Arrow: On Target?

What were we saying about Ollie's trick arrows? Granted, there was no boxing glove arrow, but the knockout gas one and the taser one were hot. We sure didn't get to play with things like that when we were in summer camp!
The other thing we didn't have: Ollie's supercool retractable bow that fit in a thigh holster. That? Was awesome.
But enough about this hero-come-lately... What did you think of Clark this episode? He used his detecting skills to figure out the Arrow's identity - skills that will come in handy when he's a world-class reporter... Also, we thought it was pretty classy the way he used his eye beams to help Ollie get away before Lois unmasked him.
Do you think Lois will ever soften her stance on masked superheroes? We suspect she'll stick to the hard-line distrust of masked men for some time to come. But maybe this experience with Ollie will make her that much more receptive to Clark when he finally reveals all...
Talk about "Arrow" here!
Comments
I think the episodes are great this year. The writing sometimes disappointed me last season. Clark is finally coming into his own. I am waiting for him to kick Lex's butt and take Lana back for at least a while.
Posted by: Marty | November 2, 2006 9:01 PM
Has anyne gone on Kryptonsite and seen the new promotional picture for "Fallout?"
It's interesting..who's gonna die? I have my guess, but i'll wait eagerly for the episode!
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I guess it is pretty obvious Raya will die, or maybe Clark dies because he was not the real Clark and Jimmy will take up his identity and become Superman!
Posted by: QueenBee | October 25, 2006 1:27 AM
Green Arrow-VILE.
Enough is enough.
Posted by: Green Arrow-VILE | October 24, 2006 10:42 PM
Awsome episode. Right on target! I loved how Lana is starting to go to the bad side. Lois was finally the Lois: the way she "stretched" the truth to become bait was so completely Lois. The way she wouldn't give up. And the foreshadowing: Lois Lane named superman in Superman story, and in Smallville she named Green Arrow. I loved her chemistry with Oliver Queen. The whole relationship reminded me of Bruce Wayne and Lois Lane in "The World's finest". Amazing.
What's up with Chloe and Lois? I hope there is no problem in the future between the cousins because of journalism. And Clark... Finally he was almost superman in this episode.
I loved it!
Posted by: Liana | October 24, 2006 7:13 PM
Except Clark no one has any purpose in Smallville
Posted by: Anonymous | October 24, 2006 2:32 PM
Lois needs to go...I don't see any purpose for her.
Lex and Lana had got to end soon. They have no purpose too.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 24, 2006 2:09 PM
Lana is soooo up to something.
I don't like the way that Lois and Chloe are going.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 24, 2006 2:07 PM
Has anyne gone on Kryptonsite and seen the new promotional picture for "Fallout?"
It's interesting..who's gonna die? I have my guess, but i'll wait eagerly for the episode!
Posted by: meg | October 24, 2006 10:31 AM
We should be happy that Arrow overall has got good reviews. Zod was such a wonderful start, but Sneeze and Whither disappointed the fans very much and then Smallville came back with Arrow. We should be happy that the writers focused on taking the story forward and the outcome was a fantastic episode that we all enjoyed.
I think all of us should now stop this bashing spree, and admit that Lois and Chloe are both wonderful and entirely different characters in their own respects.
I think the writers know where they are taking both Lois and Chloe, let’s trust them for a change and see where this goes and those who are complaining to get Chlo-Lo back (including myself) should have a little patience and see what the writers are trying to show us with this “friendly rivalry” thing. Maybe there are lessons for both cousins in it, may be they’ll learn something and become even closer in future.
Being a huge Erica fan, I am glad that she got so much praise and yes, we are finally seeing the making of the iconic Lois Lane in her and I can’t wait to see where this season takes all of these characters.
Posted by: Shalimarfox80 | October 23, 2006 10:32 PM
STOP BASHING AND LET´S WAIT TO SEE WHAT´S GONNA HAPPEN BETWEEN COUSINS IN THE NEXT EPS
I LOVE SMALLVILLE!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2006 9:11 PM
As far he spending time to grieve for the loss of his dad and his break up with Lana why did she have to wait until Fade?. She could have told him to focus his energy in journalism and try to honor Jonathan by it. She could have encouraged him to do so in Fragile or Mercy and then in Fade if she had given the press pass it wouldn't have looked like she had Clark involved in covering the trial to get her the story.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2006 12:28 PM
I really enjoyed this eppy. I liked Clark and Olliver's scenes especially, and this was a great set up for the future. Great touch, how Chloe commented on the 'Superhero code of honour', and how Clark kept Ollie's secret. Lois was fantastic in this episode, moreso because she had such an active role to play. I'm happy for the character and Erica for getting a meatier part to sink her teeth into. Kristin Kreuk did well too, and I normally really dislike Lana's character. But I have to admit that Lana was oddly intimidating in that elevator scene. But my highlight was all the scenes involving Lex and Lionel. The possible game of one up-manship and ambiguity was so much fun!
Speaking specifically of Lois, a lot of review sites were very favourable towards her in this ep.
From K-SITE: http://www.kryptonsite.com/arrowreview.htm
''I loved that Lois had in this episode become a lot more like her comic book self. She investigated the Green Arrow, trying to unmask him with a tenacity that is typical Lois and her life was put into jeopardy because of it. Of course, it wasn't Superman that saved her but the Green Arrow. Signs of things to come, no doubt, but the events in this episode made an excellent advancement in her character arc. And Erica was fantastic in this episode. She played the hard as nails, cynical Lois believably and skillfully.''
From BILLIEDOUX REVIEWS: http://www.billiedoux.com/sv6x4.html
''I love Lois, and she was a lot of fun. I'm enjoying seeing her grow into her ultimate role as the reckless, go for broke reporter. Lois is so tough and sassy that when she's in danger, it pretty much works. That was some black dress Lois was almost wearing in the teaser. And pearls. She is so gorgeous. And so wonderfully lacking in anything resembling tact.''
From DC-Kingdom: http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php?categoryid=42&p408_articleid=44
''The initial meeting of Oliver and Clark in Oliver’s apartment gave us some nice triangular dynamics with Lois at the apex. Triangles are an ongoing staple of this show, particularly this season. The dialogue in this scene was very anvil heavy, but done so well that it wasn’t as cringe-worthy as it has been previously (see Aqua). Oliver’s comment about Clark masking his feelings in sarcasm, and Clark and Lois’ subsequent protests were done with the right touch by all three actors. My favorite line of the scene was Lois’ talking about the boys marking their territory, which by the way…wasn’t her! Hah! Snarky Lois without the heavy acid-tongue directed at only Clark, is really starting to endear herself to me.
Speaking of Lois, I have to laugh at how hard they keep trying to drown the poor girl. This is the third time that she’s had her very impressive lungs filled with fluid until unconscious. First in Recruit, then in Aquaman, and now in Arrow. The really funny irony is that Tom Welling said in an interview done while filming Aqua, that Erica (Durance) is deathly afraid of water. Kudos to her for enduring the perils of her profession. Lois’ character has finally found her “true calling” of journalism… albeit for a trashy rag paper, but at least it’s a start. She is showing tenacity and a drive for sniffing out stories that will drive her future successful career. Her decided lack of experience is going to make this transition a bumpy one, but one that will be great fun to watch.
A really interesting relationship to keep an eye on is the one between Chloe and Lois. Now that they are competitors in a very competitive field, will the normally close cousins have their mutual green eyes become even greener? I suspect, yes. Chloe was a little too gleeful when telling Clark about how she withheld that bit of information about the crest picture from Lois. Particularly when she had emphasized to Lois in their previous scene about how much Lois could “trust her.” In Sneeze, Chloe admitted to Lois that she is jealous of her, but not for her journalistic abilities. I’m curious how far they will take this, and if this show is big enough for two female superstar reporters.''
From SupermanHomepage.com: http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville6-ep04
Dounglas Trumble's review: ''Lois has more screen time than Clark and they go a long way to pushing this Lois towards the tenacious go-getter that Superman fans know and love. I have a feeling that Chloe is going to be in for a big surprise some day. I know I was greatly amused by her being the one to name the Green Arrow but yet the world not quite getting it right when the "bandit" part of the name kept being left off.''
Even Neal Bailey, who is scathing towards Lois normally, had some good things to say about her.
''Nonetheless, she embarrasses the senator rather beautifully, and at a time when senators are failing us and have an incredibly low approval rating (something near 16% approval right now), it's fun to take potshots at the @#%$%#@$. It's also more in character. She's a bich to people who deserve it, that's Lois. I actually really dug her this episode, for the most part, and she had a reason to be there, a centralized motivating factor. Her story. Now, is there any reason for her to live with the Kents, or to be Martha's campaign manager? Negatory. But now she has a focus, a motivation, and a reason. I DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT like that fact that she's an insta-journalist, but if it continues to give her this kind of feel and play on the show, I'll accept it. Which is odd, because usually I don't want to take incoherent story leaps. But this isn't like Lionel trying to become a good guy (BS), this is the show taking actual, if long steps to rectify their character failures. I'll take it. Just as Clark is going from not realizing his destiny to considering Metropolis. I'll almost take it just to say "FINALLY." Because really, after six years, it's time. It's past time, so they almost have to be hasty now.
Lois actually steps up, in character, stops being the doormat for heroes or baddies, and says that she's not the territory and the prize. That's bloody GREAT.''
Posted by: Kim | October 23, 2006 12:14 PM
"Until Fade Chloe was not worried that Clark was not interested in journalism. But in Fade she was suddenly encouraging Clark to get into journalism by giving him a press pass. Why because the story she was working on needed his abilities and she got her first page byline."
The reason she brought Clark along was because she was concerned that he was spending all his time grieving over the loss of his dad and Lana in his loft. It was clearly stated in the opening dialogue, try paying attention next time. And by the way, at the time she brought Clark along, there was no case - they were just covering a trial! The Chameleon had yet to kill the star witness, and she had idea he would even be involved. Nice try though.
This is LOIS LANE!! Lois is a liar, Lois is also a stealer, she is shameless, she is arrogant, she is a bi*** and when it comes to getting a byline, she wants to just get it regardless of the consequences.
I'm sorry, but that's just pathetic. The only way you can justify EDLois' lack of integrity is to bring down the reputation of the Icon as a whole? I hardly consider her stealing a scoop the same as intentionally deceiving the public with phony headlines. EDLois is lying to the entire city, and doing so on a consistent basis!
Posted by: Josh | October 23, 2006 10:11 AM
Until Fade Chloe was not worried that Clark was not interested in journalism. But in Fade she was suddenly encouraging Clark to get into journalism by giving him a press pass. Why because the story she was working on needed his abilities and she got her first page byline. Has she ever given him a press pass before or after that episode.
The more and more I see Chloe after she joined DP she is similar to Jimmy. Clark and Lois do the legwork and Chloe does the research for them.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2006 8:53 AM
"Arrow is such a wonderful episode that after watching it two or three times, you always notice something good and new, but did anyone notice Chloe’s expression after receiving Lois’s call? “Lois is in trouble” Plain flat!"
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Arrow was a good episode yes. But can we stop all the bashing just for a moment! So first, Chloe is manipulative and deceitful, then Lois is a liar and fraud and whatever.....so on these blogs we are putting one cousin against the other, and NOW Chloe is sooo evil that allegedly she doesn't care if her cousin is in trouble!!
No matter how much anyone hates Chloe or Lois, you cant spin that. Maybe she is jealous whatever...but I will never believe that she would not be worried for her cousin and I would hope that the writer's would never spin that...
She WAS WORRIED, and told Clark she was in trouble so she could help her!
This Lois-Chloe bashing and over-analyzing the episode to prove a point is getting out if control.
Claire, can we have a blog to support Chlo-Lo love so I, and others who want Chlo-Lo back can post there??? Maybe the SV writers can see what damage they are doing to the cousins in the eyes of fans and fix their ways....
All this bashing on either side is beginning to get painful.
Posted by: meg | October 23, 2006 8:52 AM
Arrow is such a wonderful episode that after watching it two or three times, you always notice something good and new, but did anyone notice Chloe’s expression after receiving Lois’s call? “Lois is in trouble” Plain flat!
Lois was yelling for help and Chloe was like “Lois has been kidnapped, let’s go watch a movie or something” What the hell?
Fine, the writers are showing her jealous of Lois and all, but hey, she is still your cousin, she’ll run to help you without thinking a second! Honestly, I am not liking what the writers are doing with Chloe this season, first she was super Chloe and now she is jealous Chloe?
If you don’t know where to take her, just end her! Lois is now in journalism, show her in Daily Planet, I don’t think Chloe is needed anyway!!
I loved the fact that Clark didn’t tell Chloe about GA, she doesn’t need to know everything. In a way, Clark also protected Lois’s story because she is writing about GA, not Chloe! I loved it.
Posted by: Maleka | October 23, 2006 12:35 AM
One more episode down. Temp Lois needs to ge. The more they show of her, the less I like her. No ethics whatsoever, a liar and a self centered fool. Not my Lois Lane.
I did like Ollie though, him and Clark, I like that. Just leave Lois out of it. She makes everything ten times worse.
Posted by: me | October 23, 2006 12:12 AM
Lois and Clark: TNAS – First season Episode (Third or fourth, don’t really remember)
Clark tells Lois about a scoop on Superman, Lois is dying to get a story on Superman. She steals his story and writes a byline with her name, and then she is feeling very sorry about it, even Lucy calls her a “stealer” and that she should be ashamed. When Clark confronts her, she instead of saying sorry, says she was teaching him a lesson never to trust anyone in this business!!!!
This is LOIS LANE!! Lois is a liar, Lois is also a stealer, she is shameless, she is arrogant, she is a bi*** and when it comes to getting a byline, she wants to just get it regardless of the consequences.
Now you know why everyone is comparing Erica to Teri’s Lois in Arrow? Lois is a real bad person, you wouldn’t want your precious Chloe to be corrupted like that, so keep her safe and make her write obituaries in her little basement in the Daily Planet! Top floor is only for the people who make their way up there!
And by the way, Clark falls in love with this arrogant woman Lois Lane, who is a stealer and liar, so that makes Clark also a person with no perspective or respect for principles at all! They are two bad people who are fit for each other, Chloe deserves someone better than Clark!
Smallville is not a show for Chloe fans, you should be happy with Chloe Chronicles or something!
Posted by: Winchestergirl | October 23, 2006 12:06 AM
There are so many positive posts really trying to differentiate between the methods of journalism Lois and Chloe use, but the only reply Chloe fans are coming up with again and again is Lois is a liar. No explanations, no proper arguments, no solid and strong points to back up your claim, plain bashing, nothing more.
I am sure next week, Chloe fans will come up with something new to bash Lois, as if Erica writes the script for Lois herself.
“Lois” did not doing anything on her own, which “Chloe” would never do, you don’t know what Chloe would do next week? They will both do whatever is written in the script for them. If the writers want Chloe to lie for a situation, they will make her, you cannot claim she will never lie because “Chloe” is not in your hands to shape.
Like for example keeping information from Lois was also “lying”, but none of the Lois fans are coming up with posts such as “Chloe is a liar”. We know it was in the script and writers know what they are doing.
Writers wanted Lois to be shown to stretch her story so that she may expose and bring Green Arrow to limelight. Now everyone is talking about Green Arrow, thanks to Lois. In weeks to come, she’ll be working more and more on GA and exposing more secrets, and in the process learning more about journalism and her methods.
Writers know where they are taking Lois, if they are showing her journalism methods as flawed, it is because they want to show her in her learning phase. That doesn’t make “Chloe” perfect or a better because you don’t know which way writers are taking with Chloe.
As for the episode Lockdown, Lois didn’t take the money from Lionel, Martha did. And the scene between Jonathan and Lois was so beautiful and well written that it is a shame that anyone would use it for bashing.
Lois was ready to take blame for something she did not do. Martha had to tell Jonathan that she took the money and when Jonathan asks her: Why didn’t you tell me? She still didn’t blame Martha but says, “The decision to use it was still mine” Does Jonathan call her a liar? He didn’t even call Martha a liar when he yelled at her in the loft. No, he never would because he saw how the two women who cared about him most in the world were doing something to protect him. That is a great scene and shows what a wonderful person Lois is.
It shows the strength she has and it was one of the most touching scenes. It truly showed why Kents consider Lois a part of their family? Neither Lana or Chloe had or can have that place in the Kents’ hearts, only Lois can have it because she truly is family.
I feel sad for even the writers that they put so much effort and write something so beautiful but the fans who are watching the show cannot praise their work because all they are busy doing is bashing.
At least we Lois fans are proud that we point out the flaws Lois has and request the writers to remove them instead of constantly saying “Lois is perfect” because we know she is not. Not a single character on Smallville is perfect. We can point out a whole list of flaws in Clark Kent’s character that are keeping him away from the iconic Clark. But does that mean that we love Tom Welling any less? Or should we not accept his character at all and keep saying this is not the real Clark?
Has any single Chloe fan pointed out that Chloe is acting out of character with regards to her cousin. Why did not once Chloe encourage Lois? Why did she keep information from Lois? Why sudden sarcasm towards Lois?
I think “Chlo-Lo” lovers are also only Lois fans, for they are the ones who love to see the cousins close to each other, I haven’t even seen a single Chloe fan demanding to get “Chlo-Lo” back, because if they do it, it is like they are accepting Lois as Lois.
I don’t think there is anything to argue because all I have stated are facts. If Chloe fans can come up with some better discussion as “Lois is a Liar” they are welcome to add their opinions.
Posted by: QueenBee | October 22, 2006 11:45 PM
>>Lois motivation is far better than Chloe's in their dealings with Lionel.<<
Lois' BENEFIT? To WIN. To get what she wanted.
She got into Met U that way. She got Jonathan elected that way. She got her front page of the paper that way.
Lois doesn't care about the effect on the people so long as she gets what she wants.
That isn't Lois Lane. That might be Cat Grant, that might even be Lucy Lane. That ain't Lois Lane.
Chloe once made a deal to get what she wanted too - and it cost her her home, her job, her dad's job, her future careers, her college fund, her friends, her dignity, and her respect.
Yeah, that's real even.
Posted by: Maria | October 22, 2006 7:34 PM
>.Lois didn't accept the money from Lionel. It was Martha who did it and Lois spent it<
And thus her Luthor-Free candidate became a Luthor-Backed candidate.
She made a judgement call that the people didn't need to know that. That the people didn't need to know the TRUTH about their senator.
She made the same call here - that the people didn't need to know the TRUTH that the Green Arrow was actually striking against the rich, dirty, and corrupt.
Spin all you like - she's a liar to the public at an age where she should know better.
A 23 year old isn't compairable to a 16 year old. Especially one who doesn't suffer for her misdeeds.
Posted by: Maggie | October 22, 2006 7:30 PM
I was blown away by this episode. The best of the season, along with Zod.
Lois is my favourite character on the show, and this ep did full justice to her. Her attitude, her scenes, the way Erica acted, it was all quintissentially Lois to me.
Clark had some great scenes too, especially him trying to save Lois, and his last scene with Ollie.
Lana really surprised me in this ep, and the Luthors are as interesting as ever.
Great job, 'Smallville'!
Posted by: alexis | October 22, 2006 5:14 PM
hey, let's not call all Chloe fans Lois haters and let's not call all Lois fans Chloe haters...because there are some of us in the middle who like both, and see no need to bash anyone of them in these blogs.
Power to both of them!
PS: SV Writers: I want Shelby, Clark with his shirt off, sexy!Kal, more evil Lex and some REAL Kryptonian baddies...not lame ones like Gloria
Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2006 5:06 PM
"Actually I've been calling Lois a liar ever since she accepted, spent, and lied about money from Lionel"
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Lois didn't accept the money from Lionel. It was Martha who did it and Lois spent it because she thought JK would be a better senator than Lois and people would benefit from it. What was the personal benefit for Lois from it. Nothing.
Chloe accepted to spy on Clark just because Lionel offered her byline at DP?. She accepted to investigate Clark and spoil the Kents lives all because of jealousy and her personal benefit. Lois motivation is far better than Chloe's in their dealings with Lionel.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2006 4:01 PM
totally! where was clark kent?!!?!?!?!?!
everything he did this episode was something i wanted to see him do. instead i got 'lollieville.'
where was clark?!!?!?
Posted by: bella | October 22, 2006 3:43 PM
Actually I've been calling Lois a liar ever since she accepted, spent, and lied about money from Lionel and still spun Jonathan as the wholesome Non Luthor Choice.
She sold out her stated morals to win last year, a trend that was followed in Sneeze where she lied to the people about the 'alien' angle.
Now she's lying about the Kidnapping and how close she was to finding him.
She 0 in 4 for telling the truth to the people.
And that's not Lois Lane.
Posted by: Jenny | October 22, 2006 2:35 PM
>>. Lois doesn't do research, she just makes all of her stories about her, and then makes up whatever details she needs to fill in the gaps.<<
And Chloe is floating her career by allowing her to mooch.
Sorry, Durance's character ain't Lois Lane. ILL would never let someone else do the job for her, and would never be content with not getting the Truth.
Posted by: Ben | October 22, 2006 2:27 PM
>>Lois lied? How did you know? Did you read her article?<<
"KIDNAPPED BY THE GREEN ARROW!"
No, she was kidnapped by SafeTEX.
Spin 'till one's heart is content, but she's not "perfect" and people who have valid complaints shouldn't be pushed off as "haters" or "Chloe fans" (neither, until this season I LIKED Lois and now she's a trainwreck.)
So to take a line from Lana Lang - quit spinning your rumor mill. It ain't working.
Posted by: Mike | October 22, 2006 2:25 PM
As a Clark fan I loved the character development Clark had this episode. This episode proved even if Clark is getting into the superhero business late in the game why he will be a leader of the Justice League in the future. I also liked how Clark did his own legwork and connected the dots instead of Chloe doing it for him which proved he has a brain and he can think. Please do not make him go back on both accounts.
Posted by: jamchand | October 22, 2006 12:26 PM
- Lois and Journalism – I think we are seeing why Lois is in a league of her own. She has her flaws and qualities.
And why is that? Because she's a lier? Three times now she has submitted a bogus article just to get a headline. That is NOT like iconic Lois Lane.
“Kidnapped by Green Arrow” was a reference to “My night with Superman”.
Not even close! "My night with Superman" was a TRUE story - it actually happened. But Lois was never kidnapped by the Green Arrow, you know it, I know it, and most importantly Lois knows it! And even in the article before that, she claims that she was close to identifying the Green Arrow, but her only evidence was lost. She had nothing on him at that point, and even Oliver pointed out to Lois: "you're not nearly as close to IDing this guy as you claim to be." Wow, two articles in one episode, and both of them dishonest... not MY Lois Lane. Iconic Lois would never do that, and Chloe has never done that. And when you throw in the Sneeze article, where she writes about aliens even though she herself didn't think it had anything to do with aliens? THREE articles, THREE dishonest headlines. Are you kidding me???? And about her integrity - sorry, but her integrity has been questioned by BOTH of the superheroes on the show, once by Clark and once by Green Arrow. Think about it... the only two heros on the show, and both of them have pointed out Lois' lack of integrity?
She stretched her story a bit, yes, no argument on that, but that doesn’t mean she has no integrity, it means she lacks discipline and thinking pattern that is required for this profession.
Sorry, but no. She did not stretch the truth, she LIED. Plain and simple. She spoke directly to the SafeTEX guy who explained to her exactly who they were and why they had taken her! And when GA told her that he saved her, she acknowledges that it was not him who kidnapped her and that it was the SafeTEX goons. So she lied, quit trying to euphemize it - no amount of spin will change that.
- We also get to see why Lois and Chloe are two different types of reporters and can never be compared. Chloe is more of a desk-job person. We’ve seen 99.99% of Chloe’s scenes in the past season and in this are at the DP set.
Ummm, you might wanna check out seasons 1-5 of Smallville and the Chloe Chronicles I, II and III (VCs). And oh yeah, while you're at it, take a look at the Smallville comic too. I can't even count the number of times Chloe has gotten herself into trouble going out into the field to investigate. And what exactly did Lois even investigate in this episode? Name for me one thing. It was Chloe who figures out how to improve the image quality so that it was readable. It was Chloe who thought to have the metal in the arrows analyzed. It was Chloe who made the connection between the thefts and the anonymous donations. And it was Chloe who suggested she drop "bandit" from the name, which Lois did. Lois doesn't do research, she just makes all of her stories about her, and then makes up whatever details she needs to fill in the gaps. Even in Sneeze, what did she actually research? What we saw in the article was a blurb about Microbursts... gee, where did she get that idea? Oh yeah, CHLOE again.
Posted by: Dr Noonien Soong | October 22, 2006 11:18 AM
"I think it is high time the fan created Chloe-Lois competition should come to an end. Arrow clearly shows that Chloe and Lois are different in all respects. Chloe and Lois are not just “names” They are people. They are both journalists, and very different type of journalists."
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That's a good point. They are different people, different journalists..one is more seasonsed while one is developing...nothing wrong with that. And yes, this "Chloe against Lois" argument is getting old on both sides.
The are both good characters, each developing in their own way, with their own good qualities and faults that make them both human.
I'm not gonna play the game of who is better than the other, because I don't think the SV writers should even remotely consider putting one against the other in any way, shape or form. Maybe if they were 2 random people with no ties to one another....but not for cousins..no way...
so..different people, different journalists...different roles...just different...let's see where SV takes these 2
Posted by: woody1 | October 22, 2006 11:06 AM
I saw the last scene with Clark and Oliver in the loft again and couldn’t help but notice how wonderfully it is written. The dialogues between Clark and Ollie are so amazing, they draw a line between the two different kinds of heroes they are. Clark would never do something like stealing which Oliver deems right, though he is also a savior in his own league.
It also shows the inner conflict of Clark on what he wants to become and how? For the first time, he ponders he could save more people than the ones around him.
And Oliver’s comment: “Are you and Lois starting a fan club..” was so funny, it was actually a foreshadowing of Clark and Lois’s future of working together.
I am counting this scene as one of the best scenes in season 6 so far.
If we are done with the weekly ‘Chloe is the best and Lois is the worst’ talk can we put in some good reviews for this episode. As it was all in all very good. It needs to be praised and the writers need to be encouraged for writing a good script that took the story forward and brought out the iconic characters of the show instead of a FOTW filler.
Posted by: Shalimarfox80 | October 22, 2006 6:06 AM
Chloe fans had to come out with some excuse or other to bash Lois so this week, she becomes a liar, doesn’t matter at all!! even the writers and producers also know that now that Chloe fans do nothing but come here and bash Erica week after week. No constructive reviews, no remarks, no contribution from them at all!!
But if anything, it is only making Erica’s character more and more perfect day by day.
“Chloe wouldn’t lie” Honestly who cares? What is Chloe to this story anyway? I think she has become more of writers tool to show this is “NOT” the journalist the iconic Lois Lane will become. I think it shows more why Al Miles brought Erica to the show, they wanted to show that Chloe is more of a behind the desk person, Smallville’s Jimmy Olsen, she is not the kick a** reporter Lois Lane will become!!
Recall one worth mentioning Chloe byline?
Green Arrow becomes talk of the town because of Lois's article. Recall one Chloe project that made any difference to the story of the show or gave her a byline that caused a stir?
Vampires? Oh that didn't get published!!
Don’t mention her first one in Daily Planet either, because it was only there because Lois and Clark did the field job for her, what did she do? Sit at her computer and type the story.
Lois lied? How did you know? Did you read her article? Just because she used the word “stretch” gave you the excuse for this week’s Erica bashing theme – “Liar.”
She has little experience in journalism, did Chloe once, just once, encourage her? Lois did the dirty job for her in Exposed, what did Chloe do? Keep information from her. Great hero your Chloe is!!
And we’ve seen Margot and Teri’s Lois WHEN they already had become successful reporters, Erica is the first Lois that shows the struggling days of Lois Lane. Whatever she does becomes part of a greater mythos where Chloe doesn’t even exist.
I am proud and happy that the writers are making Lois more and more important to this story, I even like the new Chloe’s jealousy of Lois theme. It will make Lois see who her real friends are and finally she’ll become a great reporter on her own.
And Chloe fans, come up with something better than "Liar" next time!!
Posted by: QueenBee | October 22, 2006 5:48 AM
So, EDLois lies on her article yet again. This is character development? After two seasons and going into her third, she lies on her second article. There's no way to spin that, no way to make it better. She continues to be a dissappointment.
Posted by: Tig | October 22, 2006 2:36 AM
>> We should see the characters how they are written, without bias. If there is a good thing, praise it, if there is something you don’t like, criticize. <<
And Lois admits to her ethicless brand of journalism with a smile on her face.
She lies to the public, something Chloe didn't even do back in high school. That's not a bias, that's just fact.
Stick a fork in her, because her chance of ever now believably being Lois Lane is done.
Posted by: Jenny | October 22, 2006 1:59 AM
The attempted spin job for Erica's character is admirable but like this episode, it's too little and far too late to ever make her a beliebable Lois Lane.
People keep asking about Clark, which I second, but also where the hell is Lex?
Clark and Lex? I remember the days when we had Clark and Lex. We even had Chloe and Lana. Awh, the good old days when ratings were hire and characters we actually cared about had more than 10 minutes of screen time.
Now instead we've got the aptly named "Lollieville." And yup, it's as dull as it sounds.
Posted by: Teresa | October 22, 2006 1:57 AM
Where was Clark? I watch for Clark - not for the hackneyed "Lois Lane." Not for Green Arrow. For Clark.
The Man of Steel? Superman. Yeah him. I watch for him.
Tired of Lollieville. Chlarkuthoropolis is much more entertaining.
Posted by: SyfyFan | October 22, 2006 1:54 AM
Dude, there was nothing like Teri or Margot's Lois in Erica this week. Teri and Margot's Lois both had very strong stances on the stories that they wrote - they didn't LIE.
Add me to those who want to see more Clark, more Lex, more of Dark!Lana, Chloe, and who are counting down the episodes until Durance is gone for the season.
Posted by: Rachel | October 22, 2006 1:52 AM
I think it is high time the fan created Chloe-Lois competition should come to an end. Arrow clearly shows that Chloe and Lois are different in all respects. Chloe and Lois are not just “names” They are people. They are both journalists, and very different type of journalists.
- Lois didn’t “beg” Chloe to do anything. Clark uses Chloe as his search engine all the time, Lois did the same. What is the big deal? Lois and Clark do ask for help from Jimmy in DP all the time. Besides, Chloe has more experience in the profession so why not? And she owed Lois, didn’t Lois go undercover to give Chloe her first byline in “Exposed”? But even then, Chloe kept some information away from Lois.
- Chloe is a reporter at DP, but it is not like she is a top notch journalist with front page articles published all the time. She is still in the making too. We haven’t really seen what kind of work she is doing at DP, what kind of stuff she is writing because the writers never showed it. They didn’t deem it necessary to show Chloe’s work as it has no impact on the progression of Superman story.
Lois’s work on the other hand has a strong impact on the future of this story, so her articles and bylines are shown on the show. “Kidnapped by Green Arrow” was a reference to “My night with Superman”. Lois gives him the name Green Arrow just like she gave the name “Superman” to the superhero. She stretched her story a bit, yes, no argument on that, but that doesn’t mean she has no integrity, it means she lacks discipline and thinking pattern that is required for this profession. Soon, with experience or as she slowly progresses and joins DP, these flaws will be removed.
Just like Superman will learn to fly, Lois will learn the rules of journalism.
- I thought Lois would be the one who sees Chloe as a rival but it is totally the opposite. Chloe sees Lois stepping into her territory as a threat. Strange behavior from Chloe for a cousin who loves her more than a sister, but I guess it is a way of writers to show the other side of Chloe too. We have seen this perfect best friend in Chloe and nothing more. Now we can see that Chloe is a real person, a believable person too. I am sure they’ll never make Chloe a bad person, sooner or later she’ll realize her own flaws too, and the cousins can become an inevitable team!
I don’t think “Chloe is better, she has integrity and Lois is a liar” are mature arguments. We should see the characters how they are written, without bias. If there is a good thing, praise it, if there is something you don’t like, criticize. That is what makes our characters better!
Posted by: Shalimarfox80 | October 21, 2006 9:51 PM
My Verdict on Arrow: One of the best episodes ever. It had the very comic book-ish feel to it and above all, it had what unfortunately we have recently seen happening rarely on Smallville: A cleverly written script.
- Clark Kent was shown truly as a super hero. His entire tone and body language has changed. He was subtle, silent and pondering on the entire situation. He may have not liked Ollie’s methods but surely he considered how he could make a difference too. Amazing!
- I saw Teri’s Lois in Erica in this episode. She was arrogant, sassy, stubborn, and determined. She is slowly transforming into the Lois we’ll all know as the DP top reporter.
- I am falling in love with Kristin’s characterization. I never thought Lana could be presented in this way. She has found a new way to hide her insecurities but I am assuming sooner or later she’ll reach a breaking point. It would be interesting if more of her inner conflicts are shown.
- Lex was creepy, and Loinel was creepy, and that is how we love our Luthors. Their end scene together was very.. wicked! I loved it.
- Should we fall in love with Oliver? We can’t help it! He is so awesome and this whole Batman feel to his scenes were terrific.
I would like to specifically comment on few things:
- Clark/Lois/Oliver scene was amazing. Nothing like any fan would’ve expected. For the first time, Clark and Lois stood in front of each other, not as bantering teenagers but as a man and a woman, their expressions, their discomfort was truly awesome. I think the writers are given us less but quality Tom/Erica scenes. The way Clark reacts to “geek” and Lois’s apologetic behavior speaks volumes about the maturity in their friendship. I love the fact that Oliver was the one who felt threatened by Clark. This is how exactly it should be. When he says: “Smallville, you’re Clark Kent?” It feels like he’s saying, “Oh Oh, he’s not a geek or nerd, he is a real big, huge, threat” Awesome!
- Lois and Journalism – I think we are seeing why Lois is in a league of her own. She has her flaws and qualities. She is a hard hitting journalist but she is using a soldier’s approach: “Get things done, no matter how!” She doesn’t have the idea yet that journalism is a different kind of battle ground and you need different tools here. Inquisitor is a tabloid and doesn’t care much about integrity, but soon more experience will make her realize that presenting the facts is as important as getting the results you want. I have no problems with Lois’s characterization in this episode. Her flaws make her believable, removing those flaws will make her iconic. We are loving the journey!
- We also get to see why Lois and Chloe are two different types of reporters and can never be compared. Chloe is more of a desk-job person. We’ve seen 99.99% of Chloe’s scenes in the past season and in this are at the DP set. She is more of a data collector and Clark does field work for her. Lois on the other hand has “the General’s” approach of “Go get it” she is more of a field worker, a kick a** reporter, which is why she gets herself into danger with her first real story. This never happened to Chloe. They are both journalists but very different from each other. And it doesn’t make neither more superior than other. Both have different methods of getting the same work done.
- Clark/Ollie loft scene was amazing. The entire dialogues could make such an important impact on the whole season if only handled well in later episodes. Clark actually wondered for the first time, he could do more than helping just his friends and family, he could help the entire world!
Sorry for the long post. I loved Arrow so much I had to praise all of it!
Posted by: Shalimarfox80 | October 21, 2006 9:35 PM
P.S...maybe we should be saying "shame on Clark" too for encouraging Chloe's "competitive streak" and not blinking twice when she told him...didn't he even smile???....i guess Chloe is all evil and Clark encouraging her goes unnoticed.
SHAME ON CLARK
Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2006 8:20 PM
people, people...we are all making alot of assumptions about Lois's lack of journalism, and Chloe being really low etc etc etc...
but, for starters, we do not know what Lois wrote in the article, we only saw the tittle. We also do not know what info Chloe did or did not give her. We are quick to say that Chloe is low and didn't help her cousin, but we never got to see whether she helped her out with the DP database for other info after they woke up from being wiped out or whatever....we have no proof of what help she got or didn't get...because they didn't include that in the story.
Second, everyone has forgotten one thing: the writers DID NOT WANT Lois to see what was on the ring. Remember that if she did see the crest, that would give away the WHOLE STORY! Lois spends so much time in Oliver's apartment, she would have obviously seen the crest on the wall (as we did when Ollie and Clark shook hands), and then that would be the end of the mystery.
They had to find a way to make her not see what was on the ring so that the plot wouldn't end then and there.
I figured they also didn't want Chloe knowing yet either. She most likely will not be in Ollie's apartment so I doubt that she will find out anytime soon. Most likely she will find out the same time as Lois.
So, we can make alot of assumptions about what Chloe did or didnt do...but the point is that it fit in with the plot-just as Clark deleting her files fit in with the plot. Unless someone can find an alternate story, give it to the writers and make them redo the episode, then all we can do is make alot of assumptions about the characters' "ulterior motives", and express our upset about who is being manipulative and lying.
I agree with everyone that we need the Chlo-Lo love back. I miss it. But if Lois gets all access to all information now, then we won't be in "Smallville"...we will be in "Superman Returns". I wish they would find another means of her not getting all access to all info besides making Chloe keep it from her, because they are destroying one of the best things in the show-family ties.
I prefer to wait and see where the writers take it-it is still early in the season.
Posted by: meg | October 21, 2006 8:17 PM
I want Chlo-Lo back! I don't want Lois thinking she can't share everything with Chloe (although at the end we kinda saw she couldn't...) and I certainly don't want Chloe lying to Lois! What is that about not telling her of the new rendering of the ring! and with that smug face! like she was doing something great and she was so brilliant...
She certainly has gone very low...
I hope TPTB don't ruin their relationship cause it is the best one on the show.
Posted by: missysue | October 21, 2006 5:16 PM
Chloe told Lois that she mumbling through the database is like teaching Clark how to dance. And she had not given any results of the research to Lois. She told Clark that she might have forgotten to let Lois know about the image of the crest from the ring. So whatever Lois wrote was from her own experience with GA. Apparently it was Chloe who withheld the information from Lois. I don't see anybody complaining about Chloe betraying Lois trust. And I think Lois will learn her lesson from this episode not to trust her cousin anymore.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2006 5:01 PM
This was one heck of an episode!! A little more Clark and it would have been perfect but I think Oliver in town is gonna greta for the show.
Beside, one thing that I find very interesting is that we are gonna get to see Lois in a relationship with a superhero that has a lot of diferences from her future husband (such us a mask and his methods) but at the same time he really wants to save the world. I wanna see what she does when she finds out GA is Oliver!!!
I love this show!
Posted by: contdes1 | October 21, 2006 4:51 PM
"Do you think Lois will ever soften her stance on masked superheroes? We suspect she'll stick to the hard-line distrust of masked men for some time to come. But maybe this experience with Ollie will make her that much more receptive to Clark when he finally reveals all..."
Come on...first: where is the jealous Clark you all from CW and the writers said we would see in this episode?
I love Lois in the comics but i just can't stand her in Smallville. She lied in her article AGAIN!!!! And is it coincidence that Chloe said she'd drop the Bandit and we see Lois' article just as the Green Arrow? I'm still trying to see where Lois researched for the Green Arrow! Come on she even had to get Chloe's help!!!! I just hate EDlois, i won't forget what she said to Chloe: She goes there, ASKS FOR HELP and then says that she doesn't trust Chloe???
And when "Smallville" became the "Green Arrow and Lois" show? I just saw the description of "Rage" and i'm happy to know that this is Lois' 7th episode from the 13 episodes.
A WANT MORE CLARK!!!
Posted by: Mary | October 21, 2006 4:51 PM
I love Lois and Ollie together, I'm a die hard cloiser but i can't deny they have a great chemistry. And I can't wait to see the Clark/LOIs/Oliver triangle develop! I feel this season is gonna be great.
And way to go ollie to call Clark on all his sh*t! :)
Posted by: Tomas | October 21, 2006 4:48 PM
LOIS LANE KISS ASS!!! Yes! We finally got to see again how Lois is nowhere near a damsel in distress..., she totally rocks!
Posted by: trix | October 21, 2006 4:46 PM
Amazing episode!! I loved that it had lots of Lois, we should have more eppys of her :)
And her chemistry with Oliver is so great!. I like how you guys are portraying their relationship, fun, sweet but with also banter... err it reminds me of her relationship with another person...lol
And thank god! we finally got rid of the SuperChloe! well I hope this tendency stays, Clark need to do things on his own!
I hope Oliver makes him realize that hidind behinf Chloe's skirt isn't gonna take him anywhere.
Again, great episode! and Erica did an amazing job.
Posted by: arlette | October 21, 2006 4:45 PM
Kal ski mask?? YES, BRING THAT TOO!!! MORE KAL! MORE KAL! Bad Bad naughty sexy Kal..more of that!!
MORE KAL!!
Posted by: Kal_Love | October 21, 2006 3:31 PM
Well, everybody has different opinions on different episodes. Doesn't mean that anyone is watching an ''alternate reality'' if those opinions happen to clash.
I personally loved the episode. Thoroughly enjoyable. Great character moments and an exciting plot.
Terrific Clark scenes where he was mindful and respectful of the superhero code, and his interaction with Green Arrow has set up certain aspects of the season beautifully.
I love Lois, but I don't think I've ever seen her quite in the glory as she was in this episode. Brilliant stuff! Everything from her going after the Green Arrow to stop him, to being hell bent on unmasking him, was a treat to watch. All of Lois' strong points were out in play in this episode - her loyalty, her physical prowess, and her determination.
The Luthors story is a little fuzzy for me right now, but it's looking to set up some intetresting future points.
Bravo, Smallville!
Posted by: Rhea | October 21, 2006 3:03 PM
I do believe this was some alternate reality Smallville watched by people who saw Lois investigating and writing. In the episode I saw, She couldn't even do her own research and begged her cousin Chloe, who works for a real newspaper to do it for her it for her. Lois does have her own computer and anyone can do research unless they're too lazy to take the time.
And, since things Chloe suggested turned up in "Lois"' article, I'd say Chloe may well be writing her articles for her or she might as well be since Lois writes what she hears Chloe saying and makes up the rest, lying about whatever happened (Kidnapped by Green Arrow!) just to get her pathetic story printed. She is no reporter and Lois didn't bring it, she blew it. What an awful excuse for Lois Lane. Send her off to Europe to look for her sister, stat.
Tom Welling was great as always but there was too little of him. More Clark! Clark needs to figure out the secret identity schtick soon, even if he only goes back to wearing his Kal ski mask. He once realized glasses changes his appearance substantially and maybe it's time he thought that through again.
Posted by: Earl Gray | October 21, 2006 12:10 PM
I really like that all of Lana's prior passive agressive streak has been really built up for the Lana we have now.
Also that Lex is finally really taking his role of S3 - he's doing evil things ina misguided attempt to save the world.
That is super cool.
I love that Clark definately has learned his lessons over time and know what he believes in for sure; he knows where the line is. He felt very very Superman this week, self assured, smart, willing to pop in and do the right thing. Even if he was MIA most of the night.
And what little we saw of Chloe was great; she's are go-to gall, our journalist who can't stop looking for the truth, and who wants to see justice for all of those other people in the world. Clark's perfect partner to help his crusade, totally.
And while I like Green Arrow enough, and Olliver, and Justin Hartley - I have to agree with others Lollieville and shoving a Lying!Lois is just plain insulting to the long term fans. Where's Clark
Posted by: Sam | October 21, 2006 12:09 PM
I miss the Old Lana, from season 1 and 2
Also I miss Clark & Lana dearly.
I can't watch smallville with out them.
Posted by: I miss Lana | October 21, 2006 9:29 AM
I liked Lana a lot for the first time! The Green Arrow is growing on me..I thought he did a good job this week. I would like to see more Clark, not enough of him in this one.
I loved Chloe's scenes they were brief but I loved that the writers remembered she is so curious. All I will say about Lois is that I still don't buy her as a journalist. Why can't she do her own research?
Posted by: gogeta | October 21, 2006 4:08 AM
It's nice to see a new addition to the Luthor familial dysfunction--Lana. :) They were one of the best parts of the episode. The other great aspect of "Arrow" is Oliver and Clark. Can't wait for the "Justice" episode!!
Posted by: TRP | October 20, 2006 11:50 PM
GA and Clark confrontations were real good. I loved all the special effects in this episode. Clark was real good in this episode. He behaved like a young Superman. He did his own investigation instead of SuperChloe doing all the work which is a good thing. Lana/Lex/Lionel who is playing whom is intriguing.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2006 10:45 PM
please... stop bashing... i think this episode was great...
THIS IS ONLY FOR SMALLVILLE FANS:
i love both lois and chloe...
they´re showing a real chloe who is not perfect ... her reaction is not from an evil person, she´s just acting normal!!! i think everyone would act like that when suddenly your cousin finds "her calling " in something you had fight for since a long time...
and i know the writers are not showing nice scenes between cousins...that is making me mad!!!
i actually like lana in this episode (kk did a great job)
tom and ollie scenes...amazing
lex and lionel...omg...lex was testing lana!
Posted by: SMALLVILLEROCKS | October 20, 2006 10:42 PM
Lana was oustanding in this episode. Speaking like a Luthor. I love it! :)
Posted by: Angie | October 20, 2006 9:46 PM
pfftt...I laugh at this Lois Smallvile is trying to make me swallow.
no way will she ever be the journalist of all Superman media.
Too much Green Arrow, too little Clark!!!!!!! not enough Chloe.
Posted by: derek | October 20, 2006 8:54 PM
I liked the episode but I thought it needed more Clark, Chloe, Lex and Lana. I don't find Lois appealing at all and I thought the scenes that involved Lois and Ollie dragged and were boring.
Posted by: Ani | October 20, 2006 8:43 PM
Well, I have been reading, All the comments and apparently most of the EDLoisers watched a completely different episode from the one I did...
Exactly in what moment is EdLois investigating??
And unless I'm completely wrong.. it could happen ;), wasn't "My night with Superman" a real story?? About a real interview Lois Lane has with Superman?? And not a bogus story about a kidnapping that never happened??
The Lois Lane of the comics never printed stuff that wasn't real, had a real ethic regarding work, witness, sources and the fact that you say.. "she's still learning the ropes" doesn't mean that lying and getting headlines by "creating" stories??.
Might be wrong, after all, is only a character that has been loved for over 50 years around the world!!!
If you prefer a bogus, lying Lois Lane I guess to each it's own.
Posted by: Erin_21 | October 20, 2006 7:44 PM
Enough of Lollieville. If they're so perfect, give them their own show. Bring back Smallville. No more Temp Lois and Temp Superhero aka Green Arrow.
Posted by: Anya | October 20, 2006 7:26 PM
Loved evil Lana!! That's when KK is at her best!
Not enough Chlark in the ep. though. :(
SV would be much better if it went back to the way it was when it focused on it's main characters: Clark, Lex, Chloe and Lana. Please get rid of "Lois" asap!
Posted by: this is IT | October 20, 2006 7:02 PM
Didn't care much at all for this episode. I don't think the show needs any new character being focused on as much as Arrow is. I like the character better than when he first arrived, but still, eh. Stay focused on Clark, Lex, and Chloe - the three destined ones.
Posted by: abundant skies | October 20, 2006 6:58 PM
I don't have a problem with Lois learning the ropes of journalism, but unfortunately TPTB are not developing her journalistic skills slowly.
What we've been shown is in 1 episode Lois all of a sudden finds her calling as a journalist and gets a front page byline.
Then this episode all of a sudden she is like one of the main star reporters for the Inquisitor. Just in 3 episodes we've seen Lois go from hating journalism to becoming a top reporter at the Inquisitor. That is not character development. Nor is it an example of learning the ropes of journalism. It's called a lightswitch.
With one falling barn door Lois is magically a top reporter, while Chloe, after many, many hard years of working in the journalism, is still at the bottom of the DP.
It doesn't make sense.
Posted by: CL | October 20, 2006 6:56 PM
Now THIS is what a great Smallville episode should be like!
Clark being pro-active and investigating on his own? Brilliant! The entire way he went about the Ollie situation and trying to save Lois, and then keeping GA's secret? Too good.
Lois was absolutely fantastic in this episode. Brave, kick ass and tenacious. She's relishing her journalism and investigating, and she really held her own against The GA.
The GA was superb! His and Clark's fight was great, their conversations were amazing, I can literally feel the JL! LOL. They really have what it takes to inspire the other. Loved it.
I had some minor issues, about the Chloe and Lois relationship, as it was portrayed in this, but I'll let it pass, because this was truly one heck of an episode.
Posted by: Sammy | October 20, 2006 6:25 PM
Please. I didn't except Chloe lying to the public at 15, I'm certainly not going to accept it from EDLois at 24.
Posted by: Regina | October 20, 2006 6:20 PM
Great comment.
I LOVED this episode, everything about them. Justin made an incredible job as Green Arrow. Tom was awesome too, I loved how Clark did things by himself. And Erica, God, she was AWESOME!! Lois kicked ass on this one!!!!
Great job, CW. I hope you keep more episodes like this coming. Because I loved every part of it.
Posted by: Rachel | October 20, 2006 6:08 PM
I loved it. Good plot, great performances and welcome character development.
Lois was just spot ON in this episode. Passionate, determined, committed, honest, and unrelenting. In both emotional and physical quotients. I just love her character.
Clark's scenes were really great ones as well, and his interaction with Green Arrow, stellar. I cannot wait to see them setting up the Justice League. I'm already getting goosebumps thinking about it. And Clark being intelligent and determined himself in this episode was great to see as well.
Lex and Lionel continue to fascinate me. I'm not entirely sure I have them pegged yet, as to motivation, but it's great fun to watch.
Posted by: JayJay | October 20, 2006 6:01 PM
Nah, what's stupid is a Lois Lane who lies to the public in oder to be famous.
That's Superman's symbol of humanity? Someone who doesn't care about truth or justice?
That just stinks.
Posted by: Dan | October 20, 2006 5:56 PM
Well, c'mon people, Lois is still learning the ropes of journalism. She isn't going to be like her total Iconic self in, what 10 years, right now. You guys just love your precious Chloe so much and want her to become Lois so bad, that as Lois progresses in each episode little by little, you find more to complain about and compare her to Chloe. Thats stupid.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2006 5:35 PM
"She knew that it wasn't the Green Arrow who kidnapped her, but she said it was anyway just to get a story printed? WTF?"
THANK YOU!!! I don't understand why everyone is so comfortable with Lois writing bogus headlines that she knows aren't true! This is supposed to be Lois Lane... doesn't this disturb anyone??? All I see are comments about "yay Lois!", but no one seems to care that she's lying her ass off to get a headline in a tabloid? Seriously, this is horrible for the character, but everyone just seems happy to turn a blind eye to it?
Posted by: Ernesto | October 20, 2006 4:58 PM
The Luthors were AWESOME this week. Can we return to Chluthorarkville? Cause Lollieville is pretty darn dull.
Posted by: Mark | October 20, 2006 4:47 PM
Love the SV main characters - Clark, Chloe, Lex, Lana, and Lionel.
Temp Lois needs to go.
Posted by: Cindy | October 20, 2006 4:29 PM
Very good episode. The season's best so far, alongside 'Zod'.
Clark and Olliver's scenes were very good. The dialogue and the feel to it, was all great. I'm already loving the dynamic.
Lex and Lionel's scenes are always a treat. And though I still dont like Lexana, I have to appreciate Lana's character in this episode.
Lois. She is SO amazing! And Erica Durance really brought it. Her investigating and her continuing on her journalism path was such a joy to see. And can the girl kick butt or what?! Great dialogue again, and fantastic scenes with Clark and Ollie. Thats an interesting dynamic as well.
Posted by: Jamie | October 20, 2006 4:21 PM
Pretty great episode. The start of the JLA was a great thing to see as to show that heros can have different mindsets and still be heroic.
And Lex pulling all the strings was also awesome.
Missed Chloe this episode; but I enjoyed Lana so that all worked out.
And the less said about the Ethicless Lane better. Nine more to co. I second those who want her to spend them asleep. So much better that way.
Posted by: Danny | October 20, 2006 4:12 PM
Amazing episode! Clark, Olliver, Lois, Lex and Lana all shone. And Lionel continues to be enigmatic and mysterious.
Olliver Queen/Green Arrow is one of the most interesting additions to the show. All superheroes featured previously on the show have been interesting too, but because we never see them sticking around more than one ep, we dont get to see as many layers as we are with Olliver. His methods are clashing at the moment with Clark's, ideology clash too perhaps. But that terfific piece of dialogue from Olliver about the greater world out there that needs its heroes - their ideas are eventually going to mesh. And Clark investigating on his own, being good at it, and keeping Olliver's secret? I could not love Clark more!
This episode was also a wonderful showcase for Lois. I've never loved her more than I did in this episode. Her determination to get to the bottom of the story, to uncover the identity was so great to see, and such lovely foreshadowing of her future with Clark. Olliver did his best to deter her, any which way he could, including trying to romance her, but nothing worked on Lois. She really is becoming the dogged reporter. Her writing that story about Green Arrow moreover reminded me so much of her stories about Superman in the future - 'My night with Superman' anyone? Lol! She was also upfront and honest with her journalistic and Chief of Staff duties, most importantly with Martha. And the icing on the cake ofcourse was her kick butt attitude and defending herself, and holding her own. And all the while not being completely unrealistic either.
I also liked the subtle and realistic progression in the Clark/Lois relationship. Olliver commenting that if ''he were living in the same house with as beautiful a woman, he'd mask his feelings under sarcasm too''. And Clark being referred to as ''one of Lois' best friends''. It was subtly added in, not taking away from the proceedings or being unrealistically in-your-face. But a great set up for the future.
The Luthors and Lana storyline was excellent as well. Lex is more devious than ever, but in a wonderfully twisted way that I didn't see coming! Nor did I see Lana's character doing what she did, but it was a welcome change.
Posted by: Tina | October 20, 2006 4:02 PM
Loved Clark, Lex, Chloe, and Lana last night. Especially Lex and Lana - they were bad ass! Clark was pretty good too! But those four are awesome as usual.
The rest... the Mionel and Lollie continue to disappoint.
Posted by: soda pop | October 20, 2006 4:01 PM
Go Lois! Go Lois! I wanna be her! lol
I loved her this eppy, her interaction with Ollie were so much fun and she definitely knows how to kick ass!!
Posted by: melissa | October 20, 2006 3:49 PM
I liked the superheroe interaction between Clark and Ollie/Green Arrow. I'm glad that someone else is challenging Clark a bit and getting him to consider things in a different perspective.
Yay to Lex for testing Lana - and evil Lana (or at least her trying to be evil) was a nice change of pace from her usual fare!
Not enough Chloe!!!! But liked that her scenes highlighted her investigative skills, her support of Clark, and her competitive nature. Her wardrobe for all 3 outfits she wore was fantastic!
What's up with Lois' headline being kidnapped by the Green Arrow? I thought she realized that it was Safetec who kidnapped her and that Green Arrow actually saved her life. I thought an article exposing a security co. that caters to Metropolis elite would have been a nice article to see. And are we to truly believe that after 1 article about barn doors and aliens that Lois is writing articles that have the whole country buzzing. A little more realism in this aspect would be great!
Posted by: Nadia | October 20, 2006 3:41 PM
Let's get back to Clark, Lex, Chloe, and Lana.
I'm tired of Lois and Ollie already.
Posted by: James | October 20, 2006 3:38 PM
Great episode! I loved Lois, I loved Oliver, I loved Clark... mmm maybe I will love the Clark/Lois/Oliver triangle too, lol.
Amazingly, I liked Lana, if she is gonna be with Lex, I think it is a good thing she is turning dark also.
More Lois episodes! Erica does such an amazing job. And I want Clois! huh, guess i'll have to endure some Ollie first... but it's ok, all for the geater good.
Lois rocked!
Posted by: marissa | October 20, 2006 3:26 PM
ok..i guess it's true when they say that at no point in time can we satisfy everyone.
First, everyone was complaining about Chloe doing too much and being Super!Chloe, and now ppl are upset because she didn't do anything in this episode??? Why? Isn't that what people wanted? So now when she lays back a bit, ppl are ridiculing and saying that for such a reporter all she is doing is writing obituaries???...I'm confused now...
I don't think anyone of them needs to be reduced or that the show should have some stupid competition as to which real or alleged Lois Lane gets more stories..that's just dumb.
Every character has an episode where he/she is the other major focus in addition to Clark. Sometimes it's Lex,Lana, and Clark, sometimes it's Chloe and Clark, sometimes it's Lois and Clark....last night was Lois's episode....next week will be someone else's...nothing wrong with that...
and it's funny that we all see different things in the same scene..i guess that is how it is always. On the record, I say that Clark not telling Chloe who GA was has nothing to do with him not trusting her...ummm...HELLO! That won't fly. He didn't tell her because it wasn't his secret to tell...
and let's hope they dont destroy the family bonds...i dunno what the hell they are doing with that
Posted by: zen | October 20, 2006 3:24 PM
I for one loved the episode. I thought it gave all the canon characrers a chance to shine, and Green Arrow was just a superb addition.
Lois Lane was the very definition of iconic in this episode. Bravo, writers. That emotional and physical strength combined is what endears her to so many fans. And Erica Durance hit it out of the ballpark.
Kristin Kreuk was very good too. Lana's character has taken quite a turn.
Clark was thinking and acting on his own - and well. And kept Ollie's secret. Good on you, Clark.
Lex. Wow. I'm...speechless.
Great episode, more like these, please! :)
Posted by: Kristine | October 20, 2006 3:17 PM
Yes! Let's end Lollieville. That's all this episode was - like a Pilot for a Lois/Ollie spin off.
And it wasn't bad.
It just wasn't *Smallville.*
Missed Clark, Lex, and Chloe. Missed Lana some too but LANA RULED this episode. Lana in the elevator totally pwnd everything Lois did.
Lois really REALLY needs to be Dinah Lance however. She coudl really rock the fishnets.
Also - I know ABC does it but could you guys do a 'shop like the show' thing? Chloe's red shirt was AMAZING, and I really want one.
Posted by: Carrie | October 20, 2006 3:15 PM
I thought this episode was pretty good. The Green Arrow was better than I thought - great special effects, and I like his deeper voice when he's in disguise. The dynamic that they have setup between Clark and Oliver is great, and I can't wait for the JLA to begin.
Lois - I continue to be disturbed by how they have portrayed her start in journalism. Nevermind the ridiculous barn-door lightswitch, which was bad enough. But they keep showing that Lois has no problems being completely dishonest with what she writes. She knew that it wasn't the Green Arrow who kidnapped her, but she said it was anyway just to get a story printed? WTF? Even Oliver questioned her integrity (which makes twice now, Clark being the first). What exactly are the writers trying to say here?
Lana was GREAT! She's done taking crap from other people - no more princess/victim. And her chnage in attitude should make the Lexana arc very interesting.
Posted by: Rob | October 20, 2006 3:09 PM
Chalk me up as one who was less than impressed with Lois too. Before this season I liked her, but this year? She's really annoying.
Apparently we do need Lana 2.0 after all.
At least Lana 1.0 is interesting now. I really like this whole 'we have to be prepared' stance of hers. It's fresh and interesting.
And Chloe fell off a cliff. So that was dull too.
So at least one of the three girls was fun this week.
Posted by: Mike | October 20, 2006 3:07 PM
Miss Durance did an amazing job on this episode. Her Lois Lane traits could be seen from a mile. I'm glad they are developing more her character and focusing more on her.. a person who is gonna have such a huge impact on Clark's life.
But don't forget about Clark! he also need more development... alone!
Posted by: roxy | October 20, 2006 3:05 PM
Where was Clark? Chloe? Lex?
Can we get back to Smallville and leave Lollieville behind? It's pretty dull.
Posted by: Meg | October 20, 2006 3:03 PM
This episode has been better than the rest..but that's not saying much.
GA is hot, and more interesting than Clark I think something is wrong with that.
Lois wasnt' as annoying this episode.
Clark used his brain this episode good for him.
Chloe not as super def. a good thing.
Lex and Lionel scenes in season 1-2 and especially 3 used to be the most interesting and well writen scenes on the show now thier just blah.
All while watching this episode I remember this girl very pretty in seasons one through three. Very nice, kind, friends with Clark and Chloe wore pink alot. I wonder where she's gone, what has happened to her she seems to be replaced by this annoying overly naive faux confident person who sort of looks like her but can't be. Well if you know who I'm talking about please bring her back I miss her and her replacement isn't close to her at all.
Posted by: Pat | October 20, 2006 3:03 PM
I loved the episode!! I cant' write more now but I'll come back later.
Loved the episode!
Posted by: missysue | October 20, 2006 3:03 PM
4 down, 9 more to suffer through. Can we go back to the ones where Lois spends them unconscious?
And I personally don't like Chloe either.
I do wish to see more Clark and more Lex. Remember them? They used to be what the show was about? Can we get more about Clark and Lex? Is that a horrible request?
Posted by: Karen | October 20, 2006 3:02 PM
LOIS ROCKS! LOIS ROCKS! LOIS KICKS ASS!!
Please we want..nop, NEED more Lois episodes!!
Posted by: sonia | October 20, 2006 3:01 PM
Actually what's sad is those who feel the need to try to make a judgement call or presume to know why people think the way they do.
I know it may seem foriegn to Erica's fans, but some people dislike the character (not the actress) for actual problems with the character.
A prime example is that line - there was no tension or reaction from it and no build up to it. And noting that it's something that other people in the media see (reguardless of his personality) is just as valid.
Quit trying to poison the well - fact is there are logical, valid reasons for saying no to Lois Lane In Name Only that have nothing to do with anything other than Lois Lane In Name Only.
Posted by: Maria | October 20, 2006 3:00 PM
Chloe who...LOL
That's right! keep hiding info from your cousin girl... either way she is gonna become the start reporter of the DP.
Posted by: the reason | October 20, 2006 2:58 PM
Again... I can't believe how some people quote a chauvinistic pig that doesn't have the least respect for women... too bad there are some women and men that apparently doesn't have that respect either.
And Durance did and amazing job on this episode. How some people prefer to bash her than actually enjoying the episode because they favour one ship or another... I'll never understand.
Well, it's their lose actually.
Again, great episode
Posted by: tania | October 20, 2006 2:55 PM
Wooohoooo and Clark is back! Finally! the guy thought for himself and did some things by himself! And now ollie has planted the seed of the world needing the super hero... ohh don't you just love Ollie? lol
And his relationship with Lois is pretty great. Just when oliver thinks that he is figuring out Lois, she throws him another curve.. typically her.
And i'm sooo glad Lois got published! again! :)
I think some don't remeber a newspaper that read " I spent the night with superman" mmmm, trying to catch the readers attention? i think sooooo. So the title on her article was completely fine by me, in fact, i think the writer were trying to creat some similitude to the other title.
Now now, Clark is definitely gonna be in a predicament... should he tell Lois about GA or not? guess we will have to see but I love that Ollie is on the show. He is finally gonna shed some light into Clark, about the super hero job and about his feelings for Lois.
Posted by: trix | October 20, 2006 2:51 PM
Yup I too loved that line - because it underscored how much Howard Stern was right; Durance and Welling have not a lick of chemistry.
Rosenbaum and Kreuk, totally have a tone of it. I was hoping that Lana would get involved in LuthorCorp, like she is in the comics, and she is! Sweet!
Chloe and Clark's team up (with huge DP signs behind them as someone on twop pointed out) was sweet as always. I do think it's only a matter of time before Lois steals Chloe's story and all hell breaks loose tho.
And speaking of disappointment, I've got a major one: Where was Clark? I care about Chloe's Man of Steel, not Lois' Bandit.
Posted by: Caryn | October 20, 2006 2:48 PM
Actually the best part was the fact that Clark completely laughed off the idea. He's only worried about his stepsister getting hurt.
It's a good think that it's Batman who is the World's Greatest Detective and not Green Arrow. Cause he totally missed it in that line - he seemed to get it by the loft scene tho.
Totally different than his reaction to Jimmy last week. Which is great - Clark doesnt' NEED three love triangles.
Posted by: svfan | October 20, 2006 2:45 PM
Ohhh I loved that line also!! And Lois... was amazing on this episode. I'm definitely watching again on Saturday... thanks CW for the rerun!!
I haven't enjoyed so much an eppy of Smallville for so long... And Lois and Oliver's chemistry is pretty great.
What I love about their relationship is that there isn't any angst, they are getting to know each other and are flirting, having fun. Now, when Lois discovers that Ollie is the "vigilante".. that would be another story.
Great job!! I loved it.
Posted by: yarissa | October 20, 2006 2:43 PM
Durance's Lois continues to disappoint. I'd be surprized.. .but this is Durance's Lois. As someone else said, 4 down, 9 to go.
Lex was pretty awesome playing both his father and Lana. I hope to see more of this side of him!
Chloe's still covering trials and LuthorCorp (we saw both last year) so I don't mind Clark calling her off the Green Arrow story. However I do wonder how long she's going to be able to resist. She kind of loves heros.
Posted by: Mark | October 20, 2006 2:42 PM
READ THIS GUYS :
"Don't worry Clark, if I were living with a woman this beautiful in my house I would also hide my feelings under sarcasm..."
Oliver Queen.
BEST. LINE. EVER.
:)
Posted by: carisma | October 20, 2006 2:39 PM
Lois rocks!!! I enjoyed so much this episode.
I hope tptb realize they need Lois in more episodes.
And bring on the triangle: Clark/Lois/Oliver!!!
Posted by: hugo | October 20, 2006 2:36 PM
LOIS LANE KICKED ASS!!!! I loved this epside!!! Best episode so far of the season.
Erica did an amazing job on all her scenes. Romance, angst, fluffy, fun, banter : that girl can do anything!
Chloe... each episode she gets worse, I don't where are the writers planning on going with her attitude. If the break the cousins bond I would be seriously dissaponted.
Lois and Oliver have a an amazing chemistry! And the scene of both of them with Clark was just oustanding. And Ollie telling Clark about hiding his feeling for a beautiful girl under sarcasm!!! YAYYY!!! And so it begins...
Great Episode!! We want more Lois episodes!!
Posted by: reycast | October 20, 2006 2:34 PM
Arrow: On Target?
More like he missed by a mile.
You're kidding right? Smallville needs to bring Clark and Lana back together. Truth is, this show *iz dead* so save yourself the trouble and put Tom and Kristin back together and working again.
The only I enjoyed was Lana's tough attitude! Thank god that girl grew a backbone.
As for Chloe, I was LMAO when she did NOTHING in this episode. I'm sorry but it's funny that Chloe, someone who is working @ the Daily Planet can't even get a story except write obituaries, but Lois gets a BIG FAT front page headline in the Inquisitor hahahaaaaa.
That's what you get once you have characters that are very similar... one of them will tend to be dumbed down.
OH WELL, Tough luck.
Posted by: Why do you care? | October 20, 2006 2:33 PM
Overall, a pretty good episode...I'm liking Ollie a lot more than I did before, and the action sequences were awesome, as always.
However, it's unfortunately another episode in which Lois continues to disappoint. The Lois I grew up with would never, ever ask anyone to do her work for her...ever. Going to Chloe to help her with her story and THEN insulting her by telling CHloe she doesn't trust her? WHat in the world is going on here? That's Just Not Lois.
And a Lois who doesn't look beyond the surface and declares Green Arrow a villian without digging further? That's just lazy, and that's Just Not Lois.
No...the Lois Lane *I* grew up with knew to find all the facts before telling the world that someone was a threat. The Lois I know is a hard worker. The Lois I know...just isn't the one *called* Lois on this show.
Posted by: tina | October 20, 2006 2:17 PM
I agree about Clark too. I have no problem with them teaming up but I DO love it when Clark does his fair share of the work too.
And I also loved how Chloe is still our sign of what's Lois Lane should be - a girl who just wants to know the truth and make sure justice is done, who supports the superheros. Pretty awesome.
Also awesome was Lana's transition to evil broad. She does it really well, and it's a really interesting new dynamic with the Luthors.
Posted by: Maria | October 20, 2006 2:16 PM
I miss Clark and Lana....that's all.
Posted by: dm | October 20, 2006 2:12 PM
"If you want research, you go to the library, not your other reporter cousin."
I completely agree and the same rule applies to Clark too.Hear that TPTB and make Clark do his own investigations instead of going to Chloe for information.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2006 1:58 PM
If you want research, you go to the library, not your other reporter cousin.
That being said, it was great to see Chloe take the high road. She really has grown in the past 3 years. Lois isn't a threat to her and she's not worried in the slightest - in fact she goes out of her way to try to help her cousin out.
It was by far the most realistic portrayl of their relationship since Pariah.
Posted by: Maria | October 20, 2006 1:48 PM
This episode didn't do anything for me.
Too little Clark, Martha, Chloe.
Too much Green Arrow and Lois Lane.
Very awesome Lex and Lionel.
And Yay! Evil Lana.
Posted by: CL | October 20, 2006 1:44 PM
It was a great episode. Even though there was not that much Clark in this one, it was good, quality scenes. He was smart, active, determined, yet also contemplative.
Green Arrow was brilliant and his and Clark's scenes were the highlight.
Lois was on fire this episode, what an exceptional episode for her. She was perseverant, determined, honest about her commitments and the foreshadowing was superb. And yay for her second byline!
The Luthors had their own intriguing storyline, and for a while I couldn't figure out who was playing who?! But that was the intrigue then, wasn't it?
The only downside of this was the continuing deteriorating relationship b/w Chloe and Lois. But overall, an extremely enjoyable episode!
Posted by: Dina | October 20, 2006 1:40 PM
Arrow: On Target? Yes.
I was not having high hopes for Clark after watching Wither. But this episode totally rocked. GA and Clark scenes were executed really well. The talk about the dual identity, both of them saving each other's secret, talk about their difference of opinions were all executed very well. GA pushing Clark to see a bigger picture than Smallville was also tastefully done.
Clark was very Superman-sque in this episode. It was very nice to see him use his powers to save GA's identity reveal by Lois. Clark did his own investigation with Lionel and Chloe as his sources which was awesome. I ask the writers to retain this Clark Kent for the rest of the series. A very good episode and the best Superhero episode.
Posted by: jamchand | October 20, 2006 1:32 PM
I thought Lois was fantastic in this episode. I really enjoyed it. Oliver Queen/Green Arrow was also really good. The scenes between him and Clark seemed very Batman/Superman to me. For the first time, in a long time, I saw Clark acting like Superman. I loved the Superman music that played when he told Oliver to return the necklace to Lionel. I love that he pieced together who Oliver was, rather than letting Super!Chloe figure it out. It was interesting that he doesn't trust Chloe enough to let her keep the files.
I didn't see Lois "using" Chloe for research. Lois only asked Chloe to use the DP electronic resources, because the M.I. didn't have the same technology. She didn't say that she wanted Chloe as her personal research assistant. And her moment of distrust regarding Chloe? Completely warranted given what Chloe pulls in the end. That scene shows that Lois Lane knows her cousin pretty well. She hit the nail on the head when she said that there was "one part" of Chloe she didn't trust. Instead of commenting that Lois was pretty smart to know that Chloe had this character flaw, it becomes a negative thing that Lois was worried about it??? Her fears were justified.
Chloe was terrible in this episode. I sincerely hope that the writers don't take her back to season 3 "jealous and petty" Chloe. I'm seeing a return of the Chloe Sullivan who worked with Lionel Luthor. Given that the Chloe/Lois relationship is one of the best things about the show, it'll really suck if TPTB decide to ruin it.
And the newspaper headline? Lois clearly stated that she was trying to use it to trap him & Oliver even responded by saying that he didn't like the idea that she was using herself as bait. She wasn't doing it to sell newspapers or to grab the headline. She was doing it to unmask the vigilante to bring him to justice. That's a LOIS LANE thing to do. All versions of Lois Lane would do something like that. (Similar to "My Night with Superman" in the movie.)
Posted by: sana | October 20, 2006 1:32 PM
Worst of the season. Clark was great and yeah I gotta admit it was cool to see him stand up to GA but there just wasn't much of him. This is his story and I want to see lots of Clark all the time. However, both GA and the writers were wrong in that Clark has stepped up to the plate on many occasions from the pilot until now and helped both those close to him and complete strangers. As in, he saved the world from Zod three eps ago. How quickly they forget.
Chloe was great though she was on screen far too little. The fact that her pathetic cousin had the nerve to come to her and ask for help when she's supposed to suddenly be a real reporter only underscored the fact that she is no Lois Lane.
Durance's Lois was not entertaining and I read a book during her and Lana's scenes both. It's a waste of my time to watch either one. She continues to remind me more of Lucy Ricardo or maybe Fran Drescher than the real Lois Lane.
So don't even talk about Lois and superheroes; it's bad enough they portray her as some superhero groupie in addition to her being a talentless hack at a tabloid rag. Her presence dumbed the ep down horribly. She just doesn't have what it takes to be Lois Lane. The less Lois, the better. Please make it so.
Posted by: Maggie | October 20, 2006 1:26 PM
For the life of me -- I can't understand where the writers are going with "Lois." All I've seen so far is that she's a liar, continues to be lazy, lacks ethics and that's not the end of it!
Writing false stories ("Kidnapped by Green Arrow!") for a tabloid rag doesn't make her the iconic Lois Lane. NO ONE respects The Inquistor and she can't even do her own damn legwork. She goes to Chloe for it. She is millions upon millions of lightyears away from being Lois Lane.
On the other hand, the writers are still showing Chloe as the intelligent, hard-working journalist. I loved how Clark used more of his investigative skills to figure out that the Green Arrow was Ollie. I continue to love Clark & Chloe's interaction as its one of the only bright spots on this show now.
(Give us some Chlarky romance and you'll make me even happier ;)
I also liked the new evil Lana. Much more interesting than "Tell me your secrets" Lana.
And I'm glad to see no romantic Clois. There's absolutely NO sexual tension between Clark and Lois whatsoever. It's like a dead fish. Bleh.
Posted by: Shar | October 20, 2006 1:23 PM
"Actually didn't she just go there to use one of the computer databases?"
Using databases at a newspaper she didn't work for and called "a pseudo-intellectual rag" :)
Yeah, I can't cheer for that...sorry.
Posted by: Rebecca | October 20, 2006 1:21 PM
I liked this episode! I enjoyed seeing the hero progression and love it when TW is delivering his Superness. Love Lex and Lana and the layers that are being addressed with their characters, especially when Lionel is thrown in the mix! Loved the Chloe and Clark scenes - even though there wasn't much of them - but that's why I love them so anyway - even when there's not much of them in an episode, their time is so polished and progressive and meaningfull. I'm looking forward to Clark at the DP and I am ready to see Chloe get her JLA story and work more on her Luthorcorp expose. Ollie and Lois are good together and at this point in time - this late in the series, questionning her journalistic integrity is appropriate because it came out of the Phantom Zone itself.
Posted by: lulubird | October 20, 2006 1:10 PM
"Arrow" turned out to be just what the trailers indicated-- too much Green Arrow and too little Clark. I have nothing against characters from the DCU-- "Cyborg" and "Run" were two of my favorite Smallville episodes. But we're seeing too much Ollie, and too little Clark. I agree that the Clark we did see was awesome. But we need more Clark!
Also, I can't figure out where the writers are going with "Lois." Writing stories that aren't true ("Kidnapped by Green Arrow!" when she wasn't) for a tabloid doesn't make her the iconic Lois Lane. She's still a long ways from the icon one would expect-- she's lacking in ethics, and she doesn't even seem to know how to use Google. In contrast, the writers are still showing Chloe as the intelligent, hard-working journalist.
I liked the new evil Lana. I hope the writers continue to develop her in that direction.
And I'm glad to see no romantic Clois. It's still way too early for that, and I'm glad the writers aren't trying to lightswitch it. Besides, I'm still counting on seeing some Chlark romance:-).
Posted by: Elly | October 20, 2006 12:57 PM
Count me among the disappointed who are leaving the show. I respect the iconic characters of Superman and Lois Lane too much to watch a Superman who is involved in three love triangles, and a joke of a Lois who is going to achieve, without any effort or talent (aside from her bra-size), everything that her more deserving cousin has worked for.
It's cheap and uninspiring, and Superman isn't supposed to be either.
Posted by: anonymous | October 20, 2006 12:53 PM
Lex and Lana were AWESOME last night. Just SO AWESOME.
Chloe and Clark were also pretty cool, but dude, Chloe can't back off a story for long. Here's hoping that she does get her JLA scoop.
4 down, only 9 more Durance episodes left to go.
Posted by: Gemma | October 20, 2006 12:51 PM
People have the right to leave feedback about what they don't like; the fact that Lois is a crappy journalist who is nothing like the canon!Lois Lane of the comics, movies, or prior television shows is a valid one.
This Lois is anti-hero; she is NOT Lois Lane. And frankly, it's rather boring to watch them try to shove her into it. Neither the writing nor the acting makes it the least bit believable.
I also have to complain about GA's costume. What in the WORLD is that boy wearing? Leather, with codpieces? WHAT?
Posted by: Jenny | October 20, 2006 12:24 PM
Oh please - This Lois is NOT Lois Lane. She lied to the public. She knows she lied to the public. And she's having Chloe float her career by doing all the research.
She's a journalistic joke, and in some ways this si even more insulting than the Barn Door of Lightswitichitude.
Give it a rest, CW. It's too little, too late to make her a believable Lois Lane.
Lex, however, was PERFECT last night.
Posted by: Gene | October 20, 2006 12:21 PM
A really good episode - less angst, more action. I remember looking at the clock and being surprised the show was only half over, because so much had already happened.
Thumbs up for the Arrow, except for his hood. Did anyone else think he looked like the police sketch of the Unabomber? Lose it, especially since it would interfere with a real archer's technique.
Best thing by far: the Clark Kent Coming Out Party! This is the emerging Superman we needed to see, a formidable powerhouse who takes a firm line and uses his powers unashamedly. I loved how he stopped Green Arrow cold during the amulet robbery - facing off against this ultra-equipped guy in a laser flooded room while wearing his school clothes! If I'm Oliver I have to wonder just how much power this guy is holding back, which ties nicely into the motivations for that great closing scene. The plotlines are really coming together.
Posted by: Dave | October 20, 2006 11:51 AM
Smallville, thou hast redeemed yourself!!! I liked the episode for all of the reasons previously posted...so no need for me to get into it again. I have some concerns though..
1) MORE SHELBY! Love that dog!!
2) on a more serious note: I'm not sure I like the competition thing between the cousins. I don't like the 180 degrees that they did on Chloe's view on Lois's interest in journalism, and I don't like the fact that Lois feels that she cannot trust her. Especially as in season 4 and 5 they showed them both as loving and supporting each other, and now the're not sure if they trust each other, and are worried about who gets the story???
Nope..don't like where that is going. I know they both like/love journalism and they have some similar qualities if stubborness, persistance etc that will make both of them hunt for good stories...but PLEASE don't let something like journalism undermine a very nice family/friend loving relationship...that's just not right.
Can't they work together..or maybe work on different stories????...Metropolis is large enough for that.
With all of the 'remarks" from both cousins in the past 2 episodes, I have a feeling that the writers are building something up here...something good or bad I don't know....but before I jump on the fan bandwagon to say that Chloe's remarks are disappointing, or anything like that...I will leave it alone and see where the writers take it....
I don't see a need to put them against each other to get ratings..leave the competition for Clark and Lex.
But other than that...very good Smallville..very good.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2006 11:45 AM
Arrow was right on target. I thought this episode was going to be too much focussed on GA and not much about Clark. But I was pleasantly surprised to see plot move along with GA, Clark and Lois.
The loft scene between Clark and GA were executed well. They writers did show how different their work ethics are and yet why would they work together. Lois was written very well in this episode. Lois writing an article about GA and getting kidnapped for it was a huge foreshadowing for the future where the same happens when she writes about Superman.
Clark did the investigation on his own with his sources being Lionel and Chloe which was awesome.
Over all a very good episode.
Posted by: chenni47 | October 20, 2006 11:22 AM
Arrow was right on target. GA and Oliver scenes with Lois and Clark were real good. I loved all GA's gadgets. I loved Clark and Lois reaction when Oliver talked about masking the feelings with sarcasm. I liked the ending scene at the barn. It hinted on how different their work ethics are. I also liked the push GA gave to Clark to think beyond Smallville. I also liked Clark's concerns for Lois.
In this episode Lois had quite a number of emotions to express and Erica rocked on. This episode marks the start of the Lois journey as the ace reporter of DP. She was very determined to find out who the GA guy was that Oliver couldn't sway her away from her goal. I loved all Lois scenes especially her fighting scenes.
I don't like Lexana but if Lana is playing Lex I am all for it.
I was a nice change to see that Clark's source of information was not just Chloe and keep it that way. I was very happy when he did not tell who GA was to Chloe. In Aqua he exposed AC's abilities to Chloe for which I was pissed off because it was not his secret to tell. It just shows maturity from Clark Kent. I loved how Clark Kent and Lois Lane were written in this episode mirroring their future self. Please keep them around.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2006 11:09 AM
"Lois had the nerve to go to The Planet and ask for Chloe's help...that girl can't do ANYTHING on her own.
And, has anyone forgotten that The Inquisitor is a TABLOID rag that everyone on the show, including the Editor-In-Chief of The Daily Planet, thinks is crap and an untrustworthy source for news?"
Actually didn't she just go there to use one of the computer databases? And can Lois do anything without people complaining about her every 2 mins? She was awesome in this episode. She acted like the LOIS LANE, which hello, is what people have been wanting. Just because she asked for help doesn't make her awful. Remember when Chloe shoved Lois into stripping for her article? Ugh
Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2006 10:57 AM
Sorry, Smallville writers. You lost several fans last night, myself included. I'm leaving your show and running away with the guys from Supernatural.
Posted by: xtremeroswellian | October 20, 2006 10:39 AM
Okay, first the Green arrow thing, I liked him, I liked the arrows, the costume I'm not so happy about it, but he looks really nice on it and the character of Oliver and GA really grew on me on this episode.
Second... Clark just rocked, he was all hero here, he protected Oliver from Lois and I love the chats between them and with Chloe about the hero status, so true!! And he's getting there :) but be realistic and he didn't do all the job himself, Chloe did the research about the people that was attacked by GA, he did a lot of work himself but he's still learning this, at least he's trying!!!
What leads me to Lois... who can't do a good article to save her life, who lies, who goes to her cousin for her and then tell her she doesn't trust her, who gets a by-line with a complete lie.. etc, this is your Lois?? Sorry no can do, my Lois Lane has ethics, something this one hasn't ever heard about!!.
Lex and Lana... oh my, they just don't get it!! Evil, evil, this makes me sad, truly :(, but I guess is the only direction they are going to go with this, awful :(.
Everything else was cool, Lionel was great, Martha's should have been here more and I didn't really liked her dress but it was a good episode... oh and Chloe?? As always Allison Mack performance was the brilliant spot here :).
Be well and take care.
Posted by: Monica_O | October 20, 2006 10:34 AM
The better question is, will Lois ever stop misjudging people and actually do her own work? :)
Lois had the nerve to go to The Planet and ask for Chloe's help...that girl can't do ANYTHING on her own.
And, has anyone forgotten that The Inquisitor is a TABLOID rag that everyone on the show, including the Editor-In-Chief of The Daily Planet, thinks is crap and an untrustworthy source for news?
I DID like GA and his fun toys, but please, stop using the Batman theme on the show without actually having Batman there...I dealt with it in "Vengeance" because it was used in a great moment with the Angel of Vengeance coming out of the smoke, but hearing it again last night was just silly.
Ollie's got a sweet apartment and I wish I was a billionaire in Metropolis :)
Clark and Ollie's scene in the barn at the end of the episode was really well done and I'm glad to see two superheroes discussing their views on how to protect the public and what's the best way to go about it.
Lana making threats??? Ooh, I like that.
Luthors betraying each other and scheming again? Ooh, I like that even better :)
Thanks for showing Chloe as the smart, competent journalist who works hard and wants to know the truth. Good to see that she was wanting to drop the "Bandit" off the GA's name. She sure does know how to name those superheroes :)
All in all, I liked the episode and it got me really pumped up for "Justice"!
Posted by: Rebecca | October 20, 2006 10:31 AM
Great episode. Loved the Lexana!
Posted by: Naomi | October 20, 2006 10:17 AM
I LOVED this episode! Lois was kick ass! She acted like the iconic Lois Lane (finally), all complete with getting kidnapped, and another story published! LOL. Clark/Lois/Oliver scene was funny. "If I was living under the same roof with a beautiful girl, I'd resort to sarcasm to hide my feelings, too." (Or something to that effect). HAHA. Clark actually investigating on his own, without Chloe? Good. Love his concern for Lois and the fact that Oliver refered to him as one of Lois' best friends. And, a big WTF with Lana! Threatening the guy in the elevator? Sounded very Lex-like, I'm not sure if I like that. Alot of people are saying she is more interesting now that she seems to have an evil side. I don't know. The ending scene with Oliver and Clark, really awesome.
Posted by: biaaly | October 20, 2006 10:07 AM
Clark did use his brain in this ep which was awesome. I like how he kept the GA's identity a secret.
I think Lois's view of the GA was mostly based on the fact that GA, in her eyes, is a thief and a danger to the people of Metropolis. When Superman comes on the scene the first impression he leaves on her is different to the one that GA made. Her introduction to the GA was him stealing Mrs Kent's necklace. Lois isn't going to look kindly on that.
Posted by: sefi | October 20, 2006 9:43 AM
OK...those tricked out arrows are HOT!...at first I was skeptical about Green Arrow getting so much attention..but it was a good episode. I'll give it a B++..not an A yet..but they are on their way..
I liked the episode for a number of reasons:
1) GA arrows and gadgets...loved the one that sidetracked the bullet (even though i thought that a bit unreal)...and this line was funny: "Gadgets? Against the Man of Steel?"
2) Glad that Lois is writing and progressing, and digging in for her stories. This episode was a good one for Lois
3)ohhhhhh..nasty nasty Lana! I loved it! She was semi-evil when she blackmailed the guy in the elevator, and I absolutely loved it! I say make her evil...she plays that role really well. I;m glad her story line is evolving too.
4) Lex and Lionel: Lex testing Lana? are we back to our old tricks again Lex?? I thought she was the one woman you could trust? Love evil, manipulative Lex...BRING IT ON! And who's side is Lionel on anyway? Keep us guessing here...the SV writers got this one right!
5)Chloe: loved the anvils that the SV writers put in like this not being "her story" and "if you asked me, he is the modern day Robin Hood". Also, mention of the "alter Lois". I find it funny that the writers play on words this way. I think they are teasing the Chloe and Lois fans because when Chloe says the "story" is not hers, I think the writers mean more than the GA story..but the overall story of the show. And then the "alter Lois". I think the writers want to let the fans know that they are aware of the debate of the Chlois theory and adding it in as a way to say "we know, we know..but this is the way it is" And I'm not proposing any ship or theory here. I'm saying that I love the way they put these little lines in to make it obvious that they know about the fans arguments about ships and theories, and found a way to put it in to make us laugh. Also, for those who disliked Super! Chloe it was toned down here.
6) And finally..my MAIN MAN Clark. I think they redeemed him after Wither. Perhaps what they did in Wither was done on purpose to show the progression here. When I saw the episode, I thought "Yes, Clark IS the MAN again! Tell Green Arrow whose show this is DAMMIT!"
I loved how he told GA that "we will be even when you do X, Y and Z" and then walked away. End of discussion. Who is GA to tell Clark what to do??? I don't think so!!
And I loved how Clark got onto Chloe's computer and did away with her files! Ok, so we were arguing about Dumb!Clark before, but obviously this boy has skills that we don't know about. So he got by her password and erased the files or whatever..loved it! I hope to see some more devlopment of his computer skills.
As for the Clark, GA, Lois scene in GA apartment, and all the lines being dropped about Clark "masking his feelings under sarcasm", and Lois making clear to both men that she is not their "territory" to be marked...meh...whatever...i'm just glad it wasnt too over the top...don't really care for it..
Overall, good episode.
Posted by: meg | October 20, 2006 8:54 AM
Smallville was really awesome last night with Clark and the Green Arrow battling it out and Clark using his detective skills to identify the Green Arrow.
Posted by: Giselle | October 20, 2006 8:22 AM