murtha on his show and call him a "phony soldier" to his face?? Or how about McGough? Tell him the one about being a suicide bomber, or a tool of the left wing.

No, Rush shoots off his mouth, then hides behind people like John D., Bruce, JD etc. to fight his battles for him. What a gutless bag of s***t!


JD and Anonymous whine almost as much as John "the Joseph Stalin of Streamwood" D. I'm curious if they all share the same padded cell or if they're alternate personalities for some right wingnut dingbat.


It shows how desperate the Democrats in congress are to please the loony left base when they slam Rush, a guy who is loved by most of the troops, and at the same time say nothing about guys like McBeth, who Rush was clearly talking about.

Way to go after that military vote in 08.


I'm not married.

Posted by: Don B | October 3, 2007 10:04 AM

What a surprise!
Okay, Don then when did you stop dating underage chicks?


Spouse:

Proof, please that Rush is loved by most of the troops. I would guess that most of the troops like Al Franken more, who has gone over to entertain the troops 3 times, and not just in the safe zones that most of the right wing blowhards get taken to, than Rush.


"I would guess that most of the troops like Al Franken more"

And you'd be a fool.

Al Franken is a spokesman for the loony left, the same people that have accused the US military of slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent non-combatant Iraqi men, women and children. He’s a spokesman for those that accuse our military men and women of torturing prisoners in Guantanamo. He speaks for those that called Gen Petraeus a traitor.

Ever listened to Rush and what he says about the military every day? Our troops have.


I would find the Democrats concerns over Rush's "phony soldier" comments more believable if their resolution in Congress attacked ANY talk show host that spoke negatively about our military. It seems if you are on the left and you speak out against the military, that's fine. But if Rush comments about phony soldiers, that's outrageous! It seems to me you either support the troups or you don't.


Mr. Silva,

Let me just say that I am tired of wacked out leftist loonie reporters.

I don't want you to think that I am speaking of ALL reporters that way. As Rush addressed AFTER his statement, I will address the "who" after mine...I am speaking specificly of loonie reporters like YOU!

See! You can address specifics after the fact!

Why did it take Rush a over a minute to mention Macbeth's name? Simple: when liberals are listening, you have to speak verrrry sloowwwly!



It's Limp-Baugh and he is
the biggest low-life out
there.
He run off to Canada for 7
years to get out of the draft for the Viet-Nam war,
now he thinks he can shoot
off his mouth about some one who has seen combat in
Iraq. But, Bush and Cheney did the same. They all three have yellow streaks up their back's.


I'm sorry, I missed what war Rush Limbaugh fought in. Well, I guess armchair drug addicts are 4F anyway.



Hey. You see very few Republicans in the service.
You see the Republicans don't
want their kids ahot at.
You see this war would last
about thirty seconds if the
President's and Cheney two
girls were running up and
down the road in a hunvee
in Iraq.



Hey. You see very few Republicans in the service.
You see the Republicans don't
want their kids ahot at.
You see this war would last
about thirty seconds if the
President's and Cheney two
girls were running up and
down the road in a hunvee
in Iraq.


Funny, Russ has never said a word about the seven years he spent in Canada during the Viet-Nmn war.
The draft board never did catch up with him.
Now, he think's he can talk
about Souldering, with that yellow streak up his back.


Ecclesiastes 10 (New International Version)
2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
but the heart of the fool to the left.


Yes, that is a phony soldier. Rush Limbaugh should donate some of his illegal Oxycontin drug stash to the phony soldier to help his head wound.


I have listened to Rush. I heard him refer to President Clinton's daughter as the "White House dog" 10 years ago. Rush is scum, always was and always will be. Anyone who believes his crap is an idiot.


Rusted Limpturd thinks today's troops are phony soldiers. WW2 veterans called Vietnam veterans phony soldiers. Actions speak louder than words. Disregard the hypocritical "support the troops" BS. See the poor treatment of casualties by the military and the VA. Know that it is NEVER going to improve. America 2007-08 agrees with Rusted Limpturd. We in TODAY'S MILITARY are ALL PHONY SOLDIERS.


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