Damn knives! When will we ban them or demand a license to own them?

If the young adults can not go out during reasonable hours and behave themselves. Why on earth would it someone want to be out with them at 3-4 am, after a night of drinking. No way should hours be extended for bars.

he'd be dead or seriously injured if he were shot. Plus, knife fatalities aren't even close to firearm related casualties. Going after somebody with a knife is hand to hand. Shooting at somebody doesn't involve even knowing how to fight--not the same at all. Not to mention a kid can take out multiple people with a firearm and not even need to be able to fight as witnessed everyday in the metro section of the DC or Baltimore newspapers. Comparing the two is moronic.

Baltimore is a violent city.....

Well, unlike a gun, people usually don't randomly stab some bystander.

I used to live near where this happened in Riverside. It's sad.

I watched the group outside Hogans for over an hour. All but one big fat drunk Chris Farley look alike were well behaved. Fat boy was harassing people walking by for over an hour and got what he deserved. Ha-Ha.

First of all the guy who stabbed the victim was UNKOWN to the group of people. I play for the team, and no one knew, or has ever seen this guy before. The incident involved only one member of the team, and the victim was breaking the earlier fight. The females thought that the victim had something to do with the fight and did not. While the females where attacking my friend, the guy ran up and stabbed him from behind.

I forgot to mention that this all happened after the pub crawl was already over for atleast 2 hours.

I was on an overlapping pub crawl that day and indeed those people were incredibly drunk, loud and extremely belligerent at 2:30pm - not surprised in any way shape or form that this happened.

chaz - thanks for explaining a little better. i'll take back the second part of my comment

Anonymous is a giant PUSSYcat like all the other gun rights people, hence the anonymous. Notice this guy wasn't killed, he probably would have been had the attacker used a handgun.

Where were you when we saw details of the Ft. Hood massacre or elementary school shooting last week. I am sure if somebody came into your workplace or church one day and had the barrell pointed at you, your opinion of gun control would change pretty quickly. IDIOT!

Clearly ken666 hasn't a clue. The guy who was stabbed was at another bar before this happened so you couldn't have been watching him for over an hour. He far from deserved what happened and you should definately have something better to do than watch a party you weren't invited to for over an hour. What a moron!

Um... anonymous, do you realize what you're suggesting? Ban knives or require a license to own them? what about steak knives? am i going to have to register my steak knives now? let me guess, you weren't talking about steak knives, even though they have the potential to be just as deadly as any other knife.

you know what else comes with licensing of knives? licensing fees. we now need a whole new branch of government (funded by our endless supply of money, right?) which will never be able to pay for itself based on our licensing fees (that is, unless we deem forks to be a hazard as well and require a license for those).

of course we could just go with your first option of banning knives. i'll just go back to cutting my food with a spoon like i did when i was 5.

George was stabbed,
John was shot.
George survived,
John did not.

i find it very amusing how the author of this article is trying to somehow make it look as if the victim, who is a friend of mine, is at fault for what happened. The man who was stabbed was not involved in the previous altercation other than to stop it from happening. And as far as the man who committed the crime, he was and still is, UNKNOWN to the group.

Joe, I'm conveying what police told me. I don't have a dog in the fight. For now, I'll soften the language and try to clarify with police based on some of the comments posted here. If you'd like to help me and provide more information, please send an email to justin.fenton@baltsun.com -Justin

It's amusing how everyone becomes Encyclopedia Brown after reading a police blotter. Pub crawls with a million different themes and a million different causes happen almost every weekend. It's not the idea of a pub crawl or the Hitmen Football team that are responsible for this unwarranted attack of one of it's members. It is the deranged felon who STABBED someone who is SOLELY responsible.

Granted Evan, if this were say a "yuppy golf attire themed" pub crawl, and Chet and Winston got in a scuffle because Chet promised Winston he wasn't gonna wear the same argyle sweater, it probably wouldn't have ended up in a police blotter.BUT, there was no interal altercation between friends here.

The point is... The Hitmen Football team, in particular Chaz, spent a great deal of time organizing this event; and at the end of the day local businesses profitted greatly from have 150+ patrons spending money in their establishments. The Hitmen raised money, the bars made money, no one was injured or arrested, and the Pub Crawl ended at 5:00pm. Two hours later a law abiding and hard working young man who happended to be on the pub crawl is stabbed by an unknown assailant, and somehow he and the Pub Crawl are to blame? Are you kidding me???????
Get the facts straight before you jump to conclusions.

I don't care one bit about this except to remind myself not to get involved with fighting with drunks I don't no. No matter hao big and bad you may be the other guy can alway one up you with a knife or gun.

My real anger is at Melvin Hunt (2nd commenter above). Melvin learn how to Freaking READ. I hate people who post but fail to read the story. MELVIN it happened at 7:30pm....What does that have to do with extending Bar hours. Your an IDIOT. Please get reading lessons for a local 3rd grader you need it.

Moe - you make anonymous's point for him... The problem in the situation wasn't the knife; it was the scumbag who used the knife for criminal purposes. The knife isn't bad, and doesn't need to be banned or require lisencing to own/carry/use legally. And the vast majority of us own knives (dangerous and deadly weapons, clearly), and use them legally all the time. There's no logical reason to ban them. And the same applies to guns.

Cyberfool: if you don't think people hurt or kill innocent, uninvolved bystanders with knives...he should do a simple internet search for and watch all the videos from around the world of people randomly attacking and killing innocent, unrelated victims with knives, machetes, and swords from through Europe and Asia...where they can't have guns.

bill russell: I'm willing to bet that Anonymous's viewpoint of gun control includes a knowledge that if anyone came into his workplace or church and pointed a gun at him, Anonymous would draw his own legal firearm and defend himself, likely preventing his own death, and definitely preventing the injury and deaths of other innocent victims around him.

Remember folks...before we had guns, we human beings killed eachother in the millions with knives, swords, axes, bows and arrows, clubs, burning oil, rocks, and sticks. If you take guns out of the equation, we revert to doing the same thing. The knife in this scenario wasn't the problem. It was the stupid behavior of the drunks and the other women, and the criminal mindset and behavior of the thug who stabbed the 'victim'.

Think and speak with your brains, with reason, and with logic; not with emotionally driven political rhetoric.

ken666 needs to get his facts straight before he opens his mouth with lies. the guy who was stabbed was assaulted well after the first fight that he stepped in to break up. Ken666 needs to delete his comment.

It's absolutely amazing that after all the senseless crime and killing in this city ruled by wild thugs, that there are still ignorant and gutless people defending gun control. If socialist MD allowed law- abiders to carry then this mess might never have happened.

Evan, it's fools like you who are the IDIOTS.

I just spoke to the guy who ran this story and he now has the facts of what happened. The Pub crawl was a great success and very fun until this incident. The reporter is going to get the right story published soon enough thank you all for your support through this tough time.

Great way to spend a Sunday. That stuff's cool while you're still doing undergrad, but I passed the group on my walk home from the store and most of them looked to be around 30+/- a few years.

The gun/knife debate is irrelevant here. Grow up and act like man. Real men don't get wasted in the middle of the afternoon. When you act like lowlife, trash, bad things happen. At about 4:00pm I saw these guys wasted, screaming and yelling, one guy had to be carried by two of his friends. Two others stumbled out into Fort Ave in front of oncoming traffic. Seriously, get your act together and stop being an embarrassment to the human race. 4 billion years of evolution got you to what you are. Your ancestors survived the ice age, multiple wars, plagues, and crop failures, for what??? So you could act like Bluto from Animal House??? And you wonder why you look disgustingly repulsive and have to take a little blue pill to make it work. Yeah, that's a real man.

I watched 2 pub crawls walk up Fort Ave over the course of a couple of hours on Saturday afternoon. The Snuggie pub crawlers were relatively well behaved. The footballers were over the top obnoxious. They were carrying and drinking bottled beers (more broken glass for me to have to clean off my sidewalk - thank you very much...) and screaming at one another and other random people along the way. They represented the complete epitome of white trash in my opinion. Maybe when you learn to control yourself in public, you can learn how to avoid situations that lead to violence.

To the sponsor bars - where is the responsibility of not letting patrons leave with glass bottles? I'm not talking about one or two, either. The group in particular that I witnessed had to have had almost an entire 12 pack of glass bottles amongst them.

Nobody better talk about my Melvin like that. I'll take a slipper to your rear-ends! Melvin is a good boy and never had a drink in his life. While these hooligans were getting stabbed Melvin was home with me helping me hem slacks and make adjustments to wedding dresses. He is the best needle threader on Jackson Street i'll have you know! And these boys dont know how to drink! Miss Wheatsie has moles on her face that can drink more liquor than these Hitmen boys. Melvin, come home, supper is almost ready!

I think some people are missing the point here. A man was stabbed and almost died. A hard working, single father, who was trying to do the right thing. If you have such a problem with the bar crawl itself, take it up with RAG of the bar owners you're upset with. Get off your high horse and show a little sympathy for the victim who is sitting home in pain unable to work. Idiots

i blame Taps, they operate on a thin budget, they do not have the security that the other "cross st" bars have. If they did, then the initial altercation would have ended there, preventing "the incident" from ever happening. That place was sooo much better when it was a neighborhood bar... please, metro twins, take your business elsewhere.

I was one of the people that was in the bar crawl and I think it is a shame that one stupid person does something stupid and everyone is to blame. I know Mike Kooser personally and he is not a trouble maker, he is a good person. The bar crawl was over when the stabbing accured and I don't think the bar crawl or the football team should be punshed for some stupid persons actions.

Not sure you should be going the route of blaming the bar, regardless of how much you miss Fort Charles Pub. That will not help the overall perception of your team. No need to blame someone else if you are contending that the situation was not your fault.

Great way to spend a Sunday.~(Saturday actually. It was a great way to spend a Saturday)

That stuff's cool while you're still doing undergrad, but I passed the group on my walk home from the store and most of them looked to be around 30+/- a few years.
~(They all actually are undergrads, they just look older because finals are soon approaching and they are stressed)

The gun/knife debate is irrelevant here.
~(Until someone stabs you smart-a$$)

Grow up and act like man. Real men don't get wasted in the middle of the afternoon.
~(What does time a real man get wasted? We could have moved the bar crawl back a few hours and got wasted like "real men" according to anti-Bacchus over here!)

When you act like lowlife, trash, bad things happen. At about 4:00pm I saw these guys wasted, screaming and yelling, one guy had to be carried by two of his friends.
~(That's just an example of teamwork my friend. Band of Brothers, you should rent it!)

Two others stumbled out into Fort Ave in front of oncoming traffic.
~(Well instead of just being a peeping Tom, you should have probably gave a little shout of your own to give them a heads up of the oncoming car.)

Seriously, get your act together and stop being an embarrassment to the human race. 4 billion years of evolution got you to what you are. Your ancestors survived the ice age, multiple wars, plagues, and crop failures, for what???
~(My ancestors did not participate in the ice age. But I did see the movie with my niece. The first one was awesome, but part II"the meltdown" was disappointing.)

So you could act like Bluto from Animal House???
~(Great movie... I like where your head is at!)

And you wonder why you look disgustingly repulsive and have to take a little blue pill to make it work. Yeah, that's a real man.

(Blue pill? Speak for yourself. Pretty much eveyone on the bar crawl had an erection the entire time and maintained them throughout the evening.)

This was no fund raising event. It was a bunch of "thugs", thats right "white thugs". If these little boys could each manage to save a dollar a week in an empty beer can they will not need a similiar "fund raiser" next year. I could not believe that it took so long for violence to break out. As you can see in the comments that i was not the only one to witness the little boys in the ghetto white tee shirts acting like thugs. To say that i should delete my comment is silly. Maybe this will teach you little boys to behave and possibly police each other. Friends don't let friends act like thugs. Hopefully the fat one, and you all know who i mean will learn a valuable lesson.

2008 FBI Crime Stats:

Northeast U.S.

Knives are used more frequently then Firearms in aggravated assaults:

Knives or Cutting Instruments; 21.6 %

Firearms; 14.9 %!!!

U.S. as a whole:

Knives; 18.9 %

Firearms; 21.4 %

AND get this "Other weapons (Clubs, Blunt Objects, etc.) ARE USED THE MOST 33.5 %

Maybe one should educate themselves before they make statements that are completely false and based solely on their own perceptions!

To the FORT AVE RESIDENT.I went on the bar crawl i had a blast, i saw the snuggy bar crawlers they were sitting around like all of the lame yuppy do just like you were sitting on ur step watching us have fun raising money for our football team, hey maybe you shoulda signed up and seen how much fun it was and supported a great cause. SEE YOU NEXT YEAR WITH MY BEER BOTTLE

I have to comment on this and normally I do not. I was an attendee at the bar crawl as were many middle aged and older individuals. The entire bar crawl crowd was not "rowdy" or "disruptive". I witnessed the first fight at TAPS. I agree with the security issue and overheard the owner say it "was no longer on his property and not his problem" the so called bouncer pushed the fight to the street and then stood in the door way. Absolutely ridiculous. While I admit most everyone in the crawl was very drunk they were not violent. The individuals in the first fighter (were wearing the shirts) though I am not familiar with them and it's sad that a random few people can give the entire crawl a bad name. I am familiar with the victim and he was indeed trying to break up the initial fight and exited TAPS after the fight disbursed. The fight seemed to go on for quite a while it was odd that the cops did not respond quicker as if they were not called when the bar had first tossed the group. I think its horrible to blame the victim or the bar crawl organizers. You can't blame everyone for crimes that are committed. I think some people post comments just to get a rise out of people. If the city is that bad as some suggest then dont move here and surely dont come drink here.

Leaving Hogans around 430ish I encountered a preppy group being loud, clapping jumping up on peoples steps, throwing stuff (none of which in t-shirts) and yet we dont read any of this on the blog as suggested above they pick and choose what to report. I also live in an area where many bargoers park, many of which preppy bars and I am disturbed every weekend by fights either verbal or physical by extremely drunk yuppies. Yet we have not read about any of this in the paper. I say if you are going to report on incidents report on all of them, dont pick and choose.

So you're saying a stabbing that sends someone to Shock Trauma should get the same news coverage as people clapping and jumping off steps? -Justin

One question: where was Ray Lewis when this happened?
I'm just sayin.....

Hitmen: For your next fundraiser, may I suggest a Fort Avenue sidewalk sweep-up and a silent vigil against street violence? I'm in for $10 if you'll raise your money without drinking, just as an experiment. Try it and let us know whether you enjoy it.

My best wishes go to the injured man for a speedy and full recovery.

No im saying that cops have been called for fights other than this and yet they are not reported to the blogs. I understand someone was stabbed but at the same time when someone is beaten and taken to the hospital wouldnt that qualify as "news coverage material" as you suggest. I realize you too wear the "preppie" title but when is a "criminal called a criminal" do they have to make under a certain dollar amount to get that title? It seems to me more people are concerned with the "social status" of the bar crawl individuals then the crime that was commited against one of those people. Im wondering if this would have had the same response had it been Joe Doe the executive vs. Mike Kooser the single father hard working football player.

All I can say to this is that when I started reporting it, I had no idea who the victim was or whether this was from the snuggie bar crawl or the Hitmen bar crawl or something different altogether, and at the end of the day it doesnt matter. I was getting a lot of questions and I aimed to answer them.

EO: You plan it and we are in.

I have been to many bar crawls in the past, and everytime there seems to be a fight. They always happen after the crawl is over though. We did not intend for any of this to happen. Most of us were born and raised in South Baltimore, including myself. The bar crawl was a success, the team raised money to keep playing all year, and the bars made money. To place blame on the bar is ridiculous! The bars have no control over how people act. The sad part of this is, that the piece of sh*t that stabbed my friend is still out there. I would personally, as a member of the team like to apologize to anyone who we offended or disturbed. It was not ment for anything bad to happen.

I know the man that was stabbed. I was supposed to go on the bar crawl but had other plans. And for people to even insinuate that Mike, or the Hitmen for that matter had anything to do with this incident is ridiculous. This bar crawl brought in a lot of money for a great cause and packed the bars which brought in money to these establishments. I wish people would get all the facts strait before laying blame on a man that in the beginning was just doing the right thing and was wrongly caught in a bad situation. Hopefully the piece of garbage that did this is brought to justice.

Fort Ave Resident-Get off your high horse. I am friends with people that were on the bar crawl and for you to call them all "White Trash" because of a few people is insane. Please get to know people before you categorize them. Its people like you that make me sick. If you don't like the people that into bars in your neighborhood then don't live by bars. I'm sure there a lot worse people that go in and out of these establishments on a daily occurrence than a group of hard working, fun loving young people trying to make their community better. You might want to get to know someone before you judge them.

Did most of the people posting on this matter forget that the gentleman that was stabbed was unarmed? Did they overlook the fact that Michael was the one trying to break up the fight that initially started this tragic incident? People should really think before posting things. Imagine if this were your son, brother, father, etc. This man has a son that he takes care of, works for a living, obviously participates in extra curricular activities instead of hanging out with the local addicts or sellers. The activity they were engaging in benefited not only his football team but the local business owners in Baltimore. Regardless of the fact that people may have been loud and rowdy does not excuse the fact that some idiot decided to use a knife to resolve the issue. The girls being involved only proves that this incident was premeditated and not very well thought out. The attacker had every intention of causing a lot of damage as he stabbed the victim in the back as he was not even facing him.

I am saddened to hear the responses from the negative, cold-hearted residents of South Baltimore. Raised in South Baltimore for almost 20 years, I have never heard people of your own community acting with such disdain towards their own neighbors. If you weren't so self-involved, you would stop judging and realize what the above blogger, Joe Kazmierski said. A man was stabbed and almost lost his life. A man that I know personally and shared the bar crawl with. If it were your friend who was in involved in a senseless act that he/she was not a part of, would you judge them?

As for your "undergrad" comment. Speak for yourself. Just because you graduated from college that mommy and daddy paid for and they pay for your rent to live in the popular and upcoming "Fed Hill," doesn't give you the right to bash on people that have been born and raised in this neighborhood. These aren't the values that I have been raised on by living in this neighborhood. So if you want to continue with your snide comments and pretend like this victim "deserved what he got," then you DON'T BELONG HERE!

2008 FBI Crime Stats:

Northeast U.S.

Murder, Types of Weapons Used

Firearms 62.8%

Knives or Cutting Instruments 18.1%

U.S. as a whole:

Firearms 66.9%

Knives or cutting instruments 13.4%

Unknown or other dangerous weapons 13.7%

Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.) 6.1%

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_07.html

Wow. You pieces of trash from South Baltimore celebrate a stabbing like it was your birthday. The total of these comments probably represents the most you people have ever read in your entire lives. While the stabbing is tragic, it's entirely to be expected in situations involving rowdy drunks from that neighborhood. I moved into Federal Hill...not South Baltimore. I am so glad that the civic association will soon be voting to change the name of the neighborhood to McHenry's Landing...maybe a name change will be just the thing to convince this local trash to move out!

:) Did you miss 3rd and 4th grade or are you writing in some sort of white ebonics?

So he got what he deserved...how can one say that or even think that, no one deserves to be stabbed, shot, beaten, etc...Everyone seems to say blame this person or blame that place blah blah blah...if you were really concerned citizens and cared about the violence in the streets of Baltimore than you as concerned citizens and as a community would be out there helping clean those streets up instead of hiding behind a computer and saying what your concerns are about. Blame yourselves for not being so concerned. Baltimore will never change due to the morons that live there. I think you really like the drama scene and the attention that the city gets or you would not be in Baltimore.

Chaz, thanks for realizing that some of the behavior was wrong. I can't wait until next year.

Wow. Dave M.: "... Polish ... an ethnicity of a people that have trouble making it through the morning without a drink."

Care to explain the basis for this ethnic slur? Be sure to forward your comments to Senator Mikulski, or better yet, come down to Polish Village and enlighten us unintelligent immigrants in person.

While you're at it, how about sharing with us your esteemed pedigree?

Have fun in Federal Hill.

Excuse me Dave. But if you have enough sense to look on a map, you do live in South Baltimore. Before there were yuppies like you moving to "Federal Hill," EVERYONE referred to it as SOUTH BALTIMORE.

And you do NOT know ANY of these people. Half the people from the bar crawl were from "Federal Hill." Or as we, unintellgent, drunk Locust Pointer's have said for the past, I dunno, 50 years, "Up the Hill."

As for myself, Kazmierski and Klemkowski are my friends. and if it weren't for our families moving to LP years ago, you would never have even considered to move down here.

And as a side note, I am under the age of 25 currently working on my second degree. So speak for yourself that we are all unintelligent people.

I am not one to comment on these blogs, but have been appalled to read what people about a place that I call home.

To Dave M: First of all, nobody is celebrating anything. A man was stabbed and people are upset by it. I don't know about you but I'm proud of where I come from. Obviously you're not because you moved from wherever that was to come to LOCUST POINT. It's really sad that you can take something as serious as a man being stabbed and turn it into a opportunity to talk down on people. And we from South Baltimore are the ignorant ones? It's because of people like you that fights in bars happen because you feel like you're better than everyone else. I love the stereotyping too, from a man who tries to come off as educated. I guess unless you wear khakis and a tie to work everyday then you're not supposed to live in south baltimore anymore.This neighborhod was built on hard working MEN that supported their families. I dont know how old you are but I would hardly call you a man. You're a joke

let the record reflect that i am on no team, nor do i care for such activities. if i did, i think i could cough up the 20 or 40 dollars it takes each person to be on a team without a pub crawl. Also, let the record reflect that I LOVE bar crawls. I would like to keep bar crawls going, with that said... if these local bars want to continue to be apart of the neighborhood, then they need to do something to contain the drunkeness. i.e. security (esp if they are expecting a crowd), Except for an altercation a couple weeks ago, you don't hear/ see people getting stabbed on cross st. Maybe the same attention to detail and security can be followed at such places as TAPS, which btw barely has any more taps then any other bar around.

white trash = no trust fund, blue collar work, loud drunk.

yuppie= born with a silver spoon, parent-paid college education, stuck up, jerkoff.

white trash sounds good to me.

I attended the bar crawl to support the South Baltimore Hitmen. I work full time and attend college part time currently pursuing my bachelor's degree along with 4 of my girlfriends who all attended the bar crawl. None of us are or were formally South Baltimore residents. After reading these comments I find it astounding that I am now considered "white trash". You residents that are in such an uproar regarding this bar crawl are categorizing all of the attendees by the actions of ONE individual. I would most definitely clean up the streets of Baltimore for a fundraiser for these men because the entire purpose of this bar crawl was to raise money for their team. Regardless of the event that was planned we were there in support of them. I too carried my unfinished beers from one bar to the next PLACING IT IN THE TRASH when I finished drinking it. I never once threw a bottle or even sat one on the ground. You are continuing to group all of the individuals that attended the bar crawl into the same stereotype. I hope that over the next few weeks you have this much to say about the St. Patrick’s Day bar crawls that will take place in both federal hill and canton. Maybe we should come back and do another one up and down Ft. Avenue. This way we can see if you can pick me out of a crowd without my bar crawl shirt on since we are all apparently “white trash”.
Furthermore it amazes me that these comments are regarding the fact that we were “loud and obnoxious” OUTSIDE on the street. Get out of your beach chair on your front stoop and do something with your life instead of judging us for how we live ours, especially when you have no idea who you are referring to.
Let’s not forget that a man was stabbed here. Let’s not forget that a close personal friend of mine almost lost his life for choosing NOT to be white trash and stopping a physical altercation. Let’s not forget that a 3 year old boy could have lost his father who plays a HUGE role in his life.
Continue blaming the younger generation on the problems in the city, don’t forget you’re the ones that raised us!

Have you ever noticed that whenever you meet someone who is smart, educated and enlightened in matters beyond beer, bars, and Ravens they are almost always NOT originally from Bmore?

Bmore's new slogan: Baltimore-hey, at least we're not Detroit!

Hard working families who built the neighborhood? What a joke! I hardly think sitting on the waterfront and collecting a paycheck for doing nothing is hard working. Neither is sitting on a barstool collecting unemployment, which seems to be the present occupation of most of the trash from the neighborhood. I wish your ancestors never learned the English language, then maybe I could avoid the drivel you mongrels post on this comment section. My dachshund behaves better than you. We treat our dog park better than you "locals" treat your own neighborhood. I'm sorry, but I refuse to let McHenry's Landing become little Pigtown with all of the dope fiends doing bar crawls. You are all trash!

Amen Bar Crawler #156

Well spoken for someone grouped in with the rest of us unintelligent people that live in SoBo. I am one to believe that these individuals most likely live at home with their parents or lived with them until the age of 30. When they finally graduated they moved to Fed Hill aka SoBo to enjoy the good life they so eagerly talk down upon. Ten to One they are one of the bar crawlers for St. Patty's day. It's funny how that works. Ps...Dave M. I too live in Fed Hill im younger than 30 and I own my home, do you?

Aside from all of the great points made by the friends of this man and bar crawlers, I would just like to point out the fact that while yes there are other ways that the football team could have raised money, they chose the a way that could raise the most money possible, which was very smart. I did not attend the bar crawl, but I see nothing wrong with using a well known popular way to raise money and have a fun time as well. I can guarantee that most of the people on here passing judgement have been drunk and rowdy a time or two in their lives. These guys aren't claiming to be saints raising money for some charity, I applaud them for organizing the football team for young men in the first place. And kudos to them for bringing revenue to our local businesses. I hope to see many more bar crawls and having more security during these events is a great suggestion. Having been born and raised in Locust Point and living "up the hill", I am far from "white trash" and I take a huge offense to that as my family is a big part of locust point and I was raised very well. The fact is that a young, wonderful, hard working, decent man could have lost his life, and he did absolutely nothing to deserve this, and it is useless to place blame on so many things when the blame is on one person who has absolutely nothing to do with the neighborhood.

Dave M...I would love for you to stand up at a civic association meeting and make these comments, people like you make the people that moved into the neighborhood and are decent and non-judgmental look very bad. If this is how you feel, then please express these opinions at the next meeting. Makes me very sad to think that my children could possibly be raised in a neighborhood with people like you.

Locust Point will never be McHenry's Landing!!

Dave, why did you ever move to SOUTH BALTIMORE if you were ashamed of your neighbors?!?!Maybe you should move back to where you came from, where your racist slurs are acceptable.

I have to say this has been one of the most disappointing threads I have ever read on this site. I moved to Federal Hill / SOBO and we own our house. I did go to college and I know personally Chaz and Joe. I would not consider them good friends but I know they are good people who tried to help out their team on Saturday and certainly never asked to be put into a battle over their heritage or work ethic. I met them through another friend who moved himself into the area, and instead of thinking he was too high to know anyone who grew up here assimilated himself into the neighborhood. This is the way neighborhoods grow. Neither of them deserve the personal attacks thrust upon them here, they have merely come on to defend themselves and keep the attention on the fact that someone tried to KILL their friend for no other reason than breaking up a fight. If organizing a fundraiser to try and make money for their team is a poor idea, I am just not sure what world we live in. No where in that Bar Crawl does it say that you have to drink yourself to the point of sickness, and they are no more responsible for the actions of the people on the Crawl than the bars are for drunk drivers or the usual commotion at 2am in Federal Hill. Keep the Focus, one man tried to end another man's life at 7pm at night for the egregious act of breaking up a fight. Everything else is a distraction.

Loud noise and bar crawls are nothing new along Fort Ave. Sadly, one point that is lost in this situation is that I would rather not explain to my 3 year old why someone is bleeding onto the sidewalk outside of my neighborhood convenience store. Riverside doesn't normally experience this type of violence but an occasional incident like this doesn't help to improve Baltimore's image as a violent place. I was in Hogan's at 7 and though it was loud, I certainly didn't expect to see it in the monday morning crime report. Leave the violent drunken behavior elsewhere and enjoy the walk down Fort Ave like most of us do.

Whats the difference between a bar crawl and a riot. From Wikipedia: A riot is a form of civil disorder characterized by disorganized groups lashing out in a sudden and intense rash of violence against people or property. While individuals may attempt to lead or control a riot, riots are typically chaotic and exhibit herd behavior. What ever happened to selling gummy bears!

just checked out the pending criminal case on line --watch out for the big girls--

I don't live in the city and never will. But I have been watching this thread and can say that it you all should move out of the city for a long vacation. You are wound way way too tight.
From a guy getting non-life threatening wounds to illiterate Polish immigrants and renaming Southy by spoon fed yuppies who may or may not have trust funds and apparently won't meet up for a fight. Relax you didn't get stabbed, it may have been one if you or your neighbors that did the stabbing, but for sure your machismo doesn't matter here or on the street. If it did you wouldn't be playing flag football.

Now get a vodka and cranberry and make up. It's a small city, it's you against the criminals.

I just don't see the productiveness of calling each other white trash and yuppies. Fed Hill/South Baltimore has a great collection of diverse backgrounds and interests, all lumped into one small area. Whether you call your 21230 address Fed Hill or South Baltimore is completely inconsequential. Growing up in the suburbs doesn't make you better and growing up in a working class neighborhood doesn't mean that you're a harder worker. Some asians are good drivers and some black guys can't jump. These generalizations are keeping us from solving the real problems. There is no reason for someone to be stabbed on our streets. I don't care if he was in a bar crawl or murdering kittens. Any other talk is just useless. Thank God he will be ok.

Wow, Dave. Really? Why did you move here then Dave? It must have been appealing in some fashion? Yes, Locust Point along with many parts of "South Baltimore" have now been occupied by so-called "yuppies" from out-of-state/city regions. However, I favor having them in Locust Point and appreciate them as an original South Baltimorean. Many took it upon themselves to help my parents when I was away during the blizzard this year. Thank you to all that helped! Now to you, Dave...
My highly responsible, Polish parents take honor in the life and Locust Point neighborhood they have created for themselves. The same neighborhood that you have found soo appealing that it forced you to either rent or own a home in this wonderful community. The disrespect with such a generalizing comment is a slap in their face and many others like them. I suggest you leave this town ASAP. One thing about SB, my so-called neighbor, is that people will know all about these comments by night's end...hope they don't discover your identity, for your sake!

I didn't attend the bar crawl but I was born & raised in South Baltimore and happen to live on Fort Avenue. I have friends & family that did attend the event. What happened to Mike was an isolated incident & very sad. He didn't deserve it & shame on those outsiders saying otherwise. I take offense to the comments attacking the wonderful families that make our neighborhood so great. My advice to all the haters, take the time to get a copy and read "That's My Point Reflections From Baltimore's Locust Point Neighborhood" written by Joseph Michael Kelly. He is a well educated boy from the neighborhood that went to college, got a degree, is a great family man & is proud of his South Baltimore heritage.

FYI, Federal Hill IS part of South Baltimore. Even CHERRY HILL is a part of South Baltimore. People are acting like this ISN'T Baltimore and this kind of stuff DOESN'T happen. Yeah, we are supposed to live in the "better" part of the city but this sh*t can happen ANYWHERE. All you yuppie idiots who moved into the neighborhood, because it was the "in" thing to do, can kiss my born and bred South Baltimorean a**.

i'm not going to let some Brooklyn/Curtis Bay scum detract from our McHenry's Landing community and movement. The bar crawl isn't that bad as long as they keep those ghetto trash bags of Brooklyn and Curtis Bay out of McL.

After speaking with the former Mayor and also future leader of McHenry's Landing Terry Hickey both being a diligent force in getting our dog park for a growing canine community, she affirmed me that the new zoning should take place in 2011 regarding renaming the Peninsula known as 'The Point' to McHenry's Landing. Something that sounds much more regal than LP.

To me this is nonsense and 25 year old father nearly lost his life. Mike Kooser is my best friend and we both play for the Hitmen. Now besides all this goofyness, this was the best way to get our team name out there and have a productive fund raiser. We didnt wake up thinking about anyone being stabbed or any fights breaking out but it happened. People need to move on and mind their own business and wonder how Mike is not make dumb racist comments. This being said the team is truely sorry we have brought this on our selves, South Baltimore and the bars. But whats done is done all we can do is hope for justice and that the man that did this act is caught.

I was born in South Baltimore about 50 years ago and spent most of my young life on those corners & when legal drinking age, in that Pub. (Cox's) at that time.. I never seen or heard of anything like this happening in my days there! It was illegal to be in Public while intoxicated... I realize that raising $ is important, not at the expense of Alcohol & Drug related activities to raise it!! Drunks are unpredictable & emotional and Alcohol consumption should never be the sport in which chairity would benifit! That's pure blood money now!! Violence always rears it's ugly head when alcohol is added to ignorance! Find another way to raise money for your team other then crawling down Fort Ave DRUNK & DISORDERLY!!! It's illegal anyway!!

So the verdict is some dummy stabbed a guy that was part of a group of obnoxious drunks. A stabbing is never okay.

However, about the Detroit comment idiot. In Detroit, the guy would have been killed. On the other hand, you wouldn't have a group of idiots acting so obnoxious knowing getting shot is a real possibility. Looks like people need to check themselves - or as someone else stated police your own group (which also includes bar crawls with responsible adults at bars in safe neighborhoods).

...and Justin, stop defending yourself. You are doing a fine job disseminating information as it comes in. If people don't want info on the fly, they can wait until 11pm news where they play it safe. Thanks for keeping it honest and interesting.

ugh reading the comments made by yuppies living in this neighborhood makes me so upset. they consider us "white trash" really? we were born & raised here. changing the name is not going to do anything! our families will be here for generations to come and if for all who have all these negative comments about those tha...t live in our neighborhood then move! our families are what made this neighborhood what it is today!

Wow, Dave. Really? Why did you move here then Dave? It must have been appealing in some fashion? Yes, Locust Point along with many parts of "South Baltimore" have now been occupied by so-called "yuppies" from out-of-state/city regions. However, I favor having them in Locust Point and appreciate them as an original South Baltimorean. Many took it upon themselves to help my parents when I was away during the blizzard this year. Thank you to all that helped! Now to you, Dave
My highly responsible, Polish parents take honor in the life and Locust Point neighborhood they have created for themselves. The same neighborhood that you have found soo appealing that it forced you to either rent or own a home in this wonderful community. The disrespect with such a generalizing comment is a slap in their face and many others like them. I suggest you leave this town ASAP. One thing about SB, my so-called neighbor, is that people will know all about these comments by night's end...hope they don't discover your identity, for your sake!

if i may make a comment here, the victim was the one that started the fight with the females by calling them names. they were talkin to another person about their friend that got beat up earlier, and the stab victim was standing behind the other guy, and he started running his mouth to the females...i think a whole lot of people shud get their facts straight before making assumptions..I am sorry that it happened, and its a shame that it did...but lets not put all the blame on the other people and the ones that are to blame shud stand up and take responsibility for their actions including the victim. He was at fault as well as far as the fight goes, no, he shud not have been stabbed in the back. But he is responsible for the fight just as much as the others, and he shud really own up to that..thats all i got to say on the matter...hope i didnt ruffle any feathers, just speaking my mind....and i know the facts..

To Dave M,

You know it's funny you talk about those Sobo Pollacks, at least they sign the post with their last name. I don't see your last name on your post!

Arguing on the internet? Just don't respond to the trolls people.

South Baltimore has its good points and its bad points. I love living here and I hope my neighbors have a similar view.

We can work together to make it even better.

To Anonymous: I have to say you must not be from SoBo because though some can not spell I havent seen anyone spell "SHOULD" or in your words "Shud" so badly. I think the reason for why the fight started was pointless. It's sad that name calling has turned into a stabbing. These woman are not "young woman" as both of them are 30 or pretty close to it. I would not call them Adults in anyway either. You say that name calling is what caused the fight and the stabbing but as a parent I dont send my children to school with knives to defend a wound that came from someones verbal comments. I mean really how old are you people? Name calling never justifies a stabbing. You say you are "sorry that it happened" yet you defend and make comments about why it happened. I think these women were childish for getting in an uproar over being called names. I sure hope this isnt a behavior that they teach their children. What the victim did or didnt say is irrelevant, his actions did not almost cost these woman or the man who stabbed him their lives. When words become so lethal or even nearly as lethal as stab wounds then your "taking responsibility" theory will play out until then let's not add to the street violence over he said she said. It's time to grow up people....a majority of you have children and I must say you sure are setting such a fantastic example for them.

everyone needs to drop all of this blaming and calling each other names and remember there is a guy who is still on the looose running around with a knife and is not afraid to use it. The longer he is out there the more likely he can do someone else harm or maybe even kill someone. So buck up and shut up. The victim was defending himself when the guy stabbed him in his back and ran away from the scene and is still out there somewhere in the city. You should all be worried about what he is going to do next and show respect for the single father who almost came close to losing his life for standing up for someone else.

There will be a South Baltimore Neighborhood Association neighborhood meeting tonight at the corner of Fort Avenue and Charles Street, across from Taps Baltimore. If you want to speak up about this incident, this will be a good time and place to talk about what happened instead of arguing about it over the internet. The meeting starts at 7pm I hope that everybody can make it.

Okay really now i think everyone should just give up this whole arguing over the internet thing is really juvinile. And really how did a bar crawl that may or may not have had locust pointers in it bring something iup when people are throwing aroung racial slurs....really people? Get off here and get a life! The gentle men who got stabbed is ok and thats what this what about not a neighorbood battle so grow up and move on!

Now my Melvin didn't come home last night! Holy Moley!

I had a stack of slacks as high as my storm door for him to hem too. If one of you Hitmen did something to my Melvin I am gonna put a pair of shoes on my fred flintstones and get my teeth out of their soaking tub in the zinc.
I'll wait a little while longer. I'll just stare out of my window like an old CREEPER and listen to my po-lease scanner!

this is just what happens when all yous liberals drive each other crazy. i aint seen the guy get stabbed but he probly said something bad about yous guys hero HUSSEIN OSAMA and ats why he got stabbed. it was only a matter of time WAKE UP PEOPLE. sound off

Seriously, when is this going to end. No one has made a point yet. Everyone is acting like this is the first stabbing in Baltimore, why because it happened after a bar crawl. You all really need to get a life and mind your own business and pray that something like this does not happen to you or someone you care about. What would you say than...It's good to know Mike is doing well.

It's truly amazing how the stabbing of a local man can throw everyone off topic about who's who in the neighborhood. No one deserves to get attacked the way Mike was attacked regardless of who started what and who said what. I reside in South Baltimore and have been here my entire life. We're not a crime ridden neighborhood, we don't have white thugs strewn about the streets. The type of incident that happened is few and far between in our area.

I am offended by the comments stating that South Baltimore is white trash. Every neighborhood has a group of "bad apples" but the locals shouldn't be judged by the bad decisions and the lifestyle those people choose to lead. My family was one of the biggest in the Locust Point area and grew up with some of the people on this thread and I stand by these people and their families who are hard working individuals who wouldn't even consider picking up a welfare check.

Dave M. I don't know where you come from but it's a shame to see that you were raised with such closed minded ignorance.

I was born & raised in SOUTH BALTIMORE. I managed & worked @ "LUSH'S BAR" on Cross St. for 25 yr's. Back in the day there were called BICYCLE BEER RACE'S
(riding a bike from bar to bar) up & down Fort Ave. The only voilence was the particepants riding into one another as they tried to get into the bar to drink a beer & run back to the bike & hit the next bar.it is ashame that Mr. Kooser was stabbed for no apprent reason. I hope that he recovers steadly.It makes me angry when people that say the CITY is a BAD place. WELL guess what CRIME HAS NO BOUNDRIES & HAPPEN EVERY WHERE.My son lives in my house in the 1500 block of COVINGTON ST. this kind of incident does not happen, YES there might be a fight/argument from BAR patrons now & then....but NOT STABBINGS. Just because it was a BAR related event doesnt mean that ALL PUB CRWLS are bad. A simular incident could happen at a childrens baseball game (or event). People just need to get along & live together with out all the petty stuff & GROW UP.
IF YOU DONT LIKE TH CITY DONT MOVE THERE. THERE ARE STILL RESIDENTS that have lived there & will remain untill they die there GOOD FOR THEM...BOUTH BALTIMORE IS A GREAT COMMUNITY & DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE TRASHED VERBLY BY PEOPLE THAT JUST DONT LIKE THE CITY.

Anita (Tudor) Anzulis-Dwyer

Ms. Wheatsie....

We have your Melvin. We have taken him in an attempt to further disgrace the name of the Hitmen, and to abolish bar crawls forever. Our father skinned his knee in a bicycle bar crawl in 72, and was never able to walk the same. It is our hope that the disappearance of your beloved Melvin will continue to fuel the Fed Hill Yuppie/Sobo Thug fued, and eventually start a neighborhood civil war, thus ensuring city-wide chaos, and finally putting an end to the evil bar crawl.

If you want to see your Melvin again, and put an end to our diabolical plan, bring 6 pairs of finely hemmed pants, size 32 and khaki in color, to the alley behind Hilltop at 10:00 pm tonight. They are our father's favorite pants, and the only thing that can erase his years of chronic knee pain.

Come alone...and tell no one.

I guess I would be considered a "yuppie" (went to private high school and private college and then bought a house SoBo), but I now have a lot friends that are native to South Baltimore (some of whom have posted to this blog) and almost all are of Polish descent. Time after time my wife and I have been invited to their homes for cookouts and other parties and it's very unfair and quite insulting to label them as anything other than good, generous folks. In fact, I play on a summer softball team in SoBo that is 50% "yuppies" and 50% South Baltimore natives and we have done our fair share of partying TOGETHER without incident. So everyone calm down. And most importantly I'm glad the victim will be OK.

The only verbal trashing happening here is the grammatical assault you local idiots are imposing on the English language. Sweet lord. This is why I'll be sending my child to school in the county and not to Francis Scott Key. You're obviously all intoxicated or on drugs when you post these comments, thus vindicating the earlier points about your mongrel, inebriated ethnicity. Especially Anita. Your complete lack of command over the English language as demonstrated by your comment is like the cherry on a white trash sundae. All of you should be ashamed. You've turned my neighborhood into a scene from Mad Max. Fort Avenue is an apocalyptic wasteland.

Oh Jesus Christ Almighty!!!, I can't believe my Melvin was adult-napped!
Did you give him a multi-vitamin and his fiber pills this morning? Melvin gets awful cranky when he gets irregular. He gets crazier than Dawn Zoon around Billy Peacock when he is gassy.

He likes grilled cheese in the shape of Christmas trees for lunch. I use my old cookie cutters I got from the Saint Mary's Christmas bizarre in 1978. Or was it the German Church?, anyway.

You better take care of my Melvin until tonight. I'll be there you SOB's but you put me in a real pickle with these pants. Would you settle for white wedding dress that Sandy Howard never picked up?

To all the Yuppies: I apecialize in making the crotches smaller in Dockers chino khakis. Ms. Wheatsie has been with a few of the yuppies in the neighborhood and I have moles longer than their peckers.

Melvin hang on to your seatsie, cus here comes Mom-Mom Wheatsie!!!!!

I'm a born and bred county boy. My parents helped me get into college, they bought me my first car, hell I even have a "white-collar" job. However, I have gotten to know a lot of these "white-trash" Polocks. Dave M- you must be thinking I’m living your nightmare...but nothing could be further from the truth. I wound up having a child with my girlfriend (whose entire family has lived on Fort Ave. for 150+ years) and I know that I could not have been luckier to be associated with such a great family, and community for that matter. Most families that have lived down the point, have made their living, not only as long-shore man, but also by protecting and serving the community (maybe even being called on to save your educated behind sometime in the future) and unlike you, they won’t ask if your name ends with -ski or any other ethnically identifiable suffix before they treat you. I love my family, but I have never met families as hard working as the ones who reside in South Baltimore. Take the time to get to know the neighbors around you. In a short time (around 2 years) I have developed many solid friendships with the residents and am proud to say that it’s because of the friendliness and camaraderie of the community, that I hope to be a South Baltimore resident myself someday. There are bad apples in every community and rung on the social ladder. I pray that you (Dave M.) or any other person that shares your view gets no say in trying to "re-name" or change this great little reminder of what Baltimore was founded upon. Besides without all the damn Polski's where would our sausages be for Tailgating Ravens games? Chaz and the Hitmen---you guys are great and deserve none of this negative press. And most importantly, Kooser get well soon!

Ms. Wheatsie,

Our patience is growing thin with you. We are willing to give him the multi-vitamin and fiber pills. We are even willing to compromise on the grilled cheese sandwiches. We do not have these christmas tree cookie cutters you speak of, but we were able to find cutters in the shape of a star. I hope this is adequate for your precious Melvin. However, NO DICE ON THE DRESS!

Our father has no need for a wedding dress. For your defiance, we now ask for 12 pairs of finely hemmed pants, and also this crotch altering you mentioned. You see, when our father turned into a yuppie, he lost much size to his genitalia. This is not a negotiation, this is a DEMAND. And if our demands are not met, we will start showing Melvin PG-13 movies. Filling his head with violence, vulgar language, brief nudity, adult activities and other elements. Your little Melvin will never be the same again.

10:00 pm, and not a second later...or else.

Hey Dave just who in the hell do you think your are bringing an unfortunate stabbing to everyone's attention with your unorthodox remarks? Focus should be on the victim & catching his attackers. I find offense to your remarks regarding the GOOD PEOPLE of LOCUST POINT & their ancestral heritage. I am a PROUD 4th generation descendant of POLISH immigrants who were welcomed into LOCUST POINT at the foot of Hull St. We are a family of hard-working, well-educated, degree bearing people who are proud of our community called LOCUST POINT. It's obvious that you are geographically ignorant since the stabbing (of an innocent victim) took place in your neighborhood Dave..."Up the Hill" aka Federal Hill. This horific incident was initiated by people from neither LP or FH. But by an "outsider" like you Dave. As far as changing the name of Locust Point, it will NEVER HAPPEN, but kicking your pompous ass out of town is doable!

My girlfriend & I drove down Fort Ave around 3 pm on Saturday, when out of nowhere a group of these morons ran out into the road without even looking. We would have hit one obviously drunk troglodyte if it were not for my girlfriends quick reaction. Instead of being apologetic for such a bone-headed move, the said Mensa member made an obscene gesture to her; followed by an array of middle-fingers from a pack of deliciously white trash girls who hadn’t got the news that that silver lip-stick and Pat Benatar haircuts were no longer in nor had they discovered the miracles of P90X yet. I am not saying stabbing someone is justified but I get the feeling that these people created their own problems.

Sigh...I'm so furious I live among you all. I paid $75,000 for my education! Did I mention that I am a complete tool?

I don't know what Alcohol related argument caused this man to be assaulted in this manner.. I do know that a group of adults having a "Pub-crawl" or traveling E. Fort Ave. under the inducement of Alcohol is trouble waiting to happen! Public intoxication is illegal and should not be used as a means to raise money for anything! Its just a calamity of altered personalities due to Alcohol intoxication.. As some may view this event as "Fun' ? I know a few people in Jail or the Hospital that wish they had stayed home that day! We had events such as the Bicycle Beer Race, however, it was a competition not "Fundraiser" for a cause that should probably be "Self-Supporting" ... Lets raise some money for the research of cures for Cancer or Heart-Disease?? I'll drink to that! And anyway, I'm from South-Baltimore... What the heck is "Flag-Football' ? Is that even a sport ?

Ok, ok, you win Hitmen. Ms. Wheatsie is throwing in the towel.
I beg you please don't show my Melvin any of that erotica they put on TV these days. Last time I mussed up and he saw a preview for dem Desparate Housewives...He stole my jar of foot-cream and locked himself in the bathroom for 4 hours.

This is a cry for help to all my fellow South Baltimorons!!

Ms. Wheatsie is organizing a last minute "Give Melvin a Chance, Give Wheatsie Your Pants" Pub Crawl to save my Melvin. Please wear a pair of size 32 khakis to Lime bar starting at 7:00. We will make our way to Hilltop and I will need to collect all the pants. Please don't invite anyone from Curtis bay, I don't want any holes stabbed in these khakis. Try not to be too loud to wake the Yuppy neighbors who apparently busy healing people with cancer in their living rooms. Also, if you have a college diploma, please bring it and carry it along with you. Apparently a college diploma separates you from the rest of the Sobo trash!

Wheatsie is coming Melvin!!!!

Ms. Wheatsie,

I feel you are mocking us. The reason behind our actions is to eliminate pub crawls, not promote them! And you insult us further by trying to give our father used pants! If this is some sort of Tom Foolery, I can assure you we do not take your jokes lightly. We are a force to be reckoned with!

If by 10:01 pm we have not received the full order of finely hemmed, crotch adjusted pants, we shall start plucking Melvin's nose hairs out, one by one. Once the nasal hair is completely removed, potentially harmful particles can be easily transported into his respiratory system. As we know you are well aware of, Melvin suffers from many allergies, meaning this could prove to be quite lethal.

You have been warned....

Many years before people started spending $300,000 on a $100,000 house, this part of town was called ''South Baltimore''. The children of the neighborhood grew up together. We played on the same little league teams. We went to the 84 Rec Dances. We walked to school together.

At some point, the area became known as ''Federal Hill'' and the community became separated. No longer do you see kids playing in Riverside Park. No longer are kids looked a as the future of the community. In fact, it seems as if people in ''Federal Hill'' are not even having kids.

I know many of the people who attended this bar crawl, and by no means are they ''thugs''. They are mothers and fathers. They are in some cases college graduates. They are hard working citizens of Baltimore City. They are people that you can call ''friends''.

So many times, we are quick to judge because of what we see on the outside, and don't take the time to see a person for who they really are.

Just because a person is dressed with baggie pants and a loose tshirt doesn't make them a thug. Yes, we may dress differently than the yuppies that have taken over our neighborhood. We may not speak with the vast vocabulary as most. We may not always show high class etiquette at all times. But let's clear one thing up...

You moved to South Baltimore. Not Federal Hill. Federal Hill is a park, not a neighborhood.

South Baltimore is a blue collar neighborhood where generations grew up raising families. South Baltimore is a tightly knitted community where if you say someone's last name, the Six Degrees of South Baltimore will have reminiscing about your friend's from the old days. This is South Baltimore... This is our home.

The fact that a young father was stabbed is a very sad thing. It is sad that it had to happen on a day where many friends came together to donate for a football team that has created unbreakable friendships and has put a positive image out there for many younger kids. But the saddest thing is the way that my friends were portrayed.

I could understand if it was one of the participants involved in a drunk driving accident. But it wasn't. This was a young man who was walking and was attacked by three people, and nearly killed.

What about the ''Federal Hill'' yuppies who carry beer bottles down to the Ravens game? Or how they roll down in their ''gangs'' to Mothers Purple Patio or Cross St. Festivals? Are you naive enough to think that nobody gets into a fight with those events?

It is very easy to point fingers at those who act or dress differently for this gives you not only something to talk about, but it makes you feel better about the things that you do wrong.

Don't pass judgement, Federal Hill. Us South Baltimore folks are really no different than you are. Since you did overspend on for your $300,000 house, you may want to go and get yourself a $20 mirror. I think you may need to give yourself a reality check.

What information do they have on the attacker? It lists he is 35 years old,so if they know that, what else do they know? And if they know more why isn't that information available.
I'm also wondering if the women weren't with the attacker, but were fighting with the victim but didn't actually stab him, why are they being charged as if they are the ones who actually did the stabbing?

Mr. Curious - don't have a lot of information on him. As you can see from the updates throughout the day yesterday, it was like pulling teeth to get the most basic information confirmed from police (as it is today again with the beating of the 2-year-old boy). They've got a warrant out for the main suspect and hopefully we'll find out when he's charged. We'll update here when that happens. As for why the serious charges on the women, they tend to charge everything they can at the outset, and things fall into place as the process moves along. -Justin

to Are you kidding me....i just want to let you know, that the blame goes all the way around..not just on the ladies...and were you there? if not, you dont know what really happened and your only going by hearsay..i know what happened, the whole truth..so dont comment on me if you dont know what your talking about...DID I MISSPELL ANY WORDS THIS TIME?

For the record, I don’t care where you currently live, what your ethnic background is, where (or if) you went to college or what you or your parents may (or may not) do for a living. I also don’t care if you were wearing a Snuggie or Hitmen t-shirt. My issue is with personal accountability, or more specifically, lack thereof. What gives anyone the right to drink as much as they want, drunkenly stumble into city streets screaming obscenities while dropping, leaving or breaking glass bottles at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon (or any time of day or night, for that matter), and expect there won’t be any consequences for your actions? Fort Ave is littered with beer bottles right now. I don't know if they're from one pub crawl or the other, or even left over from tailgate parties before a Ravens game. It doesn't matter. Take some pride in yourself and in your community.

Whether there were 100 or 1,000 people participating, if 10 of them behaved badly, then that’s the impression that will be left on the minds of the residents. If only “a few people” are responsible for the bad behavior, then why don’t you as a member of the group or crawl, and I’m assuming more importantly, their friend, tell them to quiet down, suggest drinking a water rather than another beer at the next stop and/or pick up the bottle they dropped? A few less beers and one or two relatively sober participants might have prevented anything from happening on Saturday. Who knows???

Thank you Justin. That makes sense about the charges the woman recieved. It must be hard to get all the information when even the people who were there don't seem to know. Good job though.

So not really knowing how this works, if there is a warrant out then does that mean they have his information? Or can they just have one out regardless if they have a suspect or not?

Yeah, they know who he is. The warrant means he's been charged and when they find him he'll get arrested on those charges. -Justin

Amen, Kris! Couldn't have said it better. Mike, hope you get better soon!

I'm just happy to hear that the man who was stabbed is ok.

I don't think it's fair to blame all of South Baltimore or it's residents for one unfortunate incident.

I was there, I was with Mike when it happened. For people to say it was his fault and he was calling those childish girls names is completely false. He broke up a fight. That's it! The girls were just upset that someone they knew got beat up. They blamed Mike for it since he decided it was better to not throw a punch and stoop to their level and fight. He did the right thing. Because those girls are used to the ghetto lifestyle of acting like animals, they felt that Mike should have acted differently. The girls approached Mike after the fight, swinging at him and screaming at him. They followed him from the corner of Fort and Charles to Fort and Covington. Mike was trying to walk away from them. Then out of no where some random guy ran up and stabbed him FROM BEHIND! He was completely defenseless and by no means bring this upon himself. All of the other mess that people are writing on here is simply immature. YOU weren't there! YOU didn't see you friend badly injured for NO REASON! Thank God he is OK and he knows what really happens! BTW- I am proud to have grown up in SOUTH BALTIMORE. These are the people selling or doing drugs, they aren't the ones breaking into cars and homes. We just wanted to have a good time. If you don't like the people from the neighborhood then you should have never moved in!

Hello why is no one saying how Mike beat on two women!!! Yes they verbaly attacked him but does that give a 300 pound football player the right to beat down two feamles? Now because of a bunch of routy drunk jerks people are getting blamed for things they did not do. The person who they clamed did the stabing was not even in the area of the bar crawl. How can you reley on a bunch of grown men that have been drinking for 7 hrs straight to tell what happened. How many other fights occured that day? Quiet a few im sure of. Earley they stated they did'nt know the person now 2 days later they have all the answers bull crap. Soper up act like respectable adults poor mike poor Mike shouldnt have assulated 2 felamles he should have been the bigger person and walked away....

I ran into this group several times Saturday. A few times earlier in the day running errands and a few more at night, out with some friends. Obnoxious, rude, classless and drunk beyond words, there seemed to be not a bit of common sense in the whole group. It's not about how you dress or how much money you have, it's how you present yourself and how they presented themselves was, to be blunt, trashy and sad. I have definitely never had any run-ins with people like that in this area before and I hope they have the mind to go elsewhere where their violence and bad manners will be tolerated.

Who cares about Melvin, release him or throw im off the Hull street pier.
His brother was the best dj sobo has seen.!!

mike didn't hit any women? He did touch them and tried to walk away from them. There are several people who witnessed the ENTIRE event inlcuding myself. No one knows what these girls names are (at least not until it was in the press) but we all easily could pick them out in a croud. The same goes for the guy who stabbed him. If he wasn't in the area he sure is in the background of severl pictures from the bar crawl!

Taps is such a shat bar.

Hey ive got an idea
why dont we have a block party up Riverside park just like after the bicycle beer race
we could have a high noon and m&m djs reunion and get the peagans for security
sounds like a blast we will all meet at the stage coach in the bottum of the park to get this in motion

Hey man, I didnt see nothing!

All I have to say is...

Welcome to South Baltimore!

how much money does one have to raise to have a flag football team anyway?

league fees, a football, and 15 t-shirts can't cost that much.

Hey FREQUENT Bar Customer: since you don't live around here but drink here, would it be fair to assume you most likely hop in your car after a few beers to drive home? Just what we want... Drunks in cars instead of on foot!

I know nothing about what happened at the Pub Crawl my comments are directed at why good causes have bad endings...I was involved in the original organizing of the Great Ft. McHenry Bicycle Beer Races...this event was celebrated by the local SoBo community for many years...We donated all the monies made to the American Cancer Society 12,000,20,000 and in the last year 33,000 dollars...but this didin't stop people from running rampant in the neighborhood and destroying property and hurting other people...In what would have been our biggest year the 10th Annual the Police would not give us
support and the City refused our permit...My point is that we the people and participants cause our own problems...Rethink your priorities and maybe that cleanup crawl would work after all...Best Wishes and someone save Melvin.

To Anonymous: I was in Taps when the initial fight broke out. The fight that caused all of this, a fight the victim as I know him was not a participant in. In fact he was trying to break it up with the help of a female and another male individual that wore a bar crawl shirt. Secondly as I said words dont cut nearly as deep as a knife does. Not sure who you keep as company but I sure hope you hide your knives in the slightest chance that you offend them with words too. I dont just comment on things I have no clue about. I saw the fight when it went out to the sidewalk at Taps and the red headed bouncer stood in the door to make sure no one got in that was involved . Many of us watched out the side window as all of this went on. I know quite a bit . I also know that the man that is accused of stabbing the victim was not an attacker nor was he attacked in the fight. I however was not at the stabbing since at that time I decided I would continue on my journey, thankfully. So for someone not knowing facts I clearly know enough to still believe that name calling is not a reason to stab someone or a justification for doing so.

Besides that its not a matter for us to debate on a blog. I have complete faith in the law enforcement. I believe enough people witnessed this and that in the end the truth will come out and clearly it wont be over a blog. I am just thankful that the victim survived. I wish him a speedy recovery. I hope this does not hurt the football teams reputation and they as a team can recover from this as well.

Bottom line is there is 3 sides to every story his theirs & the witness who were all extremley drunk I was also there & witnessed the whole thing for you to lie and say Mike never hit the females is a damn shame yes they had words and were yelling & yes they admited that they hit him first. For you to say he only pushed them away is a lie. Everyone is innocent untill proven guilty. They are grown women who took the full responsiblty for their actions don't act like Mike is a goddy goody he was involved in more then one fight that day. Yes the girls should have not hit him but he should have been the bigger man and walked away he hit both of those females the truth always comes out I guess that everyone in South Baltimore is lyeing that the hitman bar crawl were complete angels own up to your part.. Guess he feels its ok to hit a women is that what he is going to teach his son. Everyone will have their day in court. Bottom line people need to be responsible for there own actions so should he. If you are such a friend to him why did'nt you step in prior to the assult and help your friend be the bigger person & walk away? I would love to have seen his blood alchohol level right after the fight he was two sheets to the wind disrespecting everyone on the block. Its sad that the two women that were involved maned up & took responsiblty for their actions now is Mikes turn..... That was not the only fight in South Baltimore that night most of the fights that night were people from your goody goody group I guess thats a lie to. If you actually take the time to read all 115 of the posting on this site 85% of them are people complaning how disruptive and drunk your group was do everyone a favor start going somewhere else with this behavior. To many lifes are being torn apart over saturday night all the parties involved should own up to their actions I can not wait untill everyone has thier day in court. I guess all of you were sober bystanders who can go into a court house and lie under oath that Mike did nothing wrong. Remember you are under oath you to can be thrown in jail for giving false statements to the police. If I was you instead of lyeing & trying to cover mikes butt you should be learning a leasson from all of this look where it has gotten everyone instead of having a fun day out with friends and rasing money for a football team you are now involved in a bunch of bull crap that could have been prevented... Hitmen what a nice name for a group of educated grown responsible men that do nothing wrong.

Loving the Melvin stuff lolz...I come back just to read it and it definitely breaks up the debates. So glad that everyone has not lost their minds. I understand what happened was tragic but arguing back and forth is not solving anything. How did we get to the South Baltimore bashing? I have children and I love taking my children to the park there, everyone is so friendly and close knit. I remember living there as a child and it always amazes me when I go back and many of the families remain. Good for you LP, though much has changed the community seems just as close as I remember it.

My final thought will be that ...there is definitely more than one side to every story, with this I agree. I am not the individuals and I can not speak for them and I will not assume that anyone is an angel. As it is apparent that a small few (because clearly with over 200 people that attended all of them were not being ridiculous) can not tolerate their alcohol or had too much to drink period. I take from reading your comments that you know the others involved in this, namely the women that were arrested. It is just sad to read that "grown individuals" could resort to something so violent over something so petty and vice versa. I only hope that everyone involved and guilty in this mess learns a valuable lesson and that those that were not involved and just witnessed this crime even in their drunken state learn something from this too.

KMAN: Just wanted to respond to you, and not the other hoopla anymore. We actually pay an awful lot each year. We play all year long, 3 leagues and tournaments. Referee fees alone for a calender year cost us $1,600. League fees $1,200. Tournaments run roughly around $300 to get in, not to mention the ref fees for each game which are $52 a game. Uniforms $60 a jersey. We have 20 players on the team. Footballs for a good one cost $70 and up. Flags cost $35 a dozen. We go through about 4 dozen each season, because they rip and break. Right there alone not counting uniforms you are looking at $3,270. We only made enough from the crawl to cover one season.

You can not have a bar crawl in South Baltimore with out a fight and or Hilltop gyro being thrown. That is not the issue. My problem is people are not understanding the power of Curtis Bay's involvement. Unlike Old Bay, Curtis is good on nothing.

I went to school with Curtis as a child and he would only show up to infest the other kids with scabies and lice, pass off green crayola shavings as weed, and urinate next to the toilet. While Old Bay is great on crabs, Curtis just gives.....

Again, as I said, I support bar crawls, but with more tasteful people. We down here at the Peninsula are in the process of starting our own bar crawl.

We've got the paperwork going and we're going to need some funds to start up (which is being supported more and more by some local advocates) for our McHenry's Landing Homeowner Assoication. The McL HOA will definitely give a sense of new, polished, RESPECTED, pride to our neighborhood.

We're thinking of doing some of the new bars, well ones with less problems. Luca's is definitely on there as well as Rafter's and the Sly Fox Pub (loved the one in Annapolis!) We're definitely going to bypass dives like Paul (you can't get whatever smell they have out) and the increasingly thuggish and rough crowd at the Lime Bar.

We'll keep you updated in future ventures for McHenry's Landing.

ps. Sorry natives, but sometimes things change; names being one them!

Dave M.... let's not forget that you decide to move here.... the white trash that you speak of and our ancestors never asked you aor any of your yuppie friends to move here in the first place.... if you don't like it you are more than welcome to go back whereever it is you came from.... original south baltimore resident

JOIN THE GROUP:

If you don't live the name LOCUST POINT, then MOVE!:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=338673403093&ref=mf

Yeah John, sometimes things do change but NOT for the better! Plenty of people who come from Locust Point respect It and ARE respected. And we are PLENTY PROUD of being from LOCUST POINT. You and your cronies are the one with the problems, NOT the natives! Changing Locus Point's name isn't going to change anything about the neighborhood for the better. If anything, things might get worse because as soon as a sign goes up saying "McHenry's Landing," somebody - who could even be esteemed - will vandalize it.

Starspangledhood:

Vandalizing property? Just the type of thuggish behaviour I'd expect. How do you honestly think that makes you're ancestors look if they haven't raised decent enough people to respect others property?

There should be a website up soon. I'm doing some coordinating but getting it together.

Also, Tide Point went through an easy transition. I'm thinking McHenry's Landing will be the same.

Hey John,

It's funny, the three "nice" bars that you mentioned also participated in the last bar crawl that caused oh so many problems, as well as some of the "dive" bars. Maybe because instead of trying to seclude people and places of business, the organizers were open to anyone who wanted to join. Imagine that, being open minded about things instead of looking down on them. Try it sometime.

And as far as the name change. They were able to get over 200 people together for a bar crawl. Imagine how many people will come together when you talk about changing the name of the place they grew up and called home. See you at meeting.

y wuznt i invited. o naw

dont hate me cuz u aint me

no one get stabbed when dis hott azz around.

y aint i get invited!

Wow.. just wow. The main issue at hand is an innocent man being stabbed and nearly losing his life. Over what? Trying to break up a fight between some hoodrat hoes? It's appaling how quickly the conversation, or argument (however you choose to view it) moved to natives vs non-natives. It's absurd. In times of tragedy, that's when a sense of community should be stongest, and yet you're all verbally at each other's throats. It's as immature as yo-momma jokes. Everyone on here posting is an "adult".. act like one.

I've lived "down the Point", I've lived "up the Hill", and I now reside in Brooklyn. I've met respectable people everywhere. It's all South Baltimore. Violence, drugs and crime are everywhere, no matter what part of the city you live in. Just stating facts.

I work in LP, and I meet people from all walks of life everyday. Young, old, native, non-native, and they're all wonderful. Why can't we just see each other for who we really are? Just honest people trying to make an honest living while having fun in the meantime.

What happened to Mike on Saturday was upsetting to everyone in the community. My heart goes out to him and his family. I hope he makes a speedy and full recovery.

P.S. I know a handful of the Hitmen, and they're all hard-working, stand-up guys. All they wanted to do was raise money for their team and for everyone to have a good time. As a participant in the bar crawl, I had a great time and I hope the Hitmen, as well as the participating establishments, profited from this weekend's event.

Hey, I really don't care if you change the name or not. Personally, it's not really original at all...McHenry's Landing? Don't really understand the meaning except for McHenry's part, which is pretty lame. Why don't we call it "Yuppie Larvae Landing?" Sounds better to me...and it makes more sense.
Anyway, no matter what you or this civil association of band camp misfits do to the name, most of the community will still call it Locust Point and the Hill. OH YEAH. Good luck putting up the new sign. I give it a week until it is vandalized! AND THATS THE TRUTH!

I moved to SoBo about 5 years ago thanks to my best friend whom I've since lost to cancer. Prior to my moving to SoBo I would hang out with Jimmy in the local bars & had the pleasure to meet alot of very good people who are from the area. Kind hearted, hard working people who will give you the shirt off of their back. Neither Jimmy or I owned a car so every where we went we walked or rode some form of MTA. Seemed alot safer. A few too many and sure you stumble along but better than driving, huh ? On the day / night in question I did hear alot outside of my bedroom window. (I work nights / sleep days).Initially I was a lil' judgemental towards alla' this noise but then began to realize it was jealousy...I wished that I too could be out having fun with my friends. I was reawakened at about 6:45pm immediately after Mike K. was attacked to the sounds of his friends crying out for someone to help him. I witnessed them trying to find anything that they could to cover the wounds including their t~shirts. I said a prayer as I saw the detectives go into his area to question him in Trauma in hopes that he could give information needed. This was right on my street yet I feel safe because living in SoBo means living amongst friends & family. As far as the individuals throughout this thread who look down their noses as they type & stock their perrier water..Oh yes & want to give well established areas new names...move to Disney ! That should be a clean, censored paradise for you to enjoy !

Starspangledhood- great job! Threaten vandalism over a friggin' name. You just set your cauase back 20 years with an ignorant statement like that. I don't see people vandalizizing any "Riverside" sign. There are ways to get your point across without destroying property. Start by contacting your local representatives McHale, Reisinger. Cole or Della and write them a note explaining your opposition to the name. Go door to door and collect signatures of those who oppose the name. Personally I like the name SoBo, but I am not going to destroy property if I don't get my way. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I lived in SOBO for 4 years. Bartend at big fed hill/sobo bars. I would not consider the locals here white trash by any means. I am from harford county and we have PLENTY of white trash there. But to all of you SOBO long time residents... if it wasnt for all of these "yuppies" your homes would still be worth 25k like they were 10 years ago and not 250k like they are now. Both sides of this argument need to grow the F up. BOTH SIDES

Hey Ryan...if it wasn't for all the yuppies buying their homes at subprime mortgage rates and creating an inflated housing market bubble, the American economy would have never collapsed. Accordingly, yuppies are responsible for the recession. I'll take a moderately priced rowhome over inflated property value any day of the week.

DID YOU ALL MISS THE OBJECTIVE OF THE ARTICLE? I THINK THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT SOMEONE BEING STABBED. NOT ABOUT WHITE TRASH AND GHETTO THUGS.

I know Mike and i really can't believe that this has turned into being everything that it is not. This is not about who is from here and white trash people, and blah, blah, blah, this is about a father who almost lost his life!!! I feel you can go anywhere in the world and be attacked by people that you don't even know this happens every day! Get over the fact that it happened in your neighborhood, or where you live cause it happens everywhere!

And for anyone,anyone to say that he got what he deserves you never know you might be next and then maybe you will think about what you said and think maybe i got what i deserved! No one deserved to to stabbed.

He is someones Father, Son, Brother and Friend. I hope that you get well soon Mike!

You folks who are from the team and from the bar crawl...WTH is wrong with your perception? You keep insisting that "this had nothing to do with the bar crawl", and "this had nothing to do with our team"; yet those statements are not true. This *whole entire event* was a result of the bar crawl, and involved not only participants of the bar crawl, but also members of your team.

To Quote Justin's latest Update(and mind you, this one comes after you have added your skewed viewpoint, and after Justin has gone on to find out what the truth is, not just what you'd like to put on the public face of this so your team and stupid bar crawl don't look so stupid):
"Essentially, I'm told *all of the participants were members of the bar crawl* - they just didn't all know each other. After the first fight, a man (*who is a member of the Hitmen football team*) was taken into custody, and *his two female friends* were angry that Kooser didn't back him up in the fight. They chased him down and attacked him, at which time a 35-year-old man then stabbed him in the back. The women - Jennifer Sanford, 26, of Curtis Bay, and Kimberly L. Fleming, 32, of Baltimore - have been arrested and charged with attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder, assault, and other charges."

So, a member of your team was (by legal standards, thus his arrest) the aggresor in the first fight. He (and likely whoever he was fighting) was from the bar crawl; the girls who attacked him were from the bar crawl, the stabber was likely from the bar crawl as well...being someone who leaped to stab one drunk shmuck that his two drunk shmuck female acquaintaces were already assaulting.

And this is how you characterize one of your team events as a success?!?!?! You all are *proud* of your group's collective behavior? Prove yourselves to be real, decent human beings; give up the irresponsible, juvenile behavior of getting as drunk as you can; and take up EO's challenge to do something good for a community and for the public. Without him having to plan it...You all were organized enough to plan the bar crawl...be mature and organized enough to plan the right kind of event next time; instead of copping out by saying "You plan it, we'll be there." Saying that proves that you have absolutely no interest in mature, responsible behavior, and only want to put your energy into being drunk morons. (Which - for 'Drunkards' sake - is equally as stupid and useless for undergraduate-age people as it is for anyone else.)

Don't want to get stabbed, beaten up, or arrested in Baltimore City? Don't want to look like a bunch of stupid drunks in the public media? Don't got spend *hours* getting stupid-drunk, then being all aggressive with each other and everyone else in the vicinity. The things that happen in our lives are consequences of our own actions. The stabbing wouldn't have happened if the fight hadn't have happened. The fight wouldn't have happened if the first, earlier fight hadn't have happened. And the first, earlier fight wouldn't have happened if (instead of spending hours getting drunk and acting like idiots) you all were cleaning up a park, or the inner harbor, or some alleys, or building a Habitat for Humanity house, or tutoring kids, or volunteering at the local hospital, or serving as Big Brothers, or volunteering for the Auxilliary Police, or holding a bake sale, or auctioning off something in a raffle, etc., etc., etc.

You all sound like a bunch of dumb rowdy drunks lamenting that after hours of drinking by a bunch of meathead Baltimorons, someone got in a fight and got stabbed. Go cry to each other, while you plan your next stupid bar crawl; the rest of us don't buy your "poor, innocent us" act.

I Lived in South Baltimore all
my life. Never Never had all of this going on. You Yuppies
are the ones who are running
people out with your assoications etc. I think you
all need to get a life and get
out of South Baltimore. You want the name change etc well
it will always be south baltimore to me.
Just leave the people alone
that is living there and trying
to do the best they can.
It is a shame that they have
to put up with crap from all
of yu.

Heh. This Hampdenite hopes that all of the yuppie/white trash tools involved in this turf war keep their pub crawls in Canton, Fells Point and South Baltimore. I go to those neighborhoods as little as possible to avoid the post-college frat boy mentality that prevails. Out of sight, out of mind!

this will be my last statement on this and i hope the one that posted that Mike didnt hit any women read this...Mike hit two women, and the bruises are there to prove it..so i dont know what you think you saw. if you dont know what you're talking about,please SHUT UP and put the blame on all of them that were involved, not just some of them..all of them were in the wrong

HampdenHon - you have nothing to brag about. Hampden has its own mentality and population of low class drunks and junkies who stay drunk and high, impregnate 14 year old girls, have 15 teeth owned collectively by the whole neighborhood, can't hold a job, and fight each other and beat their women all the time.

The point about the vandalizing is that it is going to happen. And people will still be around to "tag," regardless of a name change but the name change will only provoke the potential. Someone will be annoyed enough by the name change to do it and that person could be the nicest, sweetest person there is. It has nothing to do with the "type" or person or people, it has to do with the neighborhood being disrespectd because outsiders think they have some God-given right to change the name. What RIGHT do you think that you have? And Tide Point didn't CHANGE the name of Locust Point.

The point wasn't that some "gang" was going to get together and plan to vandalize property, the point was someone is going to feel disrespected by the name change and take matters into their own hands. That happens ANYwhere AND EVERYWHERE.

Stop trying to think you can change a neighborhood, that is FINE as it is by the way, with a name change. Good things are going to happen, bad things are going to happen. That is LIFE. Such as the stabbing... Stop acting like this is NOT Baltimore or something. Whether or not South Baltimore is supposed to be "better" than other parts of Baltimore, doesn't mean that violence won't occur. It doesn't have to be prevalent but it happens, no matter WHERE you are.

And GTFU, I am certainly not ashamed of myself. I am definitely not going to be ashamed of myself because of the oh-so-thought provoking comments of someone behind a computer screen tagged "GTFU."

And if Locust Point/South Baltimore is so full of "white trash" and "thugs" then 1.) Don't come here and 2.) Don't move here or else leave.

Oh and John - as far as disrespecting property goes, that is the whole point. Natives feel that changing the name of Locust Point IS disrespecting property!

LOLOLOLOL Patsy- you realllly think that "yuppies" are to blame for the collapse of the economy... that is friggin hilarious and completely ignorant.

Im not getting into that because thats not what this post is about, and good luck to the kid in the hospital, atleast he is ok.

Do you want the truth?

The truth is... a bar crawl with this many people is always a bad idea. Bull roasts and shrimp feasts are a much more appropriate venue for this amount of people.

A few people were probably thinking throughout the bar crawl, "Who invited the Curtis Bay threesome with the phone book RAP sheets? They look like they could stab someone!" It was too late at that point.

It got out of control and there is no way to police 150+ people. 147 of them avoided trouble that day, but thats not gonna make the paper. More feeble minded "crawlers" take on a gang mentality and stroll from bar to bar just looking for some "shit" to get into.

Although Mike certainly is NOT one of those people. However, the general public is going to peg him guilty by association,which is not fair.

Most of these people aren't even from South Baltimore and certainly do not represent the blue collar workers and down to earth folks that make this part of Sobo so damn great. I'm talking about the teachers, nurses, politicians, crosssing guards, etc. that made this community flourish above other parts of Baltimore for so many years.

People ask me,"Aren't you scared to live in Baltimore City?" I reply, "Not where I am from, we have less crime than you do in Canton all the way up to White Marsh." The reason this stabbing is such a big deal is because crimes like these rarely occur in my little piece of South Baltimore. You may have a heroine addict steal your CD's that you illegally burned off the internet out of your car, but thats about it.

I do find it very funny that not only have the Yuppies been duped into thinking they live in Federal Hill, they are swearing by it. Federal Hill is a park overlooking the Inner Harbor. Homes close to the park, because of their scenic views of the Harbor, fetched more money starting in the 80's when the Harbor became such a tourist attraction. The term Federal Hill spread through the real estate community like golden lava, as Realtors wanted to list their property as "Federal Hill" area. Call it whatever you like, you paid 350k to live in a house where not only 10 years ago it was considered a "dicey street" and the house was valued at 40k. Some may thank you, but not I. You replaced my community of charismatic and friendly neighbors with inflated house prices and cold stares through the revolving door of rentors.

Also, McHenry Landing? Really? It's Locust Point, that will never change. McHenry Landing is awfully ignorant anyway. James McHenry was the secretary of war. Who landed there? James McHenry didn't. What landed there? Overpriced rowhomes with a view of the train tracks and rats? Come on people. You have to do more than overpay for a house to start calling the shots in our community.

So Yuppies, when I see you jogging by dripping in UnderArmour from head to toe with your Ipod armband blasting Dave Matthews out of your Skull Candy earbuds,don't just glance down at your heart rate monitor/odometer watch... look up and return the smile to your friendly Sobo Native. After all, we made this community what it is years before the Yuppie Landing!

MIKE KOOSER, KEEP DOING THE RIGHT THING AND GET BETTER!

I also can say that I know the person who is being accused of this crime. He also has children & family that care about him. He was not at the first fight at Tabs nor was he at the other fight involving the Two females. He even stated that he did not know how his attacker was or ever saw him before People had been drinking for 7 hrs im sure they were inpared to even drive a car let alone point out someone in the dark that was behind them. Alot of people are sitting in jail today because of mistanken identiy. It is very tragic that all of this has accoured. But I hope that people can learn from their mistakes.

First and foremost, my thoughts go out to the victim and his family.
To those who want to put South Baltimore down – go back to where you came from. My family has been in South Baltimore for generations and helped make it the great neighborhood it is today. While I do not currently reside in 21230, my heart will always be there. As a COLLEGE GRADUATE and PUBLISHED AUTHOR and HISTORIAN I take exception to the generalization and vicious stabs some of you have made of the current and former residents of South Baltimore. I am, as well as many of my old friends and classmates an accomplished, professional person as you like people to believe you are. The fact that you were doped into over paying for new construction because it has a “water view” in Locust Point does not give you the right to put down those who called it home before it was considered trendy.

As for the proposed name “McHenry’s Landing” I think someone should do their homework. McHenry didn’t “land” anywhere. The fort was named for James McHenry, a signer of the United States Constitution from Maryland, and the United States’ second Secretary of War. Locust Point has been a thriving community for 300 years and deserves to maintain its identity.

Just my two cents.

Starspangledhood- let's talk about hiding behing a screen name. I hope you do tag a sign for McHenry's Landing, I personally don't like the name at all but I am not going to tag it. That's friggin' juvenile, grow up or move out. I hope you tag it and I hope you get caught! Like your name says, you are a hood. If you want to make things better then start by cleaning up this neighborhood, don't spray paint a dumb sign because you don't like the name.

Is Riverside a part of Locust Point? Riverside didn't exist six years ago, it was Locut Point. Is the Sly Fox Pub, Locust Point? They say they are in Federal Hill, who cares? When you go to sell your house, your realtor is going to say that you live in Federal Hill, not South Baltimore, trust me! If you want to keep the name the same then get signatures together and do it the lawful way, don't destroy somebody's property. Please do me a favor and respect yourself and remember karma will come back and bit you in your ....

I'm not even a tag artist nor do I vandalize and I am NOT hiding behind a computer, not what so ever.

And, I am a hood? What exactly does that mean in your ingenious mind?

Star Spangled Hood is meant to be satirical but on the same token a much better name than McHenry's Landing, imo.

And LP'ers do not say they live in "Federal Hill." Natives tend to not even refer to Federal Hill as such. To us it is Fed Hill or "Up the Hill." It is people who don't know any better who refer to Locust Point as Federal Hill. I had a classmate once tell me he worked in Federal Hill and when I found out it was Merritt Athletic I schooled him and let him know that he actually works in LOCUST POINT.

And I WHOLEHEARTEDLY believe in Karma. I am not going to destroy property, I'm just saying the likelihood is that someone will. i wouldn't *dream* of protesting something in an unlawful manner and I have no intention of doing so.

While I don't plan on doing you any favors, GTFU, I already do respect myself and think very highly of myself.

did anyone else there notice that there was a third girl? guess not since you WEREN'T there.

I don't know Mike personally, a lot of my friends are really good friends with him. I never heard anything bad about him. I might of been around him once or twice and he seems respectful and laid back. Even if he did hit those girls he did not deserve to be stabbed. Anyone saying he deserved it is really cold hearted what if that was your son, brother, or friend? I don't see why people are saying its Mikes and the football teams fault. The football team was just trying to raise money for their team. Mike can not control what other people do. The person that stabbed Mike knew what he was doing he is a grown man he knows right from wrong well maybe he's not a man because if he was a real man he would of been face to face with Mike and not coming at him from behind.

I'm glad Mike is doing good. Keep your head up Mike and don't pay any attention to the people saying its your fault because its not!

wheres melvin?????
i guess we forgot about his ransom
did the pants get delivered?
everything in this area has gone down hill accept house prices!!!!! ever since the yuppie explosion
top deck is not top deck
coxs is not coxs
heartloves is not heartloves
so on and so on
these yuppies would rather go drink and walk their big ass dogs that crap everywere than to have kids and raise their families like the old sobo nation used to
this area (the hill ,lp? used to be filled with youth now only big ass dogs
i hope melvin is allright
hang in there

Melvin has died of Dysentery.

If it was in question, I think this thread has officially "jumped the shark."

you're still getting the hits the Justin.

It might spark a greater debate that the sun should cover. And it keeps a story alive in a society with ADD. I'm surprised it's lasted 3 days.

It does say something though. 10 people could be shot in West or East Baltimore, yet their citizens wouldn't be up in arms.

One person gets stabbed in Southside and you have throngs of people protecting the old neighborhood. It's unreal and really says something about the neighborhoods of the Baltimore of 'yore.

Well, for one, I've definitely passed on the whole McHenry's Landing issue to one of our other reporters, as I had not previously heard of that.

I stopped reading the comments after a bit, but am I the only one with a brain that knew that the first comment about banning knives was tongue in cheek? Seriously you guys need to relax a little, it was a comment made to be light hearted, I got it, and I'm sure atleast one or two more did, the rest of you, well geez.

I SAW EVERTHING!

And continuing off topic...Dave M. There are several people that have discredited the rumor about the name change to Locust Point. Emails have gone out to the civics association and have come back as no, there will not be a name change. What credible sources are there to even prove someone is going to propose this ridiculous change?

I was golfing at Carrol Park.

Theres no reason you people shouldnt be proud of McHenry's Landing. Locust Point is a very old, generic name. Please email me and let me know if your in favor. Thank you for your time and McHenry's Landing marches on. Just think easy switch from The Point to The Landing.

FSK@mchenry.org

Dear Kids that live between the speed bumps,

I love how you automatically assume I get drunk. Did you ever stop to think that maybe I dont even drink? Step off your high pedestal, back up, and insert your foot in your mouth. Maybe thats what you do... because its usually the guilty who are always the first to place blame. I designate a driver, take a cab, or just dont drink at all. I bet you cant say the same. Oh wait, since you apparently live in South Baltimore/Fed Hill, wtf-ever you wanna call it, you must just walk home then....right? So wait...wouldn't that make YOU a stumbling drunk as well. Gee, its something else when the tables get turned huh?

Have a sun-sunny day in paradise!

Thank God the person survived being attacked. Sounds like everyone came together to help him. The stabber is bound to get caught soon given the "small town" factor in SB. Change Locust Point's name to McHenry Landing? Please. Locust Point has serious historic value (go to Latrobe Park and read the large sign by the stairs at the front of the park), and the Maryland Historical Society is going to allow any change to the name of anything in the state historic registry. The majority of the residents aren’t going to allow it either. My wife and I moved to Locust Point about 2 ½ years ago. We are both military and part of the self-made / military "average Joe” growth in this neighborhood that started when the housing market slowed down. We and a cross-section of our neighbors banded together to dig ourselves out of the snow and take care of the older folks on our street this past blizzard. We help each other out all the time, and I think the yuppie/native riff some people are discussing is getting blown out of proportion. Don’t forget the “Bart Simpson” posters gleefully typing absurd things and then laughing at the reactions they get. The yuppie/native dog owners come together, whether they like it or not, because our dogs don’t seem to have a problem interacting with each other (Disney moment- maybe “the group” could learn something from the dogs). Same thing with people looking out for kids when cars are speeding through our streets, people who help a stray dog get back to there homes, or those that pick up broken glass so others don't get cut. Good people come together regardless of background. SB is an awesome neighborhood and I think is Baltimore's hidden jewel. It's growing and changing, and my big worries are thieves, who prey on yuppies and natives equally, and rising property taxes for those on fixed incomes. Ironic that some of the people who built SB into something great may have to leave because they can’t afford the growth related tax-hikes. Maybe we can get some tax protection build into the city code for residents who have owned their home for more than 15 or 20 years (hopefully that's already in the code). As far as the thieves, we need to come together and start a neighborhood watch. Almost every family on our street has had at least one car broken into, and the thieves don't care who they steal from. Neighborhood watches work, and will help all of us. I will work through my community association to get one started in LP and will be recruiting members soon.

I also can say that I know the person who is being accused of this crime. He also has children & family that care about him.(Good for them, they can visit this psychotic felon in prison for many years to come. Daddy sure does like wearing Orange jumpsuits, doesn't he? POS)

He was not at the first fight at Tabs nor was he at the other fight involving the Two females. He even stated that he did not know how his attacker was or ever saw him before
(The felon attacker was on the pub crawl, Mike saw him throughout the day along with everyone else on the pub crawl)

People had been drinking for 7 hrs im sure they were inpared to even drive a car let alone point out someone in the dark that was behind them.

(It wasn't midnight in the middle of the woods moron. There are street lights, car lights, business lights. All of a sudden 20+ peoples vision fails after drinking beer? He did it and everyone saw him do it. He than ran like a coward after stabbing someone in the BACK!!!!! Tough guy!!!!

Alot of people are sitting in jail today because of mistanken identiy. It is very tragic that all of this has accoured. But I hope that people can learn from their mistakes.

(God you are stupid! Are you this piece of trash's mother or "baby mamma"? I am sorry this accoured too. I am sorry your nut job felon friend with a RAP sheet of armed robbery and attempted murder at the age of 18 was so unfairly accused of this crime that 20+people watched him commit. Did he participate in any of the 20+ felonies he has on his record in the past years? Did he? He almost killed my friend, the best thing for him to do would be go to jail for a few decades.)

Not a drunk, because I can control my drinking.... Spoken like a true alcoholic...yeah,I watch Intervention and you are in denial sir. It's not just a river in Egypt.

So let me get this straight? A good time for you is getting in your car, driving to a bar, and just sit there sucking back soda pops? Enough said liar. It's the internet, you can "SAY" whatever you want. I go to bars purely to motivate the alcoholics into changing their lives. I then turn into a werewolf and sneak into Mexico to sell crack to nuns. Betcha didn't know that? You table turner! You sure turned the tables moe-ron! DJ Moe-Ron the table turning fool!

Honey pick me up, I am ready to come home from the bar, I'm all done watching these people drink!!!!

has anyone read the news article about this stabbing? the paper reports non life threatening injuries, and here is this guy claiming to have almost lost his life, and now tryin to change his story of the events that happened...is it just me or is he playing with people minds and hearts...i believe he is looking for a sympathy party to see how many people feel sorry for him...Man, you didnt almost die, so why dont you come out with the truth..they were non life threatening injuries, who are you tryin to impress with your story..u claim u didnt want the interview with fox 45..they just showed up? whatever..if u didnt want the interview, u could have shut the door and declined..your feeding into all of this attention and you were in the wrong just as well as everyone else...own up to what you did as well...

Dear Anonymous,

Obviously you cant read, because you failed to read my entire statement earlier. I never said I didnt drink retard. You really know how to make an ass of yourself. I dont think you realize how ridiculous you sound, you argue like a 12 year old. Next time I visit SoBo, we'll see if you have the balls to debate this in person.

Goodbye!

Anonymous (meaning Drunk Watcher, not person using alias Anonymous).

Mike Koosers blood has been washed away from the sidewalk outside of my apartment just as I hope the anger & ignorance that's been displayed throughout this thread can be. We all have the right to live wherever we choose. Out of respect to ourselves & our neighbors we should try to get along. I do have to make make a comment for the person hiding behind "anonymous" that after reading his comments I feel it would be smart to pull an IP address on Justin as he sounds like the guilty party here....In regards to non life threatening injuries..I work at the hospital & saw the amount of blood loss first hand which negates the original story. As mentioned earlier this is a story in the news mainly because of it's rare occurance in this area. Let's keep it that way neighbors.

to the idiot that says mike's injuries were non-life threatineng...that was from the first original article of which the author said he didn't have all the information. the man lost 50% of his blood and required 7 transfusions. and he's soaking up the publicity? lets see you go through what he's been through and see how you act.

for mr or mrs anonymous from march 4th at 11:07. Mike Kooser lost over a gallon of his own blood due to all three of the stab wounds. he had to have 4 blood transfusions as soon as he got to the hospital. he was in shock trauma for over 8 hours in and out the whole time. yes they say non life threatening injuries when you can still move your body. If you werent in the waiting area during this period of time you need to shut up about the subject and keep your opinions to yourself.

every last one of u need to stop talking about things non of u know nothing about.and all of u need to get a life.