I agree with most of the statements. If God says that He wants all of us to know Him, how can we as a people succeed in the best way if the government doesnt accept God? The constitution doesnt say that church and state have to be seperated, just that congress cant pass laws that support religion etc. In the true Christian sense, if everyone is a Christian who supports their brothers and sisters, we dont need a government. Also we get blessed if our nation supports God. As we see more and more Christians being elected to run things, our country will gain as a result, for example our economy will do better. God doesnt want His people to be in debt. We can start by making an effort to pay off ours.

Clay have you considered that Buck didn't specify any religion including Christianity? That means not separating any religion. The reality is everyone is not a Christian and they have rights too, and those rights must be protected. That is why government is needed and why it needs to be separated.

A Christian should view the separation of church and state to be a good thing. Those who wish to combine them usually do so thinking that Christianity is the only religion that will be state-sanctioned. The opposite is true. Once the state aligns itself with religion, the floodgates will be opened for any and all religions to take their place in government.

The reason why we have seperation of church and state is too protect people from Religous Nut jobs like clay who think that god is only looking out for one part of the world and ignoring the rest and having religious people in office has not made this country any better then it is (see G.W.Bush Jr 2000 to 2008) So the whole idea of seperation of church and state is greatly needed.

We can only hope that, after Tuesday, the crazies will crawl back under the rocks from whence they came. Failing that, the Nation is in for a period of grave danger. I hope we survive.

Anytime the nation has more true Christians in office, such as after Tuesday, the nation does better. It is hard to recognize with the world going down in general the way it is, heading for the tribulation. The crazy things that continue to happen overshadow what we do, and of course they involve us in most cases. We send help to Haiti, to Pakistan, etc. Christ will be back to end it, believe me. Just be sure to be ready to go with Him when He arrives.

Clay - YOU ARE AN IDIOT! and a perfect example of the danger that delusionalism represents when it is accepted even in the smallest way.

"Anytime the nation has more true Christians in office, such as after Tuesday, the nation does better."

You mean like Martin and Babs I presume, embracing the fullness of truth through Roman Catholicism.

Whoever Martin and Babs are or whatever it is, if they are true Christians following what God wants them to do, then we benefit. If they arent, then we dont. If they are Catholic then satan more than likely has too much of an influence. Thanks.

Martin O'Malley and Barbara Mikulski, your immense clayfulness, that's who Martin and Babs are.

And yes, they are "true Christians following what God wants them to do," which is to defeat your friends at the polls.

Clay seems to have severe mental incapabilities that may mean that picking on him for the stupid things he posts here, could be construed as being cruel and heartless, but what else can one do, he won't shut up.

I know one thing. Anytime someone like these people are pro abortion and pro homosexual they arent listening in church. That is no where near a true Christian following what God wants them to do, Catholic or otherwise. In fact I am sure there are many in the Catholic church who are repulsed at the thought of these two having these views. I could easily say that it is just another sign that this church is too liberal in many ways, but I do know that there are many in this church who feel strongly about both issues, and there is no way that God wants politicians running things who are disobedient to His word. It doesnt take a lot of intelligence to figure that out. It may require a little heart though. Thanks.

Clay - Stupidity is the enemy of freedom, which inexorably makes you the enemy of freedom. Your stinking, vain, vindictive, ego-maniacal god, is a figment of your less than developed imagination, and it is a figment that I will fight to my death ( or to the death of those who would impose it on us all) , rather than submit to it, or the idiocy you represent.

I think you are being too hard on Clay. He actually does more to turn people away from Christianity that you and your atheistic ramblings could ever hope to do.

One thing we dont want to do is to spend time arguing with the devil. Many here do.

I guess God hears all progressive Democratic prayers Clay. He has kept Martin O'Malley and Barbara Mikulski in power because they are "true Christians following what God wants them to do."

Regardless of why they are in office, they do not follow what God wants them to do, and neither do many voters. Barbara Mikulski and her girlfriend attended a ceremony at a Catholic church in East Baltimore. When Barbara Mikulski was introduced, a man stood up in the rear and said "baby killer" and sat down. It seems like there are more people besides fundamantalists who feel the way I do about them. Thanks.

All politicians have enemies Clay. The most notable example would be Jesus Christ. Your party lost. Go lick your wounds.

Clay how are such comments following what God wants? Did Christ say love everyone including your enemies? Insulting Mikulski helps the pro-life movement in what way exactly? All it does is make them look like the extremist pro-abortion groups claim.

I never said that I hated anyone and I pray for our leaders all the time. However, I am not going to be afraid to say what is right. If they shouldnt support abortion, then they shouldnt support it. Thanks.

I never said you did say such a thing. How is insulting someone being Christian? You avoided answering that one. There is nothing wrong with saying what you think is right. However, that doesn't requiring insulting people or supporting those who conduct themselves in a rude manner.

If I insulted someone I did it unintentionally for their own good. You cant tell the truth without insulting people. They were so insulted at what Christ did to make their religious practices look bad that they had Him hung on a cross. Thanks.

Yes, Clay, you can tell the truth without insulting people. Civilized people do it all the time.

Stop comparing yourself to Christ Clay. And insulting someone “for their own good” is the work of Satan. He hands out anti-Catholic tracts also.

If satan wants people to get drunk in church, you cant tell that to people who drink there without insulting them. And it is certainly for their own good.

Catholics have a term for other Catholics who pick and choose what parts of the faith they are willing to accept as though they were going through a cafeteria line. We call them “Cafeteria Catholics.” You do the same thing with the bible. You pick the parts you agree with and toss the parts you don't like. Your ignorance is compounded by your arrogance. Also you lie.

You never saw anyone getting drunk in a church. You saw people drinking beer while eating in a hall. The only way you would know if they were getting drunk would be to know how much they weigh, how many ounces of beer the had consumed, over what period of time, and approximately how much food they had consumed. Then you would have to do the math for each consumer of beer. We both know you didn't do that Clay. You are merely judging your neighbor based on a casual observation.

Then you claim it is appropriate to insult people based on what you don't know. For all you know you neighbor might be diabetic and suffering from hypoglycemia, such people appear to be drunk. Rather than help to save your neighbors life your response is to “insult him for his own good.”

But hey, that's how you roll.

Drunkenness is condemned in the bible when it causes laziness and poverty. But alcohol is also recommended in the bible. It is recommended for hospice (those ready to perish) for those who suffer from depression (heavy hearts) and also just to make people happy (to gladden our hearts).

Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. (Proverbs 31:6-7)

“You raise grass for the cattle and plants for our beasts of burden. You bring bread from the earth,and wine to gladden our hearts....” (Psalm 104:14-15)

You ignore those passages because, again, it's all about you, it was never about God, or the Bible, or the Truth.

Amazing Clay--you don't think we should be sending help to Haiti and you assert that Christ will be back to end it? That sounds like utter lunacy to me Clay. I thought charity is a Christian virtue and the people of Haiti, they are suffering for no fault of their own--first an earthquake, then camps, then cholera and now a fierce rainstorm. If not America, who should help them? Nobody?
R Anon

I dont remember saying that we shouldnt be sending help to Haiti. If I did I may have said that the churches should be sending the help and they could if everyone tithed. Your disobedience doesnt get ok'd by God when Christians make mistakes. God bless.

Clay who is getting drunk in church? You are implying things which are not true that is what is insulting people. Telling someone they might be doing something wron isn't an insult. Making broad accusations about being drunk in church is insulting and it is not helping or for anyone except Satan's good.

Read Dana's post carefully Clay because it is a valid commentary on your actions. Maybe you should spend more time removing the logs from your eye and less time trying to remove what you think are splinters in other peoples.