Bush's approval at new low in Reuters: 24 percent: The Swamp
 
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Posted October 17, 2007 10:22 AM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

President Bush's approval rating has reached a new low in the newest Reuters/Zogby Poll -- with just 24 percent of those surveyed approving of Bush's job performance. That is down from 29 percent last month.

It is lower than the latest register of Bush's approval rating in the Gallup Poll -- 32 percent in Gallup's newest October survey.

The newest gauge arrives as President Bush prepares for a press conference in the West Wing this morning -- at 10:40 am EDT -- and as the president prepares to fend off an override of his veto of an expansion of children's health care on Capitol Hilll tomorrow.

Public approval for the job that Congress is performing -- 11 percent in the new survey -- matches the all-time low that Reuters found last month.

"Deepening unhappiness with President George W. Bush and the U.S. Congress soured the mood of Americans and sent Bush's approval rating to another record low this month,'' Reuters reports today.

"The Reuters/Zogby Index,'' which measures the mood of the country, also fell from 98.8 to 96 -- the second consecutive month in which it has dropped. The number of Americans who believe the country is on the wrong track jumped four points to 66 percent.

"There is a real question among Americans now about how relevant this government is to them," pollster John Zogby said. "They tell us they want action on health care, education, the war and immigration, but they don't believe they are going to get it."

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What Mark Silva and the liberal press fail to report is that among the 24% of people who support the president, his approval rating is 100%.


Can't wait for Jerry, John D., and Bruce to jump on and tell us how things are going terrific and pointing out how low the rating of Congress is.

All Americans want is a government that represents the majority view when it is right and other views when it is in the best interest of the country.

Could you imagine how long ago this President would have been out of office if the American public could have demanded a recall?


The real news is 24% of Americans are still this ignorant.


Certainly this Bush administration will be recorded by future historians as among the most misguided, self-dealing, and unpopular executive administrations in American history.

Doesn't this result really make you wonder just who represents that last remaining 24 percent support group?


First 29%, then 26%, then 24%. Amazing. Lower than Nixon. Looks like a good year next year for the Democrats.

And for all you right wingers out there, the 11% for Congress applies to both Democrats AND Republicans.


GK said:

What Mark Silva and the liberal press fail to report is that among the 24% of people who support the president, his approval rating is 100%.

That is funny! Bravo!


Doesn't matter.

Under Nancy and Harry, the Dems in Congress are going to do what ever he and Cheney want re the war in Iraq ($600 billion and countng) anyway.
Nancy and Harry are SO pathetic.

Also pathetic are Hillary, Obambi and even Edwards, none of whom is willing to
say they'll end the war in
Iraq except in the vaguest terms, along the line of "maybe someday."

Bush/Cheney must have a good laugh at the Dems every day. Bush is even said to be planning how
he'll turn the country over to Hill/Bill. And he's not worried about the survival of his pet projects like Iraq, surveillance of citizens, and so on.


That 11% approval rating applies to Congress as a whole, not people’s individual congressman or senator else most incumbents wouldn’t get reelected.


Ha ha. RomanB nailed it.


Don't be fooled: The 76% who disapprove will be branded as unpatriotic liberals by Bush boot lickers like Limbaugh, O'Reilly etc.


The 24% who still support Bush are located in the south, which is now being visited by the fourth plague–drought! (Drought follows blind, deaf and dumb.)


Bush will go down in history as the world's dumbest president. I think that when our founding fathers were debating having a republic vs a direct democracy, if they had seen how horrible Bush would be..... I'd be voting right now.


I listened to Bush's press conference this morning and am evermore amazed that the American people could have elected such as bumbling, incompetent ignoramous. He's a walking breathing nightmare.


What do you expect from the idiot son of a mediocrity?


John Zogby's brother headed Arab Americans for Al Gore and since then, I do not believe in the objectivity of John Zogby or his poll. But, if Dems believe it only 11 percent approve of Congress so that says a lot about Harry Reid, Dickie Durbin, Chuckie Schemer, Rahm Emmanuel, Henry Waxman, John Conyers and others. The American people are tired of the Dems in Congress they squandered their opportunity I welcome 08. Jerry White, Springfield, IL


"FRONTLINE (pbs) EXPOSE BUSH/CHENEY CRIMES AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION"

CHENEY'S LAW ON PBS SHOWS EXACTLY WHY HIS APPROVAL RATING is 24% It should be 76% of Americans want him out. 76% of Americans feel impeachment is the only hand of time left. 76% of the American People want Nancy Pelosi to bring Impeachment orders to the floor.

After last nights public disclosure of the purging of the prosecutors and the illegal surveillance program before going into Iraq was Constitutionally Illegal.

C- IS WHAT 54.1 REPUBLICANS VOTED FOR AND WE MIGHT HAVE 24% OF THE POPULATION SURVIVING AT THIS TIME. TAKE AWAY THE TOP 5% WELL THATS LEAVES YOU 19% APPROVAL RATING.

19% = F = LOSS OF SCHOLARSHIPS, KICKED OUT, EXPELLED, GIVEN THE PINK SLIP.

DAVID ADDINGTON HE'S OUR MAN, AKA DICK CHENEY'S NEW I COMMITTED TREASON SCOOTER LIBBY. SURVEILLANCE THAT!


GK is a typical LYING Repuke.

Chimpy's support is not 100%.

If you check the polls, a LOT of his support is lukewarm at best.

Whereas people who are against Chimpy really hate the bastard.

www.pollingreport.com


to Bob in ATL - nice spin attempt - but you are being intellectually dishonest in spinning this democratic congress's incredibly low numbers (1/2 of the embarassingly low presidential marks).................. A) as is well publicized the dems are the majority party and B) the numbers have dropped dramatically since the dems took over and then failed to live up to their campaign promises


the truth is the president deserves the low numbers and the dems deserve the lower numbers


little t - tom - the independent


and to Tom3 - you may be right but same holds true for the democrats only worse !


And how much is the fact that the reason the Democrats were elected - to get us out of Iraq - is held up by Republicans?

If I remember correctly, the approval rate for Congress under the GOP was about 19% or 20%. So it's not like they were doing such a great job either.


It amazes me that so few repubs are ignorant of how Congress works. The 11% approval rating of Congress is not reflective of Dems or their agenda. Dems have put forward many great proposals since taking over in 2006, but it takes two to tango. The Dems don't have a pure majority (at least not until 2008)and because of this they don't have the numbers to override Republican opposition. When Dems completely control Congress then Congress' approval rating will undoubtedly skyrocket. Until that time repubs will ensure it remains a "do-nothing" Congress.


Liberals are not the smartest on the planet. Did the Democrats tell you "only the rich got tax cuts!?" And you swallowed that load whole, didn't you! The entire federal income tax rate was REDUCED! If you draw a paycheck, you have much less taken out. I personally have $4k less taken from my salary and I am middle class. Go ahead and vote Democrat and see the federal tax rate increased and your paycheck reduced. I guess you feel the need to pay health insurance for the kids (SCHIP) of people making $83K per year. LOL!

Bush has low poll numbers because of the Conservatives wanting things that you Democrats are against. You should be happy his numbers are where they are. And as for the Democratic controlled Congress at 11%, well they stink! You know they stink and America knows they stink. If they want to end the war, they have 100% control to end it today by simply not funding the war. Your Democratic controlled Congress controls the purse! But they are too chicken to do what they told you they'd do. They lied to you.
.....

"CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.

The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people."

President Clinton
Oval Office Address to the American People
December 16, 1998
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html


"...Dems have put forward many great proposals since taking over in 2006, but it takes two to tango..."


Posted by: Gary G | October 17, 2007 3:09 PM

Sure they have-

Meaningless non binding resolutions..

Dangerous attempts to legislate timelines for the Iraq war..

Ethically challenged attempts to undermine the military ( Durbin's Gulags, Murtha's False murder accusations, Reids declaration of defeat when the surge was twenty minutes old etc...)..

And all the time saying they are against the war, while at the same time not having the political backbone to actually committ themselves to a vote to defund the war.. ( th only real option congress has)

They did successfully take a shot at the economy with a feel good minimum wage increase..


What exactly is your definition of great?


Bob in ATL - you forget (like almost all drooling democrat apologists) that I am an Independent - I never said the Republicans were doing a good job - I don't think they were - I said you were being intellectually dishonest by insinuating that the extremely poor (worse than Bush's) marks for the congress had nothing to do with the general dislike for the democrats currently in power - and I was right to say so - as you have now admitted to, the marks for congress have dropped after the dems were elected (thanks for having the courage to admit the truth unlike Gary G who either cannot admit it or doesn't know it in the first place - I do not know which is worse but both are bad)

gary g wrote; "It amazes me that so few repubs are ignorant of how Congress works."

dear gary g - I am not a Republican but in case you haven't notice - that statement is a very strong compliment of Republicans - probably just a typo on your part -- but if it was a typo and you were trying to insult Republicans, let me repeat for the record that I as a non-republican DO think the low marks for congress DOES accurately represent public contempt for the Democrats (worse than Bush ratings) and furthermore I repeat that the Republicans and Democrats both deserve their low ratings

gary g also wrote: "The Dems don't have a pure majority (at least not until 2008)and because of this they don't have the numbers to override Republican opposition. When Dems completely control Congress then Congress' approval rating will undoubtedly skyrocket"

dear gary g , do you mean the dems will then pull us completely out of Iraq ??? (as their own top presidential candidates have stated would NOT happen)

gary g also wrote; "Until that time repubs will ensure it remains a "do-nothing" Congress."


dear gary g,

do you mean the Republicans will do to the Dems exactly what the Dems did to GBW before 9-11 ???

neither party will be worth a crap until;
....A) they realize that they work for us ........B) we stop voting for who panders the most with promises that cannot and should not be kept and which wouldn't do any good if they were kept anyway ....................C) THEY start putting their country ahead of political affiliation ............ D) they start to remember that BOTH parties are the pot calling the kettle black ........................... E) THEY BOTH STOP PUTTING THE CHINESE CAMPAIGN DONOR INTERESTS AND OTHER RICH FOREIGN NATIONAL INTERESTS AHEAD OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY'S INTERESTS .....................F) THE LEADERS OF THESE PARTIES REMEMBER THAT PUBLIC SERVICE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEIR CELEBRITY STATUS .................. G) THE PARTIES STOP THEIR DOUBLE STANDARDS REGARDING ETHICS - BOTH PARTIES - NOT JUST THE PARTY TRYING TO GET BACK IN POWER .........................AND ....................H)MOST IMPORTANTLY, NEITHER PARTY WILL BE WORTH A CRAP AS LONG AS WE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH US VOTING FOR THE LESSER OF EVILS


little t - tom - the independent


“1 in 4 Americans suffer from Mental Illness”

“Bush approval rating 24%”

Coincidence??? I don’t think so…


"Could you imagine how long ago this President would have been out of office if the American public could have demanded a recall?

Posted by: dogjudge | October 17, 2007 10:49 AM"

Agree.
Too bad our republican form of democracy (republic) is so diluted and weak that it's almost impossible to rid ourselves of this cretin. If fact we won't. He will serve out his 8 long long years.

In a parliamentary form of democracy he and his ilk would be long gone.

PS.
GK was funnin' with us, I think.


Could you imagine how long ago this President would have been out of office if the American public could have demanded a recall?

Posted by: dogjudge | October 17, 2007 10:49 AM
.....

The American public did have a "recall" back in November of 2004. Bush whooped Kerry by almost 4 million votes. It wasn't even close.


For anyone who's a fan of history, Harry Truman's Presidency ended with an approval rating of 23%. Yet, nowadays many historians regard him as one of the greater Presidents.


Let us bow in awe of tom's 'independent' concern troll points.

If you truly think both parties are equally responsible, I have even less respect for you than Lil' Johnny or RNC Bruce. At least they are firmly on one side. Put a sock in it because we have a 2 party system, like it or not.


Ten things we have learned from the Republicans and the Bush administration

10. Republicans can be "queen" for a day, especially in Idaho

9. A scooter is not a type of two-wheeler, but a two-legged flunky for the VP.

8. Deny knowledge of torture while watching the
Abu Ghrab tapes to tittilate your senile mind in Rumsfeld's Dept. of Defense.

7. Pass billions of dollars of no bid contracts under the desk with the stipulation that you get a cut once you are out of office.

6. Better to purchase a "sweet" ride for Rove than armor plating for a soldier in Iraq.

5. Ignore true intelligence that could have avoided 9/11 and create your own false intelligence of WMD's in Iraq to create a business venture for your buddies.

4. Start another war against Iran claiming we are in danger since Americans were stupid the first time.

3. Use the Constitution only if you get caught being unlawful in your activities.

2. Ignore the Geneva Conventions because you come from the "superior" town of Crawford.

1. Listen to the VP or he'll take out his shotgun.


I'm moving to Europe next month -- permanently.

So, I don't care anymore.

Have fun with your corrupt politicians, paid for by the corporations. Have fun with your media who won't talk about real issues. Have fun with your corrupt president -- a man as evil in as any person in the history of the world -- in every substantive way -- flushing Americans' lives and money down the toilet in Iraq.

It's over America. There's nothing that can be done now. The Titanic has hit the iceberg, and it doesn't matter who the captain is now. Clinton? Obama? Romney? Rudy? It doesn't matter. The jobs are gone, the government will be bankrupt in 10 years (15 at most). No Social Security, no government services, no law, no government pensions -- the collapse of the U.S. will be an interesting to watch from France.

So, good luck.


The entire Bush administration has been so destructive of the American image it's a shame they can't be imprisoned fo such mismanagement. Michael Moore is sitting in his home eating cheeseburgers and thinking to himself, "I told you so!"

That 24% that still believe Bush is a great president is the part of the population that is missing most of their teeth and drink Wal-Mart Cola. You'd have to be illiterate, mildy retarted or both to approve of that clown.


Pres. Bush's (WWIII) press conference yesterday was the ramblings of a seriously disturbed mind. This ratchets up my fear factor which has not and never has been of terrorists.


by giving your unconditional support to any party, you weaken that party and make it less effective at helping our country - the lack of accountability of the party leaders from their overly loyal defenders is why both parties have leaders that care more about their richest contributors than they care about their country - the democrats are sellouts to foreign national economic interests and the republicans are sellouts to big business within our borders and to a lesser degree the opposite is also true - so defend your lying party leaders all you want - the fact that we have a two party system is all the more reason you should hold your party leaders accountable instead of being a mindless lapdog like weinerdog43


Look at this thread! Look at the fierce hatred of Bush, met with equally fierce faith in him (comparing him to Truman, no less).

Whether history judges Bush to be worse than Nixon (or Buchanan), or better than Truman, we live in TODAY. So should not Bush be judged a collosal failure, based solely on the division his leadership style has created?

This country is being split apart over this man; that alone makes him a deep failure as a leader. He leads only 24 percent of America. He leads without the support of his citizens, on a technicality.

I suspect we'll see this number drop even lower, into all-time record-setting lows, hopefully never to be revisited again.


What Mark Silva and the liberal press fail to report is that among the 24% of people who support the president, his approval rating is 100%.

Posted by: GK | October 17, 2007 10:34 AM

This guy represents the Bush zombier 24 percenter, delusional and as clueless as ever.


So, good luck.

Posted by: Jack Richards | October 17, 2007 8:50 PM

Thnaks for moving Jack- the unfortunate thing is that you'll probably be back.


24% of Americans would support a dead opossum as president, so long as it was a Republican.


The stupidity of some people in this thread helps explain why we're in such a mess. And I'm not just talking about the wing nuts. Obvious humor not being recognized as humor, failure to be aware that the Senate requires 60%, which the Dems don't have, to get anything passed because the Repubs are filibustering 3 times as many bills as has ever been done in history. Regardless of why people *think* that Congress has failed to do anything, the *fact* is that the Repubs are the reason.


The last Bush supporters like the tax cuts and the stock dividends of the energy and arms companies that are sending jobs overseas and selling China-made goods to the US workers who can no longer afford the good stuff-if there was any still being made in the US.
Yes, we're sending our kids to kill and be killed far away so we can stay fat and happy at home and only see carnage on TV--and if you watch FOX you can avoid that...
My country tis of thy people your dying...


the democrats in power are heavily disliked and for good reason - can you handle THAT truth - "truth" machine ??? I doubt it - keep blaming the republicans for your party's failings over and over like a mindless drone - I know you will not quit droning on and you will not quit being wrong either - PATHETIC - by the way the clintons are as much to blame as is bush for where we are now - they abused power and pushed divisiveness as much or maybe more than bush and ignored the real problems (like terrorism and immigration) while pandering endlessly on pet issues - this is the TRUTH - they are ALL to blame as are you for walking in lockstep so blindly


little t - the independent


ps - it never fails that when i attack republicans and democrats , the democrats always get so much more upset - i guess the truth hurts as it pops their silly baloons and rains on their silly parades and obliterates rich fantasy lives


wow...someone so full of himself he might just pop
Posted by: tom
"ps - it never fails that when i attack republicans and democrats , the democrats always get so much more upset - i guess the truth hurts as it pops their silly baloons and rains on their silly parades and obliterates rich fantasy lives"

well let me take a moment to dispel your egotistical rant and enlighten you with a more level perspective.
"the democrats in power are heavily disliked and for good reason - can you handle THAT truth - "truth" machine ??? "
let us take a look at this
http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/312.pdf

take special notice to page 6 "Democrats Open Wide Party
Identific ation Advantage"

next:
"keep blaming the republicans for your party's failings over and over like a mindless drone - I know you will not quit droning on and you will not quit being wrong either - PATHETIC"

ha ha ha... mindless drone indeed, I seriously doubt that it has occurred to you that an intellectual debate might just render you as inept as your assertions.
http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

I like this line the best
"Who would you say deserves most of the blame for that: President Bush and the Republicans in Congress or the Democrats in Congress?"

51% say President Bush and the Republicans in Congress

I could waste more of my time pointing out how ridiculous the rest of your comments are but what is the point. I am basing an argument on the assumption that you might have some insight on politics while your post screams intolerant ineptitude.


Low approval ratings for Congress are quite explicitly because Congress is *supporting Bush* too much. This is in the details of every poll which asked the right questions: a majoriy wants Congress to oppose Bush *much more* than it is currently doing. Democrats and independents expected Congress to oppose Bush tooth and nail; when it didn't, approval ratings dropped precipitously. Note that Congress's approval dropped after the FISA capitulation and also after the blank-check war funding bill.

Just FYI for those nattering on about Congressional approval.


i am trying to help my country get past it's gridlock - if that means helping my country by helping the democrats get a clue - so be it - but they do not want to help their country - they want power for the sake of power and they take money from the highest bidder to do it - your democrat leaders are sellouts - pure and simple - continue your hubris if you must - i expect no less ........................in the words of the great pete townshend ..."meet the new boss.... same as the old boss" ...... TGIF everyone


Kathe M seems like an intelligent and sincere person and it turns out that she helps me make my point ......"The last Bush supporters like the tax cuts and the stock dividends of the energy and arms companies that are sending jobs overseas and selling China-made goods to the US workers who can no longer afford the good stuff-if there was any still being made in the US.
Yes, we're sending our kids to kill and be killed far away so we can stay fat and happy at home and only see carnage on TV" .............................................so if you still do not think that "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" applies, then think about this .... who took the most millions in donations of the chinese (and did the most favors for them), voted for the iraq war, signed nafta, sits on the walmart/made in china board, let wall street run wild with enron and worldcom debacles...................sounds like something the bushes might do ............. but the correct answer is THE CLINTONS (and we all know that everyone in the nation loves Hillary -- so the polling has nothing to do with her)

have a great weekend


"What Mark Silva and the liberal press fail to report is that among the 24% of people who support the president, his approval rating is 100%."

Yes, correct. That is the very definition of fanatical lunatic fringe. And your point was?


TMC: typical horse manure, The federal budget and Bush's spending is completely out of control, it's common knowledge and you just can't hide the facts.

SCHIPS 83,000 number is a very rare occurance. The amount depended on the state, from 28,000 to 78,000 for A FAMILY OF 4!!! Do you know how much a family of 4 would have to pay for private insurance, around $2000 a month, 1/3 of the amount of income. The actual bill placed more restrictions on the current program. You are just regurgating the same stupid lies that are completely wrong.

Mentioning clinton is what I like to call "romper room mentality" give it a rest. Whatever clinton has done, bush is a complete disaster, end of arguement, mentioning former presidents does not wash.

4 million is not a landslide

At least now 76% of americans realize your opinion is worthless.


to licnyc

4 million is not a landslide - correct

the republicans overspend - correct

76% of US has no faith in repubs - correct

now add more truth - about the same % has no faith in dems - also correct

and one major correction

clinton issue irrelevant ??? NOT - that married couple that took all the chinese donations in exchange for sending US jobs overseas (like bush as well) still has one who is running for president after bush - so it is FAR from irrelevant


bashing the clintons is not only easy to do with complete accuracy (and necessary if one wants a better country one day) - it is actually MORE relevant than bashing bush who will not be running in 08


Tom; TMC was speaking specifically of Bill Clinton and it is "romper room mentality" - meaning childish and immature reasoning. If Clinton lied or was such a horrible president how in the world does that excuse how bad Bush is or Bush lying? Given the challenges he faced either by previous administration or in general he was proven to be utterly incompetent and one of the worst presidents in our history. It's a cute trick that Bush can no longer be defended and try to shift the argument but the reality is that people who defend Bush have been wrong the entire time and its time we stopped listening to those people. But if you really want a comparison, Clinton retained a 65% approval rating, the highest end-of-presidency rating of any President that came into office after World War II. Or how about we try comparing Bush to Lincoln, also a war time president?


@ waynabq, tom3

Are you really so clueless that you didn't get the joke GK was making? Or maybe I'm the clueless one and I'm mistaking your irony for genuine outrage.


licnyc - I totally agree - sorry I did not get the subtlety of your point the first time - I totally agree that TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT - AND I AM SICK OF THE BUSH SUPPORTERS WHO ATTACK CLINTON'S CHINA AND OTHER TRADE POLICIES BUT FAIL TO REALIZE BUSH IS EVERY BIT AS BAD AS CLINTON ON THOSE ISSUES - ELECT A DEMOCRAT IF YOU MUST BUT DO NOT KID YOURSELVES THAT HILLARY IS A STEP FORWARD - one day we will wake up and all of our manufacturing jobs will have been sent to china and our kids will be sick from lead toys IF we have a job to buy them toys -- when that day happens (and it has already started) , then the fingerprints on that atrocity will be of bush AND clinton


btw .... TO LICNYC - clinton's approval ratings were not quite as high as you quote licnyc, and they certainly dropped after his pardon list was revealed - talk about influence peddling - I think he also got a little bump before leaving office due to the fact that Gore won a popular majority but lost in the electoral college AND due to the misleading yet effective PR campaign that led some to believe Gore had also won florida (a case which the facts never supported - chads or no chads) - nevertheless FOR THE MOST PART the election is indeed a popularity contest AMONG REGISTERED VOTERS (WEIGHTED BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE SOMEWHAT) - OPINION POLLS MAY OR MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT BUT EITHER WAY THE NUMBERS ARE LOW NOW FOR BOTH PARTIES AND FOR GOOD REASON --- MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU IS .....IF CLINTON REALLY HAD A SOLID 65 % APPROVAL RATING OR EVEN 60% APPROVAL RATING IN NOVEMBER 2000 AMONG VOTERS, THEN WHY WAS THAT ELECTION EVEN CLOSE ? GORE RAN A GOOD CAMPAIGN - WHATEVER THE REASON, THE TRUTH IS CLINTON AND BUSH ARE BOTH SUBPAR IN RESULTS - CLINTON JUST HAS THE ROMANTIC PR ADVANTAGE THAT DOES NOT FULLY NOR ACCURATELY REFLECT ALL OF THE HARM HE DID


WE all know Bush is an idiot, but unfortunately this creature has inflicted untold destruction upon the world, not to mention increasing the national debt by $4.5 Trillion. G W Bush is a disgrace to the Office and will most certainly go down in history as the worst president ever. He has brought disgrace to America, which is now a pathetic laughing stock in the world, and worse, hated. When I travel abroad I make sure I always have my Canadian passport available.

BTW that 24 percent approval rating is with a marrgin of error of 3 points ...


24% VERY slow learners.


Thankfully I don't live in the U.S and Bush ain't my President (thank god), but I can't help but think that the U.S suffers from some kind of collective learning disorder. It is absolutely mind-boggling that 'George Dubya' 'stole' the election in 2000, then got returned to office in 2004?!? Can someone explain the lunacy of that to me? At least people started to see some sense in last year's mid-terms though! I would also add that no fair-minded person could possibly tell me that Al Gore would have done any worse than this guy?

As someone who is not a U.S Citizen, and who lives outside of the U.S, people do have to understand the damage this President has done to USA's reputation on the world stage. I really think that this point can't be understated.

It is becoming an interesting trend that democratic elections around the world are no longer being decided based on which side of the political spectrum you sit, but rather, whether candidates support the 'Coalition of the Willing' or not. In Australia, opposition leader Kevin Rudd is ahead in the polls and is likely to win the November 24 Australian election over incumbent Prime Minister John Howard, in part because he has vowed to remove Australian combat troops in mid-2008. He has gone on record as saying that Australia's involvement in Iraq has become the 'single greatest security disaster that Australia has seen since Vietnam.' You would have to say the same for the U.S mission as well.

In the U.S, as it looks presently, it could be a Giuliani v Clinton showdown. If it was up to me, I would have to go with Clinton. At least relations between the U.S and its allies was a lot more amicable during the previous (Bill) Clinton era than what can be said for two terms under Bush. Hopefully Hilary has the ability to recapture that mood! For me, January 20, 2009 can't come soon enough.


24%....... 24%? thats like having 8 people who hate you... but hey you still got those other 2 who don't! I wonder what the overall world approval rating for this man will be?


please mr davies enlighten us as to the name of your country so that we may make suggestions as to how you should vote so as to best help OUR country (assuming you live in a democracy where you are allowed to vote) - at any rate, that seems to be the logic behind your advice - vote for who will do the most for the interests of other countries - other than your own - I am no fan of bush - however, the american democrats are a party of egotistical elitist who capture the favor of media by pandering to pet issues - some of the old school democrats would be appalled at the policies and tactics of the famous clinton couple who have taken pandering to "where no man (or woman) has gone before" - nevertheless, they allow (and even cheer) such tactics solely because the clintons are successful - bill c. did have a communication style that put him in favor with other world leaders and their foreign press corps and he was very good at pandering to the perceived desires of foreign countries as well - though hillary is every bit the phony that bill is and was , she lacks his communication skills - therefore she is the all of the bad that bill was, with none of the good ...... I would say, "let her win" and then let us all see the low places her policies would take us BUT she (they) are so good at covering their mistakes (unlike bush) ---- nevertheless I would prefer OBAMA over HILLARY and 3-4 of the current republicans over Hillary - because as you point out - character does matter - apparently from your vantage point you are unaware of the lack of character of the clintons - never has the phrase "power for the sake of power" been more fitting - small wonder (your lack of awareness), however, since there are so many intelligent "liberals" / "left-wingers" (whatever you would label them) here in US who are completely willing to overlook the lack of character of the clintons and bury the bodies for them as they perceive the "ends justifies the means" and, of course, the clintons are really the only "winners" for the democrats in US in 30 years (on a national level) , so their sins are not only exonerated, they are celebrated - the fact is economically, bill c. set up the US for catastrophe at home by sending so many of our jobs overseas (in exchange for political favors) and bush has continued the trend (also for political favors) - this is much to the chagrin of many conservatives and liberals yet it is a key issue overlooked as the rich got richer under both presidencies - so if you hate bush so much but happen to love america, you'll want us to elect practically "ANYONE but HILLARY"


LITTLE t - tom the independent


John Dean's book conservative without a conscience tells the story of how about 24-27% of americans would follow a person like Hitler. And what is Bush's approval rating/


typical liberalesque demagoguery - you can't win an argument on merits - therefore revert to name-calling - if you are anything other than a liberal , your a nazi - right arnold ????? here is some fact for ya - the movements towards socialism and fascism in europe were considered progressive by american liberals in the 1930's - the anti-hitler movement in america prior to 1941 was bipartisan to be SURE, but involved a great many US conservatives - try fact over wishful thinking next time or you will be part of the set up for the next hitler instead of being part of the antidote


What nobody is mentioning is that the US dollar has fallen to a 35 year low against every other major currency. This is a direct result of the Bush administrations tremendous fiscal irresponsibility, most especially including the trillion dollars squandered on Iraq. This devaluation is equivalent to a 33% across-the-board tax hike - without bringing any of the benefits that tax spending could bring. GWB has essentially handed global economic leadership to China on a silver platter, and the US is not going to get that position back for decades - if ever.

24% of Americans think this is a good thing.


you are correct paul - clinton/bush handed our economy over to China - we cannot affort to go bush/clinton/bush/clinton - if we do, we will forever give away what is left of our sovereignty


The remarkable thing to me here is how divisive the comments are in these posts. Few indicate a willingness to find answers together, or a sense of shared community. Do we reflect the divisive rhetoric of our leaders? Of the polarized media? Or do they reflect the divisive opinions present in the polity as a whole? Is the polity as a whole as polarized as the vitriolic minority whose posts we read and whose voices we hear on talk radio call-ins? Is there a middle anymore? If there is no middle, I fear for an America that lacks a core of sensibility for community. If we care more for positions that weaken political opponents than for positions that strengthen America, we weaken ourselves with every exchange. Most of what I see on both sides is cynically political, ideological, dogmatic and unproductive.


where did this 24% come from? oh zogby. well, the way to judge a president , or anyone else is not by the people who approve, but by you people who disapprove. around 60% huh? you people are very weak in your arguments.where will we all be judged? dare i ask who received the most death threats, as president?? oh, you say lincoln. great man.


Ben, for crying out loud... open wikipedia and read about Truman's record and what he accomplished. And try... just try... to find a single gem in Bush's legacy of shame that comes close to matching.

Okay, fine, the approval ratings are a poor indicator. But do your instincts REALLY tell you that Bush is even close to a fraction of the man Truman -- or any of our other presidents -- were?

Even the infamous blowhard, do-nothing Warren Harding seems like a statesman by comparison.

The trouble with those 24%... and some of these posters here... is that they have no true sense of history. And no anticipation for how long we'll have to pay for these mistakes Bush is making, on our behalf, right now.


Can anyone guesstimate how much more tax every taxpayer will have to pay just to cover the interest on the loans that were already taken out to cover the "war" in Iraq?

If we looked at the total spent on the "war" in Iraq, not including all the incidentals that go with it, there could be an argument made that it would have been cheaper to bribe all the Iraqis.

If they were all driving around in Ford quad cab duallys, with cummins diesel engines, they would
surely try to help keep oil prices low.

Think of how many jobs that would have created for US workers.

Ok, back to more insanity.


im movin to england


In other words, there are 230 million domestic terrorists in the United States.


well things may go change.president blind support may seems awkward at moment but keeping patting on their shoulder may seems helping some times.


George Bush and his die-hard supporters have got to be the dumbest most delusional group of idiots ever to inhabit the face of this planet.

All the Chimp has to do is do a little fear-mongering, wave the flag and the bible and Chimp, the retarded sheperd can herd his flock of any cliff of his choosing.


George Bush and his die-hard supporters have got to be the dumbest most delusional group of idiots ever to inhabit the face of this planet.

All the Chimp has to do is do a little fear-mongering, wave the flag and the bible and Chimp, the retarded sheperd can herd his flock of any cliff of his choosing.


I don't understand all this hate...many of you are sounding like Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, claiming you can smell sulfur wherever Bush, or better known as Satan, goes. I admit, am afraid of the wiretapping scandal, and our burgeoning debts, especially to China. I don't want to be drafted into the war, either. But things are looking up in Iraq- according to the AP, violence is at its lowest rate since 2003. Back in '03, many of us were agreeing with Bush, but now because the war's gone badly in the past few years we've all abandoned him, and more importantly, the war. I don't know if it was right to invade Iraq, and I don't think it's right to blindly believe in every single one of our president's policies. But we're in this war whether we like it or not, and hate-mongering like this, in preference of candidates who have publicly admitted that they would continue the war in Iraq, is playing into Osama's hands beautifully. Can't we try to at least finish the job in Iraq, for the Iraqis' sake rather than tuck tail and run once we hit 4,000 casualties? Our forefathers suffered nearly 25,000 in one battle at Antietam. Americans shouldn't be wavering this easily.


"The remarkable thing to me here is how divisive the comments are in these posts. Few indicate a willingness to find answers together, or a sense of shared community. Do we reflect the divisive rhetoric of our leaders? Of the polarized media? Or do they reflect the divisive opinions present in the polity as a whole? Is the polity as a whole as polarized as the vitriolic minority whose posts we read and whose voices we hear on talk radio call-ins? Is there a middle anymore? If there is no middle, I fear for an America that lacks a core of sensibility for community. If we care more for positions that weaken political opponents than for positions that strengthen America, we weaken ourselves with every exchange. Most of what I see on both sides is cynically political, ideological, dogmatic and unproductive."


BRAVO


hummm 24%. lower than nixon. but atleast he resigned.


How low does the approval rating have to get before he is not making decisions? This is absolutely crazy. He should have been literally thrown out of the White House. Ugh


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