Clinton: A week of courting yet more women: The Swamp
 
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Posted October 16, 2007 7:20 AM
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Sen. Hillary Clinton at the Eleanor Roosevelt Legacy Committee luncheon at the Grand Hyatt Hotel in New York this week. Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images


by Andrew Malcolm

Presidential campaigns love themes. It helps package their messages. This week's theme for front-runner Hillary Clinton is, "Women changing America." It's probably purely a coincidence that Clinton is a woman who's trying to change America by becoming its first woman president and doing so well among women in the polls and talking about women at every campaign stop (you know, the unnamed 90-year-old woman who says she was born when women couldn't vote and she just wants to shake the hand of the first woman president).

So you won't have a hard time guessing where Clinton showed up first thing Monday morning -- on ABC's "The View," which does so poorly in the ratings among males 18-45. Judging by the laughs and applause, Clinton was surely among friends.

"I still think, you know, there's probably a tougher standard for women, especially running for president. We've all been through it in one way or another where you go, you try to break a barrier, do the best you can and people are saying, 'Well, I don't like her clothes or I don't like her hair or whatever.' But I think we're getting beyond that."

How's that for an empathy pitch?

She told the 90-year-old woman story again and another one about parents who bring their daughters to her campaign appearances so they can see that they can be anything they want to be.

She dismissed a question about her polarizing effect, saying she just tries to make her points and let the people see who she is and make their own judgment. "I really think Americans want to know what your positive agenda is." She said she was excited for Al Gore getting the Nobel Prize and "when I'm president maybe we can get something done on global warming." She also came out against torture.

Later in the day at a New York luncheon Clinton said some people had asked in 2000 whether New York was ready to elect a woman senator. “I propose we give them the same answer we did in New York, and that this time next year we prove that America is indeed ready for a woman president.”

In fact, according to a Boston Globe story, Clinton's staff is counting on women to push her over the top both in the primary elections and in the general election.

Not wanting to step on her women's message of progress with a contradictory message reminiscent of past fundraising scandals, the Clinton campaign waited as late as possible today to release her finance report detailing the donors and amounts rounded up by accused swindler Norman Hsu.

Andrew Malcolm writes for Top of the Ticket, the L.A. Times' political blog.

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Comments

Reporting of the obvious?


"Courting women voters" is not the most
accurate word. It's "pandering." Not much different than the street beggar asking for coins. In this case, it's Hillary pandering for votes. For someone who
couldn't even manage her own husband,
Hillary hardly can qualify as a role model
for strong women.


Hillary/Bill going after the woman vote. Now why is that simply so not a surprise? Does gender matter? It isn't that women can run this country as well as any man, it's a matter of this particular woman running the country. Of course if you believe the axiom that behind every great woman there was a great man then she will be setting a precedent. It's strange that supposedly a lot of women support her despite Bill Clinton, a lot of Blacks support her because of Bill Clinton. We will see how that all plays out especially since the majority of Democrats support someone else.



I think it's safe to assume the woman she illegally wiretapped in 1992 won't be one of the women that will be voting for her. She votes against the govt.'. ability to wire tap suspected terrorists who plot and plan to attack and kill us , but she sees' fit to listen in on political rivals. Go figure !


Hillary is an empty pants-suit


Posted by: Latricia | October 16, 2007 8:56 AM

Way to pick up on that Latricia. Pandering...of course that would be from the candidates you dislike. Rudy wouldn't ever "pander" to the "lets run the country into the ground chasing terrorist" crowd...would he. Or McCain pandering to the "lets chase terrorists and give illegals amnesty" crowd...or Tancredo pandering to the "illegals are the cause of all our problems" crowd...or Thompson pandering to the "I'm most like Reagan cause I'm a B actor" crowd.
Thank God you have truely found that one exception.


Hillary would sell her mother-or yours-for a vote.


Courting yet more women?

Seems Hillary has not deployed her greatest weapon here.

Who is better at courting women than Bill?


What a riot the Swamp censors are. I've seen posts claiming Rush Limbaugh is gay and went to the Dominican Republic to have sex with little boys and girls. I've seen posts claiming George Bush and Karl Rove have secret trysts with male prostitutes in the White House.
Yet, I "joke" and to test the Swamp censors, that Hillary may be "courting" women voters for something other than their vote, and the Pick-and-Choose Swamp censors veto that.
Thanks for proving my point again, guys!!


The first female or minority president will most likely be a conservative (think Thatcher and Merkel). Such a candidate could split liberal voters, many of whom put identity politics ahead of substantive issues.

A liberal female or minority candidate, particularly one as polarizing as Ms. Rodham Clinton, simply will not split conservative voters.

In fact, the opposite is true. Ms. Rodham Clinton's candidacy will turn out conservatives to vote against her. She is the GOP's only hope in 2008. God bless the Dems for having enough hubris to nominate her.


"Courting women voters" is not the most
accurate word. It's "pandering." Not much different than the street beggar asking for coins. In this case, it's Hillary pandering for votes. For someone who
couldn't even manage her own husband,
Hillary hardly can qualify as a role model
for strong women.

Posted by: Latricia | October 16, 2007 8:56 AM

Amen, but I must also agree with bill r. ALL poloticians pander. You could substitue beg, extort, steal et.al. to the descriptos. I have not seen one politician do what they claim they will when they prostitute for cash. They sing, say what you want to hear to fill the coffers. If and when the yare elected, their focus turns entirely to their own agenda's. They need the money to runs and maintain the lavish life style they lead at our expense. So, if you put her in a short skirt, hideous makeup and had hillary stand out on 87th & Stoney, she would be doing the same thing she is now, only with a slightly different presentation.


According to an attendee of the luncheon, Hillary said she would end the Iraq war immediately after taking office, and end subsidies to Oil companies [firedoglake]: http://tinyurl.com/yotlhl Guess she was just "pandering"?


I think it's kind of interesting that Hilary is claiming to be for women changing america, when much of her political agenda endagers women...such as her views on embryonic stem cell research. wich has the potential to be very damaging to women. Lets just say that american voters should be looking past the hype of the first women president to wether or not her agenda cares about women.
This is one women who wont vote clinton in 08!!


[quote]
I've seen posts claiming Rush Limbaugh is gay and went to the Dominican Republic to have sex with little boys and girls.

Posted by: John D | October 16, 2007 10:42 AM
[/quote]

Well, John "the Joseph Stalin of Streamwood" D, what other reason can there be for a guy to leave his 3rd (or 4th, I can never keep them straight) wife at home while he vacations in a Central American country - and he made sure to bring his Viagra with him. If he is a good Christian Republic Party man, he wouldn't need Viagra when he's away from his wife, right?


So what if she is attracting voters that, in the past, have been an after thought to presidential campaigns?

She can't really run as anything other than a woman. She will be a great president, and there isn't a single republican contender who will be able to win in a general election- even if they were running against a turtle. Bush may turn out to be a good thing after its all over with.


This piece epitomizes burying the lede.

"Not wanting to step on her women's message of progress with a contradictory message reminiscent of past fundraising scandals, the Clinton campaign waited as late as possible today to release her finance report detailing the donors and amounts rounded up by accused swindler Norman Hsu."


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