About time the climate change sceptics take note! From what I hear we have less than five years to change things!

Scientists and Engineers for America has a lot of information on climate change including recent research and innovation on the subject, as well as where representatives stand on the subject. All of this info can be found at sharp.sefora.org

How could any sane person say the earth is warming based on the following -
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SmoothedMonthlyCO2vsTemps.jpg

There are several comments that I would like to make about "Global
Warming" and "Global Climate Change".

FIRST -- is that this is NOT a new effect. It has occurred five times
during the past 400,000 years! The basic cause is Methane (CH4) and
NOT Carbon Dioxide (CO2). The present global warming cycle began
about the time man was crossing the frozen land bridge from Siberia to
North America.

We need to understand the sources of Methane that are actually the
basic cause of our global warming. Anything that has grown, from yard
clippings to a decaying body, produces methane as it decomposes.
Methane gas from permafrost is a decay product. Methane gas from the
deep ocean (methane hydrate) is totally different.

Methane gas from oil wells is yet a very different composition. These
must all be recognized as such and understood as to their manner of
existence, production, and/or release.

Deep Sea Methane appears to be the waste product of a bacteriological
process, and therefore, is therefore a renewable resource! ( See
Reference 2) It is a relative clean product of our environment. It
has recently been produced in continuous commercial quantities by
American & Japanese scientists in Canada in 2008. It is this Methane
gas that has been bubbling up, for eons, from the continental shelfs
around the world that is the real culprit and basic cause of our
present situation.

Oil well Methane gas is a very dirty gas mixture — it is methane with
huge amounts of sulfur and other noxious gases mixed with it. The
Methane often mentioned in the media as "Bubbling up from Undersea
Permafrost" is a decay product. It is NOT from a Hydrate!

NEXT -- Drastic Global Climate Change has taken place at least FIVE
different times during the last 400,000 years. Our present cycle is
the only one during which man has been a factor! (Ref. 1) Methane
gas which bubbles up continuously from the deep ocean sources (which
in turn disassociates into CO2) is the true source of the "Greenhouse
Gas" that has operated in the previous five interglacial cycles — all
of which have been extinction cycles! As will this one!

These five previous cycles are NOT man made effects, nor is the
present cycle, and it IS TOO LATE to change our present cycle, We can
only learn to adapt! We cannot STOP the process although we might slow
it down for a few years, which in geological time is nothing.

REFERENCES

There are several prime references associated with the material that I
have covered, if ever so briefly.

(1) EARTH's CHANGING CLIMATE. Lecture Series by Dr. Richard
Wolfson, the Benjamin F. Wissler Professor of Physics at Middlebury
College. This is a six hour lecture series (12 segments of 30 minutes
each) on two DVDs produced by The Teaching Company of Chantilly VA
20151-1232.
http://www.TEACH12.com
This series covers in-depth detail of the science and methodology of
climate change. It is not an advocacy program. Interestingly, Dr.
Wolfson does not even mention Methane-Clatherate in this lecture
series — knowledge on that subject is almost too new to have been
included. It was first discovered on a moon of Venus by NASA about
1985. At the time we did not even know that it existed on Earth!

(2) FIRE IN THE ICE. Quarterly Journal , U.S.Department of Energy,
Office of Fossil Energy, National Energy Technology Laboratory. Also
known as Methane Hydrate Newsletter. Recommended reading is all
issues to current issue from about 2000 forward. This is the best of
several technical journals devoted to the science of Methane
Clatherates.
http://www.netl.doe.gov/about/index.html

(3) HIGH TIDE by Mark Lynas. Picador, 175 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY.
10010. ISBN 0-312-30365-3. This well written book clarifies the
problems of Global Warming "… The American People have been subjected
to one of the most pervasive misinformation campaigns ever undertaken
…"
http://www.picadorusa.com

(4) WITH SPEED AND VIOLENCE [Why Scientists Fear Tipping Points in
Climate Change] by Fred Pearce. Beacon Press; 25 Beacon Street;
Boston, MA 02108. © 2007. "We are on the precipice of climate system
tipping points beyond which there is no redemption"
http://www.beacon.org

JCSpilman, P.E. Huntsville, AL
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"Few seem to realise that the present IPCC models predict almost unanimously that by 2040 the average summer in Europe will be as hot as the summer of 2003 when over 30,000 died from heat. By then we may cool ourselves with air conditioning and learn to live in a climate no worse than that of Baghdad now. But without extensive irrigation the plants will die and both farming and natural ecosystems will be replaced by scrub and desert. What will there be to eat? The same dire changes will affect the rest of the world and I can envisage Americans migrating into Canada and the Chinese into Siberia but there may be little food for any of them." --Dr James Lovelock's lecture to the Royal Society, 29 Oct. '07

The alternative to geoengineering is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity.

Reply to Brad - IPCC forecasts are unanimously bogus.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6959/3226419409/

The earth’s atmosphere is comprised of :
79 % nitrogen
20% oxygen
.03% carbon dioxide
And 1% water vapor and other gasses.
Take two pieces of glass.
Evacuate the space between them.
Fill the space with Air representing the values shown above.
Provide a calibrated uv heat source.
Use a calibrated thermal sensor as a target on the other side of the glass.
Even if you increase the amount of C02 by 100% of the earth’s level, you will not see a significant difference in the thermal transfer.
Thus:
YOUR MYTH HAS BEEN BUSTED!
And now they are saying cow farts are a major factor
So they want to regulate cattle.
A nation that can not feed it’s self can be defeated easily. (politically or otherwise)
That’s why they are now attacking our food.

Brad, satellite temerature shows that 2008 was the same global temperature as 1979 so there has been no warming for 29 years. The IPCC projections did not project that showing that they are not worth the ink it cost to print them.
The heat wave of 2003 was not an unusual event for Europe. In fact it was warmer in 2006. However no one died that time because the French had learned their lesson. Leaving elderly people alone with no one to watch them and ensure that they are hydrated is not a good idea. Half of the people who died were in hospital and nursing homes. That should show the level of care they were receiving. The few who managed to get to a private clinic did not die.
Speaking of deaths, there are 1.5 Million excess cold related deaths in Europe each year. That is in excess of what is expected. The UK's cap and trade has increased that by 7% last year. They are freezing their elderly because they cannot afford to heat their homes.

I can't believe so many people are still fooled by the global-warming hoax.

Global Cooling is real. After the Soviet Union collapsed the number of weather reporting stations dropped by over 50%. Oops, we lost Siberia, and the 'global average temperatures' showed an erroneous warming trend thanks to the lost Siberian stations reporting.

The truth is record cold temps, and record snowfall all over the world. This trend has increased for several years.

We are currently enjoying the very end of a warm interval (interglaciation) between ice ages. Our interglaciation is called the Holocene. The last interglacial (before the last ice age) was called the Eemian. The Eemian Interglacial was way hoter than today and C02 was skyrocketing as well. Modern Man was not here yet during the Eemian but if we were some Al Gore type would have been blowing hot air and blaming 'human activity.'

12,000 years ago Canada, the UK, and 1/2 of the USA was covered by ice several kilometers thick. The natural warming of the Holocene melted most of the ice away.... ....a good thing.
The bad news is that interglaciations only last 12,000 years.

2 things prove that we are heading into another long period of global cooling.

1. Nasa's press release titled 'Solar wind loses power - hit's 50 year`low' shows that the solar output is suddenly dropping and it is already '13% cooler'

2. Al Gore said this would be 'the year the Arcric Ice Cap melts', but the cap has re-frozen and it is very close to the highest level since record keeping bagan.

Peace