Commentators to the Crime Beat blog and to the Baltimore Sun's Talk Forum overwhelmingly support city cops for locking up three kids, agest 7, 8 and 11, for stealing a wagon, a scooter and bicycle parts.
The children's parents thought the treatment too harsh, but most readers and television viewers thought the punishment was either just right or not harsh enough. Baltimore Police defended handcuffing the youths and sending them to detention (no criminal charges were filed) though the mayor said that because the offedners' parents were home, she might have written the reports in the house and let the children stay there.
Seems to me we need to go back to basics. You hear time and again from older community residents, both here and across the country, that in their day when children misbehaved, they could count on being disciplined by their neighbors, then dragged home to be disciplined again by their parents. Word of your childhood transgressions typically reached home before you did.
Before a recent community walk in Southwest Baltimore's Carrollton Ridge neighborhood, in response to a 5-year-old girl caught in the crossfire and critically wounded, association leader Connie Fowler, who has lived there 46 years, lamented at the loss of old-fashion values. "If my son was caught doing something, the person corrected him and came to us to say something. You can't do that here today. If you correct a child, the parents are ready to beat you up. So I don't say anything to the parents. Most of the kids around here are raising themselves."
I know, today is different than yesterday. We can no longer trust each other enough to let children have the run of the neighborhood, confident that the entire neigbhorhood helps raise the neighborhood children. Now we have to screen friends and the parents of friends, worried that a child molester or a drug dealer might lurk around the corner. Perhaps in Connie Fowler's day, these kids who stole the bikes would've been dealt with by the residents and there would've been no need to get police involved.
Here is an e-mail I got this morning from a resident of Medfield, where the young offenders live:
I live in Medfield and have see the two boys that were arrested roaming the neighborhood on a daily basis. They, along with a large number of other neighborhood kids, are always unsupervised and are left to entertain themselves. They jump neighbors fences, bully other kids, tease neighbors dogs, place empty trash cans in the middle of the street, litter, skateboard in the middle of the street and challenge cars to try to pass them. Until yesterday’s piece of news, calling the police was useless. City police response time to a 911 call, let alone a call to 311, is outrageously long. By the time the police arrive the kids are long gone and if the kids find out you called the police, the harassment begins. Please don’t misunderstand, the parents are to blame in this situation. These kids need some focus and discipline in their lives. They need adults that care about what they are doing, where they are going, who they are hanging with. They need their parents attention otherwise they will end up like many of the teens in the neighborhood – another young victim of the drug/alcohol scene.
Here is a sampling of comments:
Why was an 8 year old child unsupervised for a period of time that allowed him to commit a crime? That's bad enough, but what if a far worse crime had been committed against him while he was not being properly supervised? For example: rape, kidnapping, or God forbid, murder. People need to protect their children.. WHERE WERE THE PARENTS/GUARDIANS?
You break the law, commit the crime, you are arrested. It drives me nuts to think that those jokers are suing the city for their son breaking the law. I don't care what age the kid was, maybe he wontt do it again.
If I had been caught stealing when I was that age, my mom would have insisted the cops put me in handcuffs. I would also have begged to stay at the police station knowing what faced me when I got home.
Jim: If the kids weren't stealing they wouldn't have to be put in handcuffs simple as that. Maybe their parents should of been watching them? They are only 7 and 8.
I'm glad they arrested these kids. They didn't actually charge them with anything but maybe putting the fear of God in them was enough to give each of them the lesson of a lifetime. I sure hope this experience sticks with them for a very long time!
Sigmalady: I think putting handcuffs on them and taking them to the police station would have been enough scare for children that small. Locking them up in a cell is excessive. But I bet they won't steal again.
The parents should do a bit better job parenting rather than complaining about the police. If they taught their kids stealing was wrong they wouldn't be in this situation. Ages 7-11 and stealing bikes...that's just bad parenting and supervision. Arresting the kids is warranted because you know the parents (after reacting like this) wouldn't do a thing about it.
So let me get this straight. The three youths stole bikes, got arrested for it, and the parents are upset...that they got arrested. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Baltimore.
After reading about the parents reaction to their kids being detained for "stealing" the bikes, I truly believe the police locked up the wrong family members .... good grief. Leadership starts and apparently in this case, ends at the top.
Why is this news? Seems to me, it 's only because these kids are 7 and 8 years old. If the parents aren't willing to do some parenting, then I am glad that the BCPD is willing to step up and attempt (key word ) to teach these kids right and wrong. If 2 hours in a holding cell will keep them from getting 2 months or 2 years housed in a detention facility down the road, then I'm all for it!! The parents need to save their outrage and turn it where it is directed--at themselves--for allowing their 7 and 8 year old kids to steal stuff.