All of the scenes from tonight shows were prior to last weeks shows. It's not in order so they would look at each other a little or be on the chair together a little. Last weeks show was fillmed around may 18, 2009.... Tonights show circa march 28, 2009 and who knows shen they went to san diego.... Certainly not as grabbing as last week. Pull the plug tlc.

I am so glad that they are looking at each other and talking to one another because I love this show and if they both went there seperate ways they would regrete it later down the rode. So I hope they continue becoming closer again.

Yes, I hate it too that they are pretending that all is well and going according to plan, "Not"
I'm not the only one to notice how sexy Kate has gotten? Boobies hanging out alot! And she is in full makeup all the time! That never happened before, right? Sexy high heels, (Are they designer shoes? Don't get me wrong I'd like for them to work out their problems for the sake of the kids but just last week it was very obvious that they couldn't stand being near each other and now this week miracuosly they can actually smile at each other. Give me a break!

I agree with Taffy that the activities and interviews in tonight's episodes took place before those aired last week, when they displayed much more tension and unhappiness. I hope things get better again.

I think it's best to shut this circus down in the insterest of the children! If you are as annoyed with this "show" as so many are, please express your opinion directly to TLC: http://corporate.discovery.com/contact/viewer-relations/

So the latest show just aired, what a farce it has become.
Kate is all me me me, poor little me, subtle comments all the time how hard she has had it, how she is alone yadda yadda....
This season (only two shows in)she is totally focused on herself, talks an awful lot using words such as "me", "I" over and over...
Has TLC taken sides and give her much of the air time.
What's with the new clothes, make up etc and now the emphasis on her her body....... she is dressing like a 19 or 20 year old, doesn't look much like a mom anymore, the hair style is hillarious ..... seems to be all about the $$$ and the glamor.
I suppose the contract and $$ rule their lives now, so very different to the original family we saw and admired for their struggle and overcoming.
Very disappointing ...

Kate's shoes cost $355 (heels anyway). Tonights shows were not that good. Only way the show will end is if the ratings go down. I don't think I will keep watching it if they are "pretending to be nice". There is lots more on satelite that I can watch. The cake show was all set up. Kate isn't a very good actress. She is the same age as my kids. They dress nice too but they don't have to have designer shoes! Is this money set aside for the kids in a trust? Since they do set up shows like the cake thing are the kids now considered acting?

Please seek help to stay together :) , you have enough money now ,go and live Happy like Jon wants with the family intact God Bless

The more money Kate makes the more make up she has on. Come on, how can it go unnoticed that she's glamour mom now. The theme song for their show should now be cyndi lauper's "Money Changes Everything". Shoot, if they did that I'd watch the show just to hear the song, I love that song! Other than that, I don't think the show is worthy enough to watch anymore. It is completely stripped of it's reality content. They need to cancel the show otherwise it's now just considered a soap opera to me and I don't dig that.

I wonder how many people will continue to watch as the show has devolved into a shallow, staged and boring disaster. How can any real families dealing with today's economy relate to an obviously wealthy family with bigger and fancier toys for the children and parents, hired help, and many, many vacations. I watched the first season just this year, and the contrast now is shocking. What a sad waste.

the premiere was recently taped, the others shows were before then.

Sick of Kate for longer than this year. Teaching young women to belittle their husbands.,,, and now the SHAM of the show. She has a housekeeper, 3 chefs, personal assistant.. ugh.. and then she sits and whines she has to put party boxes together all by her poor selfish little self... whoaisme... what happened to the Kate that cooked 2 weeks of meals before her tummy tuck. She is teaching 5 girls to belittle men and 3 boys to be abused. Shame shame shame on her. God help her family.
I am done with this show. Cannot stand the lies.

Week 2 and no Jon & Kate plus 8 for household. Feels good to stop the enabling!

It's completely fake....
There relationship hasn't been good from the start. Sorry fans out there . It's time to pull the plug on the show. They lost my viewer ship last week.

the show tonight was filmed prior than last week. they decided to filmed last week because they thought it would answer alot of tabloid chatter, kate wanted jon gone to be with someone else...steve the bodyguard. boob job, hair, nails, ann taylor clothes. so i guess the rest of the shows are either kate or jon. he didnt cheat kate said its over. im sick of the pooor me of kate

Kate is why there is spousal abuse. My wife even says she needs smacked.

I've watched the show from the beginning but I didn't tonight and won't anymore. Shame on TLC for continuing to pay them. It's obvious that they, especially Kate, loves the attention and now thinks she's a real celebrity. She's loving all the attention and pretending like the paparazzi annoys her when in reality she loves it. She made me sick at that party last week. After I saw that show and heard her brother and sister in law say what she was really like I decided then that I wouldn't watch anymore. Everything she does is for her not for her kids like she says. What a conceited phony she's turned out to be. I feel sorry for Jon and the kids. I'm surprised it took him this long to leave her. I hope the kids turn out OK though. TLC is exploiting them for ratings. Shame on them.

Whether tonight's show was before or after last week's show, I think many long time fans watching the show is sensitive to the fact that the family dynamic doesn't feel the same anymore. It's possible tonight's episodes just happened to be separate parents in separate situations, but I think seeing Jon and Kate together to narrate the shows is pretty much over. I liked the style which gave the show balance between the two of them. Separated, you don't see both sides of a situation, all one sided narration. Let the family out of its contract so they can get on with their private lives.

Why is everyone so down on Kate. Jon is the one going off skiing without his kids. She's lost her husband and knows it. He doesn't love her anymore. What would you do? I'd be trying to look my best too. Having your husband stop loving you is devastating.

"Why is everyone so down on Kate. She's lost her husband and knows it. He doesn't love her anymore. Having your husband stop loving you is devastating."

I think it's pretty clear that Kate was the one to end the relationship. She appeared to be totally annoyed by his very breathing. I'm "so down on Kate" because I believe she is the engineer of this plan to make money off of 8 children. Jon should "grow some" and stop the filming.

Thanks for the take of the show. To me, it is obvious that this was taped prior to May d/t the amount of snow and it was actually snowing( snow in the camera lens). I really hope they seek counselling together or separately. Even if they do divorce, it will help them communicate. I wonder if they were contractually obligated to do 5 season's? Tabloid reads- Kate wants Jon to show up for tapings- read Jon if you don't show up for the tapings that will be breach of contract( said by either Kate or the producer of the show).. Not sure what the truth is. I liked the part were one of the twins was giving rides to the "little kids" in the battery operated car. She sounded so like her Mom. Kids do this, you know. It was the part where she was explaining to one of the kids who wanted to jump ahead of the line- She said something like- how would you feel if you were (name mumbled) and I took them first , then she drove off. It was a cute scene and typical of a large family.

Grace; we did get a laugh out of that one. I think you're right about the taping of the scenes; I wasn't as sure about the on-the-couch interviews, but you and others are probably right about that, too. It is pretty confusing for the viewer to keep track of this jumping around in "reality," isn't it? KS

IF I HAD A CHANCE FOR A REALITY SHOW AND MAKE THAT TYPE OF MONEY FOR MY FAMILY I WOULD!!

JON IS NOT HAPPY BUT, I'M SURE THE TRIP HE TOOK TO UTAH ON THIS EPISODE WAS A FREEBIE TOO!
HE COMPLAINS THAT THIS IS ALL TOO MUCH BUT, I DON'T SEE HIM REFUSING ANY TRIPS, MOTORCYCLES OR ANYTHING ELSE HE HAS BEEN GIVEN

AT LEAST KATE IS DOING WHAT SHE CAN FOR HER AND THE KIDS,(COLLEGE TUITION,TRAVEL ETC) AND SHE IS HONEST ABOUT IT ,,HECK I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULDN'T ACCEPT ALL THOSE THINGS....
SURE FAME HAS GONE TO KATES HEAD BUT , AS A MOM I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF HER FAMILY... ,
THE FLAME WILL BURN OUT SOON ENOUGH AND THE SHOW WILL END BUT, AT LEAST THE KIDS WILL HAVE SOME FINANCIAL HELP AS THE GET OLDER..

I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL BE WATCHING ANYMORE JON&KATE...
THEY BOTH TOOK THE 'REAL' OUT OF REALITY..

Where would reality tv be without stupid people watching stupid people.? Gotta run- the real houewives of new jersey is coming on and it's supposed to be a good one.

At first I was hoping things were better tonight but then Kate said something about her birthday being in March so I knew. I am very disturbed about people saying kids are being used. They have always had cameras and it isn't that often each week. These kids actually have it made. They get into places that our kids couldn't. I think it is great for them. Yes Kate has been too snappy with Jon in the past but maybe we should open our eyes to some things. He was fired from his job when she was pregnant. How hard would that be on a pregnant person. She probably has lost respect for him and with his drinking no one knows what she has to endure. He is a very slow person and actually has to be told what to do most of the time. And, he is one thing at a time. He says he doesn't like the show anymore. The show has been good for him. Bet he wouldn't be driving that new car had he been doing tech work with 8 kids. You don't see him taking the kids for the weekend. No he is in New York with two women at a bar. If he doesn't want to stay married then get out. He comes across as I will take my doll and leave. Let him. They could always make the show a single mom surviving with 8 kids. Kate is good to those kids. I am not a big Kate fan. I think she is snobby and probably not a nice person to people when you meet her. That is a judgmental call on my part. But she is a good Mom. She gets talked about for being away so much. She is on business earning money for the family while Jon takes his weekends off to go drinking. Jon needs to grow up and become a man. He says he was married young and had kids too young. So have many other men but they don't want to party all the time. If Jon had stayed in the job that fired him he would not have the time, money, or ability to party.

Yeah, I was confused about the couch scenes as well. Either, Jon and Kate had a "come to Jesus" meeting w/ the producer's or it was filmed prior to the show that aired last week. I did catch the part where Kate had to announce that she was on the "elliptical" when Jon called about the mouth incident. ( She is supposedly on vacation to spend one-on- one time with her daughter). To me, it just revealed reports of her improving her body image as being a priority. So who was taking care of the kid. ( If she had left this line out, we would have been none the wiser). If she wants to promote fitness that was not the way to do it. IMHO.

Random guy, this is an appalling statement for several reasons:
"Kate is why there is spousal abuse. My wife even says she needs smacked."

I would like to amend my last post. I should have said, if the producer's and/or Kate at left this statement out, we would have been none the wiser. I know she was being literal , as in saying the activity she was involved in at the time. Still, it does lean towards the producer's giving fodder to those of us w/ conspiracy theories regarding reality shows.

who said that the "real" was taken out of reality. I think that all this fodder we are seeing is what we all hope for, reality. Jon & Kate has never been an especially nicey nice show. The kids scream and hit, Kate berrates and Jon sits passively by. So Jon stopped being passive and took hold of his life and it became extremely public. And still my and most of America's concern is the children. However: they are living as all our children do. with the good , bad and down right assinine. The only difference is they are living it in public and with alot of MONEY.

I hate the show being taped out of order. What a bunch of crap. After last week what a let down. I want to see more of the train wreck.

I can understand why Jon wants out. Kate, you yell at him all the time. He is so good with the children but everything has to be done your way and your way only. You yell at him in public. I watch the show every week and only hope that you both know how precious your children are and how hurt they will be to see you two split up. Get help to save this marrage.

Kate G., the cakes may look like a rainbow threw up, but your show looks like a fertility clinic threw up!

Kate is a selfish control freak. If I treated my husband the way she does he would have been gone years ago. John is so laid back and good with the kids. He should be the one raising them-they would grow to be much better people. Saw a repeat a couple days ago about how Kate never gets out to go shopping-the whole thing was about her and her wardrobe. Give me a break. Who needs to go out and shop when you get your wardrobe delivered to you. Designer at that! Kate needs to figure out what the important things in life are and get real!

So everyone knows when you have company over that we try to be on our best behavior-our husbands suddenly become #1 and our kids are trully wonderful at all times...If we had cameras on us I think it would be the same. Can you imagine how Kate treats John when the cameras aren't rolling? SCARY!!!

I love watching the show and think the kids are adorable. I think that Jon is a great parent and Kate has been hard on him for the last few seasons because the whole world has seen it on tape. I hope that they do get help and save their marraige for the sake of the kids.

I really loved the show,,,,but now im not so sure, I think John should of thought before hanging out with girls other than his wife, come on he has a right to go out but with other women I dont care if didnt cheat or not...its just wrong and he is in the limelight it goes with the territory how stupid was that!!! I feel sorry for the kids

Okay, I just remembered a show on Oprah about a decade ago. It was about families of multiples. The Mom was the nurse, her job higher paying than the spouse. The spouse stayed home w/ the multiples- I think it was 5 kids. Anyway, I just remembered that Kate is a nurse. Gasp, what if she has to go back to work. However, Jon does not like to be the stay at home one. So why doesn't he look for a job? The kids are in school. They have help? If he had a job, he would have a good reason not to be around and it may redeem him a bit in some viewer's eyes. Especially in these economic times. I know that Kate is doing what many women commonly do in her situation. She is trying to show Jon that she can still compete with younger women(on the outside,anyway). Unfortunately, this usually fails unless the couple gets counselling. It is sad to see Kate lamenting that Jon is not around. Now who is she going to voice her frustration too. She's lost her partner and she is groping to reorganize how they normally do things. Team J&K did have a rhythm. Now we get to see the transition of things and the loss of what was. The show does need to refocus on the kids. I think this will be hard, though, because the couch interviews have become strained. It also doesn't help that Kate c/o Jon not being there and Jon's view comments about the situation. This is part of the transition process and unfortunately we get to see it. I still think the editor's are deliberately putting some of this stuff in to attract fans who are tuning in because of the tabloid tales.

I have one kid and it changed the dynamics of my marriage. Too tired for sex. Running to the Drs. office for ear infections that keep you up half the night. You know that tee shirt that you wear to bed after the little one has spit up the medicine all over it. You go to the hairdresser after four months and tell the girl to cut off your hair becuase it too drives you crazy. Then your husband notices that your baby fat is taking longer then your girlfriend who had a baby three months after you and she looks a lot better. Hello throw in seven more kids. Throw onto the mix a husband who still wants to play instead of stepping up and parenting equally because he should be. If he isn't making the bacon anymore thank God there is money coming in from the show. Next time watch and listen to Jon. He goes through the motions of parenting. He snaps at those kids all the time. Listen to him. He is happiest when he can play. Kate is raising Jon too. Call the show Kate plus 9. My husband and I love each other very much. It takes alot of energy after a day with an infant to focus on your marriage. better go my washer just finished and it needs to get in the dyer. I would ask my husband to do it but he is asleep in front of the TV with the remote in his hand.I guess he needs to rest up for something later. At least I 'll have a clean tee shirt on that smells of fabric softener my new fragrance!

I have watched to show from the begining and I think it is great. Without the show you wouldnt be able to take as good of care of them. I think your kids are beautiful and so are you. Your only doing what everyone else would do if they were in your shoes. People who live in glass houses shouldent throw stones at you and your family. You are just being a smart buisness women. I say keep doing what you are doing you are great parents. As far as the cheating thing people are going to talk about you all day.The two of you have to be strong for thoses kids. No matter what the two of you had thoses kids together and you should stay friends. The kids need both of you. So good luck and hold your head high you are good parents and your kids know they are loved.

This whole fiasco has taken off, talk about great marketing. Part of me thinks it was just a ploy to garner more attention for the show, since the ratings were not all that great before this. Think about it, why would all these family members be revealing this information. Even the brother of Jon's supposed girlfriend was quick to reveal information. Why would he do that to his own sister? I could be wrong. Jon could have just moved from one dysfunction relationship to another and this hot mess is real. Either way, poor kids.

I think that we are being had.
I realize that both Jon and Kate are young for such big responsibilities. But when the program started it was all about coping with toddlers, who were darling. Now they are five years old, and not as appealing because they are getting more independent. They get into less really cute situations. Living with eight very young children is something that appeals to viewers. But now that they will be in school one half of a day, and let's face it toddlers are more appealing than five year olds viewership would fall dramatically. But put a dramatic new element into the show and viewers who were beginning to lose interest,like me, will be more likely to stay tuned.

Every day it is a choice on whether John & Kate will choose to love each other. Each day both John & Kate should choose to work out their problems and choose to love one another. It's all about love, trust, respect and communication. That's how my husband and my marriage has made it through 31 years. Everyone thought we would not stay married; however we chose the decisions mentioned above. We also learned to put God first in our marriage. No one or no marriage will ever be perfect. I don't think John or Kate would want another man or woman (i.e stepfather, stepmother) to raise their beautiful children. I'm lifting them up for a wonderful life together.

hello earth to JON , you ARE jon and kate + 8 that IS who you are now, NOT just JON anymore you are over 30 not 20 wake up and grow up! and that fancy car a 16yr old would pick out off the car lot your driving is screamimg HEY LADIES LOOK AT ME! and like kate's b-day,you really not even trying to get back together or you would have been there for her and the kids on her SPECIAL day,..or all this is has been staged for more ratings and attention even tho they were already popular im not sure but would it not be so wonderful for them to get back together on the last episode of the new season! yeah thats what i mean, staged to make a good finalie but if this is for real i do hope and pray they work it out,cause they just re newed their wedding vowels, was that really all for NOTHING,ya wouldnt think so! yet another reason this could be staged,, i am i huge fan of the show if kate book signs near me i will be there!

Every marriage is HARD - everyone has their own issues that's why we have couseling and church to guide us through life. they need to help make their family a whole unity again and stop jumping into another relationship with someone else if that is really what's happening. Marriage and Parenting is HARD WORK.

I'd rather watch something educational or inspiring. But I will read John and Kate's comments on John and Kate +8 anytime. Flipping hilarious!

What happened to Jon and Kate plus 8, Come on, Buy now we can all tell it is about the money, It is very sad, Give up the money, and think of your kids, Kate makes it clear, It is about the money, But maybe they are to far gone, Come on TLC, let them go, Or is it too late, Money has runied them, and the kids. Lost viewer,

I used to really look forward to watching the show. I thought it was amazing how they could work, take care of the children, the house etc. Now I realize that it's really kinda sad. I am afraid that they have lost touch with what is really important - family. When Kate got her tummy done we were all like - Good for you! Then it was hair replacement for Jon. Where do they stop? I do feel that Kate is WAY to hard on Jon. Am I saying that Jon is perfect?! No. I'm just saying that I wouldn't even dream of talking to my husband that way. It's now gone from trying to show America about raising 2 sets of multiples "normal" to let's see what we can do for ourselves. Unfortunately the children are the ones that lost in the shuffle and it doesn't seem like noone notices except the truly "normal" everyday, average family. It truly makes me thankful for my life as crazy as it can be at times. I really feel sad for the whole family and hope that they can realize that they have their priorities messed up before it's too late.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the show.... i really think that Kate is the way she is because she has to be.... How would a home with 8 kids under the age of 9 work if she wasnt a super organized and strict.... As for the way she speaks to her husband.. i tink that she should tone it down and relize she would not want John to talk her that way.... But i think she jus gets crazy stress out and thats the way she deals with it .. and Johns way to deal with it is to be really passive.... i really pray that their marriage is saved and as much as i love the show it might be better if they ended it and worked on their family... Soooooo many falily reality show end in divorce... idk if its the cameras and the pressure of having millions of people watch your life or the sudden dramatic change in thier bank accounts.... I know it must be hard either way... when it comes to the kids.. they are way freakin cute... even crazy maddy.... i think the kids are well mannerd and know their parents love them and well have all sooo many memories with being able to watch the show when they are older and the money the parents have made will only make the lives of the kids better i n the long run... i love the show and the family and what ever happens i know John and Kate will put the kids first...

It's apparent that people only see what they want to see. Jon has fallen out of love with his wife. This is not uncommon. Jon has also made many references to not wanting more than two children and not liking having to stay at home with his kids. So he has eight children and a non-career he resents. This is not rocket science. He is unhappy with himself and blames everyone around him. One day he will wake up and it will be too late. He has sacraficed his children having a normal life for his own selfish reasons. They could have separated, taken a little time away from each other and re-evaluated their relationship. Instead Jon has chosen to leave his wife and probably for a 25 year old. Funny how he hates staying at home and not having a job outside the home yet he never complains on the ski slope about not working??? I believe when the dust settles, viewers will see Kate as the rock.

Dear Kate,
Do not know who is right , but I think you are both amazing . best of luck in gods spirit and guidence for your family.

I have been watching the show since the beginning. I agree Kate sometimes was rude to Jon, aside from the fact, the way Jon has conducted himself in the last few months outweighs any behavior Kate has shown in the past. Jon has had a string of young girls ever since the separation, not seeing his kids for many days at a time, was recently seen in Europe negotiating his new hip "clothing line" with a girlfriend, while Kate is at home still managing the children, the household and all of the responsibility. It must hurt so badly to see him run around with all these women. I can't imagine how awful this must feel. He should have the common decency to honor the vows he took with Kate, and try everything to save their marriage, and when he knows he has done that and is still unable to resolve things, end his marriage first before he starts a new relationship. Jon is very much in the public eye, and the example he is showing the world and his children is really terrible. Hang in there Kate, as your children grow and mature, they will know who had their best interest at heart, and who was really there for them.