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Clinton: Iowa, Mississippi have women problems

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Posted October 23, 2007 10:20 AM
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Sen. Hillary Clinton greets Kerry Bowen at the Polk County Fall Dinner, Friday, Oct. 19, 2007, in Des Moines, Iowa. (AP Photo/Steve Pope)

Glenn Thrush

In an odd, surprisingly candid and perilous interview with the Des Moines Register's David Yepsen Hillary Clinton implies that voters in Iowa and Mississippi are sexist because they haven't elected women as governors, reps or senators. Iowa "poses a special burden to me" she said.

Ouch.

We’re sure there are couple of people who’d like to relieve her of that burden.

"I was shocked when I learned Iowa and Mississippi have never elected a woman governor, senator or member of Congress. There has got to be something at work here," she told Yepsen, theorizing it may be the risk-averse nature of a state built around agriculture.

"I think not only do I have to bring people to me, I have to maybe reassure people here maybe more than I do in New Hampshire, which has had a woman governor."

Then she takes a gratuitous shot at Ole Miss, which will provide the GOPers in the South with bulletin board material and will cause her nothing but problems in her quest to win over the upper south.

"How can Iowa be ranked with Mississippi?" she asked, siding with the Hawkeye State. "That's not the quality. That's not the communitarianism, that's not the openness I see in Iowa."

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Clinton has to resort to acting the role of Women's Advocate because she's exhausted every other role she's been playing so adds one more lie to the pot in typical Clinton style. Makes no more sense than if Obama or Thompson were to start making a Big Thing out of how she is a threat to them because she's a woman - but darned if her poses aren't working, at least with people who don't look closely. Clinton is a Clinton advocate, nothing more, nothing less, totally bogus. I still haven't decided whom I'll vote for, but it won't be Clinton.


Is Hillary/Bill playing the "woman card" in Iowa? I think so. She probably missed a few other states like S carolina and Arkansas. When actually did she become a "woman" advocate? What is her history of backing women candidates for political office before she became famous? Did she campaign for Ferraro or Shirley Chisolm in their efforts to become the first woman president? These questions should be answered. Hillary/Bill, "I'm your girl," Clinton needs to answer a lot of questions about her involvement with women's issues.


I guess it's ok to insult a state that she knows she's not going to win??? Is it an insult to women if a state has not elected a woman? Or is it by chance a situation where a woman hasn't run or hasn't been electable in a primary? Billary seems to just lob the isults out without giving a 2nd thought. MS has no women govnernors? No wonder it's so screwed up down there??? Does she want to be Pres. of only the pieces of the country that she likes?


Fascinating. If Rudy were to make similar comments, he would be vilified incessantly by the character assassins in the drive-by media.

The same media groups will ignore any insulting comments by Hillary. The double standard is revolting.

On a related topic, exactly how is Hillary qualified to become President of the United States?


  • Has she ever run a large corporation? No.

  • Has she ever run a mid-size company? No.

  • Has she ever run a local store? No.

  • Has she ever run a newsstand? No.

  • Has she ever run a state, city, or county? No.

  • Has she ever run a small village? No.
  • Has she commanded or supervised a military, police, or fire department unit of any size? No.

  • Has she ever made a payroll or created even a single job? No.

  • I once asked this question to a Hillary supporter. The answer is telling: “Hillary has years of experience. She was First Lady for 8 years and her family was in politics.”

    I am sure this qualifies her husband Bill to become President, and possibly some members of her family. Once again I ask, exactly how is Hillary qualified to President of the United States, the most difficult management job for the largest organization in this country, and possibly the world.

    One thing I have learned in my life. If you do not ask the appropriate questions, you may not be happy with the outcome.


    Maybe the White House can answer your questions.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/firstladies/hc42.html

    Hey healthcare plans can go south, and you can hate her ideas. But, her interest in children and women seems to be a long standing one.


    When you think you are above the people you are asking for the votes of it can't stay a secret forever. She'll make more of these 'slips' and her distain for the average voter will become more and more apparent as the campaign wears on.


    With regard to Mississippi, I'd be inclined to agree with her. However, in the case of Iowa, I think the dearth of women in higher office is just an accident. With a longstanding tradition of agrarian populism dating back to the late 19th Century, Iowa, along with neighboring states Minnesota and Wisconsin, has long been a haven of progressive politics.


    "I still haven't decided whom I'll vote for, but it won't be Clinton."


    above per elizabeth


    my response - well put

    also per elizabeth,

    "Clinton is a Clinton advocate, nothing more, nothing less"

    even better put


    little t - tom the independent MD


    all of those left remaining against hillarinevitability rise up NOW

    after she gets the nomination, she is going to more than double the spending of the existing record for most ever spent and she is going to unleash the hounds on the negative campaigning by third parties with even more money ("swift-boating" as some of you refer to - and then some) - so as the saying goes "speak now or .........welcome the NEW bush/hitler/antichrist*"


    * all three fit depending on your definitions BUT even if you deny the appropriateness of any of THOSE three metaphors,you cannot deny this fact - IF YOU DO NOT OPPOSE HILLARY AND HILLARY WINS, THEN YOU WILL FOREVER WILL BE A PART OF THE HISTORICAL SUCCESSION OF; BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH/CLINTON ........................................ IS THAT REALLY WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


    "I still haven't decided whom I'll vote for, but it won't be Clinton."


    above per elizabeth


    my response - well put

    also per elizabeth,

    "Clinton is a Clinton advocate, nothing more, nothing less"

    even better put


    little t - tom the independent MD


    all of those left remaining against hillarinevitability rise up NOW

    after she gets the nomination, she is going to more than double the spending of the existing record for most ever spent and she is going to unleash the hounds on the negative campaigning by third parties with even more money ("swift-boating" as some of you refer to - and then some) - so as the saying goes "speak now or .........welcome the NEW bush/hitler/antichrist*"


    * all three fit depending on your definitions BUT even if you deny the appropriateness of any of THOSE three metaphors,you cannot deny this fact - IF YOU DO NOT OPPOSE HILLARY AND HILLARY WINS, THEN YOU WILL FOREVER WILL BE A PART OF THE HISTORICAL SUCCESSION OF; BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH/CLINTON ........................................ IS THAT REALLY WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


    Response to “Not plugging Hillary, but come on”: Thank you for proving my point! I urge everyone to read Hillary’s bio and make their own decision as to her qualifications.

    Here is a list of her career as taken from the White House Bio:

  • As an undergraduate, Hillary mixed academic excellence with school government

  • Served on the Board of Editors of Yale Law Review and Social Action

  • Interned with children's advocate Marian Wright Edelman

  • Advised the Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge

  • Member of the impeachment inquiry staff advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives

  • Member of the faculty of the University of Arkansas Law School in 1975

  • Joined the Rose Law firm in 1976

  • Member of the board of the Legal Services Corporation

  • Served as Arkansas's First Lady for 12 years

  • Co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families

  • Served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services, and the Children's Defense Fund.

  • Serviced as US First Lady for 8 years

  • Chaired the Task Force on National Health Care Reform.

  • Advocate for expanding health insurance coverage, ensuring children are properly immunized, and raising public awareness of health issues

  • Wrote a weekly newspaper column entitled "Talking It Over"

  • Wrote best selling 1996 book It Takes a Village and Other Lessons Children Teach Us

  • United States Senator for 7 years.
  • These are certainly admirable credentials and accomplishments, and she appears to be qualified to serve in a variety of roles, such as the head of a non-profit organization, the board of a museum, book editor, or perhaps even as the Dean of a University.

    But I will ask this question once again. Exactly how is Hillary qualified to become President of the United States, the leader of the free world, and Commander in Chief of our armed forces?

    I challenge anyone to provide a detailed, specific answer to this question.


    Can't comment on Iowa but Mississippi is ABSOLUTELY anachronistic and sexist. As an Investor, I'm often in Northeast Mississippi and all the active women on local councils and boards are rarely more than glorified clerks; The women don't seem to lack ability just opportunity. I'm male but I'm still a little 'surprised'to see THAT in 2007


    Posted by: Jack | October 23, 2007 2:57 PM

    Sounds to me like she's a lot more experienced than Fred Thompson. The anwsers if you asked all of your original questions about him would be "No" as well. Why doesn't anyone question his experience level like they do Hillary's?


    Rowan James: Perhaps you should brush up on your MS history. The outgoing Lt. Gov. is a female, and the second woman to hold such a position. She would have easily secured another bid as Lt. Gov., but decided not to run again. I wouldn't form an opinion, nor listen to one, that is based on your experience at board meetings in NE Mississippi. Do your homework.
    JR, PhD


    Bonnie Campbell was elected Attorney General in Iowa and ran for governor in 1994. She won the Democratic nomination and made a respectable showing in the general election. However, she faced a popular 3 term Republican incumbant.


    Does Billary also not realize that neither Arkansas (her former state) nor NY (her current state) have had or currently have women governors? Say what you want about her philosophy, agenda, etc. I want an educated President who will check his/her facts and not speak until their thoughts actually flow through their brain and materialize into something worthy of listening to.


    Response: AJF, October 23, 2007 4:27 PM.

    Thank you also for proving my point!

    I agree with you about Fred Thompson, however, that was not the question. I did not ask what was another specific candidate's experience relative to Hillary.

    I asked "Exactly how is Hillary qualified to become President of the United States, the leader of the free world, and Commander in Chief of our armed forces?"

    So to AJF, and to anyone that wants to make another attempt:
    I challenge anyone to provide a detailed, specific answer to this and only to this question.

    THOMPSON COMMANDED AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER - OH WAIT, THAT WAS "THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER" - WELL, HE AT LEAST PRETENDED TO COMMAND AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER - SORT OF LIKE.......... HILLARY PRETENDING TO BE A YANKEES FAN - IT WORKED FOR HER IN NY - MAYBE IT WILL WORK FOR FRED


    Jack,

    There are no qualifications, other than getting elected.


    well - you have to be the right age and born in US


    I'm a Mississippian,and I'm grieved by such blatant disregard for my home state's feelings. She may have no chance of ever winning our vote, but what kind of President do we want running our country?
    I'm open minded, so I'll still look at her as a potential candidate. I just fear the day when open distain is accepted from our leaders. All I'm asking for is a little caution when choosing who you support, because people are the power not the leaders.


    As a middle aged lifelong Iowan, card carrying member of NOW, and socially active woman....BAH! I used to be so excited about Hillary's campaign. Not only a viable woman candidate, but she holds so many of the same opinions I do. I have a first edition of her books. This is another example of why I have now turned completely OFF her. Integrity and ethics have no place in her world. She knows Iowa is slipping away, and she's getting desperate. I SWEAR if her automated voice calls me one more time I'm going to press 2 for them to call me back and let them have an ear full!!! Of course, they are probably just paid staffers. the Real News has some questions for her about Iraq. I want to hear THOSE answers; not more double talk. Not more avoiding questions, just answer the question.


    She's got to be kidding. Agriculture-based states having voters who are risk adverse? Farmers embrace risk. They have to in order to keep farming.

    Pretty snarky all around.


    Open mouth. Insert foot.

    Ouch!


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