John & Kate watch Jon & Kate...separate
Tonight, after we've already learned that Jon and Kate Gosselin have started divorce proceedings, John and Kate Plus Two watched the "big announcement" episode.
Jon says he's clearing the land for the kids to receive a present of "crooked houses" himself because he'll take "any excuse to get on the tractor and knock down trees. It's a man thing."
John: "What I really want is a sit-down mower."
Kate: "It's sad, she looks very lukewarm about it."
John: "She's depressed....Jon just wants to be a dude. Hanging out with the bikers and the truckers, using heavy machinery."
John: "They are at war."
Kate: "So who's right?"
John: "It's a substitute for what they're supposed to be dealing with. They're just focusing their attention on anything like that. Somebody's got to win. That's what I mean about, they're at war. No negotiation. No communication."
Kate: "But that give-and-take is hard in any marriage, isn't it?"
John: "But did you see give-and-take there? She said she'd risk World War III....This is kind of a side thing they're using to get at each other."
Kate: "15 percent off Jon and Kate DVDs....yeowch."
John: "Are the kids wearing Crooked House T-shirts?"
Scene: Jon says that whatever their problems, they're 'there for the kids,' through crooked houses, etc.
Kate S.: "But are they really there for them? Do they think the kids can't tell?"
John: "The problem for her is, wasn't he staying at home with them?"
Kate S.: "I guess she has help. Or maybe she won't be able to travel."
John: "So they get all these free things. Do you think someone could have given them some counseling? What attempts did they make to salvage this marriage?"
Kate: "So do you think whatever he or she has done, that they should try that?"
John: "Certainly it isn't good to fight in front of your kids, and some marriages probably should be ended. But is (ending it) the first thing you do?"
Kate: "Is there any way we can know how much of this was the fame itself, and how much is just two different people?"
John: "I think the fame created a lot of stress. Plus they couldn't deal with their problems in a normal way. How can you be normal when you're stalked by the paparazzi and you're in the tabloids, and in blogs."
Kate S.: "Like this one..."
John: "You wonder how much spanking TLC decided not to show."
Kate S.: "Boy, it's like Enchanted Forest!"
The interviewer points out that Jon and Kate are in different houses, "like a shell game." Kate talks about how Jon won't discuss anything with her.
Kate S.: "TLC is really milking this in an unpleasant way."
Jon talks about how the crooked house guys did delivery and assembly all in one day.
Kate S.: "Could this be more of a commercial?"
Jon says their relationship "is our deal" and that he was too passive. But Kate claims this would have played out had the world been watching or not. They both say they have been dealing with this for 7-8 months. They go to commercial still not saying what they're going to do.
Kate S.: "Oh, this is ridiculous."
John: "It's profoundly sad."
Kate S.:"Yes, it is sad. But I just kind of think it's sick that they're playing it this way for drama. They're participating in it."
John: " I would love to know what the filmmakers think. They've been watching this train wreck in front of them. Do they want to avert their gaze?"
At 9:43, Jon finally says "Kate and I have decided to separate." Kate says she knows it's necessary because her goal is "peace for the kids." She says kids will remain in the house and that she and Jon will share custody and will live in the house during their time with the kids to maintain stability.
Kate: "That's how a lot of people are handing divorce now. I have to respect that arrangement. Then again....this also allows the show to go on."
They start to show scenes from the beginning episodes of the show.
John: "Now the rock video."
And then, indeed, Jon says the show will go on and they'll both be involved. Kate says what worries her the most is how the kids will see they've failed, and they are another statistic. And that she's afraid of being alone.
Kate S.: "Wow. I don't know what to say. How are they going to tell the kids? And are we going to see that?"
John: "Good question. And that'll be a hard one to watch."
Last scene: family goes to brunch on Mother's Day. Kate talks about the way they used to work together on the simplest thing, like walking eight kids into a restaurant in the rain.
John: "He's parked in the handicapped spot."
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Episodes to go
40 Kate puts up stripper pole in living room
39 Steve the bodyguard moves in
38 The 8 vote who is the best disney land parent
37 Maddy and Leigh caught selling moms cocaine at school
36 Kate sues to keep Jon from receiving tv contract money
35 Jon sues Kate for custidy of kids
34 Twins run away from home
33 Kate introduces perfume and clothing line
32 State of PA takes custidy of kids for child abuse and labor laws
31 Kate is pregnant again with twins
30 Jon runs for state senator
29 Kate takes hostiges over losing custidy of kids
28 Kids do field trip to white house
27 Kids burn down the big house playing with matches
26 Jon injured in car accident
25 American Chopper puts kids to work building $150,000 bikes
24 Kids sue both parents for estate and tv show earnings
23 Kate gets guard job in mens state prison delivers her new twins
22 Bodygaurd Steve proposes to Kate
21 Jon takes Russian mail order bride
20, 19, 15, 3, 2, 1
Posted by: Erica | June 22, 2009 10:33 PM
I think it is really tacky of TLC to continue with this show. I know Jon and Kate want it because of the MONEY but showing a family in crisis on national TV well that is really going to increase the ratings!!!!
Tacky, Tacky, No Class
Posted by: jenna | June 22, 2009 10:46 PM
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Posted by: Rick Garner | June 22, 2009 10:49 PM
This is so unbelievably crazy
Posted by: Anonymous | June 22, 2009 11:05 PM
Kate, did you ever think that you should just let John make a mistake? So what if he puts the houses in the wrong spot. Couldn't they be moved later? Look back on all the times you insisted something was done a certain way and ask yourself, was it really so important? You can have everything so perfect but no one there to share it with you. You're a great mother and have lots of good ideas, teach your children many good qualities, but you have to bend more. This is all so sad, and I don't believe that the fighting is hurting them as much as the long term effects of divorce will. Staying married is the hardest thing, but after 20, 25 yrs. you will feel so proud of yourselves and your kids will have a whole family with no divisions and sad feelings. Do THAT for your kids.
Posted by: Lisa | June 22, 2009 11:23 PM
Dont sweat the small stuff Kate. It's really not that big a deal. Don't treat John like one of your kids, he's a man and should be treated with respect and not degraded all the time. You two make a great couple, you compliment each other well. Work it out stop all this sillyness. Yor kids are beautiful and you have to stop and think you two made those special creathers..
Posted by: patsy | June 23, 2009 7:33 AM
An Old Friend Of Jon's (Not Kate's) Speaks Up (Interesting): http://tinyurl.com/oyqsfm
Posted by: moneyremix | June 23, 2009 8:25 AM
As if this isn't all weird enough, here in Denver, the Colorado Healthy Marriage Project ran commericals in the "local" ad spots.
P.S. I'm with John. I'd like a riding lawn mower, too.
Posted by: Bucky | June 23, 2009 9:52 AM
I wish they could have worked it out. I still think its possible even now. (Not that I know the ins and outs.) I believe that love is and always should be unconditional. No matter how hard things get. Jon obviously has regret and remorse for whatever it was that he did. I mean you can see it in his face when he's doing interviews. I think Kate is being to cold and should forgive. Then maybe they could really try to work it out.
Posted by: Tammy | June 23, 2009 10:03 AM
I think, that while they may WANT the show to go on, they're going to have a hard time keeping up viewership after this/next season... which may be best for everybody involved. Those kids, for one reason or another, will wind up in therapy later in life - and that may not be the worst thing either.
Posted by: Lissa | June 23, 2009 10:26 AM
We've been married 28 years. Life is tough. You can survive the hard times. With God's help, you can do it! It's worth it.
Posted by: Cheryl | June 23, 2009 12:22 PM
Jon & Kate...I'm not gonna tell ya that you're doing the wrong things for your kids or that you're gonna regret getting a divorce. I'll tell you nothing mean about yourselves or anything of the sort. But what I will say is that what you're doing is going to affect a lot, in good and also bad ways. You won't get to see the kids as much and... well that's the thing you're doing this to help your kids becuz of all the arguing. I personally think that it's your choice and that you should go your own ways if that's what you think will help your family. I love your show and if you decide to keep doing it, GREAT. I think it's your decision and your life, so do with it what you please. God bless you and your marvalous kids. And even though I'm a kid still, my parents had a divorce and moved all the way across the country, but they came back together. I just hope that'll happen to you guys.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2009 12:59 PM
Erica's list is hysterical. I needed a light moment in all of this. In spite of all the drama last night, was I the only one a little creeped out by the fact that all eight kids had to be escorted to the van under an umbrella at the end? Even if you are in your Sunday best, a little rain never hurt anyone (especially kids).
Posted by: Cheryl at Maryland Family | June 23, 2009 1:12 PM
We as the outsiders of this situation can't really say just forgive him Kate, because we don't know what is going on in Kate's mind, we don't know how hard is this for her... I think that whatever decision you take you have to think as a mother first but not forgeting that you are a woman too. And John if you are really sorry for what you did let her know that you are. Good Luck!!!
Posted by: Pahola | June 23, 2009 1:43 PM
John you are so selfish you just want to have a good time. Well you had all those children so you have give in to all that.if you had to work a job to pay for everything for those children it would be so much harder on you. grow up and don't destroy your family work it out with kate
Posted by: pauline | June 23, 2009 7:19 PM
Man.... This really hurts to see.
With all of the junk you sit down and watch on television these days via stations such as MTV this was a genuine reality program that had the ability to open the eyes of young americans across the country. I'm 19 years old and my parents have been together........ since the stone age it seems. hah. I'll take a stab at it and say around 25 years. I could not imagine how a divorce would have psychologically affected me throughout my life. I cannot fathom how a divorce is going to affect these 8 children. When they grow up and realize everything I can only hope they have enough strength, faith and hope in their lives to overcome an ordeal like this. I really want to see them back together. Kate needs to stop being so anal over everything being her way and Jon needs to fess up and hope Kate has a forgiving heart. We'll see how this plays out. Was a nice four years to watch either way. Hopefully people can learn from this and have a better realization of what love is and how beautiful it can be. Good luck Jon, good luck kate and god bless the children.
Posted by: Brandon | June 24, 2009 5:41 AM
OK, basically who cares? I certainly don't and neither do most of the people I know. Do you understtand how many people in this country and world have it so much worse than this family who lucked into a tv show? There are many families in this country who have more children, and less funds available to them, but they don't choose to exploit their families. Let's celebrate them and tell these publicity mongers to go home and take care of their kids.
Posted by: Jeri McNeeley | July 1, 2009 9:51 PM