by John McCormick
As presidential candidate Barack Obama campaigns across southwest Iowa today, his campaign manager is distributing a new memo that seeks to dispel any notions that the Illinois Democrat's effort is failing to keep pace with front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York.
"When we got into this race as a largely unknown candidate new to the national political stage, we never expected that nine months later at this stage of the race, we would be in tight three way race [in] Iowa; leading in the money race; have the largest grassroots organization in modern political history; and have an organizational advantage in the early states and February 5 over a quasi-incumbent from the most powerful political machine in modern political history," campaign manager David Plouffe writes in what might fairly be described as a run-on sentence.
Plouffe continues that the media wrongly "remains focused on the simplistic and erroneous view of national polls as predictors" before launching into what he views as "several structural advantages."
In the memo, Plouffe argues the campaign has the best message, biography and is "most in [sync] with the electorate." He also claims it has the "largest organizations with the most experienced staff and enthusiastic volunteers in the four early states."
With the third-quarter fundraising deadline fast approaching, Plouffe fairly points out that Obama has "the most donors by far in the race, who as the election draws nearer will get even more active on our behalf, giving us financial sustainability."
The memo comes as Obama continues to struggle to win over so-called "beer track" voters, as reported in the weekend editions of the Tribune.
For the curious, the full text of the Plouffe memo, complete with a few campaign typos, is below the jump.
(Obama, photo from the University of Chicago Comer Children's Hospital)
To: Interested Parties
From: David Plouffe, Campaign Manager
RE: Enthusiasm and Organization: A Path to the Nomination
Date: September 22, 2007
It has been about a month since our last memo updating you on the progress of the campaign. In that time, the campaign has entered the critical post-Labor Day phase where the pace will pick up and the public will become more engaged in the campaign.
Framing the Race
Barack kicked off this new phase of the campaign with an important speech at a Labor Day rally where he framed the critical choice that voters face in this election. This speech had two key elements: First, he took the issue of experience head on, making the point that he “may not have the experience that Washington likes, but he has the experience that America needs” to bring change. Second, Barack talked about how it is not going to be enough to change parties; we have to change our politics. Our problems and our failures on big issues like health care, energy, and education pre-date the Bush Administration and real change requires a President is capable of truly transforming our politics.
As someone who has spent 20 years in public service, standing up to the special interests and bringing people together to enact change, Barack is the only candidate with the right kind of right experience in this race. Barack and the campaign will take this case to voters in the four early states and the February 5th states in the coming weeks and months.
Earlier this week, the campaign launched two new powerful ads in Iowa that further this case. You can see the ads by clicking here: “Believe” and “Mother”.
A Clear Path to the Nomination
It is important to take a moment every once in a while to reflect on all the progress we have made together in this campaign.
When we got into this race as a largely unknown candidate new to the national political stage, we never expected that nine months later at this stage of the race, we would be in tight three way race Iowa; leading in the money race; have the largest grassroots organization in modern political history; and have an organizational advantage in the early states and February 5 over a quasi-incumbent from the most powerful political machine in modern political history.
While the press remains focused on the simplistic and erroneous view of national polls as predictors, the Obama campaign has several structural advantages:
* The candidate with the message and biography that is most in synch with the electorate – according to a Gallup poll in September Democratic voters prefer change to experience by a margin of 73 percent to 26 percent;
* The largest organizations with the most experienced staff and enthusiastic volunteers in the 4 early states;
* An unexpected financial advantage that allows the campaign to compete in multiple contests at the same time
* The most donors by far in the race, who as the election draws nearer will get even more active on our behalf, giving us financial sustainability
* A significant organizational advantage in February 5th states.
Well-Positioned in Iowa
Iowa is fundamentally a close three-way race with Obama, Clinton and Edwards all within the same range in most public polling. In the last month, public polls have shown each of the three candidates leading. But the truth is, caucuses are very difficult to poll, particularly in a year where turnout will likely explode with many new attendees. So instead of focusing on the polls, we are much more focused on the growth of our hard count (number of committed supporters) statewide and we remain ahead of schedule in that regard. And there are other positive trends have emerged that are worth noting.
Because we will likely enter the caucus with thousands of potential first-time caucus attendees committed to Obama, organization is paramount. Last weekend’s Harkin Steak Fry – Senator Tom Harkin’s annual event, six of the candidates attended – showcased the strength of the Obama Iowa operation in the first head-to-head battle of organization. It is estimated that 5-6,000 people attended who were committed to candidates. Of that number, approximately 3,000 Obama Iowa supporters attended. It was described by many press accounts as akin to an Obama rally. That shows not just our organizational strength, but a real commitment from our county and precinct leaders, as well as our committed supporters. Our dominating presence at the Steak Fry is an example of the enthusiasm gap that we enjoy over our fellow candidates. Our supporters will drive for hours and walk for miles to help elect Barack to the White House. “Organization plus Enthusiasm” is a time-tested formula for success in the caucuses and that is the path we are on.
Below is a picture of the Obama supporters entering the Steak Fry:
Obama’s Entrance to The Harkin Steak Fry
As Ben Smith of the Politico put it: Iowa field operatives make a big deal of "visibility' -- making sure their campaigns have high profiles at high-profile events. On that note, you could mistake Tom Harkin's steak fry for an Obama rally. It was in fact preceded by an Obama rally, and the train of Obama supporters behind a marching band stretched for at least a hundred yards. His campaign said he'd given out 2,000 T-shirts, a number that seemed plausible. LINK
On a related point, polls consistently under-represent in Iowa, and elsewhere, the strength of Barack’s support among younger voters for at least three reasons. In more than one survey, Barack’s support among Iowa young voters exceeded the support of all the other candidates combined. First, young voters are dramatically less likely to have caucused or voted regularly in primaries in the past, so pollsters heavily under-represent them. Second, young voters are more mobile and are much less likely to be at home in the early evening and thus less likely to be interviewed in any survey. Third, young voters are much less likely to have a landline phone and much more likely to rely exclusively upon cell phones, which are automatically excluded from phone surveys. So all of these state and national surveys have and will continue to under-represent Barack’s core support – in effect, his hidden vote in each of these pivotal early states. Of course, there are organizational challenges associated with maximizing this support, but we are heavily focused on that task.
Prepared to Capture Momentum in New Hampshire
It is also clear that the importance of Iowa has only grown over the course of this year. The Democratic story coming out of Iowa is likely to be a much bigger story than the GOP contest, ensuring maximum velocity for a strong showing. Clinton will pay a severe price for not winning Iowa - national front runners always do. The average New Hampshire bounce on the Democratic side has historically been just under 20 points. Our internal data and most of the public polls show Obama with a solid foundation, despite having done no TV advertising or even direct mail. Those activities will begin in the near future. The demographics of the state would suggest that we will be able to build on our foundation as we begin to devote significant resources there, turning New Hampshire into a tight race over the coming months and almost ensuring a positive Iowa result will result in a New Hampshire primary win.
Organization and Enthusiasm in Nevada and South Carolina
Nevada is less formed than the other early states, but since it is a caucus, our focus has been on building precinct organizations. We already have 2,000 volunteers in the Nevada, which is far and away the deepest volunteer organization in the state.
There was one recent poll in South Carolina that showed Clinton with a sizable lead, but we believe that was an outlier. It had her with a healthy lead in the African-American vote, which is not what we believe to be the case. In fact, a public poll of just African-American voters was released last week that showed Obama with an eight point lead, which would result in a much closer contest in the entire primary electorate.
We believe South Carolina is now a very competitive two-way race, with Edwards, who won this contest in 2004, in a very distant third. Momentum will likely be king in South Carolina, but we are building an unprecedented grassroots organization to maximize our vote and to help provide the margin in a close contest.
We have begun to deploy staff and build organizations in some of the February 5th states. We currently have staff in California, Colorado, Missouri and Minnesota and will have staff in over a dozen other states by the end of October. While momentum will likely be the dominant factor in deciding votes on February 5th, we plan to marry that momentum with the strongest organization and most financial resources in these February 5th states to emerge from that day with the most delegates and states won.
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Comments
According to the article, "Plouffe continues that the media wrongly "remains focused on the simplistic and erroneous view of national polls as predictors" "
Plouffe can't be referring to the Swampune which, ever since Obama starting sliding in the national polls, has avoided reporting on those polls like the plague.
Since the Swamp refuses to report the polls even Obama's campaign manager refers to, I will:
Latest national polls:
Rasmussen: Clinton 38%, Obama 22%
CBS: Clinton 43%, Obama 22%
Gallup: Clinton 47%, Obama 25%
Posted by: Bruce | September 22, 2007 3:45 PM
I'm 75 years old and I have to say that Senator Obama is the best candidate for President that I have seen in the last 25 years.
Democrats usually pick their Presidential candidates late in the game after they have thought it over so I don't put much stock in all the current polling on the Democratic side.
Goodluck to all the potential candidates for President on both sides of the isle (Republican & Democratic), the President-elect in 08 is going to have huge undertaking trying to clean up what has happened to our country during the last 6+ years.
Posted by: Heather | September 22, 2007 3:51 PM
Barack Obama is my candidate for president.
I know people of all ages and backgrounds who support U.S. Senator Obama. Young and old. Black, white, brown and every hue in-between. Rich, poor and middle class. Military background and not.
This ex-USAF B-52 Crew Chief supports United States Senator Barack Obama because I believe he will be a good president of all the people of the United States of America. A president for all of us, working hard to protect all Americans.
Please help us make the United States and the World a better, safer place - elect Senator Obama president.
Posted by: Doug Zook | September 22, 2007 3:56 PM
"Senator Obama & Ron Paul Get Most Support From Military"
By Fredreka Schouten, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron Paul have little in common politically, except their opposition to the Iraq war.
Both top a new list of presidential candidates receiving campaign contributions from people who work for the four branches of the military and National Guard, according to a study released Thursday by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.
Obama, an Illinois senator, brought in more donations from this group than any White House contender from either party. The Democrat announced Wednesday his plan to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2008.
Paul, a Texas congressman and the only GOP presidential hopeful who supports an immediate troop withdrawal, comes in second.
"Paul and Obama are talking straight to soldiers, and what they are saying is resonating," said Larnell Exum, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, who gave $500 to Obama. Exum, who works for the Army as a congressional liaison, is a Democrat but voted for George Bush in 1992.
The center tallied money from donors who list the Air Force, Army, Marines, Navy and National Guard as an employer. Overall, these donations are miniscule: Obama got 44 contributions worth about $27,000 and Paul 23 for about $19,300. Republican John McCain, an Iraq war supporter and Vietnam prisoner of war, was third with about $18,500 from 32 donors.
In 2004, military personnel contributed $1.2 million to presidential and congressional candidates, the center said. This year, those donations are about $200,000.
The analysis also found that military personnel have shifted their donations. In 2002, the center said Democrats received 23% of contributions from military workers; Republicans got 77%. This year, 40% of their donations have gone to Democrats running for Congress and president. The GOP got 59%.
The donation patterns "would suggest that those who wear the uniform want change," said Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
Bruce Altschuler, a political scientist at the State University of New York at Oswego and a Vietnam veteran, said, "The whole country has been shifting to Democrats, and the military, in some ways, is a microcosm of society."
Spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Obama is pleased to have the support of those "who have sacrificed so much."
Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said the military support makes sense. The congressman "wants to get (troops) out of playing the world's policemen and get them home," he said.
Altschuler cautioned against reading too much into the early contributions, particularly in such small amounts. "These figures could look very different in a few months."
Posted by: Prez 29% | September 22, 2007 4:00 PM
This is absolutely true to the tilt. These polls will never be accurate until the day of the Iowa caucus. There is a stream of newly registered voters that are not being taken into consideration. Let's all go back to October 23, 2003. Howard Dean was leading 40% to 17% compared to John Kerry in NH. How did that work out? I am surprised that people have not learnt from that. Personally, I have recruited 32 NEWLY REGISTERED voters to take with me to the caucus. By the way, none of us have been polled nor anyone in our families. Its gonna be ugly for HRC in January. Mark my words.
Posted by: Antony | September 22, 2007 4:11 PM
Goodluck Senator Obama, the state of Illinois is pulling for you!
"Republicans Trail Democrats in Fund-Raising"
By ADAM NAGOURNEY
DES MOINES, July 3 — Two more Republican presidential candidates disclosed new fund-raising totals on Tuesday that underscored the tough political environment for their party and the big money advantage that the Democrats have built.
Former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, who led the Republican field in money raised in the first three months of the year, said donations to his primary campaign had dropped by a third in the second quarter, to $14 million from $20.5 million. Mr. Romney lent his campaign another $6.5 million out of his personal fortune to soften the impact of the decline in donations.
Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York mayor, raised more in the second quarter than he did in the first: $17 million including $2 million that he can use only if he wins the Republican nomination, versus about $15 million. But unlike the first quarter, when his fund-raising operation was just getting up and running, his campaign was fully operational in the second quarter.
And while his performance from April through June put him in first place among Republicans, Mr. Giuliani trailed substantially behind the record sums raised by two Democrats, Senators Barack Obama of Illinois and Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York. Mr. Obama raised a total of $32.5 million in the second quarter, and Mrs. Clinton about $27 million.
Mr. Romney and Mr. Giuliani released the figures a day after Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, reported that he raised less money in the second quarter than in the first, and said he would slash the size of his staff and focus his campaign on a few early voting states.
Put together, the results for the three leading Republicans amounted to a stark indication of a gap in enthusiasm and confidence between the two parties, driven in part by President Bush’s low approval ratings, the war in Iraq and the failure of any of the Republican candidates to emerge as a clear front-runner, strategists in both parties said.
The top three Democrats, including former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina, raised $68.5 million over the past three months, compared with $48.7 million for the top three Republicans, according to the reports. Since the start of the year, the Democrats raised nearly 50 percent more than the Republicans, $144.3 million compared with $101.7 million. That includes money that the candidates can use in the primary and in the general election.
Historically, the second-quarter receipts tend to grow for presidential candidates as donors get more involved and take sides in the race. Aides to the Republican candidates — as well as Republicans not involved in the race — said that this year might be an anomaly because the campaign had gotten so intense so early, but they nonetheless expressed deep concern at the reports and what it said about the health of their party.
“It’s a combination of the president’s historically low approval rating and the overall state of affairs in Washington that is demoralizing Republicans and energizing Democrats,” said Scott Reed, who managed the 1996 Republican presidential campaign of Senator Bob Dole of Kansas. “It doesn’t mean it’ll make it all the way to 2008 Election Day, but that sure is the climate we are in now.”
Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2007 4:16 PM
As far as me and my house, we will vote for Obama. I have my entire neighborhood with yard signs displayed; Obama 2008! It is a little too early to say who will win. For example, John Kerry was leading the polls in 2004, but in the end, bush won. Polls mean nothing. Votes do. The media is to blame for this frenzy. It seems as though hillary is the candidate they want for president.
How can the American citizens vote for for a candidate like hillary, she is too corrupt, don't you agree?
Obama is what the country need at this time. Even though Rep Kendrick Meek endorsed her, that means nothing. Most of the Blacks in Miami, Florida is backing Obama.
Posted by: Sailor, Miami Gardens, Florida | September 22, 2007 4:30 PM
In the end Obama will prevail. He has my vote.
Posted by: Mitty | September 22, 2007 4:34 PM
As a christian, I see no other candidate that will get my vote, but Obama. There is too much mudslinging coming from Clinton and Edwards's camp. From reading God's WORD, he simply states," Do all Things Decently and in Order". What I am seeing that is not being practice. These candidate must remember there are a lot of christians that do vote and most feel the way that I do.
Obama 2008!
Posted by: Karen | September 22, 2007 4:49 PM
Down nearly 20 points overall, trailing HC in every important demographic that a Dem MUST HAVE to win... Mr Fluff is all but finished, and good riddance!
Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2007 5:21 PM
http://democracyforum.blogspot.com
Obama is strength and judgment.
Posted by: Paramendra Bhagat | September 22, 2007 5:21 PM
Obama campaign manager: Don't count us out....
Gives another 2 rounds and that should do it before we go home, to the island.Amen
Posted by: frank carter | September 22, 2007 6:11 PM
Obama campaign manager: Don't count us out, just gives us another 2 months then we are out off here back home to island..Amen
Posted by: frank carter | September 22, 2007 6:13 PM
The long-winded Mr. Plouffe's memo contained one interesting sentence: "Our problems and our failures on big issues like health care, energy, and education pre-date the Bush Administration ..."
The Clinton (Bill) administration pre-dated the Bush administration. Has Sen. Obama ever detailed how he thinks the Clinton administration "failed" on "health care, energy and education"? Or is he going to do his usual leadership bit and avoid detail on these charges, just like he avoided voting on the moveon.org resolution?
Posted by: Bruce | September 22, 2007 7:52 PM
The latest http://www.rasmussenreports.com/ poll has Hillary Up 36% to Obama's 25%. Since Senator Obama proposed the middle class tax cuts, and Clinton proposed her Healthcare plan, Senator Clinton's numbers have gone down slightly, and Obama's have gone up some.
It will be interesting to see what happens after those fund raising numbers come out.
Posted by: Jim | September 22, 2007 8:34 PM
Senator Obama didn't avoid the MoveOn vote, he refused to be a party to the ridiculous political posturing that neglected important issues for this Republican folly.
Every day our troops die in Iraq while the clowns in Congress play petty partisan games. It's a tired old Republican standard for taking the focus off their own pathetic record--and shame on all of the Democrats who fell for the bait.
Any one of the Democratic candidates would be better than the pathetic offerings on the other side of the aisle, and Obama outshines all of them.
Posted by: bklynsam | September 22, 2007 9:24 PM
I thought Prez's comment was balanced and good; that Obama and Ron Paul appeal to the military folks.
I like Obama also, but not as president. In order for me to endorse him he would need to resign from the Council on Foreign Relations (an insidious organization) and distance himself from Brzezinski, whom Obama has retained as advisor. Brzezinski is a one-world government (CFR) guy and represents a dire threat to our Republic.
Ron Paul, by comparison, is savvy enough to steer clear of the CFR and any association. He knows it is the CFR that has steered our country onto the rocky shoals of GATT, NAFDA, the WTO, the U.N., NATO and the likely North American Union. All of these organizations represent a significant threat to our sovereignty and existence as a nation. Paul has my vote.
Posted by: zenpiper | September 22, 2007 9:41 PM
Hillary is doomed.
Obama '08!
Posted by: Hagar | September 22, 2007 9:54 PM
its just america is not ready for black kenya american oabam- black guy who dominate and tell the white peple in congress and senate what to do- black guy cannot do that.oabam has no epsreience plus young and is not time for america to pick black guy
for pres. pres, clinton .bill was right- hillary is going to solve the americas problem that bush destroy so bad.
Posted by: laura | September 22, 2007 11:58 PM
obama volunteers will drive for hours and walk for miles? you better belive we would(and have)
Obama 08!
Posted by: Aaron | September 23, 2007 1:46 AM
Major difference I see in Obama support: his supporters love him. Hillary's supporters like her, or only see her as inevitable just because they can't see past Obama's youth and/or race and imagine him as POTUS. Obama has enthusiastic supporters of all ages, ethnicities, religions, interest groups, yes even Republicans. He has even inspired my son to speak out for him and sport paraphernalia for Obama - and my kid's more cynical about politicians than I am. And yes, he'll vote!
Posted by: VCubed | September 23, 2007 8:52 AM
the bit about the polls being conducted by land lines only is the most indicative of the reasons for the results. I don't think I know anyone younger than my parent's age with a land line, so it makes sense that older, more change resistant folks would be hillary supporters.
Posted by: peter nevins | September 23, 2007 9:32 AM
Pople like laura who can't even spell her own name correctly should go and learn english first before coming to a blog like this to show their foolishness.
Lack of education is a disease.
Posted by: Combymax | September 23, 2007 9:37 AM
Obama's supporters at the Swamp are already starting to establish excuses for his dismal poll numbers.
Case in point is the article in Sunday's Tribune by John McCormick, who trots out a line last used to excuse John Kerry's defeat: "He's just too intelligent to connect to the average voter!"
Yes, Obama's lofty, nuanced, complicated thoughts and textured syntax are on too high a plain for most Democrats!
Put another way, us common folk are too stupid to appreciate Obama's greatness.
And these elitists in the media and in the Obama camp wonder why they lose elections....
Posted by: Bruce | September 23, 2007 9:52 AM
"obama volunteers will drive for hours and walk for miles..."
Posted by: Aaron | September 23, 2007 1:46 AM
"Major difference I see in Obama support: his supporters love him..."
Posted by: VCubed | September 23, 2007 8:52 AM
You guys forgot to mention the all important Oprah endorsement. Ah, some more fluff from 2 of the disciples of Mr Fluff.
In spite of the undying love and devotion from a few head cases, Obama's candidacy continues to stall. Unlike the other candidates (most importantly HC) his support is not broad based. He needs the support of Women, Blacks, the Working Class to win, and he's just not getting it.
Goodbye Barak.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 10:05 AM
One of demographics that I forgot to mention, in which Boy Wonder also lacks support, is the elderly.
And yet he just recently blew off a chance to woo them, and attended yet another fund raising event instead. Now, since he has tons of money why would he let that golden opportunity slip away?
He has always done very poorly in forums where he's required to think on his feet. It's reasonable to assume that he didn't want to make things worse by sticking his foot in his mouth yet again.
The point is that Obama's intelligence and glibness is a myth. The usual elitist position -- "He's losing because he's so smart" -- has no real basis.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 11:01 AM
It seems to me that Obama's detractors are the ones who just fear real change the most. Why the rancor towards him and the hurry to shuffle him out the door? If he's as doomed as these armchair pundits like to predict then why attack him? HRC has some major problems and while I won't sit here and guarantee Obama victory his support is broad and deep and there's no sense in writing off Hillary, Edwards or Obama at this stage. In Iowa, where it counts, it's a tight three way race that could go to anybody.
I'm for Obama all the way because he's an intelligent articulate candidate who actually talks like a person and thinks for himself and not some servant of the lobbyists. Edwards is a good man as well and I'd be happy if he was nominated. I don't like HRC because of her mindless and enduring war support (until lately) and her Wal-Mart board member sitting, union busting past. Why not pick a candidate you like and advocate for them instead of trying to knock the ones that scare you with poll numbers that have proven very quickly changeable in the past?
Posted by: James Thomas | September 23, 2007 1:12 PM
Hang in there, folks. Don't believe the Hillary machine and media hype. Latest Rasmussen poll Hillary 36%, Obama 25%. She's slipping, slipping, slipping...good riddance! Obama's rising. Obama'08!
Posted by: RuthieM | September 23, 2007 2:33 PM
You are doing a great injustice to count out Senator Obama. Obama is a very smart, charismatic individual who has been consistent in this race. He did not vote on the MOVEON ad b/c he refused to waste time on that when we have people dying in Iraq and frankly I agree.
I was a Clinton supporter but with her vote on that, on top of her mimicking the healthcare policy of Edwards and Obama, her continually changing her mind to fit her audience, it is really get ridiculous.
I don't really know what ideas she has b/c she just says what people want to hear!! And her branding her experience, if she is counting being first lady and being privy to her husbands ideas then heck, I guess we need to hold off and wait for Monica Lewinsky's entry to the race b/c looks to me like he shared more information with her than he did his wife.
Posted by: Crystal | September 23, 2007 2:39 PM
I Do Believe Most Of You Obama Fans Thinks This Man Walks On Water,You Can't Speak Without Senator Clintons Name Being Used In Your Script,Fact Of The Matter Is Obama Is One Of If Not The Biggest Liars On The Campaign Trail,And I see It's OK For Mr Plouffe The Mention In The Early Primary States That Obama Is In A Three Way Tie According To State Polls But Where Hilliary's Polls # Are Conserned They Tend To Be Bogus Numbers,Now He's Using His Deceased Mother As His Reasons For Voters To Feel Sorry For Him ,Just Like That Pathetic John Ewards.And By The Way Mr Fluffe When Ever You Made The Reference To Obama In New Hampshire,I Noticed You Twisted Your Statement Just A Little When You Said That Obama Was Building On A Foundation Was Huge Trying To Lead Voters To Think Obama Is In Close Proximity Of Senator Clinton,When In Fact She Has A 18 Point Lead Ahead Of You Mr Obama,As A Matter Of Fact She Out Polls Obama In Every Poll Nationally,You Can Go And Find A Poll That Suits You And Mr Obama,But It's Not A Coincidence That She's Out Polling Obama In All The States,Including IOWA
Posted by: Captain-Sky | September 23, 2007 4:09 PM
Bruce claims Obama is sliding in the polls and cites current numbers of 20-25%. Well, funny thing, 20-25% seems to be about where he was in June... And this despite repeated controversies over what many Clinton supporters would term 'gaffes' on foreign policy.
Granted, Hillary seems to have trended up from the high 30s to the low 40s, but methinks the lady's supporter doth protest too much.
Posted by: Carrington Ward | September 23, 2007 6:29 PM
One hopes the national polling does not replicate the polling here. "Bruce" seems to have voted early and often.
Posted by: Carrington Ward | September 23, 2007 6:33 PM
A warning to the wise-choosing between the "change agent" and a "experienced politician" is not much of a choice since the experience is not on the resume. Obama easily trounces Hillary on this point...dont be fooled by so-called experience, it can be dangerous.
Posted by: Maurice | September 23, 2007 9:00 PM
"Carrington", where would you get the idea that I'm a Clinton supporter? Do you always just state things as fact without trying to determine if they're true or not?
You Obama-philes are going to have to admit the reality that despite the Swampune reporters working overtime in Obama's behalf, your candidate is trailing badly and falling further behind.
Posted by: Bruce | September 24, 2007 12:35 AM
People in the primary states are seeing Obama for what he really is. A media creation. He has never done anything to speak of. He is in bed with the most corrupt political organization in the country (cook County Democrats) Now he is even skipping debates because he always gets destroyed by Hillary. Basucally the article said: Do not count us out because we say so. You guys sout on about how he is diff and how he is going to change things. Yeah right. When your mentor is the corrupt Emil JOnes, and you have ties to Tony Rezko, written letters on behalf of Rezko to help him secure state contracts. Please, Obama is getting trounced in all 3 early primary states and even in 3rd in Iowa in some polls. Face it Hillary is just the better choice.
Posted by: Vinny | September 24, 2007 11:32 AM
Basically Obama and his supporters are saying because our man is losing bad, early poll numbers do not mean anything. Even though he is losing in all 3 primary states. I would like to see the poll he is taling about that has Obama w/in the margin for error in the primary states. Not one poll i have seen even has him closer than double digits.
Posted by: Vinny | September 24, 2007 11:35 AM
David.
You and Mr. O are riding a bus to oblivion.
There is so little original thought coming from you guys lately. Why? Contrary to convention, it will not be about the money next year. It will be about the human being beneath the candidate's mask.
Email me if you want some ideas. I've tried my rock star connections to get through to you already - with zero luck.
Your move.
Bob
Posted by: Bob | November 3, 2007 7:25 PM