Tonight, after we've already learned that Jon and Kate Gosselin have started divorce proceedings, John and Kate Plus Two watched the "big announcement" episode.
Jon says he's clearing the land for the kids to receive a present of "crooked houses" himself because he'll take "any excuse to get on the tractor and knock down trees. It's a man thing."
John: "What I really want is a sit-down mower."
Kate: "It's sad, she looks very lukewarm about it."
John: "She's depressed....Jon just wants to be a dude. Hanging out with the bikers and the truckers, using heavy machinery."
John: "They are at war."
Kate: "So who's right?"
John: "It's a substitute for what they're supposed to be dealing with. They're just focusing their attention on anything like that. Somebody's got to win. That's what I mean about, they're at war. No negotiation. No communication."
Kate: "But that give-and-take is hard in any marriage, isn't it?"
John: "But did you see give-and-take there? She said she'd risk World War III....This is kind of a side thing they're using to get at each other."
Kate: "15 percent off Jon and Kate DVDs....yeowch."
John: "Are the kids wearing Crooked House T-shirts?"
Scene: Jon says that whatever their problems, they're 'there for the kids,' through crooked houses, etc.
Kate S.: "But are they really there for them? Do they think the kids can't tell?"
John: "The problem for her is, wasn't he staying at home with them?"
Kate S.: "I guess she has help. Or maybe she won't be able to travel."
John: "So they get all these free things. Do you think someone could have given them some counseling? What attempts did they make to salvage this marriage?"
Kate: "So do you think whatever he or she has done, that they should try that?"
John: "Certainly it isn't good to fight in front of your kids, and some marriages probably should be ended. But is (ending it) the first thing you do?"
Kate: "Is there any way we can know how much of this was the fame itself, and how much is just two different people?"
John: "I think the fame created a lot of stress. Plus they couldn't deal with their problems in a normal way. How can you be normal when you're stalked by the paparazzi and you're in the tabloids, and in blogs."
Kate S.: "Like this one..."
John: "You wonder how much spanking TLC decided not to show."
Kate S.: "Boy, it's like Enchanted Forest!"
The interviewer points out that Jon and Kate are in different houses, "like a shell game." Kate talks about how Jon won't discuss anything with her.
Kate S.: "TLC is really milking this in an unpleasant way."
Jon talks about how the crooked house guys did delivery and assembly all in one day.
Kate S.: "Could this be more of a commercial?"
Jon says their relationship "is our deal" and that he was too passive. But Kate claims this would have played out had the world been watching or not. They both say they have been dealing with this for 7-8 months. They go to commercial still not saying what they're going to do.
Kate S.: "Oh, this is ridiculous."
John: "It's profoundly sad."
Kate S.:"Yes, it is sad. But I just kind of think it's sick that they're playing it this way for drama. They're participating in it."
John: " I would love to know what the filmmakers think. They've been watching this train wreck in front of them. Do they want to avert their gaze?"
At 9:43, Jon finally says "Kate and I have decided to separate." Kate says she knows it's necessary because her goal is "peace for the kids." She says kids will remain in the house and that she and Jon will share custody and will live in the house during their time with the kids to maintain stability.
Kate: "That's how a lot of people are handing divorce now. I have to respect that arrangement. Then again....this also allows the show to go on."
They start to show scenes from the beginning episodes of the show.
John: "Now the rock video."
And then, indeed, Jon says the show will go on and they'll both be involved. Kate says what worries her the most is how the kids will see they've failed, and they are another statistic. And that she's afraid of being alone.
Kate S.: "Wow. I don't know what to say. How are they going to tell the kids? And are we going to see that?"
John: "Good question. And that'll be a hard one to watch."
Last scene: family goes to brunch on Mother's Day. Kate talks about the way they used to work together on the simplest thing, like walking eight kids into a restaurant in the rain.
John: "He's parked in the handicapped spot."