The original post states a male and female were attacked. If another man attended the meeting, does that raise the beating count to 3 in one night?

In the wiretaps and indictments against the BGFs, it said that they routinely used the Belvedere as something of a meeting place and were involved in the shootings at the Belvedere a few months ago. Is there any suspicions that the BGFs are involved in the increase in violence and/or with the Ultra lounge either through ownership or as a meeting place?

Thanks for these updates, Peter.

There is no place for a "BYOB bar" anywhere in this city, or in any other, really. Conventional bars generally have orders to not serve any customers who appear intoxicated, do not allow people to bring in already-purchased alcohol (for a number of reasons, many of which I'd judge to be reasonable), and do not allow customers of "all ages," among other things.

There are useful and meaningful reasons that all of these customary rules are in place. A BYOB bar that has "all ages nights" runs against all of these useful rules, and the city should not license an establishment that doesn't abide by these regulations.

Peter, please don't continue to do half a story. The reason the club is BYOB is because The Belvedere residents did not want this business owner to have a liquor license just because he is a minority. They wanted all the business to continue to go to the white business owner of the Owl Bar and the 13th floor. The residents and Board of Directors are very racist in The Belvedere. If you are not white they are trying to run you out and take possession of your property. The plan The Belvedere Board members back fired and the club owner found patrons for his business. Now the very people, such as Jason Curtis that is complaining are the people that conspired against this owner for pure racial reasons. Now they are trying to blame this owner for hurting the business of The Owl Bar and 13th floor. The owner of those bars is just a bad business manager; with all the help he received from the white establishment's corruption he still can' t make it. If someone doesn't tell the truth, there will be another victim of The Belvedere corrupt ways of taking over properties of unit owners. They are trying to turn the Belvedere into a hotel. The more unit owners they get rid of, the more money they (The Board of Directors)will make. Before you write another word, come in The Belvedere and talk to some of the owners and get the real truth.

That's a serious and dangerous accusation you are leveling Anonymous, if that is your real name. However miserably constructed, your post is clear. You would like to blame the illegal activities of this establishment on an imaginary conspiracy.

As a neighborhood resident. All I care about is people getting beat up every weekend by kids coming out of that club. As a side note, doesn't Baltimore have a curfew now? Is it even legal for the groups of kids to walk home from this party? Almost everyone is under 18. Maybe police can use that to help keep people safe.

To the Anonymous poster above: You are an idiot. Or am I missing the horrible white overlord who is forcing out of control youths to knock the teeth out of unsuspecting pedestrians' mouths?

I've driven up N Charles since this club has been open and it's pretty clear that it needs to go. I'm not interested in seeing an otherwise decent neighborhood turn into Night of the Living Dead. The race of the monsters who I saw harassing people just walking up the street is irrelevant. Its the behavior that matters.

Please look at the entire truth, whether my blob is poorly constructed or not. The proof is in the court system. The plan that backfired is the reason this Night Club has this level of clientele. They found patrons that did not need a cocktail hour.The owner of the Night Club would have loved to have a mature crowd, but The Board of Directors of The Belvedere prevented that. They wanted the more mature clientele to support The Owl Bar and The 13th floor. Now everyone is suffering the residents, business owners and the neighborhood. People have a right to make a living and fight for their property. Maybe the people in Mt Vernon should ask one of their own Jason Curtis.. Why did you try to hurt this business owner
because now you hurt us? Maybe the residents of Mt Vernon should meet with The Board of Directors at The Belvedere and demand accountability. If the Board has it's way, The Belvedere will be a hotel again and The Ultra lounge will be an Athletic Club. There is nothing wrong with that as long as you pay for what you want, instead of stealing it.

I am probably an idiot for telling the truth. If this club was allowed to have a different clientele that would have enjoyed cocktail hour like the other clubs the violence would have never come to Mt Vernon.
BTW.. there is no white overlord. People are just used to being racist or accepting racism without talking about it. It's easier to make it something else.

I am a Baltimore Native. I grew up in Charles Village and lived in Mount Vernon post College. I have partied hung out in the neighborhood since the days of book store restaurants and more specifically I have hung out at the Belvedere hotel at the 13th Floor, Owl Bar, Kobe, I hung out in what I believe to be Ultrasound when it was a shady pool hall. I have hung out at the way shady Red Square/Star which is well... there is def. something happening there. Mount Vernon is a very eclectic neighborhood, which is why I like it there. But let's be clear there has always been a shady under belly to Mount Vernon. However people just like it swept under the rug and not talked about. There is no doubt in my mind that drugs other than the booze being served flows in and out of all the clubs from Penn Station on down. I have seen fights and awful acts of violence all over Mount Vernon before the ultrasound club existed and I am sure I will see it afterwards. There are several issues here. One being that these are teenagers who are going to act out. Because that is what teenager do. The owner of the club should be held accountable... ok... well then why aren’t all the other establishments held accountable. I have seen people leaving the Brewers Art (and other bars) hammered off resurrections, then proceed to vandalize the neighborhood, there was no public out cry against the other owner(s). I have seen brawls in the middle of the street when Central, the Hippo, and Palomas (way back) let out. There was no outrage. Midtown, Osheas, th eshady place on the corner of Charles and center before it got shut down.. all the same. I have seen couple off all creeds leaving the Bass Elephant, Sascha's, First Thursday Events... urinating in public, fighting (verbally and physically) out side of thevThe stables I have seen so queens throwing down...where is the accountability...sorry just ranting, to me it seems like this may be the smoke screen to cover up a deeper issue. I know but it sucks to get jumped, it sucks to get beat up period, especially by a group of teenagers. Well thugs as someone called him or her but then so is everyone else then thugs. Look if you don’t want a group of teenagers running through out the area at night say it. If you don’t want a group of African American teenagers running though your neighborhood then say it. Me personally I would rather walk through the crowd letting out of the Belvedere then walk through “up and coming” Hampden on the Avenue at night. That is my opinion. But don’t say it is because you don’t want unruly violent thugs walking around. If that is how you feel have you been to Mount Vernon. Next time you go to the bathroom at a club listen to see who peeing or sniffing. Look for those nodding individuals, listen to the stories at the pubs of the fights or better yet check the crime blotter. But then they are only the ones reported. Because I know personally of some stuff that went down that was news worthy but never made the papers. So I will start it off I like my Mount Vernon to be filled with coked up, nodding, ex taking hipsters, artist, messengers, graffiti artists, queens, trannies, lesbos, gays, professionals. But I will be damned if I have to see (more then the occasional sightings if they spew over form MLK or come from center street near the prison or Hopkins area) unruly and unaccompanied by parents black teenagers in my neighborhood at night unless there are from a inner city school performing/singing during the lighting of the monument on some other sophisticated function.

Mt. Vernon is an exciting, vibrant and eclectic neighborhood to live in for reasons that don't necessitate violent crime. Bad Grammar mistakes public nuisances with the very real threat to public safety that physically violent crime imposes.

Ultralounge is only the most visible example of the upswing of violent crime associated with nightlife in the area, if only because of the historic nature of the Belevedere building.

Similar violent altarcations have taken place in recent years around a number of otherwise safe, respectable establishments, including Red Maple, Eden's Lounge, even the Hippo, and the now defunct El Patron.

As a minority, and as someone who appreciates hip-hop, I'm embarrassed to admit that the single unifying factor in all of this has been the proliferation of hip hop nights in the neighborhood.

We're not allowed to talk about it, because of the race issue. But the sad factor is that for all the otherwise embarrassing public behavior Bad Grammar points out above, that are not restricted to a given subset of Mt. Vernon nightlife, violent assault is almost exclusively associated with hip hop clubs and clubs with hip hop nights.

It's a shame that the hip hop community simply can't find itself a safe, viable venue in the city without an unfortunate violent aspect tagging along.

The accusation that the Belvedere association (which I have no connection to, myself) conspires to keep a particular establishment down is specious, if not silly. The association has a longstanding reputation in the neighborhood for not being particularly effective; to accuse them of conspiring against the proprietors of the Ultralounge, frankly gives them too much credit.

Moreover, other hip hop clubs in the neighborhood have fared rather well; Eden's Lounge in particular. It's not a particularly friendly place, but it doesn't bleed violence over into the streets with the seeming regularity that Ultralounge does.

Bar and club owners in Mt. Vernon need to realize that the bump in bar receipts from hip hop nights may not be worth the long-term loss of other kinds of revenue as Mt. Vernon earns an unsafe reputation.

They need to understand that just by ejecting unruly characters, they protect themselves, but still invite violence to poison the neighborhood and its future.

The business owners of Mt. Vernon, and the neighborhood association need to lose their fear of broaching these touchy issues of race and classism, to address basic issues of public safety.

re: "Moreover, other hip hop clubs in the neighborhood have fared rather well; Eden's Lounge in particular. It's not a particularly friendly place, but it doesn't bleed violence over into the streets with the seeming regularity that Ultralounge does."

Eden's not a friendly place?!?! hiphop club?!?!?! WHAT!! Eden's has professional Black folks and talented live shows. Unlike most of the venues in that area.

It seems like everytime I walk by Eden's Lounge, there are police there investigating some kind of violent act. Just last night, it looked like they were investigating a shooting. If this kind of stuff continues, it's going to jeopardize all of the businesses in the area. It needs to stop.

sorry, but eden's lounge is no exception. just last night, the club, yes club, was taped off with tons of cops swarming the place. i can only imagine a similar incident to what occurred at the belvedere. i have to say that i agree with better grammar and the violence unfortunately being connected to hip-hop nights at the local clubs. there are too many young angry people out there using violence. it needs to stop and if that means no more hip-hop, so be it.