No breaks for illegal immigrants Mr. Miller.
THE LAW IS THE LAW.
WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

Illegals can't vote and don't contribute to the system, why is there even a debate? They aren't citizens and they don't deserve the same benefits as citizens. Start working for the people that voted for you instead of against their interests.

How did this idiotic Bill even make it to the debate stage?
Maybe I'm being a bit too logical, which our Legislature has a difficult time with, but if people are in this country ILLEGALLY that would indicate they are committing a CRIME
Why on earth would you grant them in state status for anything?We are supposed to punish them not reward them.
Will these elected officials stop at nothing to garner votes?Are you people completely insane?

No, the bill does not provide resident rates. It redefines 'resident rates' because using the term resident would actually put Maryland in conflict with federal law. What they're doing with this bill is trying to create a new standard for tuition setting to avoid the words 'resident'/'citizen'/etc.

Secondly, there was an Attorney General's opinion in 2006 that said Maryland community colleges could NOT provide 'in-county rates' for so-called non-documented immigrants (illegal immigrants/aliens/whatever you terminology you want to use). Montgomery County chose to ignore this opinion and proceeded to provide in-county tuition for said individuals. Now they're in the middle of a lawsuit and part of this bill is attempting to cover Montgomery County's proverbial backside.

Ultimately, increasing eligibility for in-state tuition will make it tougher for anyone to get into a MD public 4 year institution because all MD community college graduates are guranteed a spot in a USM system school upon recieving their AA. There is a limited number of instate spots because the state subsidizes instate student's tuition.

another WTF moment in maryland politics.

Maybe when they apply they can be deported! Illegal is Illegal!

Heh if they're ILLEGAL immigrants than they SHOULD NOT be given the same rights and privledges that LEGAL immigrants and stats residents get. Period.
Simple. GET LEGAL !!!

This still baffles my mind. Im not sure what there is to talk about? If you are illegal you aren't legal. At that point all talks should stop. You aren't here legally therefore you need to go. End of subject.

You think they could challange this bill in court as being illeagal. they are diverting funds to aid crimminals in Maryland. I hope it does not pass.

If you assist someone in committing a crime, can't you be charged with criminal conspiracy or, at least, aiding and abetting?

This Legal vs Illegal argument is really beside the point.
Remember we are here because we all but wiped out Native Americans, so stop the Bull!
Then we proceeded to introduce laws to prevent others to do what we did.

Look deep in your hearts as Human Beings and if someone elses garden is not as plentiful as yours, go give them some seeds.

Ugh NO this Legal vs Illegal argument isn't beside the point. It doesn't matter what happen ages ago. These are the rules right now today.

That like saying back in the gladiator days it was ok to kill people so today it is beside the point.

I cannot beleive this even got out of committee. This is yet another example of the one party system made up of maily liberal democrats. Of course Omouthy will
ok this for his" New americans" I am sooooo sick of this state government.

you're still doing it . . . calling them immigrants . . . they are simply law breakers since their first act upon our nation's soil is to enter illegally . . . law breakers should be prosecuted. If they were citizens and law breakers they certainly would be. No rewarding bad behavior . . .

I can't give anymore. Now is the time for all good legislators to come to the aid of their legal citizens for a change of pace.

Illegal means ILLEGAL so NO. I can't get financial assistance for my children who are AMERICAN!

Ray, go sing "Kumbaya" somewhere else. We are in an economic recession - 8.9% of citizens are out of work with no health care, loosing their homes and unable to put their own children through college. And you think illegal is beside the point? It is the only point! There shouldn't even be a debate. Too many legal citizens need our government's help. This is shameful and sickening.

Alert. If you live in or even near Maryland.... Maryland, a HUGE Democrat / Liberal State are talking RIGHT NOW about forcing Maryland Tax payers to PAY FOR COLLEGE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

The Democrat leader claims he didnt think it would cost anything. How stupid can this guy be ?

Here is the story below.

Its urgent that this gets pass on to FOX, CNN , Numbers, Grassfire, FAIR, Talk Radio and others in the fight on illegal immigration.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/2011/03/debate_over_instate_tuition_fo.html

Steve Hampton
www.protectourborder.net
protectourbordernow@yahoogroups.com

Hey Ray since you are so pro illegal immigrant way dont you pay for them sir?
Pony up sir.
Your drivel is so annoying-
Look deep in your hearts as Human Beings and if someone elses garden is not as plentiful as yours, go give them some seeds.nnoying-

Are you a speech writer for MOM?

This legislation is the proof that our "ELECTED OFFICIALS" will vote their concscience of the People who elected them. The "Liberal Dumbacrats" feel that they can vote for anything that will cost the TAXPAYERS, and the TAXPAYERS just need to get over it. If this Legisaltion doesn't open the eyes of the voters, then I don't know what will. Let's show these politicians, if they back this then we don't re-elect them!!! Let's take back our STATE and do what is right, and not POLITICALLY CORRECT!!!

The author left off an important piece off the last sentence: After two years of study, the student can apply to universities ALSO AT THE DISCOUNTED IN-STATE TUITION.

First, undocumented immigrants make less than 20 percent of the entire college population. In Maryland it may be higher, but for instance, in Kansas they only make up for less than 2% of the entire college student mass.
Second, people get your facts right. Undocumented students do not get financial aid that is paid up with your so called taxes, they pay everything out of pocket.
3rd, Undocumented immigrants do not get help from the government. For instance, medical care is paid once again, everything out of pocket.
4th, if there are government based clinics that offer services to minorities, well, these are offered by the government, so don't hate undocumented immigrants because they receive aid, is not like the are forcing the government to open up these few facilities for them.
5th. The few help offered to undocumented immigrants are offered by private affiliations that work for human rights. Volunteers and sponsors freely choose to help these facilities.
6th, In any case, granting in-state tuition to undocumented students, would only financially benefit the institution. With this economic recession, there need to be more money investments to our economy.
These is why the whole world hates "American people"... they see your hardened hearts and ignorance. Thank God you have all the resources necessary to live far far farrrr more decent that the majority of this world, but woe to those, because when time of real harshness approach, you will all be begging to flee this country at once.

First, undocumented immigrants make less than 20 percent of the entire college population. In Maryland it may be higher, but for instance, in Kansas they only make up for less than 2% of the entire college student mass.
Second, people get your facts right. Undocumented students do not get financial aid that is paid up with your so called taxes, they pay everything out of pocket.
3rd, Undocumented immigrants do not get help from the government. For instance, medical care is paid once again, everything out of pocket.
4th, if there are government based clinics that offer services to minorities, well, these are offered by the government, so don't hate undocumented immigrants because they receive aid, is not like the are forcing the government to open up these few facilities for them.
5th. The few help offered to undocumented immigrants are offered by private affiliations that work for human rights. Volunteers and sponsors freely choose to help these facilities.
6th, In any case, granting in-state tuition to undocumented students, would only financially benefit the institution. With this economic recession, there need to be more money investments to our economy.
These is why the whole world hates "American people"... they see your hardened hearts and ignorance. Thank God you have all the resources necessary to live far far farrrr more decent that the majority of this world, but woe to those, because when time of real harshness approach, you will all be begging to flee this country at once.

The State has lost its mind! CASA de MD runs the state of MD. They bused in 100's of illegal aiens for the testimony in February and they also bused them into Annapolis on Monday night for a "protest" They were allowed into our tax payer halls to testify for rights they don't have. In Maryland- illegal aliens (oh, I'm sorry- "New Americans") are treated far better than the tax paying citizen. These students should be glad that they got a taxpayer funded education through grade 12! Their parents do NOT pay taxes other than sales tax and they CANNOT WORK HERE LEGALLY! It appears that the General Assembly is on ACID.

Giving illegal aliens and their offspring in-state tuition is akin to giving armed robbers a state sponsored firearms course!

Our state legislators have lost their collective minds!!!!!

Ray, you need to remember that the Native Americans were the ones that helped us survive that first winter... leading to them losing their land and being 'all but wiped out' by us.

That is what happens when you aid and abet trespassers/INVADERS.

Isn't it time that we learned our lesson from the experiences of the Native Americans?

Most of you posting are a bunch of lazy non-patriots. No patriot would deny education to students who can help grow our economy. You don't care about America or Maryland, just yourself. That's the essence of being an America-hater.

Most of you posting are a bunch of lazy non-patriots. No patriot would deny education to students who can help grow our economy. You don't care about America or Maryland, just yourself. That's the essense of being an America-hater.

Illegals do not pay taxes unless they have a tax id. Only a documented visa can qualify for a tax id. For a person to work on and expired taxid means they have been here legally at one point and have had their status expire and they dont want to go home. Students who are the children of current visa holders are on valid visas and are not covered by this bill. They pay out of state rates. Their parents are here for better paying jobs and are making the efforts to remain in this country. If they lose their job, they would immediately be out of status and be here illegally until they can find a proper job to sponsor them. An employer who employs immigrants has to be aware of the valid status of their visa. The state universities require a valid visa for attendance. Who does this legislation apply to? Why is the general assembly debating the topic?

If they are illegal, they never should have come, but now that they are here, they should be removed by force of law.

Karina I do agree about the hypocrisy of Americans. When I graduated in 1992 some of my age cohort went straight to Prague to get better jobs- as though they were God-blessed to bump Czechs and Slovaks out of the way. Yeahhh right. In retrospect I am glad I stayed home with my retired parents in WV (great for retirement, lousy for college grads) and let those ugly Americans leave.

I pray I never need to leave this country to find work, even if the $14T national debt melts down the economy or we have a Nazi state after a nuclear bomb goes off in some city (maybe Washington where I work). Canadians deserve Canadian jobs more than I do, they've lived there all their lives.

Likewise, we in America have lived here all of ours and that counts for a great deal. As long as we are unable to employ a third of our people, why do we accept immigrants and temporary visa applicants? We need to seal the border and hang a "Not hiring/no trabajos" sign on it.

When did taking care of the people we have quit counting for something? And I do include the naturalized citizens too. Naturalization is just as much a promise of our government as is citizenship by birth.

But we can put a stop to birthright citizenship and require at least one parent be a citizen for future babies to be born citizens. We should. Now.

The world is already on the same page with what we should be doing.

1. Many countries officially or unofficially give priority consideration when hiring to their own nationals. When I sent my electronic resume to South Africa in 1995, they said they were hiring local.

2. If you try to get into some countries without papers, the reaction you'll get will be polite but firmly no (Europe) to upsetting (Iran, North Korea). So Karina, why does the world hate us more than it does, Iran? Are the Iranians ignorant and hard-hearted?

3. Citizenship is by parental descent in most countries. Very few countries practice birth on soil. Ireland was the most recent country to abolish it.

If the United States had a good oil disruption to deal with, there would be refugees into Canada..... and the Canadians wouldn't want them either.

The hypocrisy is that none of you have talked about the businesses that have been making millions off of immigrant labor, authorized and unauthorized. When illegal business people including Frank Purdue hiring immigrant labor, the illegal farmers hiring immigrant labor, the illegal restaurant owners hiring immigrant labor, the illegal construction companies hiring immigrant labor, etc., until all of them are arrested and prosecuted, I am not going to say that the child of a hard-working Marylander can't go to college because they don't have the right kind of papers.

Those who do just don't understand what America is about.

Karina and others, Get YOUR facts straight. Last year, Dumbocrats did in fact vote to give money to LaCasa. But, they would not help our community and we are CITIZENS...LEGAL.

So, YES, our tax dollars DO in fact go to pay for services for people who SHOULD NOT BE HERE or getting my taxpayer aid. Who do you think pays for the hospital bill for ANCHOR BABIES? YOU FOOL!!!!!!!

We have got to be more Proactive and less forgetful. VOTE out each and every DUMBOCRAT who votes for In State Tuition for those here Illegally. Sorry,
Or, allow me a reduction in my taxes, gas hikes, etc.

STOP BEING FOOLS FOR THE POLITICIANS while they CONTINUE to do whatever they desire. VOTE THE DUMBOCRATS OUT..AND, honestly, I hate The Repuklican party as well. But, at least they have this ONE issue right.

The key word in all of this is "ILLEGAL" I don't care how anyone wants to spin it. If you are an ILLEGAL then all discussion stops. It doesn't matter anything else. You are here ILLEGALLY otherwise you wouldn't be labeled an ILLEGAL.

Seems instead of getting facts straight as some suggest on here some should learn the definition of words. Such as ILLEGAL.

you people in maryland need a wakeup call. i suggest you visit mexifornia or mexi-zona. this is what happens with open borders and greed of americans wanting cheap labor. it is no longer safe to walk the streets of phoenix, kidnappings, drug smugglers, complete lawlessness at the hands of illegal invaders. trust me, it is an invasion.

Illegal is the operative word here. As a college student who transferred to a Maryland university, paid out of state tuition the first year, and then went through the difficult process of applying for residency I find it appalling that the state is about to just hand illegal immigrants in state tuition.

The government here needs to focus on its legal citizens.

I DON'T AGREE WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, BUT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IT. I WOULD TRY TO MAKE THE BEST LIFE FOR MY FAMILY. IF THAT MEANT GOING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY I WOULD. THE REASON I SUPPORT IN-STATE TUITION FOR "ILLEGALS" IS THAT UNLESS WE ARE SENDING THEM BACK WE NEED TO HAVE THEM BECOME PART OF OUR SOCIETY.DENYING THEM AN EDUCATION IS JUST CREATING ANOTHER UNDERCLASS IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WILL BECOME A CRIME NIGHTMARE. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHEN THEY CAME HERE. IT WAS ILLEGAL TO TEACH THEM FOR GENERATIONS. THEY TREATED AS SUBHUMAN IN ADDITION TO THAT. NOW LOOK WHAT YOU HAVE? WE CANNOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE. THE MORE EDUCATED YOUR SOCIETY, THE MORE CIVILIZED. WE HAVE TO STOP THIS "ME,ME,ME" NONSENSE AND THINK ABOUT THE ENTIRE PICTURE. AND ALL THIS " ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL" TALK IS CRAP. REMEMBER THAT THE NEXT TIME YOU DRIVE OVER 65 MPH OR JAYWALK. WE CAN CALL ANYTHING ILLEGAL, THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT PRUDENT OR MORAL.

I do not believe in this act for the simple reason that even if they get a higher education are not allow to work. And if they become with a career that need licensing, how would they get it. They are not even allow to have a driver license. They are just going to overbook the classes, where a US citizen may need the space. It common sense.

Why not provide assistance through community colleges to help illegal immigrants obtain their citizenship? Once they have obtained citizenship or at the very least going through the process to obtain it, then offer instate tuition, for those who have established residency.

I appreciate the value of work performed by illegal workers, but - NO. We have got to draw the line.

U. S. citizens and legal immigrants are the only people who should benefit from local, state and federal tax dollars and benefits.

THE LEFTIST DREAM OF AN OPEN BORDER SOCIETY, DEMOCRATS WAITING FOR MORE VOTES AND REPUBLICANS FOR MORE CHEAP LABOR TO EXPLOIT AND SUBSIDIZE THEIR ENORMOUS PROFITS.

It’s sad that our schools are crammed to the limit with children of illegal aliens. They come here--and never paid a single penny into the education system. States are burdened by unfunded mandates including schooling for illegal children, which when analyzed billions of dollars paid out of American people's empty pockets. State colleges will be demanding more money from taxpayers, to subsidize the wishes of bleeding hearts, open border brain dead leftist and socialist insanity. California is in education mess and must look to parents to subsidize pens, paper and textbooks owing to the States descent into a disastrous financial pit. Governor Jerry Brown is pushing for a Statewide Dream Act will further erode the California education. This will mean even more State hands outs and higher taxes for property owners.

Each State now has accumulated so much debt from the occupation of people from across our national border and economic tourists with no return airline tickets. England was so frustrated with economic health care tourist, that they are slamming the door on people turning up from impoverished regions of the world, to slap taxpayers with the bill. Same with our nation that the courts have mandated we must give health care, education and even low income housing to illegal alien families. The United States of America that has become the free health care center for central and Latin America, Eastern Europe and other poor areas of the world, who is consuming vast amounts of services meant for the legal populace.

The Tea Party is discussing now with its tens of millions of members, to possibly joining up with reputable pro-sovereignty organizations that are ready to unseat corrupt politicians, who have flip-flopped over immigration laws in Utah and Arizona and States further afield. There is also talk of communicating the word to the membership of all organizations--to boycott--the corporate instigators that forwarded a veiled threat in a letter to the Republican Arizona Senate. At the head of the table was the US Chamber of Commerce that have been fully involved in crippling E-Verify to a voluntary basis amongst other laws, just like that old nut Senator Reid in Nevada.

THE WORD IS OUT THAT UTAH, IS WELCOMING ALL THE ECONOMIC REFUGEES FROM ARIZONA

Word of mouth will resonate across all frontiers, and internally throughout America and hundreds of thousands of economic illegal aliens will be arriving in lenient States. If illegal aliens think they can get drivers licenses in Washington State, New Mexico they will be pouring in from everywhere. They will pillage your welfare safety-net for all your impoverished citizens and legal residents, just as they have in the Sanctuary State of California and Nevada. Unions are losing memberships have been turning to the recruitment of foreign nationals that are now crowding the SEIU and other service Trade Unions. Trumka is just another Leftist with his trade union bullies, hoping to undermine the "Rule of Law" so that he can keep his power. When it comes to tourism suffering because of clamp downs on illegal alien workers, this fits only into the giant profits of travel and tourist companies. Entertainment industries should not be exempt from using E-Verify, as once the cheap labor bond is broken, they will have no choice but to hire legitimate workers, that will mean higher wages and benefits. Using foreign labor instead of Americas true labor force, is but one avenue to reduce the 10 million legit people who need jobs.

Utah doesn't have any notion of what is going to happen to them, once the illegal aliens start whispering to each other? The flood will turn into a deluge and all those under threat in Arizona and in other States building policing laws will become persona non grata. They will materialize in the hundreds of thousands in Salt Lake City, Ogden and start lining up for the food Stamps, Medicaid and anything else they can get for free. Their kids will suffocate the school system and they will have no choice but to hire more bilingual teachers. These people are well taught on how to wring the most welfare programs from the system, including free breakfasts and lunches for their children. They are well aware as in California the more babies they conjure up, they can receive $600 dollars of your money, for each child in their care. One only has to read on the Internet that there is a fraudulent game going on with child tax credits that is also costing hundreds of millions in your dollars.

The hospitals in Utah will be crammed with the newly sick and arrive in the emergency room with 4 or five children and then Utah's old folks, will have to wait 4 hours or more for treatment as the numbers grow. In one hospital in Texas there are a hundred illegal aliens on dialysis machines, costing taxpayers $100.000 dollars annually for each patient. Explore the Pdf file "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine." http://tinyurl.com/o6r27 Remember this is not about honest, law abiding legalized people who are of many religions, creeds or races. This is about illegal immigration and the consequences now and in the immediate future. Anybody who really believes the US government, or the leftist newspapers or groups with special incentives that there is--ONLY--11 million unauthorized persons here, must have an insanity claim.

Just as in the Sanctuary State of California being overwhelmed with welfare classes, so will Utah, Michigan, Indiana, Florida, Maryland, Wisconsin and will smother other States with their demands. Neighborhoods will become the scene of rusty, derelict cars and the business owners will exploit them and enjoy obscene profits. Oh! But we must not forget the growing prominence of DUI (Drunk While in charge of a motor vehicle) Hit and runs will begin to rocket and more drug peddlers will move in, to sell their toxic wares to young children. Soon--more prisons will have to be constructed to incarcerate the murderers, kidnappers, home invasion crime, female and children assaults and other criminal enterprises, not forgetting murdering terrorists. Just like California, Nevada and other refuge States, your debt will be accelerating because you will be forking out large sums of money like never before, to support Utah's own little invasion. GOD HELP UTAH!! If this law for Guest Workers is found constitutional these illegal persons with their extended families will suddenly appear

To repeat this statistic--that for every 1 dollar spent by illegal immigrants, they receive 3 to 4 dollars in service and public entitlements. According to (FAIR) one hundred and thirteen billion went out the door in federal entitlements, for education, health care and incarcerations; these dollar numbers are not what States payout. Each State has its own cross to bear, with no aid from the US government. CONTACT THE ARIZONA OR LOCAL TEA PARTY TO JOIN AND ERADICATE THIS TRAVESTY PLAYED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

America isn't a melting pot anymore, it’s a powder keg.