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May 22, 2009

Yankee fan: O's fans way too rude

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People write in to say the darndest things. I offer this with no further comment:

On Friday the 8th of May, my family and I had the privilege to attend the game between the Orioles & the Yankees. Having never been to, and having always wanted to see Camden Yards, it was the perfect early Mother's Day gift. Coming from NY, and of course Yankee fans to boot, we couldn't wait for the game to start.

Unfortunately it turned into a nightmare for the five of us. Sitting behind us were four of the most obnoxious Baltimore Orioles fans: loud crude and downright mean spirited. I realize we all have a different definition of what a fan constitutes, and I do not begrudge any fan the loyalty they show the teams they love. But their behavior was more then we bargained for. We all finally got up and sat in the above court to watch the end of the game. We just couldn't stand another moment of any of them.

We will not be coming back to Baltimore soon, if ever. These four young men spoiled what was going to be a great experience, seeing Camden Yards and the game. At least going home we could say we had a great meal at LP Steamers, and the staff treated us like we were family.

What Baltimore has to define itself as a wonderful city and vacation spot, can easily be marred by the residents of Baltimore. Sad commentary on the true meaning of kindness and the true spirit of what baseball represents to each and every fan.

Thank you for your time, I am,

Sincerely yours,

Barbara C. Nickerson, Saugerties, N.Y.

Posted by Andy Green at 9:10 AM | | Comments (29)
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Comments

#%^$ you, lady!

That's too bad she didn't have a good stadium experience, which I tend to have pretty often. For example, when I go to Yankee Stadium I always learn something new. Sometime it's an exciting new word for poop, revelations about the umpires' geneology, and sometimes even a whole new body part that I didn't even know I could shove a baseball. Yankee Stadium is such an enlightening place. Why can't it be like that here?

because all New Yorkers are sooooooo nice!!!

get the h*ll out of our state and never come back. we don't like you and your kind.

I bet they spit on your food at LP's for wearing Yankees gear. IDIOT!

5 down, too many more to go. Good work. Typical of New Yorkers to be so thin-skinned.

I'm glad her Mother's Day sucked

Wear an Orioles jersey to Stankee Stadium and watch what happens to you.

Idiot.

I'm still laughing from the episode of "Homicide" when the detectives go to Oriole Park to investigate a death. The victim is wearing a Yankees cap. Before diving into the investigation, Detective Munch asks for someone to review the Maryland Criminal Code to make sure it's really a crime to kill a Yankees fan.
And if she thinks obnoxious fans are marring Baltimore, it's probably a good thing she didn't leave the tourist areas.

I must say I am sorry for your experiance as well as some of the posts; however, if you had a clue about the state of baseball (haves vs. have nots) you might be able to appreciate where these fans are coming from. In the past 11 seasons the O's have losing records while all that's heard about the Yankees is how bad things are when they do not finish 1st. Sounds a lot like my little league teams where 1 team is stacked and all the others have 2-3 good players. It must feel good to pick out other's flaws when you have the most talent, most money. and winningest record in histrory on your side. Welcome to Real Life!

I wonder why Barbara didn't offer any insight into what she considers "loud crude and downright mean spirited" behavior?

What is truly sad commentary is Barbara lumping the entire citizens of Baltimore with four people sitting behind her in a stadium. She offers no proof as to what their behavior was. She also offers no proof that these people were in fact from Baltimore. Assumptions, Barbara, assumptions.

For all anyone knows, they could have been farting the most noxious fumes ever known to man, and this would have offended her so dearly that the only way for her to feel better is to write a blog author. Who knows? Are we to take her word for it, and if so why?

Well thier New York fan. Your peers threw D-Cell batteries at my family a few years back at the Old Yankee Stadium. At least the verbal assult did not leave a giant bruise on your child's back. Please with the verbal jabs considering what Yankee fans have done for years. They threw a chair at Roger Maris. Please with the verbal....

Maybe you should think twice about traveling to an opposing stadium to cheer on your team.

We don't want you here. Did you expect to be greated with open arms?

I wouldn't even think of going to Yankee Stadium to see the Orioles play there. I wouldn't feel comfortable. I would fear for my well-being. Yankee fans don't like opposing fans coming into their stadium and take matters into their own hands to keep them from coming back. It's one thing to talk smack and taunt opposing fans, but when it becomes a physical assault, a line is crossed. There is a difference, Barb.

As a native New Yorker and Baltimore resident for 15 years, I agree. I know we kid around in NYC and can be sarcastic but in Baltimore, people are just rude because they can be. That post comes from what seems like a decent, well spoken and polite woman (so you KNOW she isn't from Charm City) visiting with her family, just look at the replies. Baltimore is a bunch of inbred hillbillies with no teeth, the only time they act tough is when they are in thier car ("Oh no, you're not going to move over in front of me!!! I'll show you!!"). If you are standing in front of them they don't say a word. I hate it here but my ship is stationed here so I am stuck, at least until I can retire and GET OUT!

Woman, I think you need a modesty transplant and a brain scan.

I know you are, but what am I?
Sheesh.

As a Baltimore native living in NY, I would just like to comment on the behavior of Yankees fans last night.

I had the displeasure to see four young males terrorizing a local guard who was trying to throw them out. These males were overly intoxicated and were embarrassingly crude. The personal insults that they rattled off was nothing short of hideous.

With that said, I am intelligent enough to know this small sample of miscreants is probably not average.

Pirate 1001- you are what's wrong with New Yorkers. Arrogant to a fault and yet you can't even spell "their" correctly. So how would you even know what well spoken is?

It's funny, but where I sit, the Yankee fans have almost taken over, and a fairly large group of them were thrown out of the stands, the last game I attended. I really don't like to go to Yankee games, and I would never take my grandkids. The one time I took them, one of the great drunken Yankee fans had spit in the face of the usher after he was asked to leave and my grandson watched the whole thing and made it a topic of conversation for a couple of days.

I should look her up on the internet and invite her to Baltimore so she can see REAL Orioles Fans and let her see who the REAL RUDE fans are, ie they're the ones who wear Yankees stuff.

Got to agree with the comments that to say all Baltimore fans are terrible based on whatever it is these four O's fans did (perhaps they had the audacity to boo Alex ROIDriguez or Mark Tesellout since they're both obviously the reincarnation of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig) is pretty ridiculous. Furthermore, when you compare it to the behavior I've seen over many years exhibited by the legions of Yankee fans who seem to think they have Manifest Destiny to berate anyone and anything that won't sing "New York, New York Uber Alles," well, it's not even worth mentioning. Finally, I have to say, as an O's fan for 30 years and a long-time reader of these assorted sports blogs, I never laughed harder than when I read some of these posts suggesting what "Barbara" can go do with herself and her little Yankee larvae. I mean, officially, I'm offended at this less than Emily Post comments by my fellow O's fans, but personally, I think it's hilarious! Now LET'S GO O'S, beat the Nats, get those future Hall of Famers down at Norfolk up here, let's celebrate the cutting of Adam "Bye, Bye Mr. Spalding" Eaton and play BALL!

Ever try to go pee at yankee stadium while they are playing God Bless America?

YANKEE fans are calling anyone rude, how appauling. This is good for the O's, their fans, and the yard. Believe me there has been little to nothing to cheer or boo for there in the past 12 years. Let's just not take it too far guys.

I'm sorry Ms. Nickerson and her family had that sort of experience, as well, although it's unfair to tag all of Baltimore based on the actions of some fans, particularly when the Yankees are in town. The O's lack of competitiveness, combined with the extraordinarily large number of out-of-town fans, is a bad recipe. As a season ticket holder, I've grown to look forward to the games against teams other than the Yankees or the Red Sox for this very reason.

What I have noticed about Camden Yards is that the staff is very good about cracking down on poor behavior -- whether it's by fans of the O's or fans of the other team -- as long as they are made aware of it. This season, you can even send text messages to alert the O's security staff, so you don't even need to find an usher. (Signs are posted about texting procedures at the ballpark.)

Baltimore fans are no different than the fans in most cities. Most are gracious, and even though they hate to watch their team toss away games (like they did on Mother's Day), they won't act like jerks. There are also some who tarnish the reputation of Camden Yards, particularly after they've had a few brews. I haven't been to the new Yankee Stadium, but I'll bet you'll find your share of jerks there, as well, and they paid four times as much to go to their stadium!

Ballpark attendants will take care of most truly obnoxious or outlawed behavior (smoking, overt drunkenness, etc.). DId she ask for help? I'm sure the Orioles find it in their interest to make sure even the hated Yankees fans have an okay time. Seat selection may also be part of the formula for having a more family-friendly experience.

I was at Yankee Stadium late last July when they played the O's and the Yankees fans were rude and big mouthed, but it was all in the spirit of the game. They weren't threatening and I've never seen fans at the Yard be either but Yankee fans are definitely more over the top than Orioles fans.

You mean you're not coming back? Ahh shux, I'll get the cake.

I wish i knew who those four guys were i would buy them all a beer.

If she wants to talk about fans how about the 23 year old female yankee's fan who wanted to fight my 62 year old mother on mother's day last year.

This whole thread is cracking me up. Getting etiquette lesson from a New Yorker. What a hoot!
It also reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where they threw Elaine out of the park for wearing a O's cap. Priceless!

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