It makes sense becuase Kissinger did such a GOOD job in Vietnam. Note the sarcasm.

No tell me this is not true!Kissinger sold out every Vietnam Vet. I will never forgive him for what he did. We need a winner not a loser like Henry Kissinger. Did you know he is one of the ones who lost the War in Vietnam for us by taken a peace plan turned down by LBJ . My God What is Bush thinking?

If Henry Kissinger still thinks of power as the ultimate aphrodisiac, I hope Laura Bush has put plenty of newspapers down on the floor before he visits!

Who's next,G Gordon Liddy ?

Charlie Colson ?

E Howard Hunt ?

Jeb Magruder ?

Ollie North ?

Jailhose Rock ?

Being that Kissinger is a realist I hope he chastizes all the neo-cons for entangling the US in a war that had nothing to do w/ US interests.

George W. Bush has to be the most stupid man on this planet earth.
Now that Dubya has started a "Vietnam Like" war in Iraq,he's going to bring in the same guy who actually ran the Vietnam war in the ground to help him out.

Any Vietnam Vets out there???
What do you think of this latest pathedic attempt by the Cowboy in Chief???
Thankyou for your service to our country,most of us liberals understand the tragedy that was put upon you,and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

I cant see Kissingers compound sentence, poly-syllabic oration making a lick of sense to the President. This must explain Cheneys presence.
Perhaps Kissinger can distill his thinking down to these two words - Fire Rumsfeld.

"a good hard sense of reality" yet..."we're all the president's men".

For sure. This is best illustrated by HK's dual reactions to news of the leaked 1971 Pentagon Papers:

Kissinger at first said it would "if anything...help us a little bit, because this is a gold mine of showing how the previous administration got us in there [Vietnam]" and "pins it all on Kennedy and Johnson." But Nixon, evidently reflecting Haig's comment, said that the "bastards that put it out" had done something "treasonable." Kissinger reversed himself. "It's treasonable," he said, "there's no question."

Good luck Dubya!

I understand that they also are recruiting
Donald Segretti to work with his old buddy Karl.
I can only hope they all go on a hunting trip together.

Dr. K would be a good Bush adviser on how to avoid war crimes tribunals (can you hear me Christopher Hitchens?). To be fair, he did a great job in Dr. Strangelove (can you hear me Stanley Kubrick?).

Henry KISSinger? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Why don't you and all your cronies here on the swamp be next, Loon? You seem to have all the answers. If there were a ProBowl for Monday morning QB's, you and the rest of these liberal buffoons would all be perennial starters, and you would be the MVP. Clearly you feel you're ready to accept the challenge on the world stage, like Kiss,... so why don't you and the rest of the self-proclaimed geniuses step forward and share your worldly experiences in diplomacy with those who don't attend "the swamp."

Or, more likely, maybe you'll sit on your hemp made couch and let the decision makers make the tough choices, then you can castigate them if that decision,whatever it may be, proves to be challenging. My guess is that's how it works in your daily life as well!

This isn't news. Kessinger long ago admitted that he has been offering counsel to President Bush. Get back to us when the counsel turns out to be valuable.

As one of the proud buffoons...my advise on diplomacy would be...lets not start a war with Iraq. I know they don't have WMD's and it will only create more terrorists.

Oh..and while we're at it..lets also secure our borders..there may be terrorist that would come into our country that way.

Crazy Rob,why are you picking on me?

If i had a couch made of hemp,i'd put on some Doors (Light My Fire)get me a blow torch,and light that *%#*er up.

Rob,you seem like a nice guy,just wound a little tight,loosen up dude.

I'll come out sometime with my VW van,and we can play Cheech and Chong.

Please,enough of the football analogies,Bill gets teed off.

RKS,
It seems that you have been taking lessons from John D./JD.
I've read your post,and.......what exactly is your point again?????
Conservatives = Good
Liberals = Bad
I also see that you have graduated from the school of "Paulo".
I'm guessing that you were the class valedictorian.

To be fair, he did a great job in Dr. Strangelove (can you hear me Stanley Kubrick?).

Posted by: Kenny Bunkport | Sep 29, 2006 2:07:10 PM

CORRECTION:
Kubrick said (and it is VERY obvious) that Dr. Strangelove was not based upon Henry Kissenger. Dr. S. was meant to be a composite character inspired by the various Nazi scientists who came to work for the US government and live in the US -- and whose pasts were conveniently ignored.

Kissenger is Jewish, and I think a refugee from the Nazis, so that common mistake is particularly distasteful.

It's not that I like Kissenger, mind you. He's a toad.

The difference between critisizing the President and Monday Morning QBing is that the latter is just a game while the former actually has a real impact on our lives and real human lives are at stake. But I suppose that in the minds of conservatives like RKS anything less than kool-aid consumtion is Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

Bush is a glorious leader! Who were we at war with? Eurasia or East Asia? Doesn't matter. This kool-aid tastes pretty good.

Let's see, there is no Iraq/ Vietnam analogy.

Operation Arc Light, here we come.
Free Fire Zone, they're on the run

Operation Phoenix, it' there too
The air's taking on a 'pink mist' hue

Just when you things are just too rich
Here comes Kissinger, the s&5 of a b*&#%

Now the kids will see how it's done

Henry Kissinger is one of the most respected men in Washington by both Republicans and dems.
There is nothing wrong with exchanging ideas with great men like Mr.Kissinger,of course you noticed B.J.Clinton and Jimmy Carter are not invited since they both left this country weak and vulnerable after their failed terms.
Carter with his Iran fiasco that led to the explosion of radical Islam that got us into the mess we're in today and of course,the clueless, B.J.Clinton the man who couldn't get Osama....even tho he had 8-12 chances.
President Bush and Henry Kissinger will go down in history as great men solving huge problems,while B.J.and Carter shamed themselves and our great country.
After the dems leave office,there is always a mess to clean up by the Republicans.History has already shown this.
Paulo

"Dr. K would be a good Bush adviser on how to avoid war crimes tribunals (can you hear me Christopher Hitchens?). To be fair, he did a great job in Dr. Strangelove (can you hear me Stanley Kubrick?).

Posted by: Kenny Bunkport | Sep 29, 2006 2:07:10 PM"

KB!

You are channeling me now!
"Some day we'll meet again" BOOM!!!!

(Sorry JB, The music and film refs. are just too cogent.)

Paulo,the only thing that Bush and Kissinger have in common is that one is wanted in connection to war crimes,and the other one is trying to fiqure out a way to avoid them.

That my good friend from Brazil,is what history will show.

Henry Kissinger...Dr. Henry Kissinger...I remember him as Secretary of State during the Vietnam war days. Old guy now. Has seen alot. Skeletons in his closet too I understand. Bush brings him on as Iraqi adviser. Interesting, huh.
Mr. Bush told us the mission in Iraq was accomplished. Smarmy Cheney told us all is going well in Iraq and the insurgency is in its death throes.
I think anyone with an open mind and any objectivity knows that Iraq is a diaster. Let's see what this Mr. Kissinger does here.

Paulo your talking points on Clinton have been proving wrong enough.Read my post he is hated just about as much as Hanoi Jane by Vietnam vets.

"In a quote in which he was evidently speaking about Nixon, Kissinger said, "When you meet the president, you ask yourself, 'How did it ever occur to anybody that he should be governor much less president?'" For all we know, Kissinger doesn't have the same opinion about Bush, but it illustrates a healthy disrespect of politicians."

Come on.

Can we even begin to imagine what he thinks of Shrub?

Paulo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm losing any hope for you. You have now added every history book ever written to your list. Get to work.

Juanito,

I was joking. Kissinger was edited out of A Clockwork Orange. :-)

I doubt he prefers being called a "toad" to my wisecrack.

A true Dr. K story:

He has a brother who immigrated with him in the 1940's. The brother no longer has a discernible German accent. When asked about it, Kissinger responded, "that's the brother who listens."

Paulo,

American support of the Shah of Iran began during the Eisenhower administration, when it was feared Iran's oil would go to the Soviets. Years later, Carter reluctantly allowed the Shah to come to the US for medical treatment. His illness created a leadership vacuum which brought back the Ayatollah and fundamentalism. Yes, on Carter's watch, but certainly not his fault.

"I was joking. Kissinger was edited out of A Clockwork Orange. :-)"

Kenny B,

Now you are hitting them out.

S.Kubrick is my favorite American director. Too bad he had to go to London, England to have the freedom he needed to make his great body of work.
(aroo, see all his films, you are in Clockwork Orange.

Man, look at the expression on 'Psycho Man's' face while he is looking at Colin.

Remorseless, reptilian stare.

Must be receiving a download from Mephistopheles.

Kenny Bunkport,

I didn't realize you were kidding because a lot of people seriously believe that Dr. Strangelove was based on Kissenger. Again, I don't bring that up to defend the man. He's dispicable -- I thought I was being easy on him by calling him a toad.

By the way, Peter Sellers' characterization of President Merkin Muffley in "Dr. Strangelove" was based on Adlai Stevenson.

I'm a huge Kubrick fan in case you haven't guessed.

C.Morris:
Have you seen "Paths of Glory"?

Juanito,

Paths of Glory,

Yes. I think it was Kirk Douglass's greatest performance.

Re'Doctor Strangelove'

Kubrick didn't tell Slim Pickens, the B-52 pilot character, that the film was a dark comedy. He kept his performance isolated to get a completely irony free performance, thus actually revving up the irony.

Also, having Sellers play three roles in the film was a joke. Dual roles were all the new rage and doing a triple was a joke. His RAF Mandrake was hilarious. The only sane man in the asylum.

...Henry is most welcome...

...(as long as he brings Jill St. John)...

Kbunk, Juanito,

You got me going on Kubrick.

The actor who played the renegade General Jack Ripper, was Sterling Hayden. Maybe the finest B movie actor of the era. B movie is not a slight. That's what independent films were called in that era..

Anyway, Hayden stared in Kubricks first (I think) major film, 'The Killing.' He turned in a compelling performance in every role he ever played. One scary guy.

Also, Kubrick had to take over direction of 'Spartacus' when the first director died. The second half shows it, but the whole film is too long, for me.

Also, the famous anachronism; one of the Romans was wearing a watch!! Just goes to show, don't take yourself too seriously.

Re; Full Metal Jacket

Kubrick liked to stay in the studio as much as possible; didn't like location shoots.

But when he tried to duplicate the destruction of Hue City after the Tet Offensive, he found it looked fake no matter what he did.

He coined a neat phrase; 'Rubble has a logic all it's own.'

City of London happened to be blowing up a blighted south end slum at the time and Kubrick got permission to shoot there for a week or so before they hauled the rubble away.

All he had to do was add some Vietnamese signage and some gas fires and there ya go. One of the grimmest, most realistic war scenes ever filmed.

It's a great film, and was totally dissed by US critics.

M-I-C K-E-Y......M-O-U-S-E

Kenny Bunkport....You almost got it right,but The Shaw left Iran in Jan.of 1979 and took refuge in Egypt,Morocco,Bahamas and Mexico.During this time Khomeini was allowed back in Iran and started his movement.
In Oct.of 1979,Jimmy Carter "allowed" the Shaw to seek medical treatment in the U.S. Khomeini was upset,gave a few anti-U.S speeches and that was the start of the hostage crisis.The Shaw died a year later.
Paulo

C.Morris,

Yeah I like "Full Metal Jacket", but I think it's one of his lesser films. Still, I'd rather watch a weaker effort by Kubrick than the best work of some other people.

I love the Slim Pickens story. It's hard to believe that K would be able to sustain the secret through the entire shoot though. Hilarious if it's true.

One more piece of trivia: "Dr. Strangelove" was the film debut for a young James Earl Jones.

And I tip my hat to Kirk Douglas. It was he who got Kubrick as the replacement director for "Sparticus", and that was a major break for Stanley's careeer.

Hey, wern't we supposed to be talking about Kissenger?

Juanito, yes it’s easy to forget about Kissenger, and with a little luck maybe Kissenger will see how hopeless it is trying to help those morons.

Then again, Kissenger fits well in an administration that’s more corrupt than last one he was part of.

This is why I don't understand why we are in Iraq. This was the advice he gave to George 1.

Once you've got Baghdad, it's not clear what you do with it. It's not
clear what kind of government you would put in place of the one that's
currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime or
a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that
tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists? How much credibility is that
government going to have if it's set up by the United States military
when it's there? How long does the United States military have to stay to
protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens
to it once we leave?
-- Sec. of Defense Dick Cheney, April 1991

"Hey, wern't we supposed to be talking about Kissenger?

Posted by: Juanito | Sep 30, 2006 7:43:46 AM"

Yes, but sometimes when the blog slows down a little off subject material doesn't hurt.
I find most of the people posting here to very interesting and smart.

But, Kubrick did have political elements in his films. And FMJ was about a subject related to Kissinger.

It's just one war criminal assisting another war criminal. I see neo-cons on this sight don't have a problem with this. But then again we were going to be welcomed as liberators. The freak'n blind leading the blind, only it's our kids that are paying the price!

But, Kubrick did have political elements in his films. And FMJ was about a subject related to Kissinger.

Posted by: C.Morris | Sep 30, 2006 12:39:22 PM

This is why I wish I could believe in the Christian concept of an afterlife: It would comfort me to know that the likes of Nixon and Kissinger would rot in Hell.

I think Kissinger's imput is welcomed by this administration because he is both intelligent and pragmatic -- qualities that are sorely lacking among Bush & Co.

Now THAT'S scary: an intelligent, pragmatic evil man.

Juanito,

At this point I should submit 'Sympathy for the Devil' lyrics, but I'll just call it 'Henry's Song'.