TLC, NBC, Morales host pity party for Kate Gosselin
TLC and NBC News teamed up to deliver a pity party and Kate Gosselin cry-a-thon all rolled into one Monday night. It was a new low in the pathos and bathos of what has become the greatest reality TV crackup of all time. Kate started crying less than 10 minutes into the hour, and she never turned the tears off until the final credits rolled.
Let me give you the big picture of what was going on first in this NBC News approved and produced hourlong interview of Kate Gosselin by "Today" show correspondent Natalie Morales. TLC paid for a piece of the credibility of NBC News, and here is the trick that the network producers used to try and deliver the goods.
Instead of performing like a journalistic interviewer, Morales played the role of a defense attorney forced to put her client on the stand because there is so much evidence against the client. So, what Morales did in her defense attorney role is time after time state the charges against her client in such a way that Kate could easily refute them. This is beyond asking softball questions. This is a far more sophisticated manuever that undermines and seeks to dismiss the allegations against a client even as the defense attorney states them.
Typical of the back and forth was this exchange with Morales bringing up rumors of Kate having an affair with her bodyguard.
After a voiceover intro that says, "Now, Kate Gosselin is responding to the gossip and innuendo," Morales says: "There have been a lot of rumors about Jon and infidelity. There have been rumors about you and infidelity. And Jon said in past interviews that he suspected first that you were having an affair with your bodyguard. Would you like to set the record straight?"
So, now whatever Kate says is implied to be the truth: She is setting the record straight.
And Kate says, "It is so unthinkable to me that to have to think about it makes me sick...."
Great, now the record is straight. Glad that was cleared up so decisively.
How about her lies about her having only $1,000 and being unable to pay her bills? Or how about her not yet accounting for the money she took from the account? Here's the way "Kate's Story" dealt with that.
MORALES: Let's talk about finances -- Jon tapping into your account, your joint account. Was the money returned in full? What's the status of the money right now?
KATE: "The judge ruled it's all been taken care of. I did everything that I needed to do. I'm the bill payer in the household, and all the money I spent has been spent on family things, mortgage, utility. So, the important thing is it's all figured out for now."
Ok, fine, Kate says it's all figured out and she doesn't want to be any more specific about the money the judge ordered her to account for, and the hard-hitting Natalie Morales leaves it right there. Except Kate's shopping buddy has some more mopping up to do as regards allegations that Kate has not put aside all the money she says she has for the kids.
MORALES: In terms of a separate account for the children, that's secure?
KATE: Secure. Because it's their money, and my goal in all of this is that they have the opportunity to go to college. It is absolutely secure, locked up and safe. I'm very proud of that.
Once again, no specifics, no evidence, no follow-up. We must simply take Kate at her word -- actually Morales' word that the kids money is "secure."
Kate was unbelieavable in all her old and tedious ways. She said again, "I just want peace for my kids."
She said again that she is a "contract honorer," and Jon is not, and that is why TLC is in her judgment righteous in suing him.
And here is Natalie Morales, for the defense, once again: "Some have accused you of using the show as paycheck. This is your income. What do you say?"
Come on, Kate, knock it down. You can do it.
KATE: I've heard accusations that I set out for this reality show as my paycheck and that I wanted to become some huge celebrity, which I laugh about. It has become our primary source of income, but nobody could have predicted that."
Why not? You signed contracts, and TLC gave you money. Even in the first season, it was more than you and Jon ever saw at your other jobs. How could you not see it was your primary source of income?
But that would be my follow-up question. As for Morales, she had already served her role as setting up Kate to refute the accusation.
Here is one of Kate's greatest moments, though, playing the childbirth and mommy cards in the face of one of the most serious charges against her.
MORALES: SO when people ask you, 'Are you exploiting the children, allowing these cameras to come in?' Are you compromising your children in any way by doing that?
KATE: (Pause while Kate gathers herself) Coming from a mom who laid on bedrest from the time I found out I was pregnant, seven-weeks pregnant 'til 30 weeks. And absolutely would not put anything in my mouth that would harm them, and fought for every second of their existence. I can tell you that there is nothing that would ever force me to put them in harm's way."
When Kate plays the "laid on bedrest" card, it is all over but the shouting.
She was more ridiculous and pathetic than ever, but maybe that is just because she was on camera saying crazy stuff longer than ever.
One of my favorite moments came when she became so overcome with emotion that she had to stop altogether and gather herself to deliver this line: "I still wake up every day and I think the phone will ring, and it will be the old Jon."
But later, she said the old Jon was filled with "anger," and they would have broken up anyway even if they never had a reality TV show.
And at another point, she said actually it was her "kids" who say they want the "old Jon" back.
Which is it Kate? And did you ever wake up even one day hoping that angry guy whose breathing you couldn't stand would call?
Or, did you just think people would feel sorry for you if you said it? And you knew you could get away with saying such stuff, because Morales, your defense attorney, wouldn't call you on it?






Comments
Spot on Z and beyond that, NBC and TLC tried to evoke the sympathy card with Kate's tears, I'm certain that they brought on new fans. This interview was as hard hitting as a 6 year old facing a T-ball tournament.
Posted by: kelly | November 2, 2009 11:14 PM
Love how they go to church but uh. uh, not lately. She can load them all up and take them to fun places but church (where the tups would go to the children's area), is unmanageable.
Posted by: Denise | November 2, 2009 11:19 PM
This woman is unbelievable
Posted by: Elena | November 2, 2009 11:19 PM
Z, Thank you for taking one for the team. I never saw the appeal of the show even when they were together, and the prospect of a Kate pity-party and cryfest sounded really uninteresting. Are you sure she wasn't crying because she can't get that mutant hedgehog-possum off her scalp where it has bonded?
Once again, I am very happy I watched Dancing with the Stars. Tonight it was Team Tango vs. Team Paso! With lots and lots of testosterone on display! YUM! Nicely muscled men dancing with no shirts beats a boring tear-fest ANY day.
Posted by: Joy in Virginia | November 2, 2009 11:33 PM
Z, I did not watch. I am so sorry we put you in the middle of this mess.
I just woke up to Showbiz Tonight saying Jon did a unedited side of his story on Sunday night (that is available in full online & that TLC told a completely edited version of the Kate's story.
Anyway, I figured when I saw what the snapshot this morning this was going to be another "poor poor pitiful me fest" that I was just better off staying on the sidelines of a different kind tonight.
I decided to take the high road and for the sake of my children spend time with them. After work we went shopping and the teenage girls took me for a ride (I hate the passengers seat but this time I obliged) to their favorite store American Eagle. We caught an awesome clearance sale and they modeled outfits for me. I am proud of my girls because they looked on the clearance racks. We found shorts for next season $4.95 each, sweatshirts for 17.00. And, moms that know of this store know it is not known for cheap teenage clothing. Then I came home and played with my little guy Trent who is into taking all the couch apart and jumping all around.
Kate thank youfor making me realize I truly have Multiple Ble8sings at arms length. I have a little different outlook than you. I am a wife 1st, a mom until the end, and have great friends from east coast to west coast starting with ones I grew up with, people I work with, people I blog with. Nothing is sweeter than that. Nothing.
Thank you Z for keeping it real, clean and reporting it from the angle of journalistic integrity. It has been so real fun.
Posted by: Irene | November 2, 2009 11:34 PM
Thanks for the recap Z. I wasn't planning on watching those two narcissists anyway.
Sounds like both TLC and NBC struck out.
Posted by: Tami | November 2, 2009 11:34 PM
I don't understand why Kate gets away with saying that she is a "contract honorer", when she clearly didn't even honor her marriage contract.
Kate also didn't honor another deal: that of ending the show if ANY ONE of the family wanted it to end.
She appears to be highly selective in just what word she will keep, regardless of the effect on her own family.
Posted by: Kk | November 2, 2009 11:34 PM
I didn't watch the interview, but it sounds like it went pretty much as every other interview w/Kate goes...soft questions, and no further probing into the answers that Kate gives. I enjoy the Today Show, but they never have Kate sit down with someone who is less than sympathetic to her plight. Poor, poor Kate cried on Meredith's shoulder, and now she's crying on Natalie's shoulder, meanwhile....laughing all the way to the bank at all the people who actually buy her story.
I couldn't care less about what Kate is going through. She put herself in that place by choosing to put her family on TV, publicly emasculate her husband over and over again, shut out friends and family when they were no longer useful or convenient, or when they began telling the truth about what happened in the Gosselin house. Let her live with where she has put herself.
I only care about the kids, and it doesn't seem like much is being done to help them. Recent reports are that neither Jon nor Kate has been with the kids much lately, so all her alleged concern about the kids' well-being loses all credibility when you see how much she is in the road to do various appearances and interviews. Nice try, Kate.
Posted by: Stephanie | November 2, 2009 11:36 PM
It's all about the money. Kate has always exploited the kids for the money and fame. Now they can't go to church because it's too difficult. But she can fly all over the country to sell herself. WOW, remind me never to get rich!
Posted by: pw | November 2, 2009 11:38 PM
Smarmy me would love to have a mic on Natalie and hear what she really thought of Kate and her answers. 'Cause I just have to believe that no intelligent person buys her B.S.
Barbara Walters and the crew from the View fawned all over Kate, but then spoke about how horrible reality TV was and how she should have thought about supporting the kids before she had them afterwords.
Now, if only Lisa Ling had been the interviewer. That would have been TV worth watching!
Is next week's episode Kate Really Really Answers Your Questions? Is that what the Kate show is going to be all about? Kate crying and saying she's doing it all for the kids.
Tell me Z, whose your pick to write the first tell all. My bet is on Mady. And it will be a best-sellar so that Ms. Mady can finally have the financial security that her parents promised her when they sold out her and her brothers and sisters--but never delivered on.
Posted by: Karla | November 2, 2009 11:40 PM
I had read awhile ago that the Gosselins were 'disinvited' from their church. I do not know if such a thing could be true, but it sure would explain Kate not going.
Posted by: Kk | November 2, 2009 11:41 PM
When asked if she wanted Jon back Kate now said the children "want the old Jon back". WTF??? Is she delusional to think her children even think that way? Daddy is daddy is daddy to children. Kate always wants to justify her point of view by stating it's for the children or the children's wants, thoughts and wishes.
Hi Lucy, Yes, I just added updated the review with this statement when she talked about waking up every day hoping the phone will ring and it will be the old jon. Please check it out. It was an absolute lowlight of the hour. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Lucy | November 2, 2009 11:46 PM
Thanks for watching. I watched some Anderson Cooper 360 and a cute clip of an EWOK. Hope your head is intact Z. I caught the very end of the interview with Kate G. after I ran kids around. So I missed most of it.
It was what we all thought I guess a very soft interview where Natalie could not nail Kate down. I did catch above all the noise at my house the part about church. I was shocked she said she could not attend because she would have to take the kids by herself and it would be hard to get them all ready and go with nine instead of ten. What? So it is not important enough to take the kids. I have taken mine by myself or with one or the other. Amazing.
Hi Sherry, I just added some more to the review. Am burned out and heading for bed. Twelve cups of coffee and Kate's madness is too much to bear. Thnanks. Z
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 2, 2009 11:46 PM
Yes, Karla early today Z joked that next weeks episode will be "Kate tells her story and interviews herself"
Z that is what blogger of the day comments are made of. I nominate you Bloggger of the day!
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3 CHEERS FOR Z...Hip hip horray!
Thanks for the kindness. I am crawling off to bed with my mind totally bent by an hour of Kate's code talk and Morales' defense attorney act. Z
Posted by: Irene | November 2, 2009 11:51 PM
Kk, actually Glad Tidings issued a statement to clear that rumour up.
Our church has been in the eye of the media recently due to the fame and notoriety of some members of our church family. In response to that media attention, we want to clearly state that our vision as a church is to help people become fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ. Therefore we welcome everyone and would never refuse anyone the opportunity to worship with us. In addition we respect and protect the privacy of our church family. Therefore, we do not comment or respond to any questions about members of our church family.
Posted by: Denise | November 2, 2009 11:54 PM
Thanks for watching for us z! Sorry I couldn't get the Krispy Kreme's to you tonight.
So you guys please tell me what was the point of this "show"?
Hi, I could have used a couple of Krispy Kreme's with the 12 cups of coffee. I ate most of a bag of those phony fried vegetable sticks to have some instant pleasure as I watched this wrecthed excuse for a "special" TV show. And I feel like I want to go out and run four miles. But it's midnight in baltimore and running the city streets is not advised. ha. Z
Posted by: xsandlapper | November 2, 2009 11:56 PM
Oh by the way Kate. I have a 2 year old. I know accounts had been set up for the kids for college. I bought one for my guy. Total cost for MPACT: $16,000 over 10 years and Trent gets a good start on his college education. I know yours is X 8 but what you had to contribute to give your kids that is about 120,000ish ballpark. 2 average episodes and VIOLA college funds. We'll see....sooner or later I hear a paid episode in my mind Kate: her story I had to tap into those accounts for the sake of my kids. They can pay for their own college education.
Sherry T & fellow bloggers sounds like the defended defended the defenseless tonight.
Kate goodnight sleep tight do not let doing the right thing bite!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Irene | November 2, 2009 11:57 PM
So with the defense attorney position, TLC got what they wanted. Let's hope NBC does not do any more J&K, because it is making them look less and less like a news program. I watch NBC Today Show and the news is a pretty small segment these days. It is more entertainment. EWOKs took over the Today Show according to Anderson Cooper.
Yes, bought and paid for. Z
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 2, 2009 11:58 PM
Kate is a microcosm for everything that's wrong with America right now: fame at any cost, dishonesty, greed, and using the most innocent of humans (children) to cover up your fame bloodlust. My wife came up with a great name for people with notoriety but no real talent: "Notards".
Kate has never admitted to liking being in the spotlight - and anyone that won't admit that can't be trusted. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: Alex | November 3, 2009 12:00 AM
Z - excellent job! It's good to get a real journalist's analysis of that faux interview, and I appreciate your integrity.
I didn't watch, but an hour of tears must've been quite a juxtaposition to her walk of smiles for the paps after/during the interview. She sure can switch gears fast.
Posted by: tearsandsmiles | November 3, 2009 12:01 AM
I keep watching hoping to learn something new, but no such luck. It's the same old, tired interview questions, and the same old, tired, interview answers. All that seems to change is the set, the interviewer, and perhaps Kate's outfit. She is not a star, and has no talent. All she did was give birth to children, as many of us have. Honestly, when is enough going to be enough?
Posted by: Robyn | November 3, 2009 12:02 AM
I like Kate and think she is a strong woman. I think she will need to be strong for her kids. The ninth child will not be raising or supporting them. He will be with the 20's something girls. Good luck to Kate and her kids.
Posted by: marge | November 3, 2009 12:03 AM
Did anyone else hear the story about Jon purposely having Hailey Glassman say bad things about him? They did it because it would give them more time in the spotlight - they both get paid to be on the Insider, and it would create more drama. I don't know which of these two are worse - but I so despise Kate that I'd have to say it would be her . . .
They are both awfuil, self-absorbed people. But did you hear Kate tonight say she is "selfless," when the "self-absorbed" charge was brought up by her defense attorney Morales? But you are right, Jon is pathetic. But he is not as patholoigical in his lying and narcissism as Kate. Thanks. Z
Posted by: alex | November 3, 2009 12:04 AM
Z,
Get a good night's rest. The caffiene should wear off overnight and you will be back to normal tomorrow. Thanks for watching for all the team. Good review and I will check out the other part, it is 12:09 here and I am exhausted after a day of running. Going to bed too! :)
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 12:11 AM
I really agree with your insight that Natalie set Kate up like a great defense attorney, always allowing her to " set the record straight." However, I picked up on one small, but telling slip when Ms. Morales showed a tabloid and Kate stated she didn't ask for that kind of attention, but Morales did follow up and offered that paarticipating in a reality show DID invite that scrutiny. Kate replied " That's just harsh." flashing hard angry eyes. In fact, I saw a very overly, poorly. made-up woman who looked lumpy and dumpy who is seething with anger because she is watching her fantasy melt away.
Hi Patti, I agree. There were a few slip-ups like that, and Kate looked nasty and angry. She would get defensive, and Morales would quickly retreat. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Patti | November 3, 2009 12:12 AM
Thank you Z - I understand your battle fatigue. You're a real trooper. Looks like we can all hang out our shingle as psychics. Sounds like we predicted correctly.
I might have to catch the interview in small parts (for discussion purposes only) somewhere tomorrow. God knows it'll be all over the internet like a nasty virus.
Posted by: Chrysee | November 3, 2009 12:36 AM
Oh Z, thank you SO much for taking one for the team!!!
I DVR'd the disaster & haven't watched all of it yet, but I did watch about 15 minutes or so.
Here's a mind bender kids. Kate says she "still wakes up every morning waiting for a phone call and the old Jon will come back" (she said this twice, once saying it for herself, then "correcting" herself saying that's what her kids say). She has said this many, many times...she wants the old Jon back.
OK. Fine. Just moments before she said that, Natalie asked what brought about the decline of the marriage; was it the stress of having 8 kids, was it financial, was it because Kate is a bigger star than Jon (*gag*) and was it Kates response? She says that had it not been for the show, she thinks her marriage would have ended sooner rather than later. Huh?? A liar says what?
Which is it Kate? You want the "old Jon" back (we all know she means the old whipping post Jon) and your marriage only ended because Jon went off the rails on the crazy train OR your marriage would have ended either way...that it was destined to fail??
If I as a viewer can see that & question it, then why can't Natalie Morales or anyone else that has interviewed her? Both of those statements were made within 5-10 minutes of each other, not days or weeks.
I honestly don't know how you made it through this Z...I really don't.
Posted by: Holly | November 3, 2009 12:38 AM
Kate is so clueless. She's in the tabloids because she has a reality show? Get a grip. She is in the tabloids because of how delusional she is! There are other 'reality shows' where the people in them aren't on the front covers of all the tabloids! Pity Party is correct and I have no pity.
Posted by: junieb | November 3, 2009 12:41 AM
Z:
Great insights; I knew I could come here and read an intelligent take on the interview.
Kate spoke about her family in much the same way she spoke of the dogs. Her family might be allowed back in at some point. I’m thoroughly convinced now that she has some kind of psychological disorder going on.
I didn't learn one thing new. It was just a regurgitation of her previous, always vague, verbal articulations.
Posted by: Donna | November 3, 2009 12:46 AM
...ooohhhh... I would have liked to have seen the angry eyes when she was asked a few choice questions..too bad Morales backed off...not to great for her journalistic reputation...
One thing that always seems to be forgotten and never asked.... I am certain that when the "tups" were born, the State of Pennsylvania gave them paid for tuitions.. if so, why then is kate sooo worried about their college funds? Perhaps there isn't one?? who knows.. A question I want to ask...
Posted by: Meagler | November 3, 2009 1:05 AM
Just trying to catch up on deciphering Katespeak. Now during the 127th stop of Kate's Pity Party 2009 Tour, didn't she mention something about 'certain ones of them choose to speak a lot while others of them choose to keep quiet'?* Is that contract honorer/high road taker* the former??
*Hideous grammar courtesy of certain ones of them i.e. Kate Gosselin.
Posted by: me | November 3, 2009 1:12 AM
Kate is nuts. She can take trips without Jon, she can travel the country for work without Jon, but she can't go to church? And would someone please tell her that she is the first nor the last to be put on bedrest during pregnancy. That line is getting real old. And I think if I hear one more "it's all for the kids" line, I might throw up.
Posted by: linda | November 3, 2009 1:16 AM
Just wanted to check in and say thanks to you Z, for watching and staying up to post your review. I, and I’m sure others, stayed up to see what you had to say because there is so little honesty to be found in this Gosselin fiasco. We need to know there is a journalist out there with integrity. Your take as Natalie as defense attorney was right on.
Before I say more, I have to say to Joy in Virginia, I have often seen Kate’s hairdo referred to using the word possum, but yours was the first description I’ve read of a “mutant hedgehog-possum” on top of her scalp “where it has bonded.” I read that twice and the second time a squirt of wine involuntarily escaped my mouth and landed on my keyboard and I’m finding tiny droplets on many of the keys right now as I type. Many thanks for the laugh.
Kate made sure in the very beginning of the interview, when Natalie asked her to describe her childhood, to mention that she was the “neglected middle child.” I guess we’re supposed to forgive her all her lies and deceptions and exploiting the children because of that. Interesting way to start the interview.
Kate’s explanation as to why her parents were no longer involved in her life was because she discovered after the tups were born that "people had opinions that were not her opinions.” Unfortunately, Morales didn’t follow through, so that was all that was said. So I guess we can assume, with Kate, it’s my way or the highway? Imagine that!! Who cares if the kids never see their grandparents.
My two dogs and I were all snuggled together on the sofa when Kate said the most important thing she’s learned is she cannot control the past, present or future, as she sat there in total spin-mode trying to…um, control the past, present and future with her BS. I yelled at the TV and scared my pups. I want to publicly apologize to my dogs for waking them up and scaring them.
When Morales mentioned that she’s been accused of being selfish, Kate explained, that, no, she’s being selfLESS. And she insists she’s with her children the “majority” of the time, whatever that means. Delusional.
She also said when she’s at the grocery store with the kids (which she said isn’t often), if they come across a nasty tabloid with her pic on the front, she goes and turns every one of the magazines over so the cover no longer shows and then tells the kids it’s all better now. Why would she draw such extreme attention to the tabloids with her kids there? The little ones wouldn’t even be able to read the headlines, right, so why not ignore them altogether. She’s so sick. Even the bad publicity has to be acknowledged and to her kids!!
The only real thing I saw during the interview was, at one point, Kate’s nose was running during a mini-sobfest, and she swiped the snot onto her cheek. That’s the most “real” thing I’ve ever seen from Kate.
Hi Aly, It sounds like you watch Tv the same way I do -- with dogs and sometimes shouting at the screen. Made me smile. Z
Posted by: Aly | November 3, 2009 1:17 AM
Z, thank you so much for enduring this blood-boiling, frustrating nonsense and reporting back. Your defense attorney analogy clearly helped me visualize the whole dynamic of the "interview". I am so grateful to you for freeing me from having to watch.
I think this is all so pathetic. I do so wish that someone would do some in-depth investigating and bring out all the ugly truths behind these people and everyone involved with TLC and their connections. I suspect that it is not being done because serious-minded news outlets and investigative journalists may feel that this story is beneath them - that it is too tabloid to waste their time on. But nothing could be further from the truth.
This is why I respect you so much. You completely understand that the Gosselin saga goes far beyond just fluff entertainment. It involves questions about some extremely basic journalistic tenets of objectivity and watchdog abilities. It involves society's responsibility to protect its most innocent members from being preyed upon for money. It involves so many different ethical questions that I can't begin to list them all. It involves the very scary scenario that the news and information given us is being bought and paid for, and is thus skewed to something that isn't close to resembling the truth.
Everyone should be scared of these things and the fact that the "truths" we hear are filtered through some entity with a certain agenda.
Z, keep fighting the good fight. Many thanks. Get some sleep.
Posted by: AnnC | November 3, 2009 1:20 AM
Kk, regarding your comment: Kate also didn't honor another deal: that of ending the show if ANY ONE of the family wanted it to end. , excellent point. So she's not such a contract honoror after all. She did mention during the interview that she's a "rule-follower." Maybe we can start a Dictionary According to Kate.
Posted by: Aly | November 3, 2009 1:21 AM
Really, "the old Jon?" Who talks like that? Not kids anyway. As a child when my parents got divorced I NEVER once said, "Gee, I want my OLD Dad back." It seems to me that Katie Irene made that little scenario up. The woman seems to lie as easily as she breathes. I wonder if "her kids" ever say they want "the old Kate" back when she is off performing for the talk shows and magazine interviewers. Doubt it. It seems like they always had more fun with their dad, and most likely they get more attention from the nannies than they ever did from Kate (at least when the cameras weren't rolling).
Posted by: Dee | November 3, 2009 1:27 AM
I notice that when Ms. Morales would ask Kate a question, Kate wouldn't look her in the eye. Her eyes keep looking to the right, indicates to me she is lying.
Any way, hope the show is cancelled and the kids get somewhat of a normal life.
Jon and Kate are money hungry. They care more about the Money than their children. Intensive therapy for them all !!!
Posted by: Abby | November 3, 2009 1:31 AM
I remember that sometime in Aug. 2009, there was once again, a very strong focus in blogs and some tabs regarding the kids money. This is when Kate 1st announced that she had independently set up these funds that week and that she had put away $80,000. Does anyone else remember this happening?Even though the focus on her duplicitous lies regarding college fund money had never really went away, the questions resurfaced in a big way in Aug. and she then made that public statement. I sure wish Morales had asked her for an explanation of why she was still grifting at the church events and lying about "having no money for the
college funds". She persisted in telling this lie even after the Philly mag piece exposed the fact that some official of PA had set up TAP funds for the tups on their 1st B-day. Eighty Thousand for 8 kids is not much. Kate has no reason to be proud of herself. Thanks so much to all the bloggers here and to Z, who has not been afraid to tell all of the truth. All of you here, lift my spirits. Thanks.
Posted by: Nancy | November 3, 2009 1:38 AM
I just read a review of the interview at EW.com. I wasn't familiar with them. It's a good review, and what caught my eye was:
Meanwhile, backstage, Kate was busy trying out some new gray eye-liner that made her look as though she’d rubbed the ashes of her burned-out soul onto her eyelids.
Heavy, eh? I liked it! You won't find that on the TLC list of preferred reading such as ROL.
Here's the link:
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/11/02/kate-her-story-kate-gosselin/
The only thing I disagreed with is EW said Kate showed a flash of anger once. That reminded me of one other time. Morales actually said something along the lines of divorce is hard, some people chose to fight and you quit, you failed. Kate seemed very taken aback. So Natalie gets one measly point for being hard hitting.
Yes, I agree about that flash of anger. I think I mentioned it last night somewhere in comments. But I think Morales gave her the question again as a defense attorney, so that Kate could counter it or slap it down by saying she tried or she wanted to try and make it work, but Jon somehow made it impossible. But all Kate heard was "quit," and started to go off. She caught herself, but the statement about not being a quitter came out with some of her real anger. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Aly | November 3, 2009 1:55 AM
Didn't you love the part where Kate emotes great sadness and tells Morales that all of the children miss all the trips and that she does too! Well, newsflash Kate, take them to the Statue of Liberty or where ever you like on your own dime. Since making those memories is always one of your talking points--don't stop now.
I just saw the episode on organizing the basement on Hulu and I found it very very upsetting to see Hannah interacting so aggressively and with great meaness to that boy who was a guest. I was truely shocked to see that overt nastiness and refusal to share. She was a big bully. Why was there no adult to intervene and correct her behavior. I also wish that someone would ask Kate why it is that since she wants the very best for her children, that she refuses to get them all into play and talk therapy with a child psychologist? Selfish to the bone.
Posted by: Nancy | November 3, 2009 1:56 AM
Z. Thanks for enduring all that garbage. I wish the aliens would come take Kate back!!
Posted by: Megan | November 3, 2009 1:56 AM
I used to like Kate, but the more garbage that comes out of her mouth the more I dislike her. My question is this: If both Jon and Kate are doing everything for their kids, why aren't at least one of them home WITH the kids?? These children have had their lives turned upside down with this divorce and now when they need their parents to be around they are being raised by a nanny with one parent on one coast and the other on the opposite coast. I can't help but think that they would feel very abandoned by both parents, and if they don't now they will in the future. All of this for a reality show? Give me a break!
Posted by: Serena | November 3, 2009 2:03 AM
My money is on Mady, too, for the REAL story! She's too impulsive to hold back and lie. Kate, on the otherhand,what a piece of work. Selfless??? When? As an RN, Kate would be one of the last people I would like to work with because I don't believe she knows what hard work or selflessness is all about. Believe me, The thought of actually having to use her nursing license probably scares the crap out of her. And as a patient, it would really scare me--an angry, lying, self absorbed, passive aggressive bitch. eewww---Nurse Ratchett--help!!!
Posted by: Pat | November 3, 2009 2:48 AM
...I browsed the interview show, Kate sounds like she is writing a cliche filled country song, but, in reality, she never answers the questions. She rambles, vaguely repeating the words Nat speaks, icy eyes glazed over with daylight balanced light. SHe is weird, soon to be on Dr Drew's rehab shows.
... Poor kids.
Edited for language....Z
Posted by: Mr. Agent Black | November 3, 2009 3:04 AM
Jon and Kate--you've milked this for all it's worth. It's time to move on and pay attention to your kids. They're just starting school and need some serious parenting.
Posted by: Amber | November 3, 2009 3:25 AM
Most interesting to me was Kate's line about only having six people in her life that she trusts, and she included in that number her bodyguard, Steve Nield, his wife and two sons. So, apart from her paid employee and his family, she has exactly two other people who are close to her. Wow, do people have her number or what! Very telling.
Yes, that is kind of stunning when you do the math. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Vicky Simpson | November 3, 2009 3:30 AM
I think the truth Kate tries so hard to hide is that staying home and being a mother to eight children is the last thing she wants. TLC gave her a way out of that hard work. She tried to get Jon to be the stay-at-home parent while she went off on her appearances, but he didn't want that pushed off on him either. The truth is neither Kate nor Jon have any interest in being closely involved parents to eight kids.
Everything else talked about in these interviews is a diversion to hide the ugly truth! Kate, in particular, wants to keep all of the drama and diversions going so that she won't have to go home and be real.
Posted by: Peg | November 3, 2009 4:21 AM
Does anyone think that Jon has a fairly low IQ?? Sorry, buddy but you're dumb and are going to be outmaneuvered by Kate.
Whether Kate is full of it or not, she is the smarter one and is going to do what she needs to keep her kids and support them.
Posted by: Jessica | November 3, 2009 4:40 AM
After reading excerpts from the interview, I don't have much to say except Ho hum, Kate's irrational suspicions and other well-documented irrationalities are getting old. She admits on her own website that she rushed Jon into having children. She's a troublemaker.
Posted by: O. Logic | November 3, 2009 4:55 AM
Z,
I tuned in for a few minutes at the beginning and then at one point in the middle. But every time I changed the channel to something else, I felt shameful and dirty for watching this charade! Bless you for having the endurance to watch straight through.
I wouldn't be surprised if Natalie Morales drew the shortest straw and was pushed into doing this. If that's the case, I really feel sorry for her. But if she is that weak of a journalist and naturally that soft on Kate, then she should hang her head in shame.
Jon is just as horrible as Kate, but he is still ten percent human. I don't know why almost every interview he does has to have him being attacked yet Kate is allowed to operate in this bubble.
Also, Natalie's silence after some of the ridiculous responses was mind-boggling. No follow-up, no different angle, no pressing sweet Kate. Really, no question was off limits and this is what you come up with? When Kate talked about Kevin in the beginning, why no mention of the initial rumored disagreement between them? Why no question about Jodi and Kevin's message having some grain of truth? I was on my high school newspaper staff, and we asked harder hitting questions about the golf team!
But I think they have used up their limited bag of tricks. It was funny when Kate acted as though there MIGHT, just perhaps, be a TLC show with just her...as though the TLC engines aren't already firing away at that. But there's nothing left, Kate. We get it already. You're a contract honorer, you miss that old Jon that the Old Kate whipped mercilessly and sent into a bar-hopping crisis, you lie awake at night, the thought of Steve sickens and repulses you (but not enough to request a different bodyguard), your children are a-okay, and you can't trust anyone. Let the record show that Kate is a martyr, and NBC has gone through great lengths to verify this. But it ain't cute anymore, Kate, and as a matter of fact, it never was.
Posted by: Kevin | November 3, 2009 5:37 AM
Didn't watch but would like some other network to take any of these interviews and get answers to all the questions Kate didn't answer, her talking points really need investigating.
Posted by: joanne | November 3, 2009 5:59 AM
BINGO anyone? I have my card filled up.
B: Boring.
I: Insensitive.
N: Narcissistic.
G: Grating.
O: Obtuse.
You can fill in you own exciting words. Congratulations another softball interview from Kate Gosselin courtesy of Natalie Morales.
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 6:29 AM
Z- wonderful recap. I am relieved to know that not all media buy this woman's nonsense. She sounded as self-centered and delusional as always, but she looked worse than usual. Her overly made--up face and weirdly lumpy body stuffed into that tight dress. Geez, this act isn't working for you Kate
Posted by: cathy518 | November 3, 2009 6:36 AM
Hey Z I just started reading your coloum and really appreciate your honest work. And I really hope that some how this women is not able to land any kind of TV or reality show of any kind. I could not believe when she said it was too much to take the kids and herself to church. Now if that does not show what kind of person and liar this women is then the people that buy into her are as useless as she is honestly! Can you tell what the ratings were for the "pity party" as you so perfectly called it I would like to know how many did not watch. Thanks and I will keep on reading your blogs.
Yes, on ratings as soon as I can get them. And I am glad to have onboard here at Z on TV. Thanks. Z
Posted by: jerilee | November 3, 2009 6:37 AM
Thank you for the summary - I stopped watching this show a long time ago, in the hopes the fall in viewership would help get these poor children off the TV.
I have to wonder though - has Kate ever ONCE taken any responsibility in the failure of her marriage? Every interview I've seen or read seems she seems to place the blame solely on Jon. Did she do any differently last night?
Posted by: Megan | November 3, 2009 7:03 AM
I believe Kate told Vanity Fair she couldn't go to church any longer because she was "too famous." Now she says it's because she just can't face it without Jon. I call Bullsh**!!
Personally, I believe she drops churches when they no longer pass the basket of love offerings for her. Until now, all of her past churches (3, I believe) took up collections for her family. Now she is expected to actually donate some of her money back to the church and I don't think she wants to part with any of it. In her mind, that's just not how it's supposed to work, ya know.
And Kate.. Shame on you! My daughter is making over $100k this year as a nurse, so what's your problem?
Natalie Morales, was it worth it? How much of this was left on the cutting room floor? No more Today Show for me. You have officially jumped the shark.
Posted by: Free the Gosselin 8 | November 3, 2009 7:05 AM
Hey Z, could you ask NBC why the backdrop for Kate's story was in LA, not PA? Well yes, we know Kate and we can assume she insisted on it being someplace warm, expensive and far from her kids, and no doubt Natalie and crew enjoyed this free perk too, but for credibility sake, even PR sake, why fly everybody to LA for this interview when all parties are based in and around New York? And could you also ask for a follow up question on why Kate needs a body guard but she feels it safe during a swine flu pandemic to ditch her 8 kids on 1 babysitter and take herself to the opposite end of the country for no reason other than being addicted to spas?
Hi Joanne, Great question. Thanks. Z
Posted by: joanne | November 3, 2009 7:06 AM
I really liked your defense attorney theory. I knew the interview was different but couldn't put my finger on how it was different until I read your blog. Nontheless, Morales made it really easy for Kate to squirm out of any "toughish" questions. Why no follow up questions from her? Choosing to eliminate her parents from her childrens' lives is a pretty drastic measure and how could that be for the good of the children? Why wouldn't Morales really hone in on the reasons for that instead of accepting Kate's bland answer. Plus Morales missed one of the most important reasons to stop the filming and that is the fact that while the actual event of filming may not be harmful to the children, the aftermath is and has been. How can you show a child throwing a tantrum and being ugly to the whole viewing world and then send them to school to deal with their peers who probably saw it too. My daughter would be angry and mortified if I did that to her. Also this thing about the "path" Kate has chosen for their income - aarrggh!!! If I go on a trip and find that my "path" is blocked by downed live wires and other dangerous elements I would choose a new "path". Why didn't Morales push her further on this BSish "path" theory. It needs to be a prosecuting attorney questioning her and not a defense attorney. Love your blog and your bloggers!
Posted by: Joannadanna | November 3, 2009 7:07 AM
Thanks for watching for us Z.
A few things . . . when Kate says she wishes she had the "old Jon back." Well, we know that' s a LIE. If you've watched the past shows at all, you know she didn't like the old Jon any better than the new.
She should have followed her own recommendation on the Ellen show: "Some of us just need to shut up." Kate needs to shut up. This interview in my opinion is disastrous to her "career." She obviously can't handle life in the public eye. She's very thin skinned and fragile. You can't say in one interview that you want a career in movies or in front of the camera and then cry for an hour about how hard it is to be in the public eye.
Regarding her "high road for the sake of the kids." Please Kate, do you really think talking about their dad that way on television is going to go over well with your kids later? I'd hate to see if you ever get down and dirty. You might create a new level of low.
What was the point of this interview again?
Please . . . let's just all be glad it's over with.
Amen, Marie. Z
Posted by: Marie | November 3, 2009 7:21 AM
I wasn't going to watch "Kate the Great", but since there was nothing else on TV to watch, I thought I would tune in for some comic relief. I liked when Natalie asked Kate if she still goes to church. What kind of answer was that Kate? Everyone knows that church is a relief when you are going through hard times! And it's not like Kate would have the 8 kids to deal with herself, since they would be going to Sunday school while she went her separate way. It was just one of Kate's pathetic excuses, plus she wouldn't get "paid" to go to church, Kate would actually(GASP!) have to put her own money in the offering plate! Also, when Kate said her kids missed the trips, who's fault is that? Kate is the parent, and can't she, like tens of millions of other parents, take them on trips, but of course here again, Kate would have to shell out her own money. Plus there would not be a camera crew along filming their every move. I'm sure it would probably be the best vacation they ever had! I can't believe anyone would feel sorry for this pathetic woman! And when is Kate ever home to be a mother, since she has been on just about every talk show and seminar circuit for the last couple of months! Please just go away!
Posted by: Kim | November 3, 2009 7:29 AM
I didn't see this as a pity party. Sure she started to tear up during the interview but it was because the personal relationship questions asked got to her. She wasn't crying bucketfuls it more just a tear up. And while I don't quite understand why the hourlong interview for her, she spoke the truth. One interesting point was she said there were no papz around the first 4 years of the show. They showed up when a storyline showed up that they liked.
Hi, Thanks for your comment. Yes, that is her argument: Blame everything on the photographers who showed up. But why did they show up? They showed up because the real life of Jon & Kate was so odds at the phony TV image. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Tulles | November 3, 2009 7:30 AM
So, in essence Kate who was put on the witness stand had an hourlong chance to indict herself in the court of public opinion with I do it for my kids defense.
Kate Gosselin basically admitted she is bought and paid for courtesy of TLC if I follow this correctly.
EX:
1) She honors the TLC contract but null and voids the marriage contract with Jon because the marriage is not fulfilling her goals.
2) She goes to the press with her side that TLC lets her tell, tabloids included. Last time I checked People magazine was a tabloid, however soft of a tabloid, it is it is gossip magazine. But states others cant be trusted they sell her out.
3) She allows TLC to release a statement in 2008 that the show has provided this mother with a chance to stay home and raise her children. When in fact, TLC sent her on the road to represent the brand while an ill prepared husband was hulled up in the home with the staff and kids.
4) She put the brand that TLC made her and defends it to the hilt when there are 8 kids, who had no say in doing a reality show, are at home suffering the consequences.
5) You have a journalist, dressed up as a defense attorney, letting her sit there and put her foot in her mouth.
Gosh darn I could go on for hours.
This juror is going to ruin it all for you Kate. You are guilty as charged. Why not just get in your old tshirts and sweatpants & admit it. This was all for you, all about you, and all about the brand.
Forget if your children suffer, forget if the paparazzi follow you all the way to the bank, as long as you have a show....that is all that matters.
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 7:32 AM
I do feel that the paps follow them because of what Jon did or is doing rather than what Kate does. She does errands and works and he is having his pre mid life crisis in front of the public.
No one in their right mind would defend Jon. And once he started dating twentysomethings, the tabloids really went nuts. Buit they were there before as the portrait of this TV family started to crack apart before our eyes. But you are right about Jon's reckless actions throwing gasoline on the fire. Z
Posted by: Maureen | November 3, 2009 7:52 AM
Kate Gosselin, "When I think of the show Jon & Kate plus 8 it is fond memories, sad goodbyes."
Do people write this crap for her to say. Geez Louise! You know Kate last night while I was blogging I asked my 3 teenage girls if they remember a trip we took to Stone Mountain Ga when they were in kindergarten. Guess what Kate? The answer is no.
Heck I dont remember what I did when I was 5. But I realize now I remember this. I remember relatives and friends & them being there for me. I remember holidays with traditions that I have passed on to my kids.
Go home Kate before you have to one day get on national tv and say, "Mirror mirror on the wall I am my parents after all."
Geez Louise, indeed, Irene. I agree. !Z
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 7:56 AM
I think the best part of the interview was Kate saying that she is up in the middle of the night wondering if she is making the right decisions (or something to that effect). That is the first thing that she has said in a long time that leads me to believe that maybe she does have some ability to be honest with her self. If she were really so sure of herself and the decisions that she were making, she would not be having difficulty sleeping at night. It's too bad she isn't listening to that other voice that she hears in the middle of the night that is telling her the truth.
Posted by: Geoff | November 3, 2009 8:01 AM
Marge, (12:03 am)
Please explain exactly why you think Kate is a strong women. it sounds like you admire her her. Can you please tell me why? I keep asking this question, but I cannot seem to get an answer. Perhaps you have one.
Posted by: heather | November 3, 2009 8:03 AM
... Pick Pick Pick. Jon is a dud and Kate had to tell him when to wipe his butt. Aww Did that affect his manhood? So be it. Man up and be a man Jon, you are so much like so many young men nowadays. You can have the fun of making them but when push comes to shove it's always the woman stuck with the responsibility of raising the children. Boo hoo you had to stay home for a couple of weeks and take care of the kids. ... Can't handle it can you? ...Go find another teenager to boink.
Edited for language. Z
Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2009 8:05 AM
I didn’t watch it, but based on what the viewers are saying, she is telling lies and BS stories as usual. She always claimed she is taking the high road. But this stinks so bad, she has stooped so low on the pole just to repeat her tales and dish on her family’s private matters. This is after three photo spreads for People Magazine this year, countless TV interviews (I lost count), bringing up the Jon topic on the View (such bad taste), dropping off the children at 7 am in heels, low-cut shirts, hair all coiffed up and full make-up. She knew the cameras would be there so she must put her face and pet that rat rag hair of hers instead of ‘focusing’ on her children to get ready for school. I hear it is the nanny who does that instead so Kate can go off and exercise for one and half hours. Does that say ‘my focus is on the children’? I think not.
One thing that stuck me as hypercritic is her lack of logic in explaining why the show must go on. It gave this family ‘fun’ oppornities, vacations and the peaks that come with a TV salary. How is that the children had fun when she didn’t allow them to behave like children and do normal childhood things? I very distinctly remember they were not allowed to get dirty, roll down the grassy hill or draw with markers at the Crayola Factory. I thought that was horrible and embarrassing for the children. They are washable, for peter’s sake. They had to keep their clothes clean all the time. What for? So she could consign them just to make more money. I would have given them to charity, which is what I do anyway. A hot-balloon ride is NOT your normal ordinary fun childhood. I will bet that she doesn’t sit down with her children for structured playtime, have tea parties with the girls, play house, throw a ball, teach them how to roller skate (that would be passed to someone else instead because she just can’t do it herself). They are just her china dolls, her props to get the bills paid and be neither a working mother or stay at home mother. She is neither one so I don’t know what definition she fits in.
Why does she think her family’s life will pay the bills? That is just cruel and unfair to the children as they have no privacy now and they have no voice in saying no to having a scripted life. She even turned her pregnancy and the aftermath into a book for profit. Same thing for personal pictures of the children that she claimed was a personal scrapbook for them—that is the picture book she went on tour for, my dear. I don’t see why that the steeple doesn’t get that.
Posted by: LB | November 3, 2009 8:12 AM
You didn't have to watch it it is all over the internet this morning. The media that I have glanced at is not really returning that "kate brand ball" back in a very positive light.
Kate, you know I gotta hand it to you. After all this you still want to stay in the limelight. You really cemented that fact in with your willing bought TV journalist at your side.
Z, what are her chances of keeping her brand alive? What is she if she isnt the Little old Lady who lives in a Shoe?
UGH~~~
I said it Natale Morales I did not know you before this and I will not be knowing you in the future if I can help it.
Hi Irene, I do not think Kate is going away tomorrow. That's for sure. A lot wioll depend on whether or not TLC can braek Jon with the lawsuit and essentially force him to let them make the show. It is quite clear Kate cannot succeed in any other format. TLC might give her a show, but she has no talent, and as you saw last night, the answers are getting old -- and soon there will be no one safe who hasn't interviewed her. Z
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 8:15 AM
Here's a thought for you conspiracy theorists out there. When Jon went before the public in the NY synagogue to give his "confession" with his "spiritual advisor" rabbi, did you realize that that same rabbi is the one who just a few years back had his own show on TLC? It was called Shalom in the Home.
,i> So, you are thinking the rabbi might lead Jon back along the path to TLC? In reality TV nothing is out of the question. And this rabbi is a real piece of work in his show-biz right. I did not know about "Shalom in the Home." Thanks. Z
Posted by: John | November 3, 2009 8:19 AM
After showing clips of her raging and screaming at Jon for being such and idiot in everything he ever did Kate was asked if she regretted it or if it contributed..forget the specifics?...but she answered(I'm paraphrasing) "I absolutely know I was too hard on Jon ( so far no apology from her) but did it because I felt like all the burden was on me. ME - Kate's favorite word. Sorry- Kate's least favorite word.
I consider myself a very caring, generous, empathetic person but I found it disturbing that I felt no pity or sadness for Kate while watching last night.
Posted by: Rachel | November 3, 2009 8:28 AM
Z please get laurens post at 2:21 am off this blog.
You know Lauren we totally understand how you feel. But, I want the Gosselin children to one day look at this blog possibly and know we were civil about this and had their best interests at heart.
2 Wrongs do not make a right. And, we just do not talk like that on this blog.
Hi Irene, Thank you so much for alerting me to that. You did us all a favor. With this many comments, one like that can slip though, and it helps if keen-eyed readers give me a fast holler. Civility absolutely matters. Tahnks again. It is gone. Z
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 8:32 AM
"I'm a rule follower."
"I'm a contract honorer."
Good GOD, what normal person talks like this ?
And by the way K8, no you're not and no you're not, you stupid biatch.
And Marge (12:03 am), get some rest, you obviously need it.
Posted by: HATEKATE | November 3, 2009 8:32 AM
Wow - Z, this sounds even more painful than I expected! Hope you didn't have too many nightmares...
The church answer is ridiculous. If the children can get to the bus stop while it's still dark outside, they can get to church. It's not about matching outfits and being perfectly coiffed. Kate is only with the children about 2 Sundays a month (on a good month). What is her excuse about the other Sundays? I would never normally question someone's church-going habits, but when you make your money by selling yourself as a devout, church-going, God-fearing, conservative Christian, for pete's sake, make a minimal effort! And quit lying.
So...Kate was on bedrest from 7 weeks to 30 weeks, which is actually 23 weeks. We've discussed this lie beforoe, as Kate has always claimed to be on bedrest for 30 weeks, which is a nearly two month difference. Why the lying?? This is not something one forgets. As I've stated before, bedrest is very common and (at least in my case) more of a tribute to those picking up the slack at work, with the children and the household.
I read on GWOP that Kate actually referred to herself as "selfless." That is hilarious! I think regularly "spa-ing" (as Kate calls it), always being fake tanned and manicured/pedicured and having a $200 dye job is mutually excluive of being selfless. Don't get me wrong - I have a little vanity streak myself and think if looking your best makes you feel good, go for it. But come on, let's call a spade a spade. It's for yourself and is by definition not selfless. And don't give me some malarkey about how it makes you happier and therefore makes you a better mom and is therefore for the children. That is called faulty logic.
The college thing... why is this such a huge deal? There are plenty of ways to put yourself through college, so the idea that it is acceptable (even neccessary) to do a potentially damaging reality show to earn college funds is foolish. Second, most parents who can afford it help fund college in some manner with their own money. What Kate is basically telling us is that she is proud that she has saved some of the money the children earned for the children's college. Does this make sense? Isn't Kate getting the best deal out of that?
Lastly, Kate thinks her children should get everything on a "golden platter." Um, Kate, "silver platter" / "golden egg" but I guess I'll just add it to the list of your verbal snafus. But isn't that exactly what most parents do NOT want? Can you imagine if every parent felt that way??? I spend a fair amount of time worrying about not spoiling my children and figuring out how to teach them a good work ethic, the need to contribute and the power of earning what they have (I know... they're 7 and under, but they know the value of a skittle! :)). That a parent would actually say their child DESERVES more than others?? Unbelievable. Unspeakable. Unfathomable.
There really must be something seriously wrong with Kate Gosselin.
Hi Suzi, I was up all night just like Kate. Wait, even as I write that, I have to wipe a tear that is not really there from the middle of my cheek (I hope Dr. Glass is not looking.) Seriously, though, great points again. Z
Posted by: Suzi J. | November 3, 2009 8:36 AM
Who is this woman and why in the world do people care about her? What has she done to be famous, other than have a lot of children? If that's all it takes, I can introduce you to many women in my community who have more children than she does and who manage to do it much better than she does without the salary that comes with a reality show! Several of the women I know who have 8 or more kids manage to raise them on one income, maintain a good marriage, AND exhibit kindness and patience to their kids. Maybe we should do a "reality" show about a family who lives in the "real world"!
Seriously, what is interesting about this woman? I understand that at one time it was interesting and marginally enjoyable to watch the kids and the family dynamics, but why in the world are people still watching? I have no interest in seeing Kate Gosselin without her husband and kids, although I did watch in the early days to see them trying to manage the details of life with six babies and then toddlers. She never presented the picture of a wife or mother I would admire or emulate, however, so I honestly can't figure out why she would be compelling on her own!
Posted by: Jillie | November 3, 2009 8:41 AM
First of all, I do not watch this show and I'm so glad that I don't. Anyway, I can't believe that a major news outlet would pick a side in an ugly divorce. I just don't understand what NBC can gain by selling out. Try doing a real interview that would actually be interesting.
Posted by: Ben | November 3, 2009 8:47 AM
Thank you for taking one for the team, Z. I can't watch anymore interviews with this idiot anymore, because it's just the same ol' same ol'. You know that if Morales had thrown some good follow-ups in there, Kate's publicist would have shut the interview down. It's very obvious that Kate doesn't want the show to end because then she'd have to go get a real job.
She can't take all of the kids to church, but she can take them all to North Carolina? Well, gee, that makes sense. Seems like she only wants to be an actual mom when there are cameras there to capture the footage. Reminds me of a Warren Beatty quote from Madonna's documentary "Truth or Dare"..."She doesn't want to live off-camera, much less talk. There's nothing to say off-camera. Why would you say something if it's off-camera? What point is there existing?"
Hi CJ: I love your line about her not being able to take the kids to church, but she can do North Carolina. Great. Thanks. Z
Posted by: CJ | November 3, 2009 8:47 AM
Sad really, but then NBC does stuff like this and they wonder why their ratings are so low.
Wonder how long NBC can fight off their own collapse....
Posted by: John from NC | November 3, 2009 8:51 AM
Didn't watch but saw a clip on YouTube. Natalie Morales did ask leading questions making it easy for Kate to answer and even her responses to Kate helped Kate to answer. If Morales pursued more concrete answers from Kate, they must have been edited out. Morales was made to look like a very poor reporter with this interview. She ought to leave NBC.
Posted by: Z Fan | November 3, 2009 8:55 AM
Z,
You really hit it with the Jon and the breathing comment. I remember that episode. For Kate to say that Jon shouldn't breathe. Breathing is essential to life the last time I checked, so Kate is essentially saying Jon your living annoys me. What happened to her supposedly being a Christian. Did she skip the part that says the husband is the head of the home and should be respected? Wow and yikes.
Z, sorry I might have posted this twice my computer has a virus I am pretty sure and is slow, slow, slow.
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 9:09 AM
please go away kate!!! hopefully this is now the end of her poor kate tour 2009. i'm sure 60 minutes have no desire to interview her.
it's for the kids....then stay home with your children. what on earth would this woman do if she had to stay home for 7 day in a row and take care of her children without the help of the nanny and whatever entourage she has.
so she can't go to church and jon is seeking advise from a rabbi. makes about as much sense as this entire deal.
she wants the old jon back cause she needs a whipping boy. old jon will never be back now that he's finally opened his eyes and left. he'll always be the kids' father and seems to treat the kids the same way. those kids are in serious need of discipline. just imagine what their teachers have to deal with during the course of the school day.
Posted by: Janice | November 3, 2009 9:11 AM
great comments here, "z's" and others. Where did best friend Jamie come from all of a sudden? Why does Kate get credit for great organizational skills when any time that was the focus of a show someone else was doing it (Beth and the professionals). Kate isn't a quitter? (her marriage, her mothering, her family and friend relationships). Kate's tears don't impress because they are just for pity not from any REAL feelings. Kate had not-a-nannies and she has not-an-answers for everything. BAAAAD QUESTION ASKERER paired with RIDICULOUSLY RIDICULOUS ANSWERER.
Hi barbee: you have that Kate-talk down cold. You are a ridiculously good Kate talkerer. Thanks. Z
Posted by: barbee | November 3, 2009 9:15 AM
Z, bloggers did anyone notice that once again there is not either Jon, Kate or Tlc or the Journalist masquerading as Mark Geragos asking about the children of this situation what it would take for 1 of these parents to put up the flag and say, "I will be the one who stays home with the kids so the other one can chase the career, brand goals"
This entire ideological family & cable network has yet to surrender and fight to have paramount custody of these kids involved.
I never hear about it, it is never asked, it is never really blogged about. Someone needs to step up and say for the best interest of the kids I will be the parent to stay home and raise them.
That burns my behind all the way!!!!!!No one fights for the kids, just the money & a dying show.
The kids are falling out of the conversation these days, you are right. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 9:18 AM
Someone had posted that yes Rabbi Shmley had a TLC show called Shalom in the Home, which was on TLC.
Before the divorce announcement, there were rumors that the J&K+8 show would follow J&K through marriage therapy.
Hmmm . . ..just didn't put it all together till now.
Jon: I'm done with Hailey. I want to apologize to Kate. Look, I'm hanging out with Rabbi Shmuley. I think I'm Jewish now.
Kate: I miss the old Jon. It's too hard to go to church.
Sickens me. Look for Shalom in the Home meets J&K.
I love it "Shalom in the Home" meets "J&K." The ratings will be through the roof. Listen, I am only half laughing. I put nothing past TLC any more when it comes to the kind of jumped-up family programming they will put on. Thanks. Z
Posted by: heather | November 3, 2009 9:21 AM
Ugh. As long as these two can garner airtime they will perform (and that is the correct term). The media needs to make it stop as these two show no inclination to. Come on, media. Do it for the kids.
Posted by: ruth | November 3, 2009 9:24 AM
I actually thought this was a fair, intelligent, informative interview.....*LOL* Oh geez - where to start - from the first "I was the forgotten middle-child" *sniff* to the rest of the Kate-circle-speak, it was more of the same - but "Just Kate!" (insert "jazz hands").
Z - you are spot-on with the "defense attorney questioning"! Natalie Morales - "Now Kate - I'll ask you a question - slanted kinda-sorta against you - but give you the direction to go in - just follow my lead & tear up every now and then - a gulp or two would be even more meaningful - and don't forget those "pregnant pauses"!!! (sorry about the pun *LOL*)
Katie Irene - just a simple girl with a dream..... ;-)
Interesting - NBC Today Show has had NOTHING about this on the show this morning.
Hi tb98: You deconstructed the defense attorney school of questioning better than me. That is exactly the way Morales played it, and that is exactly the game that was being played for the full hor. Thanks. Z
Posted by: tb98 | November 3, 2009 9:25 AM
Meagler | November 3, 2009 1:05 AM said:
"I am certain that when the "tups" were born, the State of Pennsylvania gave them paid for tuitions"
Believe me, I am NOT defending Kate; there is no defense appropriate for anything she has done.
BUT on the tuition issue and Pennsylvania, the Governor opened 529TAP accounts for each of the kids (I'm not sure if it was all 8 or just the sextuplets). He did not FUND the accounts, just opened them in their names so that the adoring public could DONATE.
Just wanted to clarify.
Posted by: DH | November 3, 2009 9:25 AM
Hi Z,
You deserve a huge debt of gratitude for watching this mess of an interview and reporting the real story. It was interesting this morning as Kate is no longer looking that great to the bloggers on various entertainment sites. I read some of the blogs on E and Radar Online and other outlets and not many were pro Kate. The fifteen minutes of famed lies is truly over and thanks to you and your honest portrayal of who this woman really is. I can't imagine sitting through the interview, actually interview probably isn't the right word. Natalie Morales doesn't sound like she proved herself as a reporter, I do hope that she can get beyond this staged TLC attempt of liking Kate and become a real reporter who can ask the right questions and get to the truth. Z, again a million thanks for your honesty and your blog I have added it to my must reads on a daily basis. The only question I have for you is the ratings, if the ratings are high what does this mean for Kate getting her own show or do you think TLC has milked this for all it's worth and it's truly over regardless of last night's ratings? Have a great day and hopefully it will be Kate free!!!!!!!
Hi, thanks for the kind words. I have not yet had a chance to check out other clogs and sites, but thanks to what you said, I am eager to do so to see if the wind has shifted a bit in direction. Thanks. Z
Posted by: justgoawayfaraway | November 3, 2009 9:30 AM
After that cross examination that aired on TLC last night, Ms. Gosselin's 15 minutes of fame is now at 14.5.
*I wonder how the sheeple feel now that their queen has admitted that she hated them in the beginning?
Posted by: Monica | November 3, 2009 9:33 AM
Z, when do you expect the next episode of Kate setting the record straight for a third time (until she gets it right).
Hi Mel, Stay tuned. More record sdtraightening just ahead. Her problem is rememebring how she set it "straight" last time. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Mel S. | November 3, 2009 9:43 AM
Z-I love your blog's honesty and truthfulness to this couple's media blitz of lies and deceit. This is the first time I visited and I have to say it so refreshing and funny. I am going to leave with a smile rather than being so angry at this woman for her self-pity and hypocrisy. She really is a narcissist. No wonder she has no friends or family. Thanks again I will continue to read. You have a new fan.
Hi Dee, Thanks. I think the commenters here have found ways to laugh, mock and deconstruct the lies and duplicity so that we can smile rather than being too angry about it. Hope you stay for some of the other Tv stuff here as well. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Dee | November 3, 2009 9:45 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Ok I watched, it was the first time I put on TLC since this whole circus transpired. Same questions, same answers. I'm starting to believe the public is being balloon boyed here. Really, she and Jon both have these big moments within a day of each other. The only thing she said that ringed a bit of truth is if she does go off the air, the media will talk about why she did that. When does this end! Why did she need the body guard in the room with her. Jon stated he didnt understand why he's called a celebrity, he cant sing or dance and he hasnt won the nobel peace, BINGO. I agree with that. I have never been a follower of anything on TV, its just not that big of a deal to me, although this craziness is just too hard not to comment on. I keep saying this will end but it doesnt seem to. And who in the world is going to watch a show with just her in it as she said she hopes to have if they can't continue filming with the kids.
Posted by: kad | November 3, 2009 9:52 AM
What a trend, J&K and OCC both crashing and burning. What a commentary on what fame does to people. Both Kate and Paul Sr. treat people who made them famous or who are around them like trash. Maybe with a huge drop in ratings/revenue TLC will put on more programs that won't lead to the corruption and potential abuse of children.
On a more scarier note. Kate's Mutant possum style seems to be spreading like a plague. I'm seeing it more and more around town. I call it the "mega *****" cut. Named after the creater, Kate.
Yikes, do I sense a trend -- the Kate hairdo? Maybe it was only Halloween. PS Had to edit one word for language. Sorry. Z
Posted by: Derek | November 3, 2009 9:55 AM
Regarding Kate not being "able" to go to church - I have a different view on that - I think it IS difficult for Kate - difficult because she & Jon poor-mouthed for donations in their own community from the time of the sextuplets' conception - DEMANDED additional help from the state - spent the last 3 years scheduling & scamming at church & commercial events all over the country - then VIOLA! move into a $1.3 million estate seemingly "overnight" - not to mention the cars, clothing, trips, etc. Yep - I think it's difficult for Kate to go to church in her community.....
Great analysis, tb. Z
Posted by: tb98 | November 3, 2009 9:56 AM
Can I say one more thing that has really bothered me? I think Kate saw freebies and $$ the minute she knew she knew she was having six kids. I also can't believe people would give money to her when she would only take cash-only donations. That is just a testament to what Kate really is about money and freebies. She has no talent except to cry crocodile tears at the drop of a hat. Thank you I feel so much better now.
I didn't know about the "cash only" policy toward charity. I am getting a real education in Gosselin-oligy here. Z
Posted by: Dee | November 3, 2009 9:56 AM
What gets me is why in the world they didn't just pay off the house they had, then they could be living debt free with a large savings as well as a separate college fund for the kids and would not need to be in the spotlight. Instead they have 2 mortgages, a penthouse for Jon in NYC, and a ridiculous amount of debt which was totally unneccessary. The kids could be well provided for without a strain on the family if they had not been so selfish and Kate could have provided for them even as a single mom nurse if they had been smart about things and not so ridiculous. My friend's husband is in the hospital with a brain tumor, she has two little kids and two foster kids and she doesn't fuss and cry as much as this woman. This summer she went on trips and got a kitchen makeover. Boo hoo. Divorce is hard sure, but her ex is not dying, her kids are healthy, she is not living in some van down by the river, and she has it very good. I wish my parents were still alive to see my kids. Unbelievable.
Hi Kathy, Thanks for that insight and a dose of what some folks have to deal with in the real world. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Kathy Shumaker | November 3, 2009 9:57 AM
Reply to Tulles 7:30 am.
You said that one interesting (Kate, interesting?) point Kate made was that the paps didn't show up until "a storyline showed up that they liked"
Yet, Morales didn't counter with "and what WAS that storyline?"
Was the storyline the fact that the show's seams were being stretched and the phoney facade of a happy little family was cracking?
Was the storyline the fact that Kate was all over the country, leaving her children behind with the "old Jon" and "not-a nannys"?
Was the storyline the fact that a month after the big Hawaiin wedding and telling the kids that mommy & daddy would be together "forever",these 2 people were living in separate quarters of their new huge home?
Was the storyline the fact that Kate was telling such fabrications of "truths" that she was forgetting what she had previously said and people were catching on to her "untruths".
Was the storyline the fact that Kate no longer was the regular looking mom to 8 kids, but had morphed into a cheaper, more orange version of Victoria Beckham?
Was the storyline the fact that when the family moved into the house that was "for the kids", Kate stood at the window professing "this is MINE, all MINE"?
Tulles, we could go on and on about what the "storyline" was that caused the media to see the truth and zero in on these 2 people.
But, the fact that Kate offered the word "storyline" shows us how delusional she really is in regards to this "realist of all reality shows". She has turned the lives of 8 innocent children into a STORYLINE for publicity.
Plus.. one key comment she made is when Morales asked what "lessons she has learned" from this experience. Our ever self-indulged Kate answers that "good or bad, the lessons I learned could fill 10 books".
Yikes.. and here we have it folks, more books from Kate titled "Sitting by the Phone Waiting for the Old Jon to Show UP".. volumes 1 throught 10.
Posted by: marieE | November 3, 2009 9:58 AM
Good grief. If she is a "rule-follower," why didn't she make sure that she applied for work permits for the 8 kids? Her wailing about the missing camera crew is ridiculous since the labor dept. would have closed down production anyway. So are Kate and TLC/Discovery going to slam labor laws and labor inspectors when the inspection concludes that the production proceeded without proper work permits for the kids?
Posted by: td | November 3, 2009 9:59 AM
Regarding Kate Gosselin's interview last night...wonderful recap and great responses. Z, I am hugh fan of yours....just found "you" a couple of months ago.
Hi Misty, Thanks for the kind words. And I am glad you are staying on. Z
Posted by: Misty | November 3, 2009 10:03 AM
Ok our fearless leader Z and fellow bloggers. Thanks for all the great comments.
I just think we all need to laugh for a moment. I hope you enjoy. It isn't the greatest but it will have to do.
THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN 2 REALITY MOTHERS~~A SURFACE LOOK AT Ma Duggar and Ma Kate
PIANO
MA Duggar~ "We are so excited we planned on purchasing that down the road."
MA Gosselin~ "The Duggars got one where is mine?"
KIDS
Ma Duggar ~ "Children are the Heritage of the Lord"
Ma Gosselin~ 'Children are a money making brand ~ um, may I add cash & gift cards only"
HOME
Ma Duggar ~ "We built our dream home together a labor of
love debt free"
Ma Gosselin ~ We mortgaged our dungeon to the hilt so that I could have a staff, a bodyguard, and unlimited spa visits"
SPOUSES
Ma Duggar ~ "My husband is my rock "
Ma Gosselin ~ "My husband gets hit over the head with my ROCK."
CLOTHING
Ma Duggar ~ "We buy used and save the difference"
Ma Gosselin ~ We make others buy our clothing new & named brand only and SPEND the difference."
PARENTS
Ma Duggar ~ We are blessed to be able to have Grandpa and Grandma in our house"
Ma Gosselin ~ "I have all I can take with 8 kids and a staff. I couldnt possibly take on my parents ~ something would give."
Bloggers have a great day. Thanks for keeping me sane about an insane TV reality mess.
Great post. I'm smiling. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 10:08 AM
Glad I did not tune in - I am sick and tired of the Jon and Kate drama. Sounds like Kate pulled a "public "pity party" that I am not interested in attending. This should seal the deal people. This show needs to be pulled. It appears America is bored with the crying, broken marriage saga and Kate walking around letting the world know her bills can not be paid because of what Jon did. Pleeeeze...The few times I watched this show it appears Kate manipulates the media and switches up on a dime. She will do ANYTHING for the MONEY and I think that's sad. TLC ya gotta a loser here...I don't know about anyone else but TLC is not an option for television viewing for me anymore...to many other shows to watch.
Posted by: Nina | November 3, 2009 10:10 AM
When the rumors started about her and her bodyguard, all she had to do was get rid of him and get another guard. She never did.
The guy was just out of sight during the interview. Did she expect Natalie to suddenly grab her in a choke hold or something so she needed protection?
Pathetic - and she had enough makeup on to choke a horse.
Great point about why the body guard had to be on the set for the interview. Thanks, Kay. I missed that. Z
Posted by: Kay | November 3, 2009 10:10 AM
From what I've read here, Kate keeps saying the kids miss the crew, filming and trips.
I suspect that if the kids miss the trips and film crew as much as she says, it's because Kate has likely become more unbearable than ever to live with since it all ended. Can't you just imagine her reactions to Jon pulling the plug on the show? As a narcissistic control freak, this probably sent her into a rage. And without the crew there, no doubt Kate no longer feels the need to temper her screaming jags and emotionally abusive parenting.
So, in summary, OF COURSE, they miss trips and the film crew. Because that's when Kate does her best to fake being a patient, decent mother.
I'm feeling so very bad for those children.
I did not watch this grifter spew her lies last night. Other than reading Z's blog, I haven't read anything about it or watched the show for more than a year.
And the only reason I read Z is because he offers intelligent deconstruction of shows, being that he is a journalist and TV critic with heaps of integrity — one of only a few, apparently.
Hi Carolina, Thanks for the analysis on why the kids might be missing the trips, crew, etc. And thanks for the kind words. Z
Posted by: Carolina | November 3, 2009 10:13 AM
Heather,
That was the name of the show, "Shalom In the Home". I used to watch that show. I think it was cancelled. I really kind of liked the show, but that is what I was wondering. Why would Rabbi Shmuley take on Jon Gosselin. His whole thing with Haliey seems like it is falling apart. Jon can't seem to commit to anything even his children. Like Irene said, custody issues and no spiritual guidance from either parent. Those kids are the ones being hurt.
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 10:13 AM
yep, i said it months ago when Jon was on Nancy Grace and the woman treated him like crap on the show, kate has lost almost all she has---why? on the basic premise--you love thy neighbor and treat people kindly--you never know when it will turn around and bite you in the ass--she lost her husband, she don't have much family, and soon she will have no income. (All because of how she treated people--)what god gives he can take away--and with the blow of the wind, too!!
Posted by: jane | November 3, 2009 10:26 AM
ALY,
I was just reading through the posts, there are so many it is hard to keep up these days. I had to laugh about the dropplets of wine on the keyboard. Are you sure that is not the reason that you other computer is in the shop haha. My husband says keep all drinks away from the keyboards, but I can see why you needed the drink with this fiasco of J&K. I have to laugh too, my dog loves to sit in my lap when I watch TV in this certain chair and he is a 60-pound Ridgeback/Boxer mix, there is barely room for both of us in the chair. Aren't dogs the greatest, they just want to be where you are. :)
P.S. Have a great day!! Enjoyed the post.
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 10:27 AM
Didn't watch, as I figured it would just be more of the same spin this "spider" has been spinning, but this blog and the comments are very insightful. I love the defense attorney analogy--it fits perfectly for this situation (and other so-called "interviews" by the media).
I don't know--there may be a "very special" special program coming around the holidays--Jon and Kate come together for the holidays for the sake of the children--Jon comes home with his tail between his legs, Kate magnanimously tries to forgive Jon, making it a "Very Gosselin Christmas"....
A Very Gosselin Christmas -- great concept. I wonder if the elves at TLC are hard at work right now. Z
Posted by: pareader | November 3, 2009 10:28 AM
Wow, I love your column! I found it online and it is the most honest report of last night's show that I read. I used to love this show when it was about 2 parents coping with 8 small children on a fixed budget, but when it became about the trips and McMansion, I quit in disgust. Does anyone know how the show, or last week's show, did in the ratings?
Hi Cheri, Last week, the audience was 3 million. The week before that 1.9 million. Two weeks ago, 2.5 million. The show topped out at 10 million five months ago. So buig audience loss. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Cheri | November 3, 2009 10:29 AM
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Gee whiz, I find Kate much more honest than the lying, idiot she married.
Jon should be in jail.
Posted by: hayden | November 3, 2009 10:29 AM
To marieE:
Fantastic breakdown. You really nailed this mess. Thanks!
Maria
Posted by: Carolina | November 3, 2009 10:29 AM
If you are lucky enough to fall into wealth, you better be very wise and spend/save that money carefully. If you don't have any career skills or talent to maintain that level of income, you are a fool to live like the money will continue coming in at that level.
That's Kate's problem. To say she can't support the kids without the show is just repulsive. Had her and Jon maintained a normal lifestyle, they'd have millions stashed away and could both work part-time and be there for their kids.
I can't believe the way Americans have been losing jobs and homes, she really thinks she's the one that has it tough.
I didn't watch it, but read that she said her kids deserve life handed to them on a silver platter. Way to raise future narcissists, Kate!
Posted by: Anne | November 3, 2009 10:41 AM
From KATE: HER RING.. errr.. STORY":
Kate said her parents now send her emails, but they don't see each other. When asked when the kids last saw their grandparents, Kate hemmed/hawwed and didn't answer.
Reason for the "fallout" in her words was "everyone has an opinion and those opinions aren't mine". And, she stated that the fallout happened before the tv show started.
Ok, Kate, the first documentary was when the tups were still infants and that morphed soon into the tv show. So, are you saying that your kids have not seen your parents in aboutish 5 years?
Did the falling out occur soon after your father was humiliated in front of his church congretation when you rudely refused the cribs and other articles that were donated to you, because they didn't match?
Yes, Kate, everyone in the entire world has their own opinion, not only you & people in your life (or were in your life). But, the difference is most people disagree, try to see the other's standpoint and then usually just move on with the "agree to disagree" standard.
While I might understand you locking strangers out of your life when they don't cater to your opinions (rules?), I think most normalish people give a little slack to loved ones.
Your "my way or the highway" doesn't seem to have served you well. I say this since you stated that coming from a family of parents and 4 siblings and also your extended family, you have ended up with only SIX people in your life that you trust . And, lets not forget, 4 of those people need you for THEIR paycheck, just as you claim to need the show for YOUR'S.
I'm not sure who the other 2 people are in your tight-knit circle, but could you please tell us if they are also TLC employees?
But, of course,all this is MY opinion and you can block me from your life at any time.
Posted by: marieE | November 3, 2009 10:42 AM
Even if this garners big ratings for TLC, do they really think that means Kate could head a show solo? How does a supposed "tell all" interview give you a clue how a weekly show would be received?
Posted by: Anne | November 3, 2009 10:57 AM
This whole body guard thing bothers me. If Kate feels threatened and feels she needs a bodyguard, wouldn't she also be worried about the children? They are with their nanny by themselves at the bus stop and being picked up. Why don't they have body guards?
Posted by: Marie | November 3, 2009 11:01 AM
Z - love your blog - you analysis of last nite's program was excellent.
My only comment - Im sure glad they finally gave her a box of kleenex - I was expecting to see Noah, the ark and the animals marching two onboard from the water flow of tears.
Keep up the excellent work.
PS - what do you think will happen now?
Posted by: karen | November 3, 2009 11:03 AM
Z,
You might not know about this since I have not seen it discussed when Kate stated that she was a ‘contract-honoror’ (whatever). Last year or the year before, she did not honor contracts she signed with some churches and backed out of them. The reason was never stated, I believe and in the meanwhile, she KEPT the speaking engagement fee. She did not return it is what I heard. I wish there was more of an investigation into it so Ms. Morales could present this to her and ask her why she backed out of a contract and if the monies were returned. She should have asked her why they were continuing to con the churches after they brought the 1.3 million house. I do think it’s ridiculous that a church has to charge the public in order to pay her speaking engagement fee, her boyfriend, first class travel and hotel accommodations. Some churches said the love offerings were to cover the cost of her fee, but that doesn’t even make sense if they were already selling the tickets—the cost of ticket would have gone toward her ‘high-scale fee’, right? $3,000 to 25,000 is what I hear she demands for speaking at churches. I thought churches were non-profit and are not looking to make money off anyone, even a D-list celebrity. She should have donated her time of 1-2 hours and not put the effort to peddle her book and cash only pictures afterwards. I shudder to think of how much money she must have got at one of these events. The churches in my town don’t even charge for night classes, i.e. new mothers, parenting, bible study, etc. I understand some churches are very small, therefore has a very small budget to host a special event. I would think they would have said ‘no thanks’ after receiving the list of demands from her! And why isn’t IRS looking into that?
Posted by: LB | November 3, 2009 11:17 AM
I made a statement a couple of years ago about Jon & Kate Gosselin - that they are this decade's Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker.
There are lots of analogies - but the basis for my comparison is:
(1) Both were a couple of unknowns that gained fame & wealth from "working" the church appearance circut (at first).
(2) They both became famous (or infamous) - wealthy - and began a quick accumulation of things you'd expect from a sudden influx of money - mansion/estate - cars - designer clothing - etc.
(3) Both became "distanced" from those who made them famous (by managers/PR/bodyguards/bad advisors)
(4) Allegations of infidelity on both sides
(5) Plastic surgery
(6) Major media "explosion" when an affair was uncovered (Jim Bakker/Jessica Hahn - Jon Gosselin/schoolteacher)
(7) Major PR campaign/Major cover-up
(8) Allegations of finances being misused - hidden bank accounts
(9) Divorce
The only thing left is Jail & Remarriage to totally be a mirror image of Jim & Tammy Faye. I would LOVE someone (Z! *LOL*) to do an indepth comparison on these two couples! :-) (As if your head hasn't exploded already! *LOL*)
Posted by: tb98 | November 3, 2009 11:24 AM
I used to watch, before the firestorm. I liked the show, the kids were cute, she was way harsh, Jon was a doofus. I wondered why he seemed so listless and flabby, then the public battle broke out. I think I'm susceptible to her voice and her persona, because I don't hate her the way that most people seem to. Heck, I even like her hair! I should stop confessing now, huh. ...
Posted by: Barton Fink | November 3, 2009 11:25 AM
I realized in watching that mess last night why I hate listening to Kate talk (in addition to the lies, um's, etc, etc). Kate Gosselin does not need to have anyone "interview" her because she asks more questions of herself than the person sitting on the other side of the couch! Let me take your softball question and spin it how I want to and then ask 2 or 3 more on my own to myself to back that point up.
I'm not sure who coaches Kate for her PR stuff, but that person has failed miserably in this case.
Posted by: Geoff | November 3, 2009 11:27 AM
I am so thankfull we didn't play the drinking game last night!!! I would in in ICU and not able to read z.
Posted by: Avis | November 3, 2009 11:29 AM
SO....why is the body guard still around?? He seems more important than her marriage.
And since she admitted the marriage was over last year, Jon was within his rights to date!!
Posted by: Mommy Dearest. | November 3, 2009 11:34 AM
You know what scares me, that I will die before Mady is old enough to write her tell all book and I will never know the real story behind their life.
So Sherry T. and Irene, I expect you to have an all night vigil at my coffin and read the whole book to me!!!
Posted by: Avis | November 3, 2009 11:35 AM
"If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do matters very much." Jackie Kennedy Onassis.
I read Kate made the statement that she wanted her children to have everything handed to them on a gold platter and this Jackie O quote immediately came to mind.
Her goal is to raise her children to be spoiled, incompetent (ie: unable to figure out how to deal with problems) and selfish people?
My greatest pride is that my oldest children are thoughtful, productive, kind people working in fields where they hope to make a difference in the world.
Jackie O is right, all my accomplishments pale in relationship to the people I am raising my children to be.
Isn't it most parents goal/wish that their children give to the world and others in need- not just take and expect everything to be handed to them?
Kate is scary. Thank you for watching. I would have distroyed the TV when she said the "golden platter" comment -let alone anything she might of said about not being able to support her 8 kids on a RN wage. She steams every RN in the country when she says this. A RN wage is a good living wage in most of the country.
Truth is Kate wants to have a "job" that does not involve caring for anyone but herself, one that justifies spas, travel, cameras and Nannies, so she doesn't have to deal with the day to day job of raising and loving the children she created.
Posted by: maura | November 3, 2009 11:40 AM
There is no reason for anyone to be interviewing this woman!
Any one of us could sit on that couch and boo-hoo about our childhoods, parents, marriage, divorce, children, not sleeping at night, etc. Kate has nothing more remarkable to say than you or me. In fact, we probably have more touching stories to tell than Kate. I had zero sympathy stirred within me from the 8:23 minute clip I watched of her trying to grasp at something to cry about.
Kate is the one behind Kate's problems. Jon and Kate made enough money from the show, books, and appearances that they could have stopped and just been a normal family out of the media spotlight. I think Jon wanted that. Kate did not. Kate likes to say that she can't go back. What she means is, she doesn't want to go back. She could go back if she would quit these ridiculous interviews. Celebrities fade from memory ALL the time! Kate wants to keep herself out there looking for more media opportunities for herself because home alone with eight kids is something she doesn't want. That is why she has to incessantly repeat that everything she does is for the kids, trying to convince everyone of her biggest lie.
I think back to the ring Kate wants. She wants the mother-of-pearl ring with eight little diamonds because she is big on symbolism. Kate needs a ring to symbolize her and her children, because she can't give them what they need. If she was a strongly caring, warm, and loving presence in their lives - wanting peace for them, she would have no need for a ring to symbolize anything. The kids would already know by her actions. Unfortunately, I believe they are getting a different message.
Posted by: Peg | November 3, 2009 11:50 AM
I have a feeling that if things continue as they are, and more and more anti-Kate feelings spread, TLC will be changing tactics in the coming months. I predict that, after finally realizing that the Kate gravy train is not going to return to the station, they will turn on her and hang her out to dry for profit.
It would be so simple. They start putting word out that Kate has become increasingly difficult and is making unreasonable demands, or that she is threatening to sue TLC because they forced her to use her children. They say that she is - gasp! - lying in interviews, and they can't condone that. They spin some stories about how they felt morally obligated to keep the film crews in the house because Kate had become unhinged and abusive and her behavior was so irrational. They say they allowed her to do so many interviews in the hope that someone would ask her hard questions.
Then, all TLC needs to do is gather up lots of edited footage and piece it together in a series of shows as an expose of a fame-crazed, money-hungry mother who will stop at nothing to use her children to further her own interestes.
I'm certain that TLC must have hours of material showing Kate in all her nastiness making snide and rude comments about all kinds of things, including her fans and the good-hearted but naive people who donated to "help" her out of poverty. TLC could even allow interviews with film crew members and other employees who had the distinct pleasure of working for Kate. They could blow the lid off all the deceptions, weekly show by weekly show, and claim they are doing it now "for the sake of the kids".
Yep, they could create an entire series, and I expect something like this would be a ratings bonanza. I think I would even tune in for it.
I know it might sound far-fetched right now, but wouldn't it be something if this is what turns out to be the show they promised to develop for Kate.
One can dream.
Posted by: AnnC | November 3, 2009 11:51 AM
The other 2 in her tight-knit circle must be her divorce attorney and PR manager
Posted by: Socali | November 3, 2009 11:54 AM
Wow, Z - spot on re: Natalie as a defense attorney, wonderful and true comparison!
Kate really got angry re: the question about stopping the show/not being in the media spotlight and the US Weekly mag cover (haha!) - she pointed her finger several times at Natalie!
Who does she think she is? Wasn't she ever told as a child not to point at someone? Typical Kate being rude and disrespectful. I did like the fact that Natalie kept stating and questioning her on the fact that that she won't be in the spotlight if she's not on a TV show - which is really a no-brainer!
I've never heard her say so much about her parents and her own childhood. Oh - boohoohoo, the poor forgotten middle child...what a piece of work, boy, does she have mental issues! She is obviously lying about her relationship (or lack of) with her entire family. Seems to me that she doesn't have a good relationship with them because she can't control them like she did Jon.
Also, re: Jodi and Kevin - she has said it multiple times and during this interview that she is upset with him because she thinks that they are trying to make money off her and the kids by doing interviews etc. So - following that logic...is it perfectly acceptable that TLC is making oodles of money off Kate and the kids? (probably a heck of a lot more that she is!) But not your very own brother and sister-in-law that puts themselves out there on your TV show, opened their home to cameras (and scrutiny) and babysat your 8 children all at once? I don't get that at all. If it was about the money, I'm pretty sure that they would have sold dozens of stories to crappy tabloids like the so-called "nanny" did.
I'm completely sick and tired of hearing about her bed rest when she was pregnant with the 'tups. She really needs to get over it! That was over 5 years ago - is she going to hang that over the kids heads for the rest of their lives?! Besides the fact that THAT was a choice - she didn't magically happen to get pregnant with 6 children - it's modern science and she choose fertility treatments! Jeez - talk about a drama queen. I don't hear the lady from "Table for 12" being all melodramatic about her pregnancy - and she has 10 children with 1 that has special needs!!!!
If TLC thinks that interviews like this are going to make people feel sorry for her and want to watch a show that is "All About Kate" - then they are completely delusional - she came across as a contrived liar that blames everyone else for her problems and has terrible personal relationships with almost every person in her life - oh wait, except for the paid friends - a.k.a. the bodyguard and his wife, of course!
Someone please stick a fork in this couple and call it (in Kate's words) "DONE".
Posted by: Susan | November 3, 2009 12:03 PM
How does she determine when she needs a bodyguard? It seems like she is often out and about with the kids and no bodyguard. Then last night a bodyguard. Strange?!
Posted by: Laurel | November 3, 2009 12:03 PM
Hi Z, another job well done. Great review.
Kate is such a phony. I know we've all said it a million times before, but she really & truly is.
The good news is now you can watch the Yanks win the World Series AT HOME in the Boogey Down Bronx. LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!
Posted by: Kathleen | November 3, 2009 12:08 PM
Hi Sherry T - had to laugh at your reply to me, and yes, you're right. When Kate shed her first tear I headed for the wine bottle. And no, my other computer wasn't the victim of drowning. Very funny.
Your Ridgeback/Boxer mix must be a beautiful dog - and big. My Terrier mix (he's a rescue dog so I don't know what he is) is only 1/2 the size of yours. He very slowly "sneaks" onto my lap and thinks I don't notice. Dogs are the best.
Posted by: Aly | November 3, 2009 12:12 PM
What is it going to take to stop this woman. I would have thought by now she would have faced some real questions and exposed her phony facade once and for all. Is TLC that good at handling her or is the mainstream media that gullible? Or are they simply complicit in her con? I have more than a passing interest in the welfare of child performers and the current state of unregulated exploitation executed by realty shows and this show and this couple could be the focal point of the whole debate/fight.
Posted by: John | November 3, 2009 12:22 PM
Hi Z,
Thank you so much for the great recap and especially for taking the high road so we did not have to.
Nancy, I believe that Jon did an interview this summer where he said Kate had hidden $100,000 in the house and she got caught and then, set up the trust funds with $80,000 for all 8 kids. I guess she spent the other $20,000 or maybe, she saved it so she could buy food for the kids. But, $10,000 for each kid is not going to go far in 12-15 years. College is expensive. That is why I think Kate is a parasite. Her kids are the host. The more Kate talks, the more all the old rumors seem true.
For instance, Kate does not speak to her parents because her Father had the nerve to collect used baby furniture for his daughter and her 6 babies. She refused them because she wanted matching new ones. She wanted her Father to ask his parishioners to give her cash and he said no. That's one rumor that I think is true. Just my opinion.
I guess that Kate never watched Judge Judy much. If she did, she would know that if you tell the truth...you do not have to remember what lie you told before.
How come if there isn't anything going on with the bodyguard.....she has never said she didn't/ isn't having an affair with him. She always says it's disgusting but, never denies it.
If Kate ever admits to any mistakes on her part...give me a holler you guys. I'm sure I will hear you.
Posted by: Diane | November 3, 2009 12:40 PM
Jon and Kate are using the media because the cash cows (once called gorgeous children) are about to dry up by the public backlash....
So she didn't give that Julia Roberts Oscar winning performance. Kate wasn't Erin Brochavich hahahahahahaha
Posted by: Stacy | November 3, 2009 12:42 PM
Why can't this woman have a little class and fade away into the inevitable obscurity gracefully? Why must she drag it out to a bitter and embarassing end? Is she that clueless regarding her "celebrity"? And why do I continue to watch?
I think the watching makes sense in many ways. Mainly, this person and her family were held up as an ideal by TV, and there is a natural fascination in seeing the darker truth about it. I think we all mistrust media to some extent, and the saga of Jon & kate confirms some of our worst thoughts about its more dishonest aspects. And this woman was held up as an ideal of motherhood, and viewers were essentially asked to judge themselves against her as moms. So, seeing that the picture is not so perfect matters as to how some viewers see themselves. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Justine | November 3, 2009 12:44 PM
I'm so tired of hearing Kate "ask and answer" her own questions. She is in serious denial. At this point, I don't think she knows what is or isn't good for her children . . . and that is very scary. Her need for fame and money has hindered her critical thinking abilities. Also, why is it she has to constantly proclaim what she perceives to be her "best qualities" - do everything for my kids, high road taker, etc. IMO, I view this as Kate trying to convince herself because knows she is/does none of these things. Deep down in that black, rotten, shriveled up little heart of hers - she knows what she is but continues forward all in the name of fame and the almighty buck. I do believe she loves her kids, but I think she loves herself more. She comes first. I don't understand how a mother could be away from her children as much as she is.
Posted by: Bristol | November 3, 2009 12:54 PM
Hi again Z,
I just had to get out my book. Yes, I got it for Christmas. In her book, her words, on page 51, the second paragraph...she went into the hospital for bed rest on March 7, 2004. The babies were born on May 10, 2004. That is at the most, 10 weeks of bed rest...not 30. She has tripled it. I think she need to go back and reread her own story.
Fantastic research into Kate, the spinner. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Diane | November 3, 2009 12:57 PM
All it took was one glance at the way Kate was all gussied up....my first thought was what street would she be walking. Kinda mirrored the life she has lived!
Posted by: John | November 3, 2009 12:58 PM
Z, great recap! Thank you for your professional journalism.
My opinion (we all have one) is that Kate is just scared to death to have to give up the "finer things" she has become familiar having and doesn't want to spend the family money to take the children on vacations and special events. Why should she when she can get it for free?
Someone is giving both Gosselins bad advise. They need to start saving every cent they have immediately! Z, isn't their 15 minutes ticking wildly?
Posted by: Karen | November 3, 2009 1:04 PM
Z:
If you're ever so inclined (and haven't already), to get a good glimpse of the delusion that are Kate supporters, check out the comment sections of any Gosselin post at Radar Online. They are the reason I solely post here now; if you even dare to utter one iota of a varying opinion, you are a welfare check receiving, lowlife, sorry excuse for a Mom. It's a very interesting look at those who support Kate.
Posted by: Holly | November 3, 2009 1:13 PM
Just saw portion of Jon and the Rabbi. He said he had no one else to talk to but the rabbi. What about his minister? What about someone from his Catholic background? His mom? His brothers? A therapist back in Penna. where he lives? They certainly spent years running to the Christian churches to tell their sob story and we watched them on
TV attend church, so why not go to his own minister in private? It is all B/S.
Posted by: jersey | November 3, 2009 1:20 PM
Please forgive me if this has already been asked and answered but I haven't had the time to read all the comments and I am really curious about the numbers that will come in from last night. Z, do you think TLC has the power to skew the numbers that come from Nielsen? Are there ways of making them look 'better' than they really are? How can we know how many actually watched last night and what does it really mean. From my perspective, I expect high ratings just because we have all watched this massive train wreck from the beginning and want to see the major 'bring down' of Kate G. She is so arrogant and unrepentant of having done anything wrong -- its all someone elses fault. So I know I personally want to watch her take that tumble. But do you think if the numbers are really high it will make a difference in people's true impression of Kate and maybe extend her TV run?
Hi Barbara, I do not think TLC has the power to do so. they do have some control over them in terms of how they are released, but if they lie and put out false numbers, the fallout wqould be disastrous if they were caught. And Nielsen would, in fact, be contractually within its rights to expose any client who puts out false numbers. So, they will probably try to spin them and release them to folks like radaronline last week who will mis-characterize them as being better than they are. But outright lie about the ratings, I do not think so. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Barbara | November 3, 2009 1:21 PM
I can't believe I just spent my lunchtime watching this on youtube, but the comment that made me scream at my computer moniter was when Natalie asked her what part of how hard it is do we not see. She said "Well, I don't let out how hard it is." WHAT? Then why were you crying on the Today show (more than once), crying on your own show, and telling Ellen "I won't lie, it's hard." When have you not let out how hard it is?!
Great, btw. You ruined your lucnh, but you offered a great insight. I missed that. Thanks. Z
Posted by: btw | November 3, 2009 1:22 PM
Well thanks Z for stomaching what many of us could not.
I'm not at all surprised about the "show" of tears. It's a great defense against the truth and usually a successful diverting tactic...if you're 6 years old and just lied about breaking your Mom's favourite vase.
The fact that her lies are helping her to continue to exploit her 8 children is just disgusting.
I could comment about the specifics you mentioned but so many other bloggers here have that well covered.
I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus that is screaming, "When will this woman just disappear already!"
The sad truth is that tv show or no tv show this delusional woman is still the mother to 8 young, innocent children...and that should concern everyone.
Posted by: Zayna | November 3, 2009 1:28 PM
She doesn't need a bodyguard when she is pumping gas and picking up packages at UPS, but she does need one for TLC approved appearances and interviews. Remember how he was present at the Vanity Fair article. Was she in danger being interviewed in a hotel room? So why was he there? B/c Steve is part of the machine that created the Kate brand and his job is brand management. Remember in the VF article, it was Steve's idea to go shopping for the kids at FAO Schwartz and not to a trendy sushi restaurant which is what Kate wanted to do. Pretty pathetic that her inner circle consists of people whose salaries depend on her.
Posted by: btw | November 3, 2009 1:30 PM
I think she and Jon should just get back together.
Posted by: John | November 3, 2009 1:36 PM
Hello Z!
Thank you for your insightful columns.
Sorry if I missed this (and it was posted before), but you do realize that NBC and TLC have an incestuous relationship already, right?
The main producer of this special (may be listed as executive producer) and the other Kate specials (as well as several other TLC shows, including the monkey baby show...lol!) also produces for NBC (she has produced for Dateline NBC and other programs going back years and years).
So, the "in-bed" relationship already exists and is a very dangerous cross-over between "news" and "entertainment" and now "train wrecks" and "family meltdowns."
The viewing public needs to know this.
Thanks!
Posted by: sunnie | November 3, 2009 1:56 PM
Z, Lat night, I watched baseball with my husband. Neither of us are baseball fans, but nine innings of paint drying sure beats one hour of Kate's blubbering lies. Great job exposing the spin. Please keep it up.
Posted by: No Wire Hangers!!!!! | November 3, 2009 1:58 PM
She has NEVER, never, not once denied having an affair with Steve. Ever. She has never said: I never cheated on Jon.
Why? Hmmmm . . .
Posted by: heather | November 3, 2009 2:10 PM
To be serious, is there anything about Kate that can be revealed in a "hardhitting" interview? We all seem to be waiting for some sort of revelation, but I don't think there is going to be one! Kate very truly has nothing of interest to say. She has not had a hard life and overcome great obstacles. She has had many good and fortunate things in her life and is very ungrateful and rejecting of them. That is all there is to her.
Posted by: Peg | November 3, 2009 2:15 PM
Z-
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This is from Jon Gosselin's twitter page. Is this true? Did she finally admit they split last fall, just weeks after the vow renewal, not this spring as she has relentlessly LIED ABOUT since the divorce announcement this spring?
If so, how could Natalie Morales NOT question Kate's statement!?!?!
Posted by: heather | November 3, 2009 2:20 PM
Dear Kate's Lawyer:
Since you read this blog, please read the below which is the diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. Note that if one has five of these traits, you may have this disorder.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines narcissistic personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:[6]
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance.
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love (megalomania).
3. Believes they are "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, people (or institutions) who are also "special" or of high status.
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative.
7. Lacks empathy.
8. Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
From the behaviors Kate has demonstrated on her show and in her endless interviews, I think most of us would agree she is well beyond meeting the diagnostic criteria of 5 traits or more.
If you are truly working in her best interest and the best interest of her children, I suggest you strongly encourage your client to get an evaluation and see if she has this disorder.
If everything she does is for her children, certainly finding out if she has a personality disorder and treating that disorder is the most important thing she could do for them.
Posted by: Anne | November 3, 2009 2:25 PM
So I'm watching the first couple of parts of "Kate: Her Schlock" on youtube. Bristol - I'm noticing it a lot... Kate keeps asking and answering her own questions like -
"Is it out of the question forever? no"
"Are they right? yes"
"Was it good and healthy and wonderful? no"
"Am I proud of a lot of those moments that were captured? no"
"Am I in control of all that came out of the show? no"
"Did anyone predict what would come out of the show? no"
Who's conducting this interview anyway? And the lies, oh the lies...too numerous to mention.
You are so dead on with your review Z. What a farce. Natalie made herself look just as silly as her client.
My brain needs a breather. Back later....
Posted by: Chrysee | November 3, 2009 2:38 PM
Hi Aly,
Glad that your other computer did not drown, glad to hear that. Yes, I love my Ridgeback/Boxer mix. We got him at the animal shelter in 2000 and he is nine years old already. He has a pretty reddish-orange coat and a ridge down his back and the rest is boxer with a square stout front. No he does not sneak anywhere he jumps right on, he thinks he is lap dog.
No Kate's tears are becoming the same old same old and meaningless when in between them she is telling us that she does it all for the kids, but all the while contradicting everything that a good parent would do. It's quite sad. Glad that it is being exposed. I hope this is her last interview.
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 2:42 PM
Kate wants the OLD JON back because the old JON DID ALL THE HOUSEWORK AND TOOK CARE OF THE KIDS AND FIXED HER COFFEE AND BREAKFAST IN BED.
HELL YEAH SHE WANTS THE OLD JON BACK. HE DID EVERYTHING BUT WIPE HERE REAR !
Posted by: Dana | November 3, 2009 2:44 PM
If Natalie Morales can be the defense attorney, could you "Z" be the coroner and pronounce all of this Kate nonsense dead? I don't even like myself anymore, let alone Kate, for following all of this insanity!
Posted by: Peg | November 3, 2009 2:48 PM
Jon Gosselin even called out Kate on her lies last night. This morning he Tweeted that Kate even slipped up last night when she said they actually split up a year ago. Very interesting considering she went on the View and said they split in April of this year.
He also tweeted that when Kate was asked who ended it first, she said she couldn't remember.
Looks like her tales are coming undone.
Posted by: Kelly | November 3, 2009 2:52 PM
I did not watch. I knew I would not be able to understand her language. Khate speaks in "code" and she's the only one who knows it!!
This woman is such a disgrace to motherhood.
Posted by: Melanie | November 3, 2009 2:53 PM
Last night, Kate thanked her "fans" for sticking by and supporting her. FYI: I am NOT a fan! On the rare occasions that I think I can stomach the show and actually watch it, I am only there because of its "abnormal psychology" aspect. I am a gawker watching a freak show.
From what I saw in Kate's latest TLC/Natalie Morales interview, she is absolutely clueless about how her lies are perceived by the public. As far as I can tell, she's "famous" (more like "infamous") after the fashion of John Wayne Bobbitt, Tonya Harding and Joey Buttafuoco.
I did see Kate trying desperately to win her case in the court of public opinion for Jon to cave in and allow her to continue shooting footage of her and her eight for TLC.
I am totally disgusted that Morales never pressed Kate on the important issues.
Posted by: Vicky Simpson | November 3, 2009 2:57 PM
Aly said that K8 once said:
"She also said when she’s at the grocery store with the kids (which she said isn’t often), if they come across a nasty tabloid with her pic on the front, she goes and turns every one of the magazines over so the cover no longer shows and then tells the kids it’s all better now"
Funny, I do the same thing when I'm at the grocery store with MY kids!
Posted by: HATEHATE | November 3, 2009 2:59 PM
Hayden: Please enlighten us on what Jon did that he should be in jail for? Has he beaten a kid on camera? Has he lied in churches? (well, yeah, he did that too). Does he carry around a "weapon" in his car so he can smack a child if they get out of line?
Kate NEEDS sheeple like you. Please feed your kids PB&J everyday and send Kate all your "love" so that she can get pedicures.
Posted by: TVsnark | November 3, 2009 3:09 PM
K8 can't make it to church ?
What happened to "CAN-DO K8" ??
Also, to add to Carolina's post:
I would bet $$$ that K8 made the kids feel guilty about the show not continuing and also blamed Jon for it:
If we don't do the show, we can't go on any more nice trips or have nice things. See how mean Daddy is for saying you can't film any more?? etc, etc. She is SO manipulative and quite a bully , I might add.
Posted by: HATEKATE | November 3, 2009 3:18 PM
Drum roll please......99 UM'S. she almost made it!! :p
Apparently Kate doesn't have future employment inked yet... so sad....
How did you count them? That's fantastic. Is this a fact-checked number that we can rely on? Ha. Thanks. Z
Posted by: aggiemom 09 12 14 | November 3, 2009 3:25 PM
Dee,
She did start the whole freebie thing the minute she was pregnant, I read where they both (I'm sure Kate was the ring leader) were looking to profit off these poor children. They will one day see that. Its sad to me and to most normal people, she says she speaks with integrity and grace, what about living that way. She sells herself and her kids out in a heartbeat, she's ungrateful and always said the fans annoyed her. Does she not realize what kept her on TV. She only says she appreciates them now, for PR reasons and I'm sure she was coached to say it. So what kind of mother sets an example like that for her kids. She doesn't get it, therefore will continue to do this. Her so called lessons shes learned are only how to profit off of all this. Its ridiculous
Posted by: kad | November 3, 2009 3:38 PM
Z,
I haven't watched the show in months, but have become a faithful reader of your blog. I am so happy you see Jon and Kate for who they really are and you don't pander to them like almost everyone else in the press/tv seem to do.
My question is this---do you really think Jon will continue to keep the kids off of TLC or do you think he'll give in and (god forbid) they'll be back on with Kate? Jon seems like a loose cannon, so who knows, but would love your opinion.
He is stuck by his guns pretty long. But I think the pressure is withering, and I would guess that he will buckle at some point. It he does, that will be sad. But I kind of expect it, given what we know of his nature. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Tate | November 3, 2009 3:41 PM
I predict the fall for Kate (were watching it happen)will be a spectacular crash and burn. The negative Karma she has built around herself is going to eat her alive.
....and to those who "admire" Kate. Get some therapy please.
Posted by: LouieNCanton | November 3, 2009 3:42 PM
Regarding the issue of not going to church now, maybe it is just as well. Kate threw away any projects the kids made at Sunday School and that had to hurt the childrens' feelings.
You can see this on the TLC web site in the lost webisodes of J&K. http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-lost-webisodes/
She could have a bulletin board in the play room where these things could be displayed for a week, then discreetly taken away. But no, she has to show her superiority and throw the items away as soon as she gets home.
Posted by: tj | November 3, 2009 3:57 PM
Just wondering why Steve the bodyguard was in the room. Was anyone there a threat to Kate?
She says she needs to return safely to her children...then she'd better take those darn shoes off. In the 'Nat and Kate go shopping' segment I notice she can hardly walk on those stilts. She's gonna break her neck one of these days.
Posted by: Chrysee | November 3, 2009 4:14 PM
My favorite moment in the interview. Kate said that she had been gone a lot and at some point she ~noticed~ that Jon was not happy. It's nice that she noticed. I question why the "journalist" let that go without any follow up questions. If I ~noticed~ that my husband was unhappy I would drop everything and fix my marriage.
Posted by: Jen D | November 3, 2009 4:16 PM
This whole train wreck is on it's way to LA.
They won't get back together but TLC will take Jon back ($$$) and the new show will be about these dirt bags ditching PA, settling in LA and parenting while divorced.
My prediction. And the body guard thing; puleeeez! Anne had such a good point. Why isn't there one with the kids while she's in LA?
Posted by: boo | November 3, 2009 4:52 PM
Jon tweeted:
Kate even slipped last night and admitted we split up a year ago! Though she claims she "didn't remember" who called it quits.. Hey at least she said "didn't remember" instead of lieing.
Posted by: karen | November 3, 2009 4:53 PM
If Jon does buckle and allows the kids to be filmed, I wonder if that could resurrect Kate's career? Or are most people getting sick of her and all these fake tears will drive a lot of people away. I think if Jon does give in and allow them to be filmed, it can only be good for Kate. That makes me nuts. This woman needs to go far, far away.
Posted by: Barbara | November 3, 2009 4:59 PM
Hey all you bloggers out there.
Looks from a google standpoint that TLC has some major mopping up to do. Tlc never underestimate parents~~we have been there, done that, and have the tshirt. This was not good all the way around.
Kate:her story sure did not play out the way the KOOL AIDE CAMP anticipated. I cannot find anything positive on the internet. Sorry Kate you win some you lose some.
I will see ya'll tomorrow. Z on TV is the best and we have alot more TV work ahead of us as we forge ahead.
TLC might want to ask some of the sponsors for sanitizer...this just made a mess messier...but it put it in perspective for me.
THERE IS NOTHING KATE WON'T DO FOR TLC. NOTHING.
Hi Irene, Thanks for surveying the Web for reaction. Z
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 5:29 PM
Z.. I think you're going to need to hire yourself an assistant pretty soon. You have all of the regulars from at least two of the busiest blogs here, now.
Just remember, you do it all for the kids!!
All for the kids. Some people said I did to become a celebrity, but I just laugh at that. I did it all for the kids. But, hey, I noticed this ring the other day, and i was thinking it was perfect... Seriously, I will never be able to afford an assistant. Just more caffeine and jangled nerves -- that's my future. Ha. Z
Posted by: Free the Gosselin 8 | November 3, 2009 5:32 PM
Z & fellow bloggers: Does anyone know if Kate has ever refuted Jon's or Kevin & Jodi's assertions that she essentially gave Jon his walking papers BEFORE his alleged affair/s? While they all have mentioned this event more than once, Kate has never been asked about it as far as I can tell, and this leads me to believe that this issue is on Kate's no fly zone during her "interviews". Please set me straight of I have missed something.
Posted by: Kk | November 3, 2009 5:32 PM
At one time you could google "The Wayback machine" and type in www.sixgosselins.com. Not to be confused with the current sixgosselins. Anyway, you could access the old Gosselin begging website which clearly shows J&K plus Mady and Cara because Kate was still in her pregnancy. They had a list of things they needed, including a van to fit all 10 of them. They also repeated how difficult "financially" Jon's dad's death was for them and they hoped the twins could handle things. At one point they also spoke of their little house and how they had no room. They hoped God would help them find bigger accommodations (Hint: God are you reading our blog).You know, just all the normal things we all do when we are pregnant. It was updated weekly (I think) but there were a lot of updates and a lot of stuff they needed. It went up to 2008 I believe the same year they purchased the big house. It was eye opening to say the least. Made me see them in a whole new light.
Posted by: jersey | November 3, 2009 5:32 PM
Note to TLC...
The soft lens did not make the lies any less noticeable.
Good term for it. Thanks, Chrysee. Z
Posted by: Chrysee | November 3, 2009 5:35 PM
In response to tj that posted the link to The Lost Webisodes in which Kate throws the kids' artwork in the trash - this is what we are talking about! This is a perfect example of Kate in relation to her children! She even stuffs a box on top of their artwork to ensure that the artwork won't resurface. This is our loving mother figure. Can you imagine the kids viewing this? They would be heartbroken and undoubtedly feel shame. Kate has no concept whatsoever of other people's feelings, not even her children's. She is thoroughly clueless. She has to fabricate and lie because she has nothing genuine inside of her, except contempt.
Posted by: Peg | November 3, 2009 5:37 PM
What I think was interesting was the part about how the kids apparently dictate if the cameras stay or go. Kate says if they want the cameras gone, they can absolutely be gone. (She spoke in hyperbole so as to demonstrate the truthfulness of her claim, but I can't remember exactly what she said.)
Then TLC/NBC showed a clip of Kate shooing the cameras away and the kids saying goodbye.
But I remember the show the clip was from. It was Jon's surprise birthday party, and Kate said the cameras had to go because if he knew the crew was there, something momentous was going on and the surprise would be ruined.
So they didn't leave for the kids. They left for Kate.
What weird clip to throw in there. It demonstrates the exact opposite of what she was saying.
,i> Yikes. Isn't that strange! Thanks. Z
Posted by: Claire | November 3, 2009 5:41 PM
I didn't watch the beginning of the episode, in which Kate let slip that Jon and she split up a year ago, but I find it shocking that TLC allowed that to be aired. I would have thought that since TLC did everything in their power to cover up their crumbling marriage (until they were forced to own up to it due to media coverage), that they would have edited out that segment of the interview. It reveals to me how scripted this reality show has been, and I can't believe that the interviewer didn't question this.
I don't think TLC or Kkate can keep all the stories she has spun straight. You are right about Morales. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Karen | November 3, 2009 5:52 PM
I am on the verge of feeling sorry for her....she has no clue and probably never will have. Kate is beyond reasoning, because she can't reason...about anything in her life at this point....to me, she is a hopeless human being...I just bite another nail and say " what the hell".
Posted by: Misty | November 3, 2009 6:21 PM
Quite a few posters ask why Morales did not question some of Kate's answers.
Unless TLC & NBC can give exact proof to the contrary, I believe that this "brutally honest interview" was planned and conducted the same way that many sit-downs with a political candidate is done.
This is my scenario:
First, TLC's interns scrolled the blogs for "hot" topics regarding Kate. These possible topics were then sent to NBC & Morales.
Then, NBC handed TLC & Kate a list of possible topics/questions and asked to pick the ones they liked. Then, Kate and her TLC publicist sat and typed out all her answers to be memorized. Probably "wait for tears" were put in parenthesis, just as "wait for applause" is put in political speeches.
Each question of course would have to be in order, so not to confuse the woman who has stated how she is a "natural" for tv talk shows.
So, there is no way in hell that Morales could shift from the questions and throw in an ad-libbed one. Kate wouldn't have known what to do.
I'm also sure that Kate & the publicist stood in front a mirror and practiced all the sideways looks & when to insert long sighs.
Hey, I could be wrong about all this, but I won't admit it until TLC & NBC say this interview as not completely scripted. If it was in fact supposed to be "brutally honest", then why wasn't it done live with questions from an audience?
After all, Jon sat on a stage with the ex-TLC Rabbi and spoke off the cuff. See, that's what gets Jon in trouble, he doesn't have a script to follow. He might be a moron, but at least he lets us see he is a moron.
Kate Gosselin will NEVER allow herself to be seen as her true self. Actually, I doubt she even knows who she is, since she has fabricated a fake woman and now believes all her own hype.
"Brutally honest," was the term from Morales that I found insulting to our intelligence as well. And while I should probably not admit it, I did laugh at your "moron" line about Jon. Thanks. Z
Posted by: marieE | November 3, 2009 6:27 PM
Hey, Kate...
When asked why you need security, you gave your explanation that you are now hated so much that you need protection, so you can come home safely to your kids.
Yes, yes, YES.. we all know your every waking minute is spent only thinking of your kids. We got that.
So, my question... if you are hated so much, don't you feel that there might be some nut out there who would love to hurt you by doing something to one of your children? Not every crazed person aims his venom directly at the object of that hate. They go around the back and target a loved one to really hurt that hated person.
You have a security shadow who even carries your shopping bags. You are also usually accompanied by a TLC rep and as you have said, you were once followed by 18 cars full of P-People (eyeroll). Then, we flash to the school bus stop and see a nanny with all 8 of your children. NO bodyguards, just one woman with all your children.
So, Kate, maybe you should really THANK the P-People who hang around the bus stop, since they are the only ones who might.. MIGHT.. step in if someone tried to harm one of your kids.
If I were in your situation of being hated so very much (your words), and like last week, BOTH myself and the daddy were in CA, I would have a security person IN MY HOUSE with those children and the one nanny.
But, no, Kate, that's not what is important I guess. You need a security man at your side while you sit in a studio doing interviews and shop at NYC and CA stores and pull out your chair at fancy restaurants. All the while, your kids are in zoom lenses of cameras, even in their own front yard.
Hey, Kate.. how do you know all those supposed P-People are authentic? How do you know one of those people isn't a crazed nut or pedophile taking pics of your children?
I mean, after all, you have proven its easy to be someone you aren't. Sickos can do that just as easily.
Stop giving lip service about everything you do "for my kids". Its really worn thin, believe me. You said you had "failed" at your marriage, that is true. But, you have and still continue to fail as a protective parent.
Posted by: marieE | November 3, 2009 6:48 PM
Chrysee, GREAT comment ( about the soft lens)
Posted by: HATEKATE | November 3, 2009 6:50 PM
Z,
I haven't watched the show in months, but have become a faithful reader of your blog. I am so happy you see Jon and Kate for who they really are and you don't pander to them like almost everyone else in the press/tv seem to do.
My question is this---do you really think Jon will continue to keep the kids off of TLC or do you think he'll give in and (god forbid) they'll be back on with Kate? Jon seems like a loose cannon, so who knows, but would love your opinion.
He is stuck by his guns pretty long. But I think the pressure is withering, and I would guess that he will buckle at some point. It he does, that will be sad. But I kind of expect it, given what we know of his nature. Thanks. Z
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Hey, as long as he sticks by the sage advice and remains friends with Rabbi Shumley, I think Jon has a chance and will NOT expose his children any more.
Rabbi Shumley is quite adamant (and rightly so) about the lifelong damage the "fame spotlight" can inflict on innocent children.
I vote for Jon not succumbing - I really think he will do something in IT>
(He's already turned down the best shows on TV for "fun" -- Amazing Race and Survivor. I DO love AR!!) :)
If he can do that, I believe he will stick to his guns. Good for him.
(also, I see a lot of people do not realize that Jon is apologizing because it is the right thing to do and not for any selfish gain. If you read the Bible, you understand that. But alot of people just want to criticize because they don't read and understand what true contrition is).
Posted by: Jackie | November 3, 2009 7:05 PM
Hey... not sure if many of you heard this tidbit....Reported by a state trooper to TMZ.com.
Seems the Mom who laid on bed rest for 30 weeks and would never put anything in her mouth to harm her unborn children..etc..etc..etc......
.. was stopped last week in her SUV for speeding with her children in the car. Seems she was going 15 miles over the speed limit and going about 70 mph.
She was cited and has already paid the $109.50 fee.
Hmmm, bed rest and nothing harmful to eat so her babies can be born healthy and safe.
But, I guess once they are born and aren't cute little babies anymore, all bets are off! Hit that gas pedal!
But, remember.. "its all for my kids"
Posted by: marieE | November 3, 2009 7:06 PM
Hey Z....
Did you know you were quoted in an article by THE MERCURY, which serves the Pottstown PA area?
Quoted was your article and one of the Newark Star Ledger's article about last night's brutally honest interview.
Posted by: marieE | November 3, 2009 7:20 PM
Chrysee,
Thanks for that comment soft lens that captured it. What was that to give Kate more ambience. It was kind of like an interview in the dark, I didn't care for the lighting. So that we would not question the softball questions I guess.
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 7:27 PM
Kate is truly living in her own make believe world and for whatever reason is unable to see herself and her actions as they really are.
The whole interview last night was one of contradictions, lies, and half-truths --- all done for self promotion and in the name of cementing Kate's perception of herself (certainly not the public's view of her!).
I thought it was fitting that the end of the hour showed her with fans. Her history with fans is one of a cold, rude, biotch. At the end of last nite's 'performance' she was fawning over a young girl and her mother -- hardly the normal Kate that is seen out and about or whose history is of a friendly person! It was Kate 'performing' - just as she did in the interview.
I thought the show last night was boring and almost laughable if it hadn't been so pitiful. Here is a woman who just doesn't get it - and never will.
Posted by: bbsak | November 3, 2009 7:45 PM
Radaronline says 3.8 million for Monday's show. Can you confirm?
Posted by: Z Fan | November 3, 2009 7:59 PM
May I also tell Chrysee that I enjoyed her soft lens comment. Thank you for the chuckle!
Posted by: Peg | November 3, 2009 8:08 PM
This is pitiful. 3RD RATE TABLOID spokesman radar for TLC has released that "Kate had soldiered without...3.8 million viewers...up" Gag me with a gold plated high heel.
You know I love it, Tlc is now following suit and introducing the Hayes Family show Table for 12...........Hmm.....
My response, 'Starlight, star bright 1st star I see tonight, wish I may, wish I might have the wish I wish tonight...Oh I am sorry ya'll do not want to know what I wish...it can't be published here.
She wins with bad press, she wins with good press. Am I missing something here?
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 8:13 PM
Irene,
So if that is true J&K ratings are up slightly. That can't be good. I saw that in a link someone sent on facebook. Hope Z can confirm it is not true. Radaronline numbers are not always right are they?
Posted by: Sherry T. | November 3, 2009 8:26 PM
Mr. "Z" - thank you so much for your expose' on the TLC Kate story/show.
I am quite disappointed in Ms. Morales and her missed opportunities to really ferret out some key information.
Such as, when Kate said (admitted - or as Jon now says "let it slip") that the marriage was, indeed, "over" more than a year ago -- Natalie should have asked her right then and there about why they continued filming and taking trips and going to churches asking for handouts and selling pictures of their children.
Why did she lie to her children and the viewing public for a YEAR!
This is the one question I would like asked...and answered.
Why did Kate and TLC (and even Jon) lie to everyone -- and what part of that is appropriate to film them taking all manner of lavish trips and romping around their new "mansion" getting tens of thousands of dollars in freebies (appliances, furnishings, "going green" solar panels and huge tax breaks, etc., etc.)
What part about LYING to the viewing public is "right" and "justifiable"?
I want to know and hear her answer.
Because if she says one more time "it is for the kids", then I would like to know how she justifies LYING "for the kids"
So....is "stealing" for your children ok, too?
(which is essentially what these people did)
How could a REAL JOURNALIST not ask that very KEY question?
It's not like they split up just days before the interview -- it's been OVER A YEAR!
Thanks!!
I think Kate is losing track of her lies, and I don't think Monday's interview did her any good in terms of winning back former fans. Your questions about Morales are on the money. Thanks for these comments. Z
Posted by: TM | November 3, 2009 8:41 PM
New topic at GWOP
http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/2009/11/lies-kate-has-told-jons-lies-also.html
Posted by: xsandlapper | November 3, 2009 8:53 PM
Kate, in her own words from last nights show.
(Real Stuff too) Thank you Tivo.
1."It is so unthinkable about me, when I think about it, it is unthinkable".
2. "all money's spent have been spent on household, family, mortgage, utilities, family things"
3. "I think I was on alone on a plane coming home from somewhere. I looked at him, he looked at me and we realized we were two different people."
4. "From my viewpoint, Had we never done this show, we would have been struggling. Me as a nurse, him in IT with very little money, that would have gotten the best of us, sooner rather than later:"
5. "Our goals changed. Our visions changed. MY GOALS, didn't change".
6. "I still wake up every day, Every day......gulp, gulp gulp, "I think it will be the old Jon".
Natalie Morales: "You think it will be the old Jon"?
Kate: "My kids say it"
7. Kate says they told the 5 year olds when they woke up from their nap that she and Jon were getting a divorce and the "tups" response: "Okay, what's for a snack" Yet they are all so devastated about the camera crew and TLC not being in the house anymore.
There is so much more. Other than all the "um's", "for my kids", "doing the best that I can", "it's my income", and all the other pursed, paused and protracted responses, me thinks that Kate may have another interview to REALLY be Kate for another ratings boost, paycheck and more camera time.
My thought is that Kate wants to star in the next franchise of the "Real Housewives of Wernersville" I think she'll give NeNee a run for her money.
Posted by: Kelly | November 3, 2009 9:28 PM
I have a new idea for Kate's next TLC show. "Cake Boss". She can bake the same fourth of July cake and yell at all the kids, Jon, the hired help and still earn a paycheck.
Posted by: Kelly | November 3, 2009 9:57 PM
I'm just throwing this out there, but at this point I don't think the ratings matter. I haven't watched in awhile, but I don't know how any television executive could use some special interview as a reliable gauge of future ratings for a Kate-only show.
We know Kate is going to use those well-manicured fingernails to keep clawing her way back into the spotlight at least for a few more months. Which is fine with me. The more she talks the crazier she sounds and the more she ensures that she'll never get a respectable job in the entertainment industry again. Kate seemed a lot smarter when she was only surrounded by five year olds.
I also think all this attention and Kate's unwillingness/inability to address the issues with her children will ultimately be good for the movement to regulate children on reality tv. If Kate showed any real concern and some proactive measures to make sure her children had not been harmed by the filming she would be much more sympathetic. But Kate hasn't done anything at all, making her the shining example of "crazy stage parent meets reality tv." Helllllooo, regulations!
So, while I'm not encouraging people to start watching (and from experience, life is better when you leave the Kate-spectating to Z), if you're enjoying this hot mess embarrass herself over and over and over again, enjoy. In a year or so we'll be saying "Kate who?" and Kate will be back to begging for "love offerings."
Posted by: Suzi J. | November 3, 2009 10:11 PM
The comment TM made is almost exactly how I look at this whole mess of a mess.
I just am so drained on these folks I am not thinking straight. For the sake of Kate, I am so glad I did not watch Monday because if I had seen that episode in it's entirety I probably would have done something impulsive like driving all night to pick up Sherry T. We would head straight thru drive all night just to see Kate walk done the Rodeo Drive of Reading, Pennsylvania. Sherry and I would give Kate a star on the sidewalk the the town square. Then when she walks in her golden high heels to adore our gift we would trip her. Since Z is the best we would give Baltimore Sun exclusive rights to photograph it & cover the story. Free of charge!!!!
I just do not know. I am a stubborn, hard headed &independant woman but I have met my match with Kate...she takes the High road to new destinations every week.
Kate let me spoil your unsuspecting ego~~~ this really is not a compliment.
We need to change our angle bloggers. "It is all about Kate" instead of "It's all about my kids"
i.e. Kate would die for Kate. Kate breathes for Kate. Kate went on bedrest for either 10,20,30 weeks for Kate. Kate bought the mansion, cars, and bodyguards for Kate. Most of all she exaggerates her exagerations for Kate!!!!!!
Posted by: Irene | November 3, 2009 10:31 PM
If TLC only picked up 800,000 viewers with all the hype including the sneak-peak promotional spot on the Today show the morning of the interview, that's hardly anything to boast about. Let's see where the ratings are now that TLC has run out of Kate confessionals, LOLS.
Posted by: Darcy | November 3, 2009 11:57 PM
Hello Z,
I have to say. I really feel bad for Uncle Kevin and Aunt Jodi. Kate completely trashed and disowned them like they meant nothing. It was clear from preivous episodes that the kids loved Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin. Uncle Kevin would say hello to each of the children by their name.
What stood out to me during the interview was when Kate described how her brother was out to cash in. For Kate to bring up the money issue, makes her look like a selfish, greedy and insensitive person. Her brother appeared on the show many times and I really enjoyed those episodes. I really felt that it made the show more realistic to the public. It gave me a sense of normalcy and a familiar feeling that I could relate to with my own family.
Kate took those relatives away from her children. One day they were there and the next day they were gone and it happened because I believe Kate felt as if they were going to take some of her money and attention. I truly do not believe that Kevin was ever out to hurt her. I heard that she stopped talking to them because they were trying to cash in. It is really sad when you have these children who love their Aunt and Uncle and all of a sudden their gone.
She is a very ugly person.
Let me just say this. If I had a show such as the Gosselins, I would love to have my family participate. In fact, I would make sure that they were compensated somehow. What is wrong with that? Many of us have families that we care very much for. I just cannot understand how she could be so greedy and not allow her brother to take any credit. She is disgusting. Who is she loyal too? She would rather have that small circle of people that she was describing in the interview than all of the loving family and friends she once had. She made herself sound like she did not want any other hands in the pot except for hers. I can just picture it now, someone placing there hand over the pot and Kate slapping it. This is exactly how I picture Kate Gosselin. EWWWW!
Posted by: cbt | November 4, 2009 1:47 AM
We can never really know for sure whether she had a relationship with Steve or not, only her and Steve know that for sure and God. It does seem suspicious that he's still around in light of the allegations, and that she would cite him as one of the 6 people she most trusts seems sad. I mean she didn't even include her kids.
Though she might have originally did it all for the kids, I don't believe anyone who watched the last two seasons have any illusions that this was for the kids. It was for fame and fortune.
We've seen examples of this before though. Anna Nicole pushed her family away listening to the advice of her close advisors, in the end she died. Michael Jackson was isolated by his handlers, alienated from his family and likewise those same handlers ultimately led to his death. I"m most worried about Kate, I"m seeing a pattern in her answers and attitudes that somewhat mirrors these past celebrities. She doesn't have the talent of Michael Jackson, and any ideals of a career in movies or television are fanciful. She needs counseling now before its too late. As tragic as the situation is, it would be far more tragic should she end up as Anna Nicole or Michael.
She needs to turn back to what's really important. Family is the atomic unit of society. Without it we are really nothing.
She needs to heal the relationship with her parents, her siblings, and her friends. Her and Jon need to forgive one another and move forward whether that is together or separate they must forgive.
I fear that this tragedy may not yet be over unless someone truly steps in and helps Kate who I believe seems to have an unrealistic expectation of life now having been in the limelight for 5 years.
Posted by: John in NC | November 4, 2009 6:00 AM
Just saw the rerun of her story and agree NBC was on board to keep the Kate lie/scam alive. The clip they ran of Kate shooing the cameraman out was from Jon's birthday episode, she telling the cameras to leave so Jon wouldn't be tipped off about his trip to Florida Keys, which was donated, not purchased by Kate. NBC posted the teaser of Natale asking Kate who ended the marriage and when and then had Kate ramble on and not answer the question. What NBC did was pose the questions viewers wanted answered and then try to scam the viewers into believing these were being answered. The only thing I got from this interview was more disgust for journalists who shed their intergrity for ratings.
Posted by: joanne | November 4, 2009 7:03 AM
In the Natalie Morales interview (part 4 of 5 on YouTube):
Natalie: You don't even let them (the kids) say the word paparazzi, why not?
Kate: Because it's not normal. A five-year old should not know the word paparazzi. That's just weird...
Natalie: Yet they do. And why do they know the word paparazzi?
Kate: Um, not by my doing, I can tell you that.
School Days Episode from Oct. 12, 2009 (part 3 of 3 on YouTube - at end):
Kate is sitting at the table with all of the kids:
Kate: Everything went as planned. I think we foiled the plans of the paparazzi to a degree and that made me very happy.
Posted by: Peg | November 4, 2009 9:32 AM
Gee, the fans worship Kate for some reason despite the fact that the majority of mothers and even more Americans cannot relate with her. I’m a mother myself and I don’t understand most of the things she does or make justification for. For example, I don’t understand why she must be in full make, hair coiffed, heels when she is only going back home after taking the children to the bus stop—I know this and saw it on youtube as well because they were photographed at the bus stop just like every day and TLC was filming that day as well and made an espied out of that ( don’t remember the title) where she was supposedly cleaning the twins’ room for three hours. I personally think she does it for the paps or just enjoy the attention of being photographed. That must be draining on the children to be endlessly photographed and the parents are not doing anything to protect them. Why not cover up the fence or get a taller fence in front of their house?
I implore you to watch one particular webisode where she throws away the artwork the tups made at Sunday school. It’s available on TLC’s website. I think that is just heartless and cold. I do not care if they do it every Sunday---they were proud of their artwork and they should be encouraged and prided for that. I would have hung them up then put them away in a box after a while. The size of their hands is captured forever on a paper plate and that is a cherished memory. The same thing where she painted over Alexis’s artwork because she just didn’t like it. WHAT MOTHER DOES THAT? You guys are looking through rose-colored glasses and need to wake up. No mother will go on countless TV interviews (I lost count) despite saying she is taking the high road then divulge her children’s reactions, which should have been kept private and is no one’s business and three photo spreads in People Magazine in what 6 months? Doesn’t she know how to keep boundaries regarding the privacy and respect of her children? She is peddling her story to anyone who will listen and I think she is repeatedly telling it for herself so it will somehow sound like it’s the truth. It’s akin to a child repeating ‘I didn’t do it. I didn’t do it’ throughout the day when he really did it.
This show was a fraud from the beginning, I don’t understand why anyone can stand behind it, and support the fake ideal family TLC, Kate, and Jon were trying to sell for profit.
Posted by: LB | November 4, 2009 11:30 AM
Thanks for picking up on that Peg. Because Kate sat at the kitchen table with her kids talking about the paparazzi on the episode right before Kate: her story.
So, I guess it was her evil twin that was talking to the kids about the Paparazzi.
Unbelievable good catch.
Posted by: Irene | November 4, 2009 11:45 AM
My god!, does anyone see what this woman is doing?. She has a great lawyer, pour on the water works, get other mothers sympathy. Say you are a single mother raising kids, etc etc, which is a crock. She has nannys, and assistants and is on book tours, wow thats a rough life for a single mother.
As in any divorce at times one person trys to accuse the other of many things, abuse, infidelity etc etc, but most times when the truth comes out its the other way around. Her waterworks show was just over the top, and if anyone takes pity or sympathy on her they need to get a life. Having gone through divorce hearings and custody hearings ive seen first had what a bitter woman or a jilked husband can do and say and say its FACT.
Posted by: Ken W. | November 4, 2009 1:09 PM
You hit the nail on the head. First, thank you for watching this mess so I didn't have to. Second, NBC is obviously desperate for income if they are willing to sink to Kate's and TLC's level like this. I hope Ms. Morales was given at least a few moments to kiss her credibility goodbye forever.
You have to be purposefully ignorant to believe anything that Ms. Gosselin says at this point. As to never being "forced" to put her children in harm's way -- that wasn't the question. The question was "would you willingly put them in harm's way or make choices that cause them to suffer?" The answer is "Yes!" Because she has and would continued to have made them film if Jon hadn't called a halt to it.
Any parent who saw Kate place a feverish, vomiting Joel onto a cold hard laundry room floor, walk out, turn off the lights and shut the door, leaving him alone there -- knew all they needed to know about this "mom." Heartless, cold, grasping. She might have laid her lazy butt on bedrest for 30 weeks, but she couldn't be bothered to help her sick child in his time of need.
Or if you happened to see the time poor Colin got gum on his "lovey" and Kate flipped out and threatened to throw it away while he cried pitifully. It broke my heart. That's a nightmare mother, and all she deserves is scorn and derision.
Posted by: Mary Jane | November 4, 2009 2:32 PM
Good catch Peg. What a liar... As if she's never uttered the word paparazzi.
"Fib # 5,607" on the clapboard scene slate.
You know, TLC could cash in on her again....they could do about three more hour-long specials showing all the lies Kate has told. She'd better watch her back. TLC doesn't seem to show much compassion going by what they're doing to Jon and they could do it to her, too. Of course they'd incriminate themselves as well but their ratings would soar and that's all they're really after.
Posted by: Chrysee | November 4, 2009 2:38 PM
Am I nuts, or wasn't there a college education promised to each of the children IMMEDIATELY after their birth?
I can't remember who arranged it, but I'm sure I read it in one of their local papers that covered the birth — long before the show and its constant begging.
It would be interesting to see if that's true; then, Jon and Kate couldn't even use the "it's for their college education!" argument in any form, when speaking about the show's income.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: kay | November 4, 2009 3:01 PM
Kay yes as I recall the Governor set up MPACT accounts for the 6 Hershey's kisses.
I purchased one for my 2 year old. For $140 month over 10 years Trent can go to 3 years community college and 2 years 4 year institution. To put that in perspective for the tups @ $16,800 each it would cost about 120,000 investment on the parents and donors part. Well guess what for the Gosselins High Road to Riches that is equivalent to 2 episodes? out of over 100 episodes done.
Every state has these programs. I recall the governor set them up because I sent a money order to one. I do not think the Governor prepaid it.
Posted by: Irene | November 4, 2009 4:52 PM
Z, add my name to your fan club. What is SO annoying is how she is (successfully) sold as credible and loveable when she is a blatantly self-serving narcissist.
Hi Annabelle: I could not agree more with your assessment of Kate. Thanks. Z
Posted by: Annabelle | November 4, 2009 4:52 PM
Kay,
From what I have read, 529 funds were set up - by the state - for each tup ( not sure about Mady and Cara)and people could contribute to them if they wanted. I don't think they were fully funded, however.
That said, Jon and K8 should have more than enough for the kids' college funds by now.
Posted by: HATEKATE | November 4, 2009 5:17 PM
I agree with the comment about KG attending church services w/the kids that is sooo ridiculous she can sit there and bare face lie I mean c'mon the women has no problem trapesing all over America with the kids but she cannot attend services, when that is what all her books are based on???...Also why don't the Kate lovers of America check Ms G's Schedule, could it be that Kate has not been with the kids cause she is never home, my bet would be a big OH YEA!!!!!!
Posted by: sue | November 7, 2009 11:52 AM
Sheesh. Z any chance you would consider moving up to Canada? AT LAST a honest journalist. Thanks for writing about this monster. Thanks for not being a wuss. Thanks for being you. I found you about 2hours ago. Your bloggers are amazing and respectful of others opinion. WOW! I'm thinking how you could clear up a few lies from our politicians here in Toronto. Great to see how you separate the "wheat from the chaff." I hope your viewers continue to see what a gem you are. YOU GUYS are so lucky to have Z!
Love from Canada
Posted by: Teresa | November 11, 2009 2:44 AM
Kate's a phony, but , as in the words of Berman (re: Holly Golightly) : "she isn't a phony because she’s a REAL phony".
She really believes her crap.
So, in that regard, she is as good a person as she CAN be (in her mind) ergo, interview with this Morales was the best she could give.
As for Jon,... well...: It's useful being top banana in the shock department.".
(with thanks to Truman C)
Posted by: Anonymous | November 18, 2009 10:05 PM