Good these programs are big fat bores. Even God would bolt a trillion light years away from planet Earth in order to avoid these idiot box paeans to His greatness. The PBS board has given the omnipotent one a break. Is it hard to stream these interminable and insufferable services? If so three cheers for digital TV. Finally the Tribune company is going to save these publicly aired church services from extinction? Is the Tribune company addle pated? I know. A superfluous question.

Well, Muslims dont have to worry. They get tons of free airtime from the president on all networks.

I haven't seen these tons of free airtime Clay. I don't know what one Muslim Imam thinks about any issue in America. I haven't seen the President hogging the airwaves with Muslims in tow. Have you? If yes is the answer to that question you must be hallucinating. Wipe your brow, drink a glass of cold water and stop feeling besieged by imagined bugaboos-- Muslim wraiths ready to seize you through the idiot box wearing placards that scream,"The President is on our side!" The President happens to be a Christian but you probably would say that is a lie because you have X Ray vision into his soul and you can see what lies there is the word, "Allah!" And I say, "So what? Get over it!"

Like I said before, you are either for Christ or against Him. There is no inbetween. If the president went to Turkey and said that we are not a Christian nation then he does not have Christ in his heart, and if he doesnt he is not a Christian. He made it a point to go out of his way for the King of Saudi Arabia and brushed off the leaders of France and Germany. He spoke to the Muslim people about how he grew up Muslim. I am simply stating facts. Thanks.

This may come as a shock to you Clay-- we are a secular nation where a majority of the people are Christian by birth but not necessarily Christian by persuasion and a minority of people belong to a whole lot of religions. We are not a theocracy--and thank God we are not--like Iran or Saudi Arabia-- and that is one of the things that makes America great. Barack Obama did not say America is not a Christian nation--that's your interpretation because that is what you want to hear him say--perhaps because you do not like Barack Obama--he merely said that Islam too has played an important role in America --which it has Clay--go read the illustrious names in science, medicine, architecture and government and you will find, to your surprise, etched in the annals of American history there are many dedicated, successful and industrious Muslims---that doesn't mean Christian achievements are minimal or marginal--Christians are the majority here--they should not suffer from the insecurities and doubts that plague the minorities--the general assumption is that the Christians being far larger in number than the others, they would have the self confidence and the ego strength not to feel marginalized. Barack Obama had the right policy and the right speech for his visit to the Middle East. He was being hosted by the Egyptians--he gave all Muslims a boost, he flattered them but he told only truths about the greatness of Muslim inventions in math and science--facts like the Arabs preserving Pythagorean calculations and other Greek ideas are historically true--a spoonful of honey makes the medicine go down--Obama urged the Arabs to recognize Israel's right to exist--he urged the Israelis to give up expanding their settlements--he asked everyone to give a little to get a little--none of what he did makes him any less a Christian--a Christian is one who is tolerant and one who loves peace--a Christian does the work of the Lord----the Lord after all is love and peace--what would you have Barack Obama do? Should he, like the Muslim extremists declare war on all Muslims for not accepting Jesus as their savior? Should he say he won't visit them or that he thinks less of who they are as a people because they don't believe in Jesus--if he does that do you think Christ the Lord would admire him for that and call him a true Christian? On the other hand if he is complimentary to the Muslims, reaches out to them explaining what he has in common with them, if he tells them that Muslims are a cultured and accomplished people, that their contributions are valid and admired in America does it mean he cannot love Jesus in his heart, cannot pray to Jesus at night, that Jesus will not hear his prayers or that he will be condemned at resurrection to a lesser place with the unsaved while you yourself will ascend for no more than repeating like a mantra that Jesus is your lord and savior. Come on Clay-- give me a break--I hope you don't mean half or even all of what you write. To me Jesus is the very essence of tolerance. If you want everyone in the world to believe that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, you cannot achieve that by spitting in their faces because they don't know any better, you may be able to get them to ponder Jesus more if you have an exemplary behavior of tolerance and love, if you show in your comportment the acceptance Jesus had for all mankind including and especially for the sinners.

Hi. I find it hard to believe that someone loves Christ if they dont talk about Him. Do you think the president ever will? Of course Christ died for all of us, but unfortunately most people dont accept Him. Those who dont, of any religion, dont go to heaven. So to give a speech to Muslims about how the president grew up around Muslims, etc is useless to those Muslims if he doesnt tell them about Christ. Of course he didnt, and he probably never will, because he doesnt have Christ in his heart. If someone does it is impossible not to talk about it. It is a simple matter to consider and I am not being intolerant of anything. Thanks.

When I say my prayers tonight I will remember to thank the good Lord for not being an absolutist in the vein of Clay the "In Good Faith" blogger. There is nuttiness and then there is NUTTINESS. The latter category is what is enshrined in the hearts of those who set the flames of religious discord billowing in the name of adhering strictly to the visions and commandments of their faith.

These are not only absolutists but also literalists, concrete and tone deaf for parables, extrapolations and metaphors. As they read it, according to them, is the way God meant everything to be--in fact they have a conduit to God's mouth and to God's brain. They cause much harm all over the world cloaking their impenetrable illogic in sanctity, calling questions about their beliefs desecrations of the word of God. And here we have another example of this pathology.

Hello. It is not a matter of lengthy explanations. The bible tells me to love Christ and to spread the word about Him. I do it because it is what He tells me to and because I love Him. It is no attempt to spread religious discord, and the president, by attempting to treat all faiths as being acceptable to God, is doing nothing for those who need to hear that word, even if he is doing it because that is what he believes and feels and not to garnish more votes. All faith is clearly not acceptable to God, and the bible makes that clear. That doesnt mean that I dislike anyone because I am a Christian and spread this word. For me to believe that this causes "harm all over the world" and to stop telling others about Christ is, quite frankly, what the guy down below wants me to do. God bless.

@Clay - thanks for the hilarious posts !

I'm invoking Poe's Law
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe's_Law

And you believe the only way someone could be saying the things Clay has spouted would be if he were doing a little baiting and having a little fun at the expense of the gullible-or of course if he were a true nut fundamentalist--or if he were a former fundamentalist who wants to deadpan and destroy fundamentalism by pointing out the depth of its stupidity. Whatever. Long live Clay, his perverse sense of humor or lack thereof.

Lots of people consider themselves to be religious but dont have salvation. Religion is man's attempt to reach out to God. Salvation is God reaching down to save man through the blood of Christ. This is the only way someone is going to get to heaven. If the president decides someday to love Christ we will know it because we will hear him profess it. Likewise, when someone leaves a comment here, it isnt hard to tell who loves Christ and who doesnt. Thanks for your comments.

Hey Dave you invoke Poe's law and Clay invokes Christ--he doesn't give up does he? You think you caught him with his pants down, he puts his pants on again and spouts his nonsense. Perhaps he is an android made in an MIT experimental lab successfully invested with a soul and released to blog in good faith. Give it a rest Clay. You might have a complete mental breakdown.

I'm not assuming that no one else read the posts, and I dont regret witnessing to others. Have a good one.

Ah Clay, still at the charade I see. You are the best bleating lamb of Christ this side of the Suez. Of course you are not assuming no one else reads these posts. I am sure you have a large audience thanks to Mathew Brown who manages to post some of the best darn blogs around. Still we got far away from the original subject. What thinkest thou about the PBS decision not to carry the interminably boring Sunday church services? Other than becoming an instant wounded Christian soldier and condemning the decision do you have something sane to say about the matter like , "Hurray!" for instance or is that is too much to ask of a meek and obedient lamb under the spell of Poe's law? By the way what thinkest thou of Dave T, whose life's ambition seems to have been fulfilled when he spotted you as an imposter and called out first, "I invoke Poe's law". Can you forgive him for his audacity and will the Lord forgive him for exposing you?