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November 30, 2007

Who pays?

My friend L asked this question, via another friend, the other day:
Here's a question I can only ask a lesbian (or you). How do you feel about who pays for the date? I just hate the moment when the check comes. So I prefer to just pay for dinner and have it be over and done with. I'd be uncomfortable with the other person paying and I feel like if just one person pays then it's more of a date - so that leaves me to pay. But does that make a person uncomfortable? What do kids do these days?

Ahhh. The age-old question of who pays. It's age-old because nobody knows.

I think there is no hard and fast rule. When I was dating men, I'd generally let them pay. (Of course, that was mostly in high school/early college.) When I was dating women, I'd generally split the check, at least on the first date, though it still would be a little awkward when the check came. After the first date, I'd go by the rule of who asked whom out.

Now, being a fuddy duddy in a relationship, it doesn't really matter anymore, though I kinda still go by the who asked whom out rule. I think that rule works out best in all situations. But that doesn't account for other factors -- male or butch egos, people's comfort levels, finances, etc.

Help my friend L out. How do you negotiate the situation when the bill comes?
 

November 29, 2007

When it ends

I often disagree with Moxie of Sex and Moxie, but last week, she was on point. A reader detailed a relationship gone wrong. "I just want to get some closure regarding what had happened," she wrote.

Moxie's response?
The [crappy] thing about dating, I've learned, is that sometimes you just don't get that much sought after closure that you'd like. You have to understand...nobody likes to deal with confrontation. Nobody likes to have those uncomfortable conversations. And many, many people are just not invested enough in other people's happiness or well-being to care enough to provide that closure. So you have to give it to yourself. You do that by assessing the situation, seeing where you went wrong, acknolwedging it and moving on.
To which I say, right on. I have a friend who was somewhat recently dumped. In the immediate aftermath, she would often say wanted to call the ex, that she wanted to get closure on the relationship. "No!" I would say. "Calling him will do you no good. And you will never get the closure you think you could get."

As a chronic breaker-upper, I have been on the receiving end of demands for closure. And even as the person who has ended it, I've also had to tamp down the urge to call and demand my own closure to a relationship ("Yes, I CLOSED it, but i didn't get CLOSURE," I'd whine). But in my experience, most of the time, closure is a myth, a fantasy. You will never, no matter what, get an answer that is satisfactory, because matters of the heart do not lie in the realm of logic.

In the matter of my friend, she eventually called her ex anyway, and said she did get some bit of closure. I'm skeptical, but stranger things have happened.

Do you think closure is possible?

Healthy hearts

I'm a little behind on my Internetular reads, so today, dear readers, I'll share the highlights of the past week and a half. If you haven't seen it, it's new to you, right? :)


Over on Low-Carb Love, Marissa Gold talks about the role medical history can play in picking a mate. That's right, I said medical history:
I was once in a relationship with a guy who had a shoddy family health history. He was an athlete, and physically he was in great shape, but his cholesterol was high and he'd already had an operation on his heart. To make matters worse, his father and grandfather both came down with serious diseases early in life. As I imagined the possibility of spending the rest of my life with him, I couldn't help but worry that the future we'd have together could be cut short.

Marissa makes the point that anyone's health can go any time, but pondered if pre-existing health conditions could be a sign that you need to drop him.

Apart from obvious comments about genetics and survival of the fittest, is it really that serious? Mr. Perfect volunteers at the soup kitchen, but his grandmother has diabetes. He's out. Miss Lovely totally gets me but she has high cholesterol and a family history of hypertension. Since when did dating become akin to applying for health insurance? Perhaps we are becoming too choosy.

Or do you disagree? Do you think Marissa has a point?

November 28, 2007

The beat-down

I was in the checkout line the other day and a headline on an issue of Marie Claire -- Dating Now: Why Is It More Difficult Than Ever? -- caught my eye. So I bought it. For research, of course.

But as I stared at the cover on my way home, I realized just how self-defeating women's magazines can be, especially for singletons.

Just take a glance at the cover I saw:

Subliminal messages?
1. Got curves? Curves has become the nice way to say you're not rail skinny. In other words, you're fat. And since you're fat, we're going to give you a list of tricks ("fixes") that will cover up your pounds of blubber.

2. Finding your happy weight. Since we've already established that you're fat, we're gonna tell you how to be OK with your weight. Even though it's not. Think we're wrong? Look at our models!

3. Dating now. Dating is harder. You might as well give up now.

4. Jennifer Garner. Now that we've established that you're fat and dateless, you can read about a celebrity who already has a nice body, is ambitious and has "tamed" her man. You want to know how to tame your man, don't you? That is, if you can find one now that dating is so hard.

5. 99 pages of beauty. So you know what to buy and wear so you can trap your man.

6. Test your sex IQ. You have to know can how good or bad you are in bed. That way, you singletons can catch a man and tame him like Jennifer Garner did to Ben!

7. Bags & Shoes. Because you can fill the void of your singleton loneliness with pretty material goods.


Do you dare stare?

You're walking down the street with your sweetie and a particularly tasty piece of eye candy walks past. Your boo gives a look as Tasty McYummy walks past.

Is that a punishable offense?

I say no. I'm wont to glance at eye candy too. If I can look, why can't my S.O.?

According to David Zinczenko over at Mysteries of the Sexes Explained, Men's Health recently did a survey on whether men will ogle when their significant other is there. According to the survey, he says:

+ 53 percent say that if the opening's there, they'll take it
+ 28 percent say they'll do it only in extreme cases, or if wearing sunglasses
+ 19 percent say they'd never do it, because they'd like to keep their parts properly attached

I'm with the 53 percent. You're not dead to everyone else when you commit to someone; the fact that you chose to be with this person over other viable candidates is what makes commitment so special. And if other people can turn your head, you might as well acknowledge it openly. Not stop-in-your-tracks-howl-at-the-moon-catcall acknowledge it -- that IS a punishable offense, on many levels -- but a look, a glance, is fine by me. We're human.

I know that part of the fear of those who take offense at an S.O.'s wandering eye is that the rest of their boo will eventually wander too. But as Zinczenko points out on his blog, there are other factors that are better predictors of infidelity than a stare. Like past history. Or your sweetie's interaction with people they see every day.

And when it comes down to it, it's all about trust. If you are secure in your relationship and know that your sugar won't stray, a look means nothing, right?

November 27, 2007

Not-so-happy noshers

A group of Manhattanites are suing dating service It's Just Lunch because they say the service lied to them about their blind lunch dates.

I told a friend of mine, a Baltimorean who has used the service, and she has made an appointment with a lawyer about her own experiences with the dating service.

What do you think? Do you think the women should be suing the service? Has anyone had good or bad experiences with the site?

(Also, if for nothing else, check out the article for the comments.)

Local love

While waiting at a stoplight in Hampden the other day, I saw a billboard for Charm City Singles. (Apparently it's a link to date-baltimore.com.)

Has anyone tried it?

Equality and satisfaction

According to Rutgers researcher Laurie Rudman, feminists do it better.

After talking to 513 college students and 471 adults ages 18 to 65, Rudman found that not only are feminist women more likely to be in a relationship, men paired with female feminists were more likely to be satisfied sexually and have "greater relationship stability," she told the Chicago Tribune.

Her method was a little spotty -- she based her results on a questionnaire that asked people whether they felt they were feminists, if they were in a relationship, their view of their attractiveness, and their view of their relationship in terms of quality, equality, stability and sexual satisfaction -- but I dig the results. And in theory, it would make sense. From author and counselor Gina Odgen:
"If a relationship is based on authoritarian control, keeping one
person on top and the other underneath, it gets old pretty fast — for
both partners, really," said Ogden, a Boston sex therapist who
surveyed 3,810 people for her book "The Heart and Soul of Sex."
       "In an egalitarian relationship, there is more flow of give and
take," she said, "and that's the romantic tension. That tension — the
sexual desire — is in that space between you where you're able to flow
back and forth."
       In her experience, said Ogden, "where there's caring, sharing,
openness and honesty, sexual satisfaction increases. It not only feels
good now, but it is likely to get better and better as you age."
And she has a point. If both people feel they are getting a pretty fair shake, their more likely to be happy in the relationship and are more likely to stay. But I'll be completely transparent about my bias -- I am a feminist. I'd like to think we are attractive and more likely to be in a relationship. What do you think?

November 26, 2007

Meet me Monday: Michaelle Weaver

Michaelle (pronounced like Michael) grew up in West Baltimore and was raised by her dad.

"It was just the two of us, till he got married," she says. "...I'm my daddy’s baby."

Possibly because of their close bond, he dad is a tough nut to crack, especially for would-be suitors.

"Nobody met my dad until my boyfriend before my fiance," she says. "My dad was always really strict, and my friends thought he was so mean until they got to know him."

Michaelle WeaverName, age, status:
Michaelle Weaver, 24, engaged.

Where she calls home:
downtown/Gay Street neighborhood.

How she makes a living:
She works for Baltimore City child support.
Michaelle's also studying business management at Catonsville Community College. 
She says she eventually wants to "own her own business and perhaps open up her own homeless shelter."

How he proposed:
Michaelle and her fiance met in the military -- they're both Marines. They've been together two and a half years and have a 14-month-old son. Her fiance proposed on Father's Day.
"We were actually home, getting ready for church and we were kind of having a falling out," she says. "...I was upset. And he was like, ‘Well, I was gonna wait...’" 
She says that the argument had started over gifts -- she didn't get a Mother's Day gift.
"It was Father’s Day morning, and I had given his gift and stuff and I had just gotten upset," she says. "He was gonna give it [the ring] to me on Mother’s Day. Of course, I didn’t know, and the day didn’t go as he had planned."

Best date:
Her idea of a fantastic date is simple, she says:
"I just like it when we have some time to ourselves, we’ll see a movie, have something to eat, those are good dates."
But, when it comes down to it, she says she's not really the dating kind, never has been.

Is dating dead?

Just because she's not a dating person doesn't mean she thinks the whole practice is a lost art. "I think dates are still pretty popular," she says. "...It’s easy to just say 'Hey let’s go see a movie, get something to eat.'"
 
Her ideal mate:
Educated.
Has a job.
Someone who's financially stable: "Nothing like being rich, but at least somebody who’s not in debt terribly."
Attractiveness is essential too: "Of course, good looking. I want something nice to look at," she laughs.
Also: "Someone who can definitely hold a conversation. And someone who’s definitely into family."
 
Has her fiance changed her vision of her ideal?
"I think he has changed it a bit. I used to be into guys taking me out and giving me things."
She says he has changed her views of what's important. "When you get into a more serious relationship, it’s not about going out all the time and getting things," she says. "It’s really a partnership and how you work for each other and with each other."
Her current relationship has made her less selfish, she says.
"It’s not about me. Before, I was like, 'I wanna go here and do that' and 'Can you get me this and that' ... Now it’s more of a partnership, it’s 50-50. You make up where he lacks, he fills where you lack."

Opinion of the Baltimore dating scene?
"I don’t think it’s that good," she says.
People's priorities are off, she thinks.
"The people are just completely different nowadays. The women are into what kind of cars they drive and how they dress. ...And some of the guys are just into who they can get with."
But she says it's not limited to Baltimore.
"I think it’s more of a generation thing," she says. "That’s anywhere."

Best place to meet people:
"I think Fells Point is a pretty good social area. Definitely anywehere downtown, [like] the harbor, where you can walk and pass people and stop and talk."

Favorite neighborhood:
"When I lived in Bolton Hill, that was probably my favorite," she says. "It's just so pretty."
From the big brick houses to the brownstones and grassy spaces it was a nice area to live in and ride her bike, she says. "I love it."

Deal-breakers?
"I don’t like laziness at all."
Chatty Chads are a no-no for her, too.
"He can’t talk more than me,"she says. "... I like to get the last word."
Men who don't have a sense of self are also thrown quickly into the reject pile.
"I don’t like somebody that’s not independent," she says. "... A friend used to have, he was just ... sometimes I felt like his mother." 
And clean man is the way to her heart.
"I don’t like anybody that’s not clean and looks nice and smells good."

Best thing about being with someone:
"Always having somebody around."

Worst thing about being with someone:
"Cleaning up after somebody. Even if it’s just something little, like washing extra dishes. When it’s just you, everything can be in place and they way you like it."

November 23, 2007

More games

My friend M sent me a link to this article from MSN dating and personals about the "Chemistry-and-Run."

"I've been a victim," she said.

The Chemistry-and-Run, for the uninitiated, is when you meet someone, you totally seem to make a connection, and yet, at the end of the night, there's no follow-through. No date, no nothing.

So what do you do? According to Denver-based dating coach Jennifer Oikle, you use tactics to cajole the guy into knowing your interested and therefore encourage him to ask you out.

The reasons for the Chemistry-and-Run are pretty reasonable, but I have a quibble with the solution. Instead of throwing compliments to show that you're interested or dropping hints about where he can take you out, why not just ask him out yourself?

I missed the original Sadie Hawkins Day (Nov. 10), so let's just go ahead and make the next day you meet a promising person Sadie Hawkins Day. Think of it as a floating holiday.

November 22, 2007

Where men fail, "science" prevails



I ran across these cheesy little easy shot jokes a few months ago, but at that point, I simply read them and passed them on as stupid little "women are complicated" jokes. For Thanksgiving, I'll cut them a little slack.

Happy Turkey Day, folks.

November 20, 2007

Say no to loafers

And I'm not talking about the shoes.

Remember when I talked about feeling funny about taking money from an S.O.? Well here is why.

A 24-year-old writes into Hold My Purse about her cute waiter boyfriend who exhibits the not-so-cute behavior of borrowing money, promising to pay her back and never doing so. She writes that she's started keeping track, and confronted said boyfriend about it, only to have it thrown back at her:

I got up the nerve to mention it the other night and he got really mad saying, "why are you so hung up on money…why don't you go find a rich guy if that's your thing." Since then, he refuses to have sex with me.

Her advisors say to confront him about the $417 debt. And though I think that the itemized list is definitely a sign that something is wrong, I dig John's advice: Give him the list, close up the pocketbook, and perform her own sex strike until he treats her right.

What do you think?

November 19, 2007

Meet me Monday: Lauren Stoian

Lauren is a Cali girl, from San Francisco. She got a bachelor's in political communications  -- "Nothing you can get any kind of job with," she says -- then trekked across the country to study nursing.

After working with a nurse practitioner who dealt with a lot of women's health and gay rights issues, she decided that that was her career path. She found her focus at the Baltimore Juvenile Justice Center: young people.

"The kids were amazing," she said. "I think that's the whole reason to do it. They're so much fun. They're good kids that have made bad choices."

Ultimately, she wants to run her own teen clinic, preferably in the inner city.

"Baltimore was a great move for me," she says. "... I'm the only person who would say I wanted to come here for the crime, and I wanted to come here for the STDs."

Lauren StoianName, age, status:
Lauren Stoian, 28, engaged.

Where she calls home:
Remington.
She moved here from San Francisco in 2003.
"To go to school. I have to preface it with that. Because everyone is like, 'Why would you come here?'"

How she makes a living:
She does agency nursing, but is also in school full-time. She's getting her master's degree in nursing.

Worst date:
She had a first date at a wedding.
"It was probably the worst because I didn't know the guy -- it was a friend of a friend of a friend," she says. He wanted to ask me out, and we talked on the phone a few times, and he was like, 'I have to go to this wedding.' 'OK?' 'Well, I need a date. Wanna come?' It was just so awkward."
Not only did she not know the guy, but she knew nobody at the wedding. And then, he imbibed just a little too much.
"He drank so much," she said. "I was so glad that I drove my own car. ... It was awful."
She says folks should think twice before making a wedding your first outing.
"It's kind of a strange place to take someone on a first date. I would definitely not recommend that. Especially somebody you don't really know."

Essentials for an ideal mate:
1. Smart.
2. Funny.
3. Good listener.
And there's some other key elements, too: "An overall good guy who's just willing to understand certain ideas -- hold the door open for old people, give up your seat when somone pregnant or old is standing up on the bus. Just normal things," she says.
"But really, it's just intelligent, can make me laugh and be there for me. And good to his friends."

Thoughts on the dating scene:
She dated a for about a year before she met her fiance.
"I learned not to meet guys at bars because that's where I met a lot of the guys I dated," she says. "And not to meet somebody at work. I dated a guy at work, and that was not good. Not a wise move."
She says she learned it's best to hold off on office romances, "unless it's gonna work out. But if it doesn't work out, it just gets really awkward. And even if it does -- I know people who date at work -- it's just awkward. They're always around.
Because I'm a nurse, you see a lot of nurses dating doctors. And the doctors are constantly around."
She doesn't completely knock picking up people in bars: "I know so many people it works for, it's just, for me, I'm not one of those lucky people. Guys I met at the bar are not what I would call the best men in the world. Some of them are great guys, just not for me."

How did she meet her fiance?
Playing intramural inner tube water polo.
"It was the day -- I love this story -- It was the day I took my boards for nursing, and I was just in a bad mood, I didn't think I did well, and my friend, who's also in his program, said, 'Well, we need a girl to play this, maybe it'll make you feel better,' and I met him.
"And the funny thing is, when I met him, he was wearing a fraternity shirt, and I was like, 'Oh, this is a dumb jock, whatever,' and he took off his shirt and I was like, 'He's attractive. Dumb, but he's attractive,'" she says. "And then I got to talking to him and I was like, 'He's not stupid.'
"So, I can't say it was love at first sight. I'm sure he can't say it either."

Best way to meet people:
She says through friends. Through school isn't a bad way either, though as a nurse, your options are limited. "It's a little bit harder when you're a nurse and all you are around is girls," she says.
But a lot of nurses she knows end up going the co-worker route.
"I work in the ER, so I meet a lot of nurses who are dating firefighters or medics because that's who you interact with who aren't at the hospital constantly.
"That way they're not really there. And in the hospital, it's OK to date somebody in the hospital, just not on on your floor. It's kind of like when you were in college, there was dormcest? It's the same thing in the hospital. Just don't date somebody on your floor. No patients either."
She's also still a proponent of dating friends, but they have their downside too.
"Ideally friends, but then if things don't work out, then friends have to choose sides. ... There's never a good answer for that. of cheese."

Deal-breakers:
"Some of them are kinda ridiculous," she says.
"Someone who is anti-choice," she says. "Someone who's racist or homophobic or anything like that."
Idiots need not apply too, she says, and there's also one other thing: "And no goody-goodies. Never smoked, never drank, never did drugs, that's just too good. And not that I'm a huge freak or anything. ... those are kind of the ones I stay away from."

On Internet dating:
She says she thinks it works if you're really committed to it and go in with the knowledge that people aren't going to be completely truthful.
"There was a guy on there who said he was 5'4." And I was like, I'm 5'2", 5'3", no big deal," she says. "This guy was not 5'4". I was taller than him."
And men aren't the only cuprits, she says. "You'll have the women who say 'I weigh 100 pounds.' And even if you're thin, you're not 100 pounds. Just be honest."

Best thing about being with someone:
"On a bad day, he's always there for me. I've had a couple of bad days and I'll come home -- we live together -- and he'll have dinner prepared, and flowers. It's just really nice to have that. Or somebody to cuddle with. ... Even when you're lonely and you're sad and when you're happy he's there."

Worst thing about being with someone:
Losing friends.
"It's hard," she says. "I had a friend that was single for a while. And she'd always be like, 'You talk to him all the time. You hang out together all the time.' And now that she's dating, she's doing the same thing. 'You were right, I understand now.'"
To counteract that, they try to include single friends, invite everyone out. But it doesn't always work out, she says.
"It's hard for single people no matter what you do. You guys are sitting across the room from each other and they're like, 'Oh I just feel like a third wheel.' ... I think that's an issue with you and not reality."

And lastly, if she could date anyone in history:
50 Cent -- "I think 50 Cent is so hot. I would just love to go out with him for just a little bit. He seems like he's smart. I'm gonna go with that." -- or Bill Clinton: "Because he just seems like he's got some weird sex appeal and he is smart."

Battle plan




Just in case you've been in a cave, Thanksgiving is Thursday.

Good things about Thanksgiving: Turkey. Football. Relatives. Pie.
Bad things about Thanksgiving: Relatives.

Specifically, the inevitable annoying relationship questions. If you're single: "Dating anyone?" If you're dating someone: "When are you getting married?"

Anyone have some snappy comebacks for hapless Thanksgivingers?

November 16, 2007

In *that* category

I've been meaning to post about this for weeks, but I figured I'd slip this in on a Friday.

A girl wrote in to Sex & Moxie, asking about a situation where she met a guy online, met for drinks a few times and slept together a few times. However, whenever she asks him out for a more public date, he says no.

Moxie's response?
There are two types of women that men hang with. The ones they'd screw but never date, and the ones they'd date openly in public. You're the former, for this guy at least. They only "date" a certain "type" of woman. But for sex? They aren't as picky. Not sure who does this more - men or women. I've heard a story hear or there about women who do this but I've mostly only heard of men who do it. Usually it's because the woman isn't as attractive as they think she should be, or she's not from the same social class or soemthing like that. Whatever it is, she's not someone he wishes to hang with in public.

A few guy friends have explained this to me before, although one friend of mine said that a lot of times, it's not a matter of someone you'd want to be seen in public with; it's usually more of a matter of how the relationship started. If it started as a sex-based relationship, it cannot then transfer to a more-datey, non-fling situation.

And, according to these guys, the problem comes up when some women try to "get in" through sex and then transfer into long-term girlfriend. They'll meet a successful, upwardly mobile cute guy who is hoing around, sowing his wild oats, hook up with him and then try to stick around until he's ready to settle down, they say. It doesn't work that way, they say.

I'm a little grossed out by this logic. But I can also see their point a little bit -- If the offer is for a limited time only, you can't haggle it into a lifetime offer.

What do you think? And is it just men who do this or think this way? I suspect not.

A note and a consolation

mmm. beer.If you hadn't noticed the past two weeks, I am suspending the Guilty Pleasure Fridays. It perhaps will be an occasional series, but no more guilty pleasures every Friday. I've already been weaning you off of it, right?

So, as a consolation prize, here's a beer. Or rather, talk of it.

What does a drink say about a woman? A few weeks ago, Sam de Brito of the Sydney Morning News wrote a treatise on women who drink beer. They're more down-to earth. They're more wallet-friendly. It's a sign of good breeding. (The Dog's Name also has a pretty good take on beer-drinking women.)

Now, I'm not sure if beer-drinking women are such a rarity in the U.S. as it seems to have been in Australia. It seems more women drink beer around here than anything else. But perhaps it's a Baltimore thing. Here in Baltimore, we're REAL women. Screw the fancy, high-maintenance drinks. Give us a Natty Boh.

And while we're on the subject of judging women for their drinks, I'd argue that men probably get harsher judgment. If you're a guy and you're in a bar with an apple martini, you're so not getting lucky tonight.

Photo courtesy of mythsclub.com


November 15, 2007

And while we're on the subject...

...of Thanksgiving, according to the Smell & Taste Treatment and Research Foundation, the smell of pumpkin pie and lavender can make men randy.

If you're going home with a honey, DON'T pass him the pumpkin pie at the family table.

Take me home

For Saturday's column, I'm writing about bringing S.O.s home for Thanksgiving dinner. It's funny how some people can see it as nothing major at all, while others see it as a huge deal, so much so that they would rarely ever do it.

I'm hosting Thanksgiving this year, so instead of bringing my boyfriend home, I'm bringing the family to us. I think bringing someone home is a bit of a big deal, only because you're exposing your boo to the family crazy. It's kind of like that phrase, if you want to know what she'll look like in 30 years, look at her mother, except worse. In my case, that means a by-the-Bible grandmother, add a dash of family drama, and Boyfriend's father, who is very off-the-cuff. My cousin has already asked where the alcohol is stashed.

Just to give you an idea, here's a picture of my family back in the day:


You wanna bring your S.O. home to this?

See? One guy's happy (but he has food), everyone else seems distracted, confused and/or unamused, and the kid in the middle -- yeah, that's me with no hair, what of it? -- certainly doesn't seem happy.

Perhaps I'm oversharing. Back to you. Anybody taking somebody home for Thanksgiving? Anyone have some Thanksgiving horror stories? Is it a big deal for you?

November 14, 2007

The perfect fireball

I had a really interesting conversation with a friend this morning about fireball romances. He, like me, had his fireball romance in college; he, like me, was involved with an artist. However, that's where the similarities end.

His was short (6 months) while mine went way too long (more than 2 years). And while I spent nearly every waking moment with my fireball, his was more casual -- they would meet up every few days, have a very intense time together, leave each other inspired, come back for more a few days later. And they never committed to each other. It was an open relationship from the start.

Perhaps that's the key to a fireball romance that ends somewhat well; keep it short, keep it separate, keep it sweet. And also, perhaps fireball romances are not for everyone, especially for those who like to OD on a good thing. Like me.

Girls like this; boys like that