I think that this guy ought to go after "South Park" for the disrespect they showed by hiding Allah in a bear costume, but only after they cough up this Allah creature and prove that its nature is exactly as they state it to be. If they cannot come up with it, then all tax exempt property should lose that status and start paying tax on their properties. Of course, this also applies to all the other religions, with only the one (there can be no more, right?) that is the true church and can prove it, retaining their tax exemptions.

Robert--watch the religionists jump down your throat for this! They will say that they do so much charitable work--how shall I put it--good works--that the taxpayers owe them a free ride across the landscape that is America. Of course they will carp that you are ignorant for wanting them to cough up this god they so ardently admire and fervently pin upon their lapels for everyone to see. If they cannot prove that this god does exist can you prove that he does not is what they will say! And finally one or two may revel--by this I mean dear Abstenonymous of course (has he pinned you down as yet with some of his inanities? He has now zeroed in on KWOLF what ever--an atheist with hutzpah--but don't worry he'll be at your gullet--he has a predilection for you) anyway Abstenonymous will revel he can once more lecture on mode, manners and ecclesiastical mariachi to you from his god appointed throne. When it comes to Catholicism the man (or woman) sees nothing bad--now that is clear proof of mental instability or outright insanity.
R Anon

Nobody pays any attention to him anymore R-anon.

R Anon, or he will adopt Clay's tactic of sticking his head in the sand and pretending that that will silence people who object to the $#!+ they are shoveling, despite the stench it exudes. Ignoring us will not silence us the way killing us once did, and that is a reality they must face.

Bobbie - Maybe you could explain how proving God to your satisfaction and tax exempt status are connected. I've study that area of law and I must have missed the regulations or sections that address that issue.

I'm fine with the idea of church's paying taxes as long as it is applied to all tax exempt entities and not just the ones you hate. In the end all you accomplish is taking resources from the poor. if you are ok with that as opposed to reducing bloated governemnt spending and increase the tax on those who can afford it so be it.

Moniker Phobic Anonymous - My objection to ANY tax breaks for religious organizations (except for that one and only one that can prove it is the true representative of this never proven god entity), is that the rest of us have to make up the difference through the coercive use of the Internal Revenue Service. The forced subsidization of religion by this bastardized use of the tax code, is a clear violation of the Separation Principle of the Establishment Clause of The Constitution of The United States of America.

You could eliminate the tax exempt status today Robert and the churches would still pay no taxes. They would only have to move retained earnings into the expenses of their usual activities so that income and expenses would be a wash. No profit, no taxes.

Even you should be able to understand those simple accounting principles. You make our resident fundamentalist sound like a rocket scientist.

Constitutional Law Challenged Bobbie - Since non-profits don't usually generate profit what exactly would the IRS be taxing? The only real money would be property taxes (which are state not federal taxes) unless you want to start hitting organizations like Catholic Charities, United Way and even the Red Cross with gift taxes for giving out funds.

One other point of clarification you are subsidizing nothing. Your own taxes would not change non-profits are taxed. You'd have to tax them all not just religious ones because otherwise the state would be violating establishment clause that atheist like you tout so much. Not taxing them violates nothing. That’s a popular atheist misapplication of the constitution.

What you want is coercive use of the Internal Revenue Service to do what all your ranting and raving can't eliminate religion simply because you don't believe. Spin it however you like it still ends up the same. You misapplying the constitution to promote your own crusade against religion.

Anonymous - Income Taxes are on Income not retained earnings. The only exception is tightly controlled companies that can get hit with accumulated earnings penalties I believe. Other than that retain earnings play not part in income tax calculations. Retainied earnings is a balance sheet equity account not an income account.

Thanks Anonymous, I stand corrected. You made the point much better than me.

Moniker Phobic Anonymous - Start with taxing the income of religion and then make them pay property taxes on all (and it is substantial and some of the most desirable land in most communities) church holdings. Until they can prove they are not a con, they should have to pay the same taxes the rest of us are liable for, as well as show they can deliver on the products they sell here for later delivery in the supposed afterlife. Failure to provide proof of delivery means they are operating a fraud and they should get the same respect we give, under law, to any ponzi scheme.

That would be a violation of the separation of Church and State clauses Robert. If you want to work towards a constitutional amendment to eliminate it this blog is likely not the best place to start.

Dana - There is no need for a constitutional amendment, because the matter just needs enforcement of the current document as I stated in a previous post where the taxing of the rest of us at a higher rate to make up that amount religion does not pay. "The forced subsidization of religion by this bastardized use of the tax code, is a clear violation of the Separation Principle of the Establishment Clause of The Constitution of The United States of America. " and should be ended to come into conformity with the current document. The only religion that should receive extraordinary consideration is the one (and only one) that comes up with proof their god exists and that its nature is exactly as they state. I won't hold my breath waiting for that , but in the meantime, religion should be paying their fair share.

Tax exemption for Churches is established in every state of the union and has been repeatedly supported by the Supreme Court. The establishment clause prevents government interference in religion and taxation would clearly be interference. Proof that God exists has no bearing on the matter except in your own mind.

Yes, it would take a constitutional amendment to tax churches. The current laws as well as the tax codes are in conformity with the constitution. It is settled law both in terms of the Constitution and in terms of case law. You would do better to try to overturn the right to bear arms or freedom of the press. While equally un-American, at least you would have supporters.

Bobbie the entities are called nonprofit for a reason (lack of profit) which would make taxing income rather difficult. Singling out only those nonprofits you don't like ranks you with Clay trying to establish his Christian America. No one is getting taxed at a higher rate and taxing all nonprofits will not result in anyone paying less. To say anything different is a popular atheist lie.

Dana don’t confuse Bobbie with facts. It gets in the way of his bigotry.

Dana - You won't be able to convince Robert on this. No matter what factual evidence you give he won't budge from his deluded concept on the subject of taxing religion. In some regards he almost seems like the anti-Clay.

What those who would have the churches taxed must realize is doing so would unleash them as corporate lobbyists.

After the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, this would be a very scary prospect.