Report on Ravens bust; was it profiling?
The firestorm over the arrest of a Ravens rookie by a Baltimore police officer continues as readers debate whether this was profiling gone amok or good police work that ended in the arrest of a man who refused to cooperate.
A few thoughts. This isn't "profiling" in its truest since because the police officer was reacting to a complaint by a security guard who thought he saw one man pass a gun to another man. It turned out to be a cell phone.
It should be noted that the Ravens player, Anthony "Tony" Fein, is black; the arresting officer is white; the security guard who initially made the complaint is black. Much is being made of the fact the officer noted in his report that the player was wearing a hooded sweat shirt which raised suspicion because it was a hot day outside, and that such shirts can easily conceal a gun. These are things cops look for to determine whether somone is hiding drugs or guns. If that was the lone criteria for searching the player, then we could better debate the profiling issue. But as police note, it wasn't. The arresting officer was acting on a complaint by a securty guard who saw something (it also should be noted that the player's agent told the Baltimore Sun's Justin Fenton that his client wears the sweat shirt to cover tattoos to avoid being profiled).
And when cops are dealing with someone who might have a gun, they make sure the person is secured and search him before they tell him why they are taking such action. Maybe the officer could've said, "Sir, we have a report that you might have a gun ..." but they usually don't do that. They confront the person, issue orders and if the person doesn't comply, then they put on handcuffs to ensure everyone is safe.
The arrest of the Ravens player comes days after a double shooting in the very same pavilion
Sunday's arrest occurred, and after the mayor ordered her police to be more aggressive in confronting suspected gang members at the harbor. I've heard Dixon was angry upon visiting the harbor after the shooting and not finding any private security guards, who patrol inside the privately-owned shopping pavilions, and reacted angrily to the owner, General Growth Properties. Dixon knew her comments would spark concern, but she didn't care.
"People might not like it," Dixon said told the Baltimore Sun's Annie Linskey. "Some radicals are going to speak out about it. Our officers are going to have to be more aggressive."
Here is a copy of the police charging document:








Comments
I've read a few of these PC statements before, and this one is of much higher quality. Did Sgt. Donato write this?
Posted by: Richard | August 24, 2009 5:53 PM
Oh no! Not a football player!!Just another incident involving these deviants, criminals, and dare I say – narcissistic sociopaths. So long as the fans continue to reward bad behavior and the news media cover such acts it will continue in varying degrees of lawlessness. Like it or not sports figures have a higher than normal place in American society (why I've never understood) and must live up to a certain code - higher than the average Joe. Bad behavior should not be tolerated - incidents of abuse, cruelty, disregard for the law, etc. must be punished immediately and severly. Until then, we will continue to see these morons run wild with total disregard for the laws of society and disdain for the rights of others. If you agree, send a message to the team owners and their sponsors - don't support them!
Posted by: PAFR | August 25, 2009 7:57 AM
This is not racial profiling at all. However, no matter what the officer does right, uninformed and uneducated people which are usually the same race of the civilian, will scream "PROFILING"!
You know, I don't care if its profiling or not. Lets face facts here. The inner harbor is supposed to be a safe place to take your family. At any given time you can see children and grand parents enjoying the sights or restaurants, or shopping. The majority of these people are NOT young black males.
Lets also face the facts that the gang members who did the shooting were young black males.
The solution here is not to discontinue searching young black males. When you stop doing that, shootings will happen. Its inevitable. The solution is for the young black males to grow up, be mature, and stop being violent.
Posted by: John | August 25, 2009 8:10 AM
You just don't shove a cop and expect him to leave you alone. If he is that stupid then he deserves to be cut immediately.
Posted by: Paul | August 25, 2009 8:28 AM
I am so laughing so hard.. I am not only one who am deaf that cops like to look for troubles or challenge me several times without reasons such as traffic violences or was in Brooklyn, MD that they think I was a joke who I was.
About Tony Fein, I believe that cop was trying to challenge for get what he can arrest for cheap reasons.
By the way, all about cops in this Baltimore City, some of them don't have a good skill to educate gang or bad kids, or accidently mistaken by people. The reason is education very importantly that could help gangs better which possible if voices are right way. For example, give you a bad voice by cop that make you feeling uncomfortable like what Tony Fein got a first experience. And he has never been arrested before. I had seen many cops talked abusive to some of my friends in past. And friends' behaviors stayed the same. What I thought cops should go back to school to learn with good skill for education properly instead of voice abusing.
Posted by: Brice | August 25, 2009 9:36 AM
Hey guess what, the majority of Black males AREN'T violent, John. The statement "most crime is committed by Black males" is NOT the same as claiming "most Black males are criminals"...
I guess according to you, every Black male should be held accountable for what some of them do. Maybe Black males should be held to a dress code so that White people can feel safer...no, scratch that, I've been stopped wearing a suit, wearing work clothes, with my kids, etc...so I guess there really isn't any solution...if you're Black you're guilty until proven innocent...
Posted by: Keith | August 25, 2009 9:46 AM
Read pg 4 of the report. One of the men (the one who passed the suspected weapon) and was also stopped and frisked was WHITE! That and the fact the officers did'nt just pick them out of the crowd,(they responded to a report, from a reliable witness) kills the racial profiling theory. The reason the part about the sweatshirt is in the report is because it stregthens the Officers probable cause. However PC is not needed to frisk someone for a weapon. Only a reasonble suspicion is necessary.
Posted by: Jim | August 25, 2009 10:31 AM
Brice if you want to inform the Police they need an education. Then let me make a suggestion you get one first so they can understand what you are writing to get the point.
Posted by: Laughing at Brice | August 25, 2009 11:00 AM
Listen, if the police gives you an instuction to stand up, why would you refuse? Unless there is something incriminating in your lap? I think all of this talk about racial profiling is way off the mark on this case. I have a tip for all of you, when a police officer gives you an order, obey the order and don't push, pull, punch, or touch the officer. if you do, you get a free ride to central booking!
Posted by: PJ | August 25, 2009 11:46 AM
Is it possible Tony Fein is playing the race card to try and make an excuse for his disorderly behavior? Also, we are talking about one black male and one white, which one was racially profiled? Come on people, what about some common sense, is that all but gone in today's society? I agree there may be some police officers on the force who do racially profile certain types of people but in this case, it's just his agent trying to get him off!
Posted by: PJ | August 25, 2009 11:57 AM
Fein can make all the excuses he wants none of it changes the fact that he shoved a police officer. I haven't heard him or his agent deny it Simply try and make excuses for it.
Posted by: ravensfan | August 25, 2009 12:44 PM
Professional athletes are scumbags. I hope the judge throws the book at him. The fact that he's trying to play the race card after attacking the officer shows how pathetic he truly is.
Posted by: renfield1969 | August 25, 2009 12:59 PM
did anyone understand what brice posted?
Posted by: brandon | August 25, 2009 1:11 PM
A sentence or two would made sence if they were not in with the rest of the paragraph.
Posted by: Jim | August 25, 2009 1:33 PM
I think the Mayor and Police Chief are full of it. It's not just at the harbor it's anywhere in the city you go.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2009 1:36 PM
Brice makes a good point ... If you have never seen "The Wire," I recommend that anyone with an OPEN MIND watch it (because it sure isn't for everyone). I'd be pissed off too if a cop thought my cell phone was a gun, especially if I was black. This city is full of corruption, including the EDUCATED police force. Sometimes the more educated one is, the easier it is for him/her to break the SACRED LAWS. Do overpaid, pompous professional athletes get away with things? Yes, all the time. It might not be right, but upper management in a multi-million dollar franchise also likes to protect their financial assets who sign big contracts. Think about that conservative white folk!!!
Posted by: Natalia | August 25, 2009 1:42 PM
It boils down to no respect for authority. I don't care if he is the best football player in the country, he needs to follow the law like everyone else. Lots of young people look up to professional atheletes and want to be just like them. So how many young people now think it is okay to shove police officers!They got a call about someone they thought had a gun. If he had actually had a gun and no one did anything then it would be the police departments fault. They were just doin their job and he was acting like a fool end of story.
Posted by: Pam | August 25, 2009 2:17 PM
This officer did a fine job. He should be commended for his attention to detail.
Posted by: Chuck Klingelhofer | August 25, 2009 2:43 PM
I like how people are talking about how the police need to be more educated and how the police need to do things different. Why don't all of you go put your life on the line on a daily basis and not know if you are going to make it home to see your family before you say how the police should handle things differently. Face the facts this officer was responding to a report of a possible gun in an area with increasing crime and violence, when he arrived he was pushed. Its so easy for people to monday morning quarterback how police and firefighters handle their dangerous jobs. As a member of the people that risk their lives for others shut up and let us do our jobs so we can keep you safe and make it home to our loved ones safe.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2009 2:53 PM
Natalia, nice comment. Do you even understand the story? A security guard called about a possible gun and the officer was following up on the call. The officer didn't know it was a phone until after the altercation. Should police officers ask,"Excuse me sir, is that a gun you have there?"
Don't be silly and don't perpetuate the hate here.
Posted by: Outofhere | August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
As the call was made by a Black security guard (and the suspects were of more than one race), it is hard to make a case for racial profiling. If anything, the black guard could have been prejudiced against the white suspect.
The cops were just responding to a call, i.e., doing their job. I guess the moral of the story is that the Baltimore Police Department should only send an officer whose race matches that of each suspect.
Tony Fein may have felt unjustly singled out, but that does not give him an excuse to shove a cop. If he had a complaint, he could've taken it up with the cops AFTER they determined that there was no gun present.
I have been confronted by cops for no other reason than my race matched that of a suspect. It was startling, as I did nothing wrong and had no idea why I was being stopped. That said, I did my best to follow their orders - which weren't very clear - and was on my way once I was searched.
It was an annoyance, and they certainly did not apologize for my inconvenience, but I realized that they were trying to do their job.
I do think that racial profiling is wrong, and if I had to be stopped repeatedly for no other reason than my race I would find it to be an infringement.
Posted by: White Suspect | August 25, 2009 3:01 PM
Two accounts of blacks being questioned by police for legimate reasons in the last two months, and both act like idiots and get themselves arrested. Both times they use the race card and society wonders why racism is getting worse. All the law abiding African Americans in this country need to stand up and speak out against the idiots in your race. This is getting ridiculous.
Posted by: Big p | August 25, 2009 3:31 PM
I am 24 year old BLACK male sBaltimore City Public School Teacher and I was stopped, made to get out of my car, forced to sit on the curb and had my car searched because of "reasonable suspicion," which was never explained to what I suspicious of doing. The fact is when a young educated black man challenges a police officer white or black, they do not like it, because they think we are all uneducated and criminals or at least potential criminals.
He shouldnt have pushed the officer but imagine sitting down enjoying a dinner and officer came to you screaming orders. How receptive would you be? At that moment I dont think you are anything about the fact he may just be doing his job
Posted by: Sean | August 25, 2009 5:04 PM
gee we all know baltimore city crime is out of control
i guess its those white people doing it !! Right
get real
what will happen is the city police will be handcuffed in their duties and the crime will continue and harboplace will be a ghosttown
Posted by: steve | August 25, 2009 5:32 PM
I would love to see the comments about the cops had they not followed through on the guard's suspicion and someone had gotten shot. I have no doubt they'd be vilified.
I'm about as liberal as they come, but I was taught to respect authority. If a police officer tells me to do something, I'm going to do it. I would never think of shoving him/her. Never. Now, if s/he did something I took exception to, I'd have no problem filing a complaint. Behaving badly at the time I'm being questioned/searched/arrested would only make things worse for me.
Posted by: avalon | August 25, 2009 7:42 PM
my goodness Sean, after reading your post I have to say I hope your not indicative of the rest of the teachers at your school, if so I certainly would not want you to teach my children in school, I at least hope that your not an English teacher.
Posted by: tbrown21061 | August 25, 2009 8:39 PM
"Professional athletes are scumbags. I hope the judge throws the book at him. "
The guy is an Iraq War veteran - I would bet that he probably would know a thing or two about deference to authority. Cut the guy some slack for serving our country and don't lump him in with some of the other pro athletes who are having trouble with the law.
"The solution is for the young black males to grow up, be mature, and stop being violent. "
If you grow up in a poor neighborhood in Baltimore city with an atrocious school system and shaky family support, maybe gang life would offer more social and economic benefits than conventional paths to economic security (i.e. graduating high school, college, etc..).
I would highly recommend "Gang Leader for a Day" by Venkatesh to get a sense of the impact of gangs on daily life among the urban poor.
Posted by: Anand | August 25, 2009 9:46 PM
Sean, you obviously aren't an English teacher (at least I hope not).
Posted by: Dazed and confused | August 25, 2009 10:30 PM
In a Washington Post article covering this subject, they mention that the police officer was shoved so hard that he actually fell to the ground and injured his elbow. Anybody have the facts on this?
Posted by: MVres | August 26, 2009 6:04 AM
Racial profiling? so they saw a black man and thought he was Obama?
The black males who dress conservatively probably are not going to experience the same hassling that a black male with gold fronts, corn rows, a hoodie and oversized pants with no belt to emulate the prison situation where they take your belt from you. (which to me is why this whole country is idiotic talking about the abuse people get when part of their culture is to emulate criminals)
Posted by: kurt | August 26, 2009 6:18 AM
Face the facts this officer was responding to a report of a possible gun in an area with increasing crime and violence, when he arrived he was pushed. Its so easy for people to Monday morning quarterback how police and firefighters handle their dangerous jobs.
Posted by: Kids Football Shirt | September 6, 2009 7:12 AM