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June 3, 2010

Conservatives trying to stop Comedy Central series

A coalition of religious and conservative leaders is trying to stop a proposed Comedy Central cartoon that puts Jesus Christ in a modern-day context — before it even gets started, the Associated Press reports.

The newly formed Citizens Against Religious Bigotry said Thursday that it believes the "JC" series would be offensive. They accuse Comedy Central of a double standard in mocking Christian figures and beliefs while recently refusing to let "South Park" depict the Prophet Muhammad for fear of offending Muslims.

"You don't have to be a Christian to be offended by this," said Brent Bozell, head of the watchdog Media Research Center.

Comedy Central said last month that "JC" is one of two dozen series it has in development. The concept is to depict Christ as a "regular guy" who moves to New York to "escape his father's enormous shadow."

Network spokesman Tony Fox noted that "JC" is nothing more than an idea now, without even a completed script. In television, only a minority of projects in development ever make it on the air.

Fox said the groups should save their energy for when a decision is made about whether the series will ever be completed.

Aside from Bozell's group, the coalition also includes the Catholic League, the Parents Television Council and talk show host Michael Medved. They said the coalition had written to 250 Comedy Central advertisers to alert them to the show and already had 93,000 petition signals against it.

Comedy Central was the target of an Internet threat this spring from a Muslim group for a "South Park" episode that supposedly showed Muhammad in a bear costume. Like other media organizations, it resists showing a depiction of Muhammad because many Muslims consider a physical description of the prophet to be blasphemous.

Such depictions of Muhammad in other media have resulted in death threats by fundamentalist Muslims against the purveyors.

"Does that indicate that Christians then are punished because they aren't crazy?" Medved asked, "that they get punished because their religion does not encourage threats of violence?"

Fox would not discuss Comedy Central's response to threats of violence. The network's programs haven't avoided the issue of some of the rabid forms of Islamic behavior, with two "South Park" episodes addressing it this spring after the show's creators were annoyed by the network's efforts to alter their work.

The protesters said they hadn't encouraged any advertisers to boycott the network yet, saying they hoped making the issue public would encourage Comedy Central to leave the idea on a shelf.

"I don't think they're going to have the guts to go ahead and do this," said Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League.

Posted by Matthew Hay Brown at 6:16 PM | | Comments (24)
        

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This group sound as ridiculouse as the Musslems(when mohamad was drawn)!
Extreeminst are extreemest no matter what group!
Let's think about this a little--If we were made in Gods image& Jesus is Gods son--Then both God & jesus would have a sense of humor!
Wouldn't you think?
Cuckhold Don

Do you watch these shows Don?

As a young proud Catholic, I try very hard to bring the faith into the current language of the Catholic youth who love our Holy Father so much. Have you seen the throngs of young people who attend his Masses? The liberals are just mad because in fact the Holy Father is quite hip. How else would he attract all those young people? So, my very conservative opinion is that we should take a wait- and -see attitude towards these cartoons. In fact I still love cartoons. And I will let you all in on a little secret. I have been trying develop a cartoon about Pope Benedict. But see, it is important to have it not be about the Pope only because that will probably bore kids. I know PR, that is what I do for the Principles Project, and young people are really not that interested in old people, even a Pope. What they like is all the stuff that goes along with Church like the vestments and candles and celebrations. So my idea is that we would play off an already successful cartoon. The idea I am trying to pitch to the Cartoon Network is that we show Sponge Bob as a little more grown-up. And now he is a Catholic Seminarian and proudly Catholic. I think Sponge Bob Fiddle Back would be a great title. He has been sent to Rome to the North American College and so he gets to interact with the Pope and Liturgies etc.
See we could have fun shows about how Sponge Bob Fiddle Back is meeting with the Holy Father to develop ways to cathechise the underwater population at Bikini Bottom. Do you see now why I feature photos of the Pope on my blog all the time, because he can be cool! Imagine an episode where Sponge Bob, Pope Benedict and Patrick
open a traditional rite parish in Bikini Bottom, and that mean squid-wort comes with lots of liberal objections like the aging hippie he clearly is. It would be great! I am going to work on this.

If any other proud Catholics and friends of the American Papussed help me with this I will send you a free t-shirt with the picture of that Cardinal doing a cool hand gesture like Vanilla Ice.

Thanks, and also thanks to Louis, we are not that far apart. The only ones I really hate are Catholycs!


Tom, The American Papussed, check out my blog on Catholic Hot e Action.

The American Papussed - Fortunately there are copyright laws that you would violate if you attempted to expropriate the Sponge Bob character for use in conning children to accept the absurdities of Catholicism. The attempt to use cartoon characters, is little more than the same technique using advertising tricks to get children to demand sugar loaded, artificially colored crap cereal, and every bit as ethical.

If parents follow Christ and teach their kids appropriately then it wouldnt matter about the show because they wouldnt watch it. It is just another example of satan using the media to influence people the way he wants them influenced. What many dont realize is that most shows handle things without using God to help them. That itself is a tremendous influence on people, even if it is family oriented. Shows like Rosanne make it even worse.

Groovy idea Tom!

I volunteer to do the Latin subtitles. It is never too early to start teaching children the Universal Language. I wouldn't worry about trademark issues. I'm sure a licensing deal can be worked out between Nickelodeon and the Holy See. The marketing potential is fantastic. June is the perfect month to kick this off Tom. I was planning to introduce the Rainbow Rosary this month and SpongeBob will be a natural to introduce it.

This is great! Let me respond first to Augustine, then to Robert.

Augustine,

I love your name, that is the kind of Catholic humor I love! I love Chesterton, and he was sort of built like a Hippo. Anyways, I am going to send you a t-shirt, your ideas are so good. I think the network will be happy to have a spin-off of their show. Just think of the possibilities: A Monstrance made of a Starfish for a scene with Sponge Bob and Patrick doing Perpetual Adoration. Also we could have Patrick become a member of the Knights of Columbus and fight anti-Catholic bigotry when Mr. Crab tries to put on a crabby-patty cook-out to compete with the K of C's fish fry. I am impressed that you are doing the Rainbow Rosary. Rainbow's are beautiful and a gift to Noah in the Scriptures, and therefore we should take it back from the homosexualists. Just because you like colors does not make you gay! And that is what is good about the Sponge Bob Fiddle back idea. Some people think that Sponge Bob is gay, just because he talks the way he does and is thin and has long eye lashes. Well the point is if you visit seminaries a lot of the guys are like that and we know they are not gay. Did you see the great article in the New York Times on May 30? I thought it was great that the priest from the seminary in Queens said proudly , "There are no gay men in this seminary" or something like that. There may be a lot of guys who act like Sponge Bob Fiddle Back there, but they are not gay! What a relief the church is making progress.

Now to Robert,

As I have said before, I really have no problem with atheists. At least they believe something. They believe that they don't believe in God. But those awful liberal Catholics , the Catholycs, they go to Church all the time, and talk about loving one another, but they do not support the Magesterium. I tell you right now. Those Catholycs are more likely to go to hell than the atheists. Because they are receiving Christ unworthily in the Sacrament. That is why I went to theology school with the Dominicans who used to run the Inquisition, so I can understand the fine point of this. Also, Robert, do you notice how ecumenical and open real Catholics really are? I hope so.

To, The American Papussed, check out the blog at Catholic Vote Attraction.

The American Papussed - Oh great, I'm so glad to hear that you have such warm feelings for Atheists, but not so warm feelings about people of your own faith who are not as fanatical as you. As a programed seminarian of the Inquisitional Dominicans, I can expect nothing but delusional rubbish coming from your contributions to this forum. You have already been won over to the dark side and are unlikely to ever achieve the rational state. You are just a marginally more educated form of the protestant idiot who infects this forum, named Clay. The only way you can be taken seriously, is if you cough up this god creature of yours and prove that its nature is exactly as your soaked in the blood of innocents church claims it to be.

The nature of God is a mystery that you will discover during the course of your personal Dark Night of the Soul. It is not for the Papussed to cough up, dear friend. But rather for you to discover when you have vomited up the poison of your disbelief. Your life little atheist is an empty page that God will want to write on. For the Church you are to be considered as chaste as paper, as pure as snow, and as innocent as a newborn lamb.

Blood of innocents! You say?

Nonsense. That is only cocktail sauce dripping from the remains of heretics and blasphemers.

Bon appétit.

I love this blog--Robert, can't you see not one of these guys can be taken seriously--they are trolls on these blogs--to them each and every blogger here is red meat--the Papusedd is the finest of them --he drips with a sense of humor so delicious as to put us all to shame. He is here to bait us--don't fall for it Robert--the man is probably gay--a baiter of the religious and probably a Catholic--never a seminarian not even in his previous birth--he is the best imitation yet of a religious nut-- you could easily mistake him for a real one.
Ravensfan Anon

Ravensfan Anon, I agree with you. I find everything the American Papussed has written here to be entertaining as well as being a new lens through which to view the matters at hand.

Wondering if he's from Baltimore, as only someone familiar with Baltimore could understand just how brilliant a name Augustine from the Hippo really is.

Are you twelve years old R-Anon?

Declaring that someone you don't like "is probably gay" falls into the rhetorical skills of that age group.

I want to comment on Ravenfan Anon's observations. The best I can do is point to the continued presence of Bill Donahue of the Catholic League on media outlets. It is true that he is less present, because the media seems to have come to the conclusion that the man does not operate in good faith. But my point is, he is still present, which is amazing. Last nights he was on the Raymond Arroyo show which is basically like having the Imprimatur of the Church, or at least a Nihil Obstat. And what did Donahue talk about? Just the usual paranoid harangue which characterizes Catholic commentary nowadays. This, dear friends, is the standard that we are having to deal with with the Church. And yes, Ravensfan Anon, Gay men have a wicked sense of humor.

But I will not use humor for the last comment. I caught a moment of a special show on EWTN while channel surfing yesterday. It was a priest saying a special novena for priests and reading a letter directed to all priests who are suffering so greatly now. the whole mood could be described as crestfallen. Well, if not humor, then irony: They have it so hard. They are nostalgic for the days when they could pronounce on others' lives with impunity, and actually get the the State to enact their obsessions. Now they are marginalized. Boo-Hoo. Here is one gay guy who has seen them up close, and I don't don't take their tears seriously. Here is one gay guy who will make the decent distinction. As for all the decent, kind, and everyday Catholics, bless them. To all the nuts-of-religion who have gotten away with so much within the Catholic church, and are now nostalgic for their former powers, and soo, soo depressed.
A pox on your dementia, and enjoy hell when you get there!

Yes Camille, I live near the Hippo. They have Bingo on Wednesday. Therefore it is the Catholic watering hole, among other things.
http://www.clubhippo.com/

Dana LaRocca,
I love the American Papussed--he is great--I think he is taking ironic pokes at the church's attitude toward gays and homosexuality--you have a delicious sense of humor yourself--lighten up--at first I thought he was a fanatic--now I think he is simply posing as one to poke at the fanatics and by doing so he is showing the ludicrousness of some of the positions the church has taken. Hence I am not calling someone I dislike gay--I am calling someone I am enjoying immensely gay--if he is gay that is great--if he is not--fine--I love his humorous posts--and by the way not all 12 year olds are juvenile empty heads--many are more accepting of the varieties of people around them than are adults--and for all you know I may be a precocious 12 year old watching you amusedly as you desperately try to pin anti gay sentiments on me--or should I say, tenaciously try to pin--anyway accept my olive branch on the subject LaRocca--you have an unforgiving memory and a stubborn partiality for your misinterpretations. Hang it up and rest easy.
Ravensfan Anon

Well, you won't have The American Papussed to kick around anymore. I know when I have overstayed my welcome. I am taking my ball and going home!

Ave Maria!

Tom

A man I greatly admire, Bill Donahue, has been attacked on this site, and I wish to show how philosophy vindicates him. Bill said on EWTN the other night though he would be against an anti-Semite appearing at a Catholic institution, that he also felt later confident to state that "only" the Catholic Church gets attacked in contemporary society the way it does. Those who do not understand Natural Law may wonder at the seeming contradiction in this. Doesn't admitting there are anti-Semites mean Jews are being attacked as well. Bill Donahue is not saying that Jews do not suffer from anti-Semitism. But he is also right that "only" Catholics are attacked. Let me explain. You see if you understand the history of Natural Law you see that only those who understand the Church's assumptions about it are really coherent. Others may have a limited coherence. But not the ultimate coherence, of which St. Thomas provides a shining example. What Bill is really saying is that anyone who questions the right of the Church to make pronouncements about how the rest of the world should live, and the exact way society should be ordered, and how laws which potentially could throw people in jail are enacted, anyone who denied the Church the right to do all this is engaging in a bigoted attack on the Church. This is why Bill Donahue said he is not against fair criticism of the Church. Fair criticism would be criticizing the color of vestments, or the architecture of a Church design. But if you deny the Catholic Church to order all of society you are a bigot.

It is also good that on EWTN Bill Donahue referred to groups like SNAP as "professional victims" and said the Pope has apologized enough. Those who understand Natural Law also understand that there might be a misinterpretation of various modes of causation, but not ultimately. These victims may have suffered, but that does not mean the catechesis they received was not efficient. That is why Bill said that anyone who does not love the Bishops should just leave the Church. Furthermore, those terrible victims' groups have spread rumors that Bill Donahue has been using his membership to unlawfully meddle in the lives of others. They portray this churchly "warrior" as a de facto criminal, and a blunderbuss one at that. Well I am here to defend him by Natural Law. Society is so disordered now that only extraordinary means will work. That is why I consider myself a Natural Law revolutionary. And I have hired for my Foundation with this in mind. The society we have now is so far from Natural Law that it is not necessary to obey its laws. Do you see how I support this by Reason. That is what having the Mind of the Church does for you. If you like what I have said, you should support my Institute, Projected American Principles, Inc. People who support the Catholic League will no doubt feel right at home in our Foundation.

Robert Georgeous, Projected American Principles, Inc

Robert Georgeous - Might I suggest a regimen of lithium treatments.

Mr. Littel,

Fortunately conservative Catholics have at their disposal the Institute for the Psychological Sciences, with licensed psychiatrists on hand to dispense psychoactive drugs if we need them, and a regimen of reparative therapies for those suffering from unwanted homosexual desires. We Catholics have the bases covered, therefore, psychiatrically speaking.

Thank you for your concern, and any rate Risperdal works better than lithium nowadays.


Robert Georgeous, Projected American Principles, Inc.

This evening I caught the interview by Sally Quinn of a religion author named Stephen Prothero. It was soooo depressing. Mr. Prothero is supposed to be an interesting expert on religion. In a few minutes he managed to sound fatuous and pretentious at the same time, And uninformed. He actually spoke, without irony, of "market share' as related to religious affiliation. He gave into the slimy thesis that contemporary Chinese political culture is some sort of new Confucianism, instead of the attenuated, bizarre and grizzled Marxism it truly is. Worst of all, from my perspective, he bad mouthed former students of his at Georgia State who during a course he taught on "Nazi Theology" dared to express the opinion that true Christians could not have adopted this heinous theological melange. Some of Mr. Prothero's opinions seem blandly liberal and OK, but he is just one more badly scattered intellectual. I praise God, however you choose to conceive him, that I did not end up in academia. It is a grim affair apparently. But such a grim example almost makes me want to give up on the very idea of religious dialogue, If "experts" are so hidebound to trendy ideas. But most of all it makes me think that dealing with all these matters in the form of cartoons is very good idea. When scholars themselves are given to cartoonish discussion of religion, there is no reason not to jump in whole hog.

To Tom, The American Papussed: I owe you an apology and I hereby issue that apology. I misinterpreted what you had to say and made quite a fool of myself. Please forgive!

And also to Camille:
Thank you for your kind comment on June 5 from the blog posting “Judge blocks public school graduation in church.” Please see my comment to you on the recent posting called "Women's ordination groups march on Vatican" OR go back to “Judge blocks public school graduation in church” and my comment to you is there as well.

If this ends up being a double posting I do apologize. My computer was acting strangly so I resubmitted this.

To Tom, The American Papussed: I owe you an apology and I hereby issue that apology. I misinterpreted what you had to say and made quite a fool of myself. Please forgive!

And also to Camille:
Thank you for your kind comment on June 5 from the blog posting “Judge blocks public school graduation in church.” Please see my comment to you on the recent posting called "Women's ordination groups march on Vatican" OR go back to “Judge blocks public school graduation in church” and my comment to you is there as well.

Just what I feared. I'm sorry for the double posting. My bad.

I have a great deal of respect for our Constitution, and in particular “freedom of speech,” which applies to this blog posting. Yes, I even think that religions – all religions – can and should be a target for lampooning. However, sometimes such criticisms go beyond the bounds of good taste. I am in a quandary as to where to draw the line between justified criticism and what does, in fact, go beyond such bounds. Criticism is called for in many cases but us seculars need to find a “kinder and gentler humanism.” I give credit here to Mr. Paul Kurtz for the previous quote; in addition, I give him credit as a mentor who has helped me to develop my own world-view. Kurtz was the founder and former Chair Emeritus of the “Council for Secular Humanism” and he also has a problem with today’s so-called “new-atheists” or the “four horsemen of the apocalypse” – Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, and Hitchens. I have read their books and I do, in fact, give credit to these men for bringing me out of “fence-sitting” agnosticism into full-blown atheism. With that said, these gentlemen DO come across to the public at large as arrogant, egotistical, know-it-all, “holier than thou” blowhards and this certainly does not help the cause. To sum it up, we do need to find that place for criticism – but such criticism needs to be tempered with understanding and respect for all faiths (and none).

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About Matthew Hay Brown
Matthew Hay Brown writes and blogs about faith and values in public and private life for The Baltimore Sun. A former Washington correspondent for the newspaper, he has long written about the intersection of religion and politics. He has reported from Africa, Asia, Europe, Latin America and the Middle East, traveling most recently to Syria and Jordan to write about the Iraqi refugee crisis.
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