Blame the (alleged?) actions of (shooting suspect?) murderer Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan on his his Muslim faith? Hardly. But you must ask what other "faith" acquiesce/condones/supports the crying out to the Creator, "Allahu akbar!" ...then goes on to kill His Children? It's about as stupid as it comes and yet it is repeated over and over in the Muslim world as if it makes sense! This behavior may not have been taught in the Muslim world, but it sure is tolerated and in some circles, praised! It's in stark contrast to Christ's message of Love.

While Americans may be unlikely to blame the actions of Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan on his Palestinian roots or his Muslim faith, I do blame the Muslim world for not doing enough to disavow this idiocy. Of course the "Christian faith" did the same during the Crusades so perhaps that's where the Muslim world learned this behavior. The American Native had it right, listen to the Wind for guidance (God speaks in a soft voice), not your angry brethren.

"But you must ask what other "faith" acquiesce/condones/supports the crying out to the Creator, "Allahu akbar!" ..."

It has been widely reported that this event in particular has not been confirmed, and there has been serious doubt cast upon whether he actually said this.

Do try to be more informed when commenting in the future.

Every Muslim in the USA privately rejoiced at what their murderer executioner carried out in the name of having been discriminated against etc. etc. The same old song, over and over again. We are actually supposed to ''sympathize'' with them, or, they will kill more of us but they still WANT that visa to come and live in America, their way.

I'm Asian myself, and an atheist, and I can't help but notice how the intense animosity of Muslim activists in vilifying US military personnel only fuels hate crimes like this - oh, and it was a hate crime. One doesn't have to be Muslim to be a victim of a hate crime. There seem to be a disproportionate number of violent attacks emanating from the Muslim community, and the reason is that hate-filled views are not being adequately confronted or denounced within the community. As a result, lopsided hate-filled perspectives are going unchallenged and are proliferating. I can only see more such acts occurring in the future, until Muslim activists learn to confront their own, instead of giving hate-mongers solace.

This guy was nuts--religion seems to convert people to werewolves. For Allah, Jesus and Buddha people have committed and will continue to commit horrific crimes while the faithful go around explaining that the violence of these men has nothing to do with faith; faith itself being pure, unadulterated and joyful. In reality faith is like bottled up magma. It erupts unexpectedly from the fanatic over the innocents. The Buddhists in Sri Lanka who have annihilated the Hindu Tamils, the Christians who have slaughtered the Jews, the Hindus and the Muslims who brutalize each other in Kashmir, the Muslims and the Jews who extinguish each other at the Temple Mount--God is a provocateur of the worst in humans--some would say the best too. I say, "Spare me the good news about God!" This man was a jihadist who wanted to go out in splendor for Allah. The religious of every religion disown guys like these--at the speed of light they'll come out in droves to say, "He is not ours--he is Satan's messenger!" The Christian killers who shoot at abortion doctors on behalf of baby Jesus
wreak their havoc too. And what about the numerous Christian killers who have appeared in churches recently, spraying bullets on worshipers for the heck of it or for revenge? I would say to the religious don't abandon the hideous characters who disfigure your religions. Take ownership of and responsibility of them. Nothing will change in any religion until its dark side is acknowledged, confronted and analyzed on a daily basis.
Ravensfan Anon

Anon – You sound almost as nonsensical as Clay. The only difference is Clay’s posts aren’t as well written. You focus solely on bad and ignore the good. How do you know what the man is? You may be right or maybe there is another story. I suspect if we look at the teachings, not the actions of a few, you won’t be able to show where any one of them advocates the kind of violence you describe. As much as you rant about religions disowning them atheists like yourself rush to try and make them the representative of that religion or in your case all of them. I leave you with the same question I posed for Robert. If all religions were gone do you honestly think people wouldn’t find another justification for committing such evil against someone else? Assuming you are correct on the Doctor be a martyr for his homeland or nationality. Those who kill abortionists would be claiming they are defending unborn from murder. In fact without the fear of God to stop them maybe we’d have more not less violence in the world.
ravenfan

Ravensfan,
You misunderstood what I wrote. I believe fanaticism is a global problem with all religions. When the proponents of God disown the dark side of religion and argue it is an anomaly, it never gets addressed. In places of worship the religionists cannot even identify or recognize the fanatics and the violent among them. Sure these guys don't grow horns or scream, "I am an extremist!" but the pastors, the priests, the imams and the rabbis, who tend to the souls of their flock, are blissfully unaware of what plagues some of their congregants. When they do intuit that something is wrong they don't confront the problem with the intention of rooting it out. I would love to imagine that in the big Virginia mosque in question, where Hasan worshiped, there will be an open discussion about the whys and the wherefores of this massacre. If I am the imam in that place I would openly ask during prayers and sermons, "Those who think Hasan is a hero or he was right raise your hands." Then I would lead a discussion as to why some people think this violence should not be condemned--why to some Hasan may be a hero. The problem lies in assuming that no such rebels with unorthodox opinions exist within the ranks of the ordinary churches and mosques. The places of worship are unable to out these fanatics or deal them. Many actually encourage them with theologies and dogmas that are deemed incontrovertible. You sing the same song Ravensfan. It is always that the message is good. As far as I am concerned, the religious, should take ownership of the dark underbelly of religion. Latin masses and long winded philosophies from the Koran won't prevent the proliferation of the killers. When the messengers of religion are death merchants, then surely you recognize something is terribly wrong? Do I think if there were no religion, then violence would decrease in the world? Yes, Ravensfan, I do.
Ravensfan Anon

Anon – I can’t speak for all religions since I don’t feel qualified to do so. Speaking for my own and I suspect it applies to the others too there is no dark side of religion only of people. I agree that you can not assume that no such fanatics or unorthodox rebels exist within the ordinary ranks of any group. The problem lies in what can be done about it. You offer no ideas on that subject rather as many atheists due you use it to rationalize your own belief that the cause is religion. I know of no Christian dogma that encourages violence or killing. I’m not saying violence hasn’t happened as it certainly has. Those who do such things are not following the message of Christ. If you want to prove me wrong on that feel free and give it your best shot. You are kidding yourself on violence decreasing without religion. Why exactly do you think murder, assault & stealing are illegal? A good guess would be religion beliefs and practices which were around before the laws existed. Instead of trying to place the blame at religion place it where it belongs. It the greed, lust, envy, bigotry, anger, & hate of humanity that is the drives the violence. I agree that philosophies from any religious text won’t prevent the proliferation fanatical killers. My point is it’s not the cause either regardless of how bad you wish it to be. You ignore all the good things which have been done by various religions and focus on the smaller number of evils committed by fanatics who twist a religion to try and justify the unjustifiable.
ravensfan