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November 7, 2009

A poll: What are you 'favorite' Jon & Kate moments?

TLC is promoting Monday night's clip-job, cut-and-paste hour of video scraps as a special evening of nostalgia with Kate Gosselin.

Here's the way TLC describes it: "Kate takes a walk down memory lane as she looks back at viewers' favorite moments from Jon & Kate plus 8 and helps the audience countdown some of the best moments on the show."

So, these are going to be the "viewers' favorite moments," huh? How about the viewers who regularly visit this blog? What are your "favorite" moments?

In the name of deconstructing this series that has so embraced duplicity, let's have a Z on TV poll of your favorite mock moments -- moments that show the Gosselin parents for what they really are.

In fairness, we will also accept genuine favorite moments -- because I know many bloggers here once really liked this show and do have some fond memories.

Either way -- genuine or mock -- is fine. Just be clear which it is. Heck, you can have one of each.


Nominations for favorite or "favorite" moments are accepted until 9 p.m. Monday (ET) when TLC airs the laundered and sanitized list with Kate as emcee.

Let the nominations begin.

Posted by David Zurawik at 4:28 PM | | Comments (155)
        

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One of my favorite moments was The Corn Maze episode. Jon & Kate took the children to pick out a pumpkin. During the show Aaden strayed away from the family. You could see Kate counting heads and Jon scrambling through to find Aaden. He comes up behind him and scares him. One of the better moments that sticks in my mind.

Oh, Z you are a maverick!

This is going to be better than any SNL skit could/would try to do.

Thanks and we will not let you down.

My 1st of 100 favorite moments is when Kate explains in interiews she is a mom 1st~ I can only think that she is a tv crackup, ghost author, talk show/tabloid speaker of the High road then heck peckin' high fallootin' rootin's tooten' wife....then in her spare moments she is a mom 4th. And, that is on a day when she hasnt lost her mind 1st!

My favorite episode will the the announcement that this trainwreck has come to an end once and for all.

hey kate would you stop with all this drama this is your family that you wanna keep together right??? If you do just make up with jon its not that hard

How about the episode where Kate was too busy picking out beds to tend to her son whose bowels were impacted?

My "favorite" episode was the sextuplets' fifth birthday party,. It was a TLC set-up and took place one week AFTER the kids turned five. Kate was strutting around a nearly empty pavilion, bossing around the few guests who actually showed up, and bossing Jon around, too, of course. As far as I can remember, Kate had not one friend or relative in attendance, and she loudly pointed out the "papparazzi"--a few guys in the bushes across the way taking pictures. Yep, Kate at her best!

I liked all of them before Jon started putting on the rolling of the eyes and disgusted look .

My favorite episodes are the "backyard campout" episode (The one w/ Jon & Kate) & the "Giving Back" episode. They're just really cute : ) Although I did't want the show to end, I realized that was selfish. Those kids are awesome but they don't need to be in the spotlight, at least the way they are now. Maybe later on after all of this bad media/divorce they could do a special or something, but right now just truly isn't a good time to film because the kids will have to relive it when they get older & watch everything.

I'm going to go for one of the classics. The new house intro and "Under penalty of severeness!"

Love that. I'm still waiting for a moment in real life where I can use it!

Kate screaming at Jon in ToyrsRUs or Kate screaming at Jon and following him around the house as he tries to hang the doors back up. She is upset because he put a movie in the VCR for the kids to fall asleep to.

I have another "favorite" episode: the one where Jon, Kate and all eight were at the furniture store, so that Kate could pick out free product placement bunk beds for the kids. She whined and took plenty of time in choosing, all the while fussing at Jon to control the kids. Collin was crying in pain, due to constipation, so Jon took him out to the van, manually removed the impacted feces, then came back into the store and demonstrated for Kate and the cameras how he used two fingers to get the job done. It's a moment destined to go down in Gosselin history. Just ask Collin in a few years how many of his friends bring it up to him!

#2 in season 1 Jon carves pumpkins with the kids in the garage.
He was doing a good job with the kids, having fun.
High road taker Kate was about to have a panic attack because of the mess. She takes over the scene, ( she must always be the center of the northern hemisphere ) and cleans up the mess.

Oh, memory lane...this is gonna be fun.

My favorite episode would be the toys r us shopping trip where Kate treated Jon like a 2 year old. Humiliated herself degraded her husband and showed all her children exactly how to treat daddy.... So awesome!

The scarriest part is the "flock" of women who have stood by her and claim her as their idol.
I say to their husbands... RUN AND DONT LOOK BACK!

My favourite moment was when Jon looked the camera in the eye and said there may not be a 5th season. Kate got all squirmy and started talking about having a lot of ironing to do, she looking scared he was about to drop the bomb right there and then on their scam marriage. Good times.

Whichever is their FINAL one.

Jon and Kate have BOTH destroyed "favorite" moments. What the heck... Kate's going down memory lane? A little too late I'd say. Might be a teaching moment for both of them to see what they both have totally imploded in front of the public.
Neither one is an angel for sure and I am not quite sure what the point of the show is.

My favorite moment is when they were walking down the Yellow Brick Road singing, "Follow The Yellow Brick Road" and hopscotching and skipping along the way and they finally got to meet the Wizard of Oz. Oh wait, I'm wrong again. That was a different show.

I will watch the show when it gets real, like when the IRS agent knocks on their door with an arrest warrant. Now that would be television worth watching.

I agree with several other posters who said the final show will be the most memorable. There were some cute shows in the past, but I can't even think of them now without seeing what Kate and Jon have become. The day they leave will be the best episode! And hopefully, by the time TLC comes up with a vehicle for Kate alone, everyone will have lost interest and the question will be Kate who?

The whole family at the toy store, and Kate bellowing at Jon in a tone I would not use on my DOG (assuming I had one).

Visiting the pumpkin patch when the kids were much younger and Kate bellowing at Jon as though he were lower than a snake.

Jon trying to get the kids dressed and Kate bellowing him - oh, wait, there seems to be a pattern here.

Kate insisting all the kids must come to pick out new beds (why?) and one of the kids sick. Kate - the nurse - ignored his suffering and dumped it on Jon.

Seriously, the kids used to be cute. It makes me so sad how it's all gone downhill, thanks to Kate.

I am really enjoying reading a blog by Dr. Lillian Glassman who zeros right in on Kate and Jon.

How about when Kate was, ya know, making memories and they all went to cut down their Christmas tree?

The tuplets were only about 1 and 1/2 yr old and she wanted a "family picture". She held the camera, all the while poor Jon had to keep sitting the 6 kids up and keep them from crawling away. They were cold, some had taken off their little shoes and were just miserable and screaming. The 2 older girls were getting annoyed and Jon was telling Kate to forget the picture.

But, ohhh noooo.. not our favorite mother, she kept yelling and she did get her picture.

Merry Christmas, mommy.

The crows at the Imperfect Women blog are trashing you big time. They don't like that you question their Goddess.

Oh.. another favorite...

They drive all the way to Disney, its hot and sunny and they buy the kids ice cream cones. DUH.

Mama Kate starts screaming at the top of her lungs the the little girl is RUINED! RUINED! All because ice cream dripped on her sundress.

So, lets really make the kids enjoy the vacation. Take the ice cream away and make each of them wait for a turn at a spoonful of ice cream.

The screams could probably be heard in PA!

Ahhhhh.. family memories

There are SO many, but my favortie moment happened at the toy store. After the way Kate bellowed for Jon to pay attention, it became unbearable (painful even)to watch the show anymore. I only read your blog Z for updates. It's much more enjoyable.

Family & helper on the plane to Utah.. somehow its in a delayed pattern and everyone is getting antsy. But, WHO is the one crying and carrying on?

Major meltdown in front of all her children and other passengers. Crying that she HAS to get OFF that plane! She can't stand it any more!

Talk about embarrassing moments for those kids.

Memory Lane is full of bumps.. haha!

#3 I will always have a soft spot in my heart for those kids even if the parents and the lying channel are acting like smucks.

Some highlight of the kids
*when Jon was helping one of the tups ride the bike without training wheels

*when the kids talked about animals who can ever forget "aldergator" & Aaden who who went through the I'm a certain animal for the day.

*when the kids would go to Aunt Jodi's and just play dress up. Collin was in high heels once if I recall.

*and finally when the tups would get up from their naps and stand in the bay window for Mady and Kara to get off the bus with their own stools and sippy cups.

WHen I think of favorite moments I immediately think of 'Mady's Day' (Season 3, episode 22) (also known as Gumgate on various blogs).

Kate was yelling, and threatening to throw out Colin's comfort item (lovie) - and Mady stood up to her about throwing out his favorite thing and also comforted her brother.

Looking past Kate's reaction, Mady was a pretty brave big sister in that situation.. I think Mady's defense of her brother was very sweet.

My favorite J&K moment would have to be when Kate was screaming at Jon because he bought a shower head for Mady and Cara's bathroom and didn't use a coupon. I can remember watching that scene and just being so 'jellus' of J&K's relationship and wishing that my husband and I were just like them. A true love story!

Seriously though, that epi was a turning point for me and finally caused my rose colored glasses to fall off my face and crash to the ground, breaking into a million little pieces.

I am now so jaded that even though I wached every epi through the end of Season 4, I can't even recall a favorite moment. It's all just a hot mess right now.

Crayola factory when Kate wouldn't let her kids use washable markers.

"It might be a crazy life........... BUT IT's R Life".

Can you say.......OWL Boat Dem O's hun?

Memorable episode. When Colin did the funny dance behind Kate's back after she finished screaming about a lost dresser knob. Colin's dance was priceless, and I felt it screamed volumes about Kate's true relationship with her children.

My favorite is the Utah ski trip. There are at least four adults (Jon, Kate, Beth Carson and Beth's daughter) to help with the children, but when the flight is delayed and the plane is then diverted, Kate has the most awful meltdown. Truly a tantrum like I've never seen an adult throw! She starts crying and sobbing loudly "I'm done!"

I would pay money to see an episode where the kids get the wooden spoon for a couple of hours! :)

My favorite show is the one where Hank and Peggy celebrate their anniversary by jumping out of an airplane but Peggy's parachute doesn't open and she ends up in a body cast for the rest of the show and Hank feels guilty about it.

Okay. If I have to pick a favorite, the pumpkin patch was cute and enjoyable, but the one that made me lol was when Kate berated Jon for interrupting her (cuz she never ever would to that to Jon). She was a perfect little twit on that episode acting like a rotten spoiled brat that she is. She was slouching and pouting through the entire couch interview and making it quite obvious that they had been arguing. Jon at that point didn't care anymore. You could tell it was all over but the crying.

I must be sadistic to think of that as my favorite. But I am and I do.

My "favorite" moments are the ones where Kate let's it all hang out (I'm not talking about her cleavage - which she lets hang out these days) so we can all see what a complete mental case she is. Examples:

When they took the kids to the Crayola factory and Kate wouldn't let the kids use markers! Mady and Cara were certainly old enough yet they couldn't use them either. All the kids cried that day. Why didn't organized Kate take some old shirts along for the kids to wear so they could have actually had some fun?

On the Forth of July when Kate decided to try the leash with rings on it so each tup could hold a ring and they'd all stay together. They'd never tried it before and the kids are crying not knowing what they're supposed to do. Kate is up ahead holding the leash and walking very fast. Jon yells up to her to slow down, the kids in the back are having problems, and Kate yells, "If I slow down it'll be NEXT Forth of July before we get there." If couse she didn't slow down.

There are the times Kate took them to the playground where the swings, slides, climbing things are in the sand. She told them to stay out of the sand!

She took them to a children's museum where there was a water feature and told them not to get wet!

There are so many. The pumpking carving episode already mentioned was a perfect example. She seems to enjoy torturing her children. As soon as they start having fun she has to put an end to it.

It just hit me...from the description, "Kate takes a walk down memory lane..." So is she going to be sitting on a couch sobbing AGAIN, about how sweet and cute they were, how they're growing up, sob, sniff, what wonderful memories TLC made it possible for them to create, how sad that it's all over? Just another episode of poor, pitiful Kate?

Z, will you be able to stand it?

Favorite moment:

Before the wedding vow renewal on Hawaii, Kate sits the kids down to watch the wedding memories video. She tells the little ones outright "Yes, Mommy and Daddy will be together forever..(insert Squints voice from The Sandlot here)"

I thought that was weird at the time, her answer to why they were getting remarried. Like she was trying make herself believe that was the reason for doing it.

Also that was the moment that immediately popped into my head when the Gosselin saga appeared. I realized this woman would even lie to her four year old children to get what she wanted. Who gets a vow renewal and then decides to split with the father of her EIGHT children just 2 months later???

I believe you are all familiar with my wish to see the Key West sunburn again. That was classic!!!!

Actually, one of the most touching moments I saw was when Kate came back from having the tummy tuck. When she went into the bedroom and the tups started saying "mommy" because they were so glad their mommy was home again. It was a really tender moment.

It's too bad Kate won't have any more of those moments.

How about the one where they came to their new house and Jon is looking after the kids while Kate cleans a fridge for 4 hours. She really does hate spending time with her kids. 4 frigging hours. My fridge is lucky if it gets 5 minutes wiping a month!

Kate going down "memory lane" ??? Which VERSION of "memory lane" is she going down?

One favorite is Kate explaining "the show affords her the ability to be a stay-at-home-mom"...... ;-)

and my personal favorite - Kate looking out the kitchen window of the new house & saying "Mine....all mine....!!!!" then catching herself.....*LOL*

lol @ kelly - blog comment of the day material if I ever saw it.

My favorite moment would be a tie between "gumgate" and "knobgate". Scary high road taker at her best. Good times.

#4 Season 5 The announcement Kate G explains the show must go on!

I have to attack this one delicately.......

Those words will be ones that go down in the Gosselins turning point hall of fame. Kate G...the show did go on, the tabloid fodder did go on, the mess did play out publicly...

People show what they are made of when up against adversity. Kate, Jon, TLC you showed the world how you go on...talk to every tabloid, strike poses for the camera, blame, lie, exxagerate, exploit children unable to make a decision as to whether they want to be filmed, embarass, single out, start expensive litigation all in the name of the REALEST REALITY SHOW JOKE IN HISTORY.

"The show must go on." Kate G you asked for it you got it.

When Jon said he stood up to Kate and he let her run things way too long.

Although he has been a fools fool, for a follower of this show, that was a kodak moment.

Kate most important saying, "Our life is our show. Our show is our life"

Really. Sure.

Good Housekeeping 2008
*Kate G tells reporter that other people with multiples have grandparents involved but they have had none of that.
*Kate G. admits to a part time helper
*Kate G says of her dreams to adopt 1 single Korean baby.

Hawaii trip hits a magazine November 2008

Then 2009....What was truth Kate? I still have never heard about the 30,000, the accounts and why Jon left you no choice but file for divorce....I guess that is for 2010 & beyond.

Conclusion: Your life is about being famous, becoming more famous, and then after that more famous...no matter what you have to say....no matter who you say it to.

Favorite mock moment: Gum gate - "who gives three year olds gum?!?!" Um, you Kate who went on and on about how great gum was for flying. And then she goes on to rip Aunt Jodi a new one.

2nd favorite mock moment: When they did an episode about Kate's Fridays and how Aunt Jodi would take the 6 all morning, feed them lunch and bring them home just in time for an all-afternoon nap. I lost count of the number of times Kate exclaimed she was exhausted from all that work and couldn't wait for Jon to get home and take over.

3rd favorite mock moment: I can't recall the exact episode but I think it was the 4th birthday cupcake debacle. Jon & Kate are on the infamous couch imitating their children and how they eat, then they go on to say they have a pact that they'll never eat anything a child makes because it would be gross. I was disgusted with them both after that inconsiderate display.

Favorite real moment: "I can't see sheep!" ROFL. I still chuckle every time I recall Aaden saying this to Jon.

2nd favorite real moment: When Alexis said "Hannah pooped in her unnerwears". Not the greatest comment but the delivery and expression were beyond adorable.

3rd favorite real moment: The father-daughter moment between Jon & Alexis at the 5th birthday fiasco. Regardless of how immature Jon is there's no doubt he shows real affection to his children. Compare that to Kate's forced kisses & head grabbing to ensure she gets a good photo op.

when they were playing with the custoums. Jon was so cut with the kids. Also when He was trying to put the sandals on one of the little girls and she was saying it is too small. pumpkins as well, jon was the playful one.

My favorite moments were when the kids were being potty trained. They were always so proud of their accomplishments. also i love when Jon and Kate would rehash events,when Jon cooked his Korean dinner, when the kids were happy and playing, when they went to North Carolina,when each of the kids had their own special day.I loved this show and will miss seeing those kids grow up. I hope the parents can salvage their marriage and make this family whole again!!!!

It's sad, because every sweet and tender moment was juxtaposed with a jarring and contradictory emotionally shocking moment.

One of my favorite moments was when Kate returned from her tummy tuck and sweet Alexis was saying "Hi Mommy, Hi Mommy" over and over again. And Kate, in her Kate way said she didn't ever want to miss another week of their lives.

Yep.. So how many weeks are you up to now, Kate? By my count you've missed half of last year and nearly half of this one. Way to go! Guess that wasn't really one of your famous goals.

Ooohhh! I know, I know! It's when Kate tried to get a free boob job thrown in with the free tummy tuck! And Dr. Glassman told her to buy a better bra!

Priceless! One of my all time favorites, right there!

If they really wanted ratings they would show cutting room floor never seen before footage of Kate's most terrible moments.

They would break the 11 mill mark for that.

When Kate makes the little sick boy lay on the cold utility room floor and closes the door and turns out the light. There he is laying there in a smelly vomit room...the other kids have to hold their noses to go in. This woman knows no sympathy. That has to be the most uncomfortable show I remember...it is also a close first to the impacted bowel scene...

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Posted by: I Axelson | November 7, 2009 5:37 PM

"I liked all of them before Jon started putting on the rolling of the eyes and disgusted look."
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What about all of them before KATE started rolling her eyes? Oh wait, that's impossible. There AREN'T any episodes before Kate started rolling her eyes; she was a witch before day one. And by the way? Witch was not the word I really wanted to use.

My favorite episode moment would be the one where Kate was denigrating Jon on camera for BREATHING.

Also, the move into the new house, when Kate said "Mine all mine, as far as the eye can see."

How about no kids in Kate's pad-locked, dead-bolted new house bedroom, under penalty of SEVERENESS? By the way, what exactly is a penalty of severeness anyway?

OK, I'm going to go watch yet another tabloid expose` on "Jon & Kate, the Hate." They are a television tabloid tragedy now, nothing more.

Sponsors, if they were smart, would be jumping ship now before this Titanic finally sinks. And it will, it will. Hopefully there will be at least 8 survivors.

Any moment WITHOUT KATE!!

I'm someone that has watched from the start and my truly favorite episode was when the family went to the zoo. I just loved how the gentleman that was conducting their tour took little Aaden in his arms and just seemed to connect with him and his interest in the animals. Aaden always seemed to me to be passed over sometimes and I loved how he got some special attention. As far as a episode that I'll never forget is the last episode of last season when Jon says he does not want to continue the show and Kate says she does. The look on his face when he says "And there you see the problem" or something to that effect. I think that was the most honest moment of this realty show. If you ever had any doubt about who had the control in that family just look at their faces and see the sadness in his face and the determination in hers.

Another "favorite" episode was when J&K took the twins to a talent agent. Kate explains that the girls enjoy posing and acting. She says that they thought they would take them to a professional to have them interview and see if they truly had talent for that. The talent agent was talking to the girls and in the background Kate is interjecting her own instructions and the woman just stopped her and told her that if this was going to work, she alone would deal with the girls and Kate needed to stay out of the conversation. Just loved seeing someone put Kate in her place. Of course everyone knew that Kate would not ever be working with that agent again!

I was thinking of all the favourite moments (usually the kids' comments)and, with sadness, realized the favourite moments are far outweighed now by the uncomforable moments. TLC's role in all of this is very troubling and I sent the following e-mail to TLC today: "I enjoyed Jon & Kate Plus 8 in its earlier seasons. As the seasons progressed, I became more uncomfortable with Kate's treatment of her husband and children. The show became less real and more staged. The past year, sadly, has been an eye-opener as the family self-destructs before our very eyes. I, a viewer, am looking at TLC's role in the breakdown of this family. It's astounding to me that TLC has not taken the corporate "high road" and stopped production for the sake of the family and, in particular, the children. We viewers realize that TLC is responsible for presenting the illusion of a happy family when the family was clearly in shambles. This is hardly reality TV. I, personally, am not interested in seeing this show continue out of concerns for the children. I amd also watching TLC less as the tone of the station has clearly changed. It used to be one of my favourite stations. Please let the Gosslins retire quickly from the public eye and salvage what's left of the children's childhoods. The lawsuit against Jon Gosselin will destroy this family and TLC will need to accept responsibility for that. This is not entertainment."

Hi Z,

My favorite were the "special days" that they took each of the kids on and Colin at the Hands on Center where he learned about assembly lines. And Aaden's famous "I can't see sheep" at the dairy farm.

Mock favorite - The Disney adventure when Kate had a melt down about one of the girls getting ice cream on her outfit. "She's ruined".

My favorite moments just won't quit:
Kate looking out her kitchen window in the new house and say, "Mine, all mine." I think the kids helped get the house.
Kate claiming she spent 4 hours cleaning the fridge.
Picking up the two dogs at the breeder and Kate - ever the adult - insisted SHE had to be the first one in with the puppies and would not let anyone else make a suggestion on names.

Before I go into my favorite moment which will be when no one ever has to hear about these two again. I wanted to let you know when you search for latest news on these two, and The Baltimore Sun Z website show up when you click on it, it goes to Chicago Tribune, then there is a list which it does appear on, that doesnt seem right to me, seeing that these websites get money for clicks. As soon as this show went from being about the kids to her I quit watching. Everyone says she is so organized, but its obvious she tries to control everything around her bc inside she is a wreck. Those kids may be better off having nannys take care of them. You can't have a favorite moment of her lies, because they continue everytime she opens her mouth. How embarrassing, I can't believe she would keep this up. I read a friend of hers is afaid she 'll never be happy bc no one would want in on that mess. DUH!!!! TLC should be held accountable and both parents for exploiting these children, and that is exactly what they did for money. That is a disgrace no matter how you look at it.

Hey kad, Thnanks for the heads-up. Can you explain this again how clicking on Z on TV sends you to Chicago Trib Web site instead of Sun. Is that what ytou are saying? Please check back in and explain if you can. That does not sound right to me either. In fact, I am going to get this checked out Monday, but any more specific info that you have will help. Is this on a Google search? Thanks. Z

My favorite moment was when Kate had taken everyone over to the new house for the day. Kate spent the ENTIRE day scrubbing and disenfecting the refrigerator (which later she threw out) and Mady and one of the sextuplet girls were upstairs in the hallway. The sextuplet was sitting on the floor and Mady was just standing there repeatedly kicking the little girl over and over again. That family is soooooo loving. Boy that was heartwarming to watch!

I LOVE this show and watch the re-runs every afternoon. Sooooo many favorite memeorits so I'll limit to one for each of them: For Hanna-
Kate is sitting out in the garage with the kids and Hanna climbs up into Kates lap and acts ike she is cutting Kates hair, Kate is supporting Hannas little bottom with her hands and comments, "Ive never had a hairdresser sit in my lap to cut my hair before".
For Cara-
The time Mady threw a fit (what else is new) that the tups used her jump rope to tie the tricycles together and she runs over & jerks the rope away and Cara immediately says to the little ones, "Here you can use mine!" and hands them her jump rope. (Love that girl!)
For Aaden- The time he is riding by himself in the white mini van while Jon drives and he sees a trash truck and he says "t-r-a-s-h-t-r-u-c-k. t-r-a-s-h-t-r-u-c-k"...soo cute.
For Collin- The time he was trying to keep the kids from coming down the slide. (Watch out for "Bubba" as they call him when he is grown!
For Joel- The time he announces he is a girl and Jon and Kate both scramble to assure him he is a boy while rolling their eyes.
For Leah- (I think its her) that as a baby is found laying in a pool of poop and Kate quickly bathes her and in the tub, Leah looks up at Kate with the sweetest look.
For Alexis- There are two. When she says to one of the cameramen about his shoes, "Thems got crumbs on them!" And the time they took her to the reptile farm and she sees some baby aldergators and they tell her "those are babies!" and she says, "Awwwwwwwwww!"....Love that girl! Cant think of a favorite for Mady. Never saw a child that needed discipline so badly. For Kate- The time she cooked 16 home cooked meals so the family wouldnt have to eat fast food while she was recuperatig from surgery. For Jon- The time he was putting the boys to bed and he almost gets into bed with Joel and wraps his body around Joel and whispers "Goodnight Buddy".
As Alexis said...Awwwwwwwwwww!
Just LOVE this show and wish only the best for Kate & the kids. Jon needs to disappear.

I liked it when Kate was standing by her kitchen window in the house she cannot afford and said, "This is mine. All mine." Very odd. I'd like to know how she is going to hang on to this house now that her show has been cancelled and her husband has walked out on her and neither one of them have a job!

My favorite moments are the ones yet to come.

Some or all of the kids suing thier parents.

Some or all of the kids exposing TLC. They didnt have to sign confidentiality contracts.

Some or all of the kids Tell All Books

And kate finally realizing you reap what you sow. She may not realize it fully but its inevidable that if you are a greedy, selfish, mean parent and user of society it will bite you at some point, it already has in many ways

My favorite episode was one of the prior "trips down memory lane," when both Jon and Kate were recalling moments from the show, and Kate spent the hour bashing Jon (was that the "You're breathing too loud" moment?) AND lying her a** off...

Jon defended himself a bit, but usually let Kate ramble on and dig herself into a hole; the producers called her on a few of her lies, like she did not REALLY yell that loud at Toys R Us, "no one else heard it, that was just editing" and then they show footage of everyone turning around looking for the yelling shrew.

It was the first time I actually thought the producers weren't "softening" reality, they were showing her how she really was.

Part of the reason I appreciate that show is I watched it with my two teenage sons, and pointed out how she couldn't own up or take responsibility for ANYTHING, it was always someone else's fault. It really opened their eyes to some issues in their own behavior, how horrible that kind of narcissism is to everyone around, and how important it is to Man Up and apologize when necessary, not deflect blame or be defensive.

We've had lots of lessons on how NOT to act or treat people, thanks to Kate, but this was definitely one of my favorites

Favorite moments? Seeing that TLC is in charge of activities and knowing now how planned they all were, it's hard to say there were favorite moments. I think that it's laughable that Kate's the one to go down memory lane- yes, she's the one that was so into MAKING memories. I am sure that the show will not show her meltdowns, her diva attitude, her this, her that... just "silly old me" Kate.
UGH.....

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Posted by: Deeana | November 8, 2009 3:22 PM
"I LOVE this show and watch the re-runs every afternoon.....Cant think of a favorite for Mady. Never saw a child that needed discipline so badly."
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Perfect, absolutely perfect. In just three sentences, Deeana demonstrated EXACTLY what is so horribly WRONG with this show.
Let's take it from Mady's POV. TLC edits this show, and has made a concerted effort to enhance her TV persona as the "difficult" child. I'm sure that she contributes, but they push it further with their edits. How do you think she'll feel in a couple of years? How do you think she feels now? How would you like your daughter to be in this situation?

Absolutely nothing makes me quite so angry as how Mady is continuously portrayed, how many of the viewing audience comment on this, and what this will do to her going forward.

Girls have such a hard time as it is, with magazines, TV, music, everything around them pushing a specific definition of beauty, what they should weigh, etc., why in God's name would any parent allow their daughters' self esteem to be chipped away at even further.

Sorry, but it is so so wrong. And you, Deeana, should be ashamed. Ten people, REAL people not fictional characters, on a show you watch daily. You could not think of ONE positive thing to say about Mady.

Mady is a beautiful little girl, with an engaging smile and confidence galore. Maintain that confidence, nurture that independence, Mady, and you will go so very far.

My favorite moments include the footage of the children taken on a camera in the bedroom when they were supposed to be napping and some or most of them were in and out of bed, having a happy time. I loved the moment when in one episode one of the boys could not figure out how to pair his shoes and another boy helped him. I also loved the time that Mady defended one of her brothers.

A comment that echoes in my mind when I am thinking of Jon and Kate, as opposed to the children, is when they were shopping for clothes and Kate, defending her behavior in treating Jon with rudeness and public humiliation, said that all wives speak to their husbands that way and Jon, looking at the camera, said that no wives speak to their husbands that way.

Moments I hated included the time when the boys were crying at the window because Jon had left the house to go to work and Kate made one of them sit in "time out" simply because he was upset that Jon had left. How callous! How hard hearted! How mean! As the mother of boys, I felt their hurt. Kate's excuse was crowd control but what would it have taken for her to put her arm around the crying boy / boys and console him / them with soothing words?

I started wondering early on how long their marriage would last but I never imagined it would implode this soon because Jon put up with so much verbal abuse from Kate. I am very happy that the children will have the tapes to watch when they are adults because they will see first hand their own positive relationships with each other and they will also see first hand the totally unacceptable behavior of their mother toward their father.

Kate did say not to give up on Mady. I do think all of these children, all eight have different personalities. My kids are different. It really isn't nice to label Mady. We have fun with all of this, but I do hope the kids grow up to be well-adjusted and good people and have a good life. I hope they have family, it is sad that Kate has shut everyone out.

Wow I have a sore throat, so I have been on the computer a lot today.

In Hawaii, when they are discussing the "wedding" ceremony with the wedding planner and Kate says something like "Mady wants to be my maid of honor" and Mady rolls her eyes and says in a very sarcastic tone, "I want to?" She knew the sham that ceremony was!

Great moment, yes. Z

Z, I have watched this program since the beginning, but had to stop when Kate took them all to the new home.
I was sickened by the "mine, all mine" line from Kate along with the locking out of the little kids from the master bedroom. Considering the young ages of the kids and the locations of their bedrooms, for the sake of safety or illness I just don't get the "lock-out." There is just too much we, the viewers, don't know about these people.
It's all a train wreck and I feel so sorry for these overexposed children. I'm a grammy to 8 and I just don't understand using the children for the family paycheck. That is the parents' job!

Taking a cue from kad, my favorite moment is also in the future: when Kate will be the center of attention on an episode of "Intervention" for her NPD, because this will be the only tv gig she can get.

Attending Queen Kate will be her children, Jon and every one of his new female friends of the past year, plus everyone she's ever kicked to the curb, including Beth, Kevin, Jodie, and the church volunteers who remodeled her first house (& had the audacity to give non-matching cribs).

They will all be wearing reverse mullet wigs.

Kate going down memory lane is laughable. I don't think there is a GPS that could find Memory Lane for Kate or those kids. For the kids, The Amittyville Horror would be a finer memory than what they have endured for "Five Seasons". WAIT.... I mean Five Years. Sorry Kate.

GPS and Memory Laqne -- funny line. Z

Z, I don't think you'll have to spend much time reviewing this show tomorrow. Kate's memory is so bad, she can't even remember who called it quits first, supposedly just 8 months ago. How then, will she be able to remember anything from the last five years?

Ha. Good one. It will be fun to see where they go with it. And as always, ever faithful Z will be there. Only one more week to go after Monday. Z

Posters please be kind when you remember this family. It's easy for us to judge them, but till we walk in their shoes we can't know what we would have done in the same situation.They wanted the best for their kids and what started out as an endearing family got so messed up. I love this family and i hope they can come together again. And TLC when you saw this train wreck happening why didn't you insist on counseling for them?You have a big part in this mess. Leave Jon alone and help them to regroup and become a real family again!

Thanks for the comment. As we know, TLC is not leaving Jon alone. It is putting intense pressure on him to do as TLC wants him to do. Jon is a fool and immature, and I do not know how well he is going to handle this. Z

Reply to DH..

You are so right regarding Mady. Evidently, she has a coping problem. Yes, she is getting older and its getting more out of hand, but I don't think her parents rolling eyes and saying "that's Mady" is the solution.

I also agree that TLC has shown this little girl in the worst possible light in almost every episode. Its really sad to watch.

She is desperate for attention and the "one special day" out of years just won't hack it. Was that the only time /season/year/whatever that they did the "special days" for each child?

One of the later episodes had the kids coming home with balloons and one of the boys' balloon got loose and flew to the sky. The little boy was crying and heartbroken, but Mama Kate wasn't concerned at all. She kept telling him its only a balloon and stop crying. Mady ran to him and told him to take her balloon and also offered another toy she had in her hand.

She has shown caring towards the little ones. I also remember the episode when she told her mother it was mean to throw Colin's "lovie" in the trash because it had a tiny piece of gum stuck to it.

It broke my heart to hear her when they went to pick up the pups. She grabbed one of the pups and said "he loves me the best". This girl is so in need of one on one attention and love.

here are my would-be favorite moments:

Jon & Kate go to counseling to learn how to be civil to each other, deal with their anger issues, and put their monstrous egos aside once and for all -- all for the sake of the kids.

Seeing the kids get much-needed counseling as well.

Go back to church! Maria Shriver & Arnie go to mass every week, why can't Jon & Kate?!

Kate's extended family (parents & other siblings) welcomed back into the family. Maybe a Thanksgiving reunion.

Jon & Kate giving a hefty - and I mean hefty - charity donation. Minimum 10% of their gross combined income.

Wife Swap: Kate switches with an Army wife and maybe it will click in her dense head what is important in life.

Better yet...send both Jon & Kate to Iraq for a major reality check.

Finally, the long-awaited end to this show so the children can be children and live their lives in anonymity, without the scrutiny of millions.

Great thought, kathleen. I wish I had thought of favorite moments we would like to see. Thanks. Z

Someone feel free to correct me, but I think I recall all the shows when the kids had their "special" day. As I recall, Kate was present for all the girls. She was nowhere to be seen when the boys had their special day. She has a pretty obvious dislike of males. Maybe that was a special treat for the boys to be away from her.

Deeana,
Mady doesn't need discipline, she needs attention. BADLY! She acts oppositional because it is the one and only way she can be heard in the crowd. She needs her relatives, she needs one on one time with her parents, and she needs her privacy so that people like you can't bash her any more.

It is, afterall, her parents who have exposed their children to all of the Mady bashing in the world. Why don't they care? Did you ever ask yourself that? Why do so many of us see the damage being done to these kids yet the parents are oblivious? Mady is bright, and funny, and gentle with animals and small children. You never caught any of that? Opinions like yours are one of the reasons these kids should never have been filmed in the first place.

One favorite was when Jon got hair plugs, kind of a contrast to Kate getting a tummy tuck. Amazing what people will donate. That was a good episode.

And Hannah's "Enjoy yourself moment".

Okay see you all later. I will just enjoy the other comments.

Thanks, Sherry. Did someone actually donate hair plugs for Jon? Wow. How did that come about, I wonder. Or, is that an episode ytou wish you would see? Z

Z,

Someone did donate hair plugs for Jon. I don't know who, but I hope one of the other commenters will.

They also had the donated teeth whittening episode with Kate and Jon communicating back and forth to each other with written notes. And Kate's mouth was on fire. See this is bringing back all kinds of great memories. Maybe some of other commenters will remember other donated things.

I am going to put my throat on ice. Will be back.

Z, yes, Jon did get free hair plugs. "Donated" (read: advertised) by a California doctor. Didn't really work if you ask me.

I'm having Yankee-withdrawal! Less than 100 days to spring training : )

Yes, next year is the Orioles' year to overtake the Yankees. Ha. Maybe on the Planet Bizarro. Hair plugs, wow. They are grifters. Z

Deena -

Thank you for illustrating the inherent problem with this show. Stating detailed scenes with each child and then making a deragatory statement about Mady pretty much says it all.

Please see mariE on your way out so she can add your information to her push-pin map.

Wow, a fan of the show can't think of anything nice to say about Mady? How sad. And others are right; what she needs is attention. She's very bright and she's had sweet moments with all of the little ones. Plus she's funny.

z, the hair plugs were donated and it was pretty graphic to watch. I couldn't take much. Kate left a house full of sick kids to fly across the country for it. That's what you do when you're a high road taker!

Good line, sparkly... high-road taker.... Z

Sarcastic moments would have to be Gumgate and Knobgate. God... those were such tiny and insignificant issues that Katie Irene blew WAY out of proportion. Seriously? It's a tiny piece of gum and a stupid knob off a dresser. No need to freak out over it.

But seriously happy moments would have to be watching Mady with her little cousin Benny. She loved that little kid, you could see how careful and caring she was around him. It just shows that Mady is not the child her parents made her out to be.

And for as much of a douche that Jon is right now, watching him interact with his kids is always fun. He generally is able to let them be kids, and willingly plays with them. Granted, while dating several women isn't winning him any points, why do people seem to forget that HE was the one taking care of those kids, not Kate?

AMEN, Free Gosselin 8, on your response to Deeana regarding Mady. When I was a young parent, I remember my mother telling me that children will do whatever it takes to get your attention. Negative attention, or positive attention. Doesn't matter to them. They just want your attention. Its up to you to decide what type of attention. Mady has learned that negative attention is how she gets Kate to notice her. Sad.

My favorite moment has yet to happen - that would be the day these two jerks fade into obscurity.

Oh yeah one more favorite. I am on a roll. The episode with the Harlem Globetrotters and Cara got a signed basketball. That was fun to watch!!

My girls team the Bengals won today and my cousin lifelong Maryland resident was not too happy.

See you tomorrow.

Yes, Z, Jon got hair plugs and while they (Jon & Kate) flew off to CA, Kevin and Jodi and their 4 sick kids came over and stayed with the Gosselins' 8 kids who were also sick! That is part of the reason why viewers are enraged about the mistreatment of Jodi. She was a Saint to "user" Kate. You should have seen Kate removing the "icky" bloody staples from Jon's head (at the dining table) a few days after they got home from his procedure. It was too much for me. Z, you really are getting the picture of these "grifters."

My favorite moment is when Kate accompanied Jon to get hair plugs after she made fun of him for losing his hair. She left several sick kids with her brother Kevin and sister-in-law Jodi who had 10 kids in all to take care of. She showed her family she was grateful for allowing TLC to tape in their home and watch kids by cutting her family out of her life when TLC offered to pay them.

I also like the time when Kate blew up around the house because Jodi gave the kids gum and they got gum on their socks.

Oh, and I hope they show the time when Nana Janet came to the tups birthday party and took a ride on the pony and Kate derided her for her weight.

Then there's the time that Kate threw a nasty, poop filled diaper at one of the producers.

That Kate, she's such a riot. Her mean jabs and selfish ways have made for such memories as these television moments.

(sigh)

Z,

As others have said, the hair plugs were indeed donated, but they were something Kate more than Jon ever really wanted, but he went ahead with the procedure - just as he did with just about everything she thought they 'had' to do/have. He's said since then that it was VERY painful.

Aunt Jody and Uncle Kevin and their kids all 'moved in' to stay with the Gosselin kids while J&K were gone. All the sextuplets had the flu/colds. Remember that this was a totally elective procedure that most anyone else would have rescheduled due to family illness, but not the Gosselins, because the show had to go on. Yep, leaving 6 sick/recovering kids at home, they boarded the plane, stayed in CA for a couple of days, had the procedure, and then flew home -- with TLC production crew in tow.

Kate, the nurse, was shown how to remove Jon's staples when it was time, yet played up her squeemishness for the task for the cameras. Keep in mind she did this during mealtime, at the kitchen table, with the kids all in attendance.

Heck, it was free, it was for the show - who were they to say no?!

At the Yahoo general search, i typed in "latest news jon and kate gosselin", then click on the latest news at the top of the page, that pulls up all the articles according to date. Thats where i always see your articles. Then when I clicked on them which does show baltimore sun on the bottom it went straight to the Chicago Tribune page, at that site if you scroll down you will find it, it just doesnt take you direct. Hope that helps

I just checked the search again, you can go to yahoo news search and put in jon and kate gosselin. I checked your aritcles for the past week and they are going to the chicago tribune site also.

Just a few comments:

AnnM, your email to TLC was perfect. You said everything that needed to be said.

Kat, after you mentioned the dog naming incident, it jogged my memory. Kate couldn't even let the kids pick name for the dogs. SHE had to name them and she doesn't even like dogs. I remember her rambling on about why she chose the names she did and saying something about not wanting names like "Buddy." Made my mad, because I named my dear sweet terrier Buddy, because I got him to be a buddy for my little dachshund when I had to leave her to go to work.

Deeaba, I see you haven't returned, but I'll say this anyway. If TLC could get ahold of your DNA they'd clone you a million times over for their ratings. You'd better start looking over your shoulder... TLC is desperate.

Clink, your comment was interesting about how you had your sons watch Kate to see how not to behave. I think you might have hit upon how Kate can make some money. Educational tapes - "Don't Be a Kate."

Speaking of the hair plugs, what about when Kate pulls the stitches out at the kitchen table with the kids watching?

Now, lets remember Ms Kate is a nurse and she was more squeamish than I would have been. Also, each time she pulled a stitch, Jon yelled.

Do we think she gave him pain on purpose?

Sherry, thanks for the referral for the push pin map. You are right on that one.

How can someone say they love the show and watch reruns every day and have NOTHING nice to say about a 9 year old child.

To list all the cute things the other kids did and even compliment the mother, but single out the one child ,only gives us more proof why they should be taken out of the spotlight.

I hope Deanna doesn't have more than one child, she seems selective in favoritism.

There were many moments when the kids were cute and sweet.
Unfortunately all of those moments became overshadowed by Kate's annoying commands and behavior.

I'll add just a small moment when the Teutel's came to visit. Paul, Sr. asked Kate if she knew what they called one of the motorcycles. Kate was sure the motorcycle must be named "Kate" (since Kate always thinks in terms of herself). But Paul, Sr. was talking about motorcycles, not Kate! The red motorcycle was called "greenie". Kate was disappointed and wanted to have a motorcycle with her name. Not that she cares about motorcycles, she only cares about hearing her name.

3 episodes to go. And, the High Heeled High Road Kate and her Lying Channel will be put to rest for a little while.

After a good nights sleep...I am ready and raring to go....1st of all...tonight is not going to be a night we will learn anything new. I think the ratings will be less tonight.

A favorite moment I remember is when Kate wasnt as famous she was interviewed for TWINS, SEXTUPLETS documentary. She was describing the new house her and Jon purchased. She stated that this was a house they could "AFFORD"

Lordie bee have they come a long way!!!!And of my gosh how prudently they have spent their money...cough cough...my how organized she has become...cough cough...my how this whole experienced has not affected her kids...blah blah blah....

My favorite moment was Kate's last interview with Ms. Morales. She started blubbering and saying she wished Jon would call her and yadda yadda yadda. She's pathetic. I don't believe she nor Jon love each other anymore but she can't stand it that he was miserable and finally left her. She knows that it is going to be next to impossible for her to find anyone else especially with her angry, controlling personality. Who would put up with her!

7 HABITS OF HIGHLY ANNOYING REALITY SHOW STARS

1. The high heeled reality star makes up her own words. ~ Utterly ridiculosis

2. The high heeled reality star laughs at her own self.

3. The high heeled reality star throws anyone in her way under the bus.

4. The high heeled reality star thinks telling the sanitized version is always the best version of the truth.

5. The high heeled reality star thinks taking the high road really means doing it her way.

6. The high heeled reality star thinks that everyone thinks she is doing such a great job.

7. Finally, the high heeled reality star thinks that any decision she makes is always in the best interest of her children.

I really think we might see all these habits tonight. Just remember if you cannot stomach anymore Z will watch so you can have a life.

Favorite Moment #1: "COME AND GET YER POPCORN!!!"

Favorite Moment #2: Making cupcakes for the tups' 4th (?) birthday - only the girls can eat their cupcakes. The icky boys may not, despite how badly they want them and how pitiful they look.

Looks to me like Jon needs a second hair transplant. I believe that was mentioned when he had the first one done. He still has a bald spot.

As far as the dogs, an earlier show said the breeder went to Kate when she was traveling and offered the dogs to her. At the time, she wasn't interested. I don't know why she changed her mind - poor dogs.

My favourite moment didn't come from the show itself, but from when Kate was on Say Yes to the Dress to choose her wedding gown for the faux vow renewal. Her eyes were absolutely glued to the mirror; she couldn't take her eyes off herself. It was actually embarrassing to watch someone so completely in love with herself. I wanted to say, "For crying out loud, get a room!" She is the most narcissistic person I have ever had the misforture to see-- and that's saying a lot, since Hollywood and professional sports are chock full of them. I feel so very sorry for her kids. It is probably one of the most emotionally damaging things a child can experience-- a mother whose overhelming egotism and self-centredness makes her children a VERY distant lower priority than herself.

- Patti

Everyone keeps blogging that Jon's hair plugs were donated. I saw that episode and I remember clearly that the procedure was donated, but they used actual hair from the back of Jon's head. It was Jon's own hair not donated hair.

Posted November 9, 2009 10:52 AM
"... . Mark my words, we havnet heard the last of Mady..."

Re: Mady

I find your entire post exceptionally cruel towards a child in a most difficult situation. I would suggest your bullying tactics towards Mady is much more damaging than anything Mady does or does not do. After all, you are the adult and yet you speak in such a hateful way about a child. Shame on you.

The comment to which you refer has been deleted. Thanks for alerting me. Z

I am very offended by Deeana's latest post at 10:52am. I would like to see it removed for the sake of sweet Mady. I don't think Deeana knows very much about children. I do not see any of this "future" for Mady. This is one of the dangerous approaches that the Kate fans take in regards to a child. It is very sad and scary.

It has been deleted. Thanks. Z

Z - post by Deeana today @ 10:52 AM should really be removed. Such derogatory remarks about a child is inappropriate.


Yes, it has been brought to my attention and removed. Thanks for all the heads-up bloggers who jumped on it and got in touch with me right away. Z

Deeana ..... are you serious????? This is a 9yrd old girl who asked for none of this and could very well be the "victim" of the TLC editing room

Hi, the remark has been removed. Please see my thanks to all you bloggers who brought it to my attention right away. Z

Deanna,
I'm not going to debate the mental health of a nine year old child with you, so you can just go and disparage children elsewhere.

But if you're interested, why don't you use your magic google button to search out the fate of children of narcissistic mothers. Maybe then you will see the actual root of Mady's pain.


The remark has been removed. Thanks to all you bloggers who jumped on it and got my attention. Z

Reply To Deanna 9:12

WOW.. your venom towards a 9 year old is scary.

All the "instances" that you listed might be true, but don't you sit and ask "WHY"? Why would a small child display such behavior?

In the beginning of this show, Mady was like a little mother to the babies. She would sit at the semi-circle feeding table and spoon food into their mouths. She would help dress them as they got older. There are many "instances" that showed Mady & Cara helping their little sisters & brothers.

Now, we all agree that Mady seems "troubled" and I think most mothers on this blog see it for what it is. She needs attention and apparently she has been revolting about being filmed. This has been for the past few seasons, didn't happen overnight. Haven't you noticed that Mady (and sometimes Cara) have not been seen in episodes for the past 2 seasons?

We aren't behind the scenes and don't know how many times this child has told her parents she does not want to be filmed any longer. But, her loving mother has shown us that it doesn't matter what the rest of her family wants, SHE is the star and will decide when/what/where.

For you to flash-forward to this child's future on par with OJ Simpson is horrifying to me.

She has been lost in the fray of publicity and parental selfishness. She didn't start out with this personality, it was FORCED on her by her parents, mostly her mother.

This mother who should have stopped at procreating after she had lovely twins. How do you think Mady would have evolved if it had been just she and Cara sharing the attention and love of 2 parents in a normal household without strangers in their home following with cameras?

I think the tuplets are beautiful and adorable children, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Kate G can not handle such a brood. She doesn't have the unselfish gene that mothers need to raise children. Her "its all about me" personality might have been kept in check if she only had 2 children. But, it has come out and overtaken her entire family now that there are so many of them.

Kate reminds me of the adage :"everyone loves kittens, but no one likes cats". Equate that to Kate & her children. I honestly believe that Kate loves babies, but doesn't like kids.

Deanna, honestly, you should be ashamed posting such a diatribe geared toward a lovely little girl who is living through a life-altering crisis in the public eye.

A crisis, I might add, that shows NO signs of ending. I would take that child into my home in a heartbeat.


The comment about Mady has been removed. Thanks. Z

It will be when all major news channels announce that new federal laws has been made to protect young children from being exploited on reality TV shows. Dept. of Labor is Pennsylvania finally investigates TLC for their past actions and forced to be shut down forever.

As to TLC's latest lawsuit against Jon Gosselin, that guy maybe a dote, but I boycotted the station and their major sponsors because of TLC and Kate. They are blowing a lot of hot air at this point to try & force Jon Gosselin to relent.

Deeana, you're scary.

MarieE, your comment was right on point.

Z, thank you for removing the venom. Now I know why I like this site so much.

Thank you to all you bloggers for jumping on it and getting my attention. I don't think we will be posting anything from her again on this topic. Z

Another moment was when Kate was nagging Collin about not being potty trained fast enough. He was sitting on the potty in the bedroom and she stomps out of the bedroom turning off the light in the bedroom and leaving him there in the dark!

By the way, she waited till they were over 3 and a half years old before she finally got around to potty training the boys. I have a grown son and he was totally potty trained by the age of 2 and I never had any problems with him. Don't forget! Kate won't even speak to her own father (or mother). She has serious issues!

I agree with Finallyover and marieE. Sad that anyone would write something about a child or anyone for that matter that is derogatory. I am so glad that this is kind of stuff is edited on this blog.

THANKS Z and commenters.

Deanna, you REALLY need to get a life!

Boy I am glad I missed that comment about Mady....

You know when it is all said and done today I just hope the ratings are less.

Scott.. I will say to you what I commented to Deeana.. How do you know if this is a true representation of Mady and not what the editing team at TLC chooses to show you. It is EXTREMELY unfair to this 9yrd old girl to have people form opinions that she will have to deal with for the rest of her life. J&K should be ashamed of themselves.

SThanks, Nancy. Scott's comment is gone as well. I just got back on, and I am not going to let this blog be used as a forum for amateur psychoanalyais of a child. The majority bloggers here are right about the childrten being off limits in that regard. Sorry. Z

Z...

While I understand & respect your reason for deleting the offensive DEANNA post regarding Mady Gosselin, I would have preferred it remain on the blog.

My thoughts are that we know TLC and probably Kate & Jon read your articles and comments.

I think they should constantly be made aware of the publlic's perception of their daughter. Deanna's post was, believe it or not, mild, in comparison to some I have seen over the "seasons" regarding Mady.

YouTube is full of clips showing this little girl's poor behavior and most of it is put to music. Her short little life is a parody to be laughed at! There are thousands of blogs pertaining to J&K+8 and many of them are dedicated to trashing this child.

While I know you, myself and 99% of the posters on this blog found Deanna's post to be reprehensible, I feel it should be allowed to be read by other posters and TLC to show proof of how dangerous and heartbreaking the reaction is to this famiily.

This blog has been protective of the children and that is what has brought us together regarding this show. Yes, we laugh and groan at the antics and statements by the parents, but our main concern is how their behavior is affecting their children. The fact that Kate doesn't see this is a truly sad situation.

So, maybe its good to let TLC and Kate read how some sickos are obsessing over this child. Maybe something will CLICK in their money-hungry heads to say "hey, this little girl is being hurt" by statements by complete strangers.

The very first time that Kate & Jon saw their daughter maligned on YouTube or read or heard of anti-Mady stories, they should have said.. "enough, we are done".

For the rest of her life, Mady Gosselin will know all it takes is one click of a mouse to see how she was hated and ridiculed as a child.

How does a little girl, teenager, young woman overcome that legacy?


Thanks, MarieE: You know I respect your opinion, and appreciate what you are saying here. You could be right in arguing for such comments to stay up. But I just would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to a child. I just deleted a comparable comment about her. I don't want this blog to be a forum for people saying cruel things about a child. If folks are looking for a line note to cross, there one is. Z

Scott, I will share the same advice with you that I gave to Deanna. Google "Narcissistic Mothers" and see for yourself what awaits these children.

Hi Free: I took Scott's comment down. Please see previous explanation from me. Thanks. Z

When they first went out to Utah (who takes six three olds and 2 6 year olds skiing?)
While waiting for the passenger van to pick them up at SLC airport - she says to herself "we are going to Hawaii next!"
It has subsequently been edited out of later reruns of the episode.
Also the Christmas episode during the first season of the show. Kate tells the camera that she lets the kids have gifts sent to them by fans. Way to keep it "real" TLC! Also wouldn't this bring on a little "fanatical" behavior by some watchers?

Like Irene, I'm glad I missed the comment about Mady.

Boggles my mind how anyone can disparage a child...

I'd love to see the ratings fall below 1million...wishful thinking I'm sure but still it would be a real eye opener for TLC and Kate.

In contrast to how Kate mothers her children, even though according to her we are not to question her mothering, you could plainly see the the difference in all the children when they went over to Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin's house. They were allowed to be kids there. They played dress-up, baked, went on outings, even if it was just a walk, and they were all smiling and happy.They did all kids of stuff that a regular family would do. Jodi actually took the time to make each one of them feel special. When they were baking, both Mady and Cara got to choose a recipe out of a book that Kate (in her own words) had never bothered to use. If they got too rowdy, she'd be firm not nasty and the kids respected her and listened. If there were any moments to cherish about this show, I think it is those.

Bottom line - it bothered Kate that Jodi was everything a loving mom could be and she was not. Katie Irene was jealous.

Pop quiz ~

Q: What do Aunt Jodi, Kevin, toys, blankies, paper plates, dogs, childrens artwork, stuffed animals and Jon all have in common?


I think I know the answer, but I'll hang back and see if anyone else can guess. Thanks, Chrysee. Z


Z..

I agree that there should be a line note to cross and respect your explanation and decision.

Thanks.

Thanks for youre insight. You know far more about children than I do. I just want to be careful that we don't encourage folks who would say mean stuff about kids. Besides, we have such a nice group here, and we don't want to spoil the vibe with people who would say mean stuff about kids. As for Kate and Jon, they are more than fair game...They and TLC created this trainwreck and are maing money off it. Thanks. Z

Thank you Z. I just don't understand why people think these poor kids are fair game.. They didn't have a choice, they didn't ask for the attention, they have absolutely no control over any aspect of their lives and yet people think they know them and can diagnose
them?

I don't actually have a favorite moment from J&K+8; I've watched maybe an hour's worth of it over its 2 or 3 year history. From the very beginning I found the relationship between the parents too painfully strained to watch. I never thought they were happy. Most of what I've learned comes from reading this column, so I can say that my favorite J&K moment is the uprising against the appalling Deanna regarding her appalling post regarding poor little Mady and Z's appropriate action in deleting said post. Thx for supporting little Mady, Z. She evidently needs it. ;)

Okay, Justanotheropinion, You are my new favorite best blogger in the world for supporting the shutdown of Deanna. seriously, though, thanks. Z

Z - I would like to hear the answer from some of the adoring Kate fans.

Bet we won't though.

All I can say today is,

God is good, beer is great and Jon and Kate are crazy.

When one of the boys asks, "mommy, where are my gubs?") (Gloves.) :0)

A good memory of these kids is when they spent 4th of July in NC.

Although most of the episode was typical Kate screaming & being the BOSS and meltdowns of a few kids during the day. (little girl crossing legs since mommy said NO to bathroom until family picture was taken and mommy screaming at kids for eating a few leftover strawberries)

The nice part of that episode was the look of delight on the faces of those kids watching the fireworks. The usual "ooooohhs and ahhhhhhs" was adorable.

I guess it goes to shows that children can put a day of a screaming maniac mother on the backburner and enjoy fireworks at the beach.

Chrysee,

The answer is DISPOSABLE. Except for the paper plates, it is too bad that Kate feels that way. And if the paper plate is made into a piece of art work by a child then it should be treasured too. I have some of those paper plate treasures.

Sherry T.

TLC needs to halt this show. It has gone far away from a show about a caring family. Kate has gone hollywood, she wants to be in the movies (her own words)and everything is all about her and how she can get her face on TV, talk shows and I have heard rumor a show with cooking gal Paula Dean who I watch every day but will not if Kate is on with her. I refuse to watch TLC shows any longer until the show is gone off the air. She is fake in everyway and has only feelings for herself and they way she treats her children is sad. They cannot get dirty, be sick basically they cannot be children...just money making little folks for their greedy mother. Thanks for listening...hope TLC see's

I'm glad I missed the Mady comment. One of my favorite moments of the show is when Mady sticks up for Collin and his bear that got gum on it.
Another favorite moment (I don't remeber what episode)--Alexis is sitting at the table (at the old house) and says, "I love everybody."
Another (snarky) favorite moment--when Jon tells Kate to "take the stick out."

Thanks for deleting both posts z! I was reading D's while on the phone and was boiling. That's exactly why children shouldn't be on reality TV.

While I was talking on the phone - ordering train tickets actually - I remembered a very rude Kate moment: When she dissed the Strasburg railroad conductor because he was telling train history. I forgot exactly what she said. They had a whole car to themselves - free of course. yeesh.

Oh here's what I see on my way to google news today. Saving this one!

http://i33.tinypic.com/14awkeg.jpg

You know some of the bloggers are making a very valid point. TLC, Jon and Kate are you paying attention to how all this publicity is and will affect these 8 children.

It is all just so dispicable. I just do not have anything nice left to say about the adults in this situation.

Oh, Lordie Bee...never a day without a Gosselin.

Jon and Levi Johnston what a pair.

You would really think Jon would be getting an attorney and preparing for a case.

Any Kate sightings lately?

Sherry T - Someone here mentioned before the webisode where Kate tossed the kids artwork in the garbage as soon as they came home from Sunday School. They were all so proud of what they had made that morning and just like that - into the trash it went. Then she pushed it down even further with a box and walked away with a satisfied smirk on her face. I hurt for those little people when I saw that. The emotional scars these kids are going to have will be astronomical.


That woman makes my blood boil.

I guess Deanna missed the show where both J&K said Cara is just like Jon and Mady is just like Kate.

All of the kids need therapy desperately. The day before Jon came out and said he had stopped the filming of the children, I had written a story idea to Mike Heller. I suggested since they show the optometrist, dentist and other doctors' visits, why couldn't they show the children with a therapist talking about how divorce will affect the family and how it isn't the children's fault.

I am hoping when the limelight is off of this family, Jon will become the loving full-time Father he used to be and will help these children. I know he is being such a dufus now, but I think a lot of it is in rebellion to Kate.

Oh Chrysee, you'll have to do better than that:

Q: What do Aunt Jodi, Kevin, toys, blankies, paper plates, dogs, childrens artwork, stuffed animals and Jon all have in common?

Easy, peasy.. Why everything on the list has been tossed away, disposed of, replaced, trashed. Now just what do her adoring fans think Kate will do with her children when she tires of them?

I just wanted to thank Z and my fellow bloggers for taking a stand against posts like those made by Deanna (and I didn't even see the second one). I was so upset this morning I had to walk away for a bit.

Nancy - Some Kate fans think it's acceptable to be hateful toward Mady because Kate is hateful to her as well. The thought of it makes my blood boil. I would love to have Mady as my daughter.

Hi Suzi J: Thanks. That is a very nice thought. Z

Jon Gosselin and Levi Johnston in the same picture? That should be titled "Too Doo Dads showing their Ding Dongs".

I'm sorry, I just had to.....

Chrysee,

I think I remember some part of that episode too, the one where Kate had no respect for the art work the kids did. I used to hang my girls art work on the refrigerator with magnets and it would stay there for weeks until the next one came home. THANKS for that fun quiz Chrysee - keep them coming. :)

Suzi J. - that was a very nice thing to say, I feel that way too and marieE and everyone that caught the post.

Have a great day everyone. I am running to the orthodontist with my daughter.

Hi Suzi J... I have watched from the begining up until late last year and right or wrong feel a bit protective of those poor kids and to see people writing such hateful things was more than I could take. I have read this blog for a couple months now and only ever commented once but Z is right today a major line was crossed and he absolutely did the right thing!

I think the protectiveness comes from being a Mom, a skill totally lost on some people ;)

FtG8 - Her fans are in serious denial, so I'm not really expecting them to answer. Are we not all still waiting for them to tell us just what exactly it is that makes Kate such a wonderful mother? We're all going to grow old together and have long beards before that happens. (if Z keeps us around that long -lol)

When Kate had her hair bleached and the little girl, knew she was her Mommy, but she looked different.. she kept saying, Mommy? Mommy? (is that you)

I would love you to also be Mady's parent.

Some parents do not count their Multiple Ble8sings. They just.......Oh it is not even worth my breath.

My favorite moment of Jon and Kate + 8:

There are so many.

1. Chocolate World
2. 4th of July in Outer Banks
3. 4th of July in Jon's Hometown
4. Soup and a Surprise
5. 1st Day of School for the Twins
6. Shopping for 10
7. Christmas Caroling
8. Valentines Eppy (both)

Oh the memories...

perhaps they would show Kate's interview from Monday stating that she has never meationed the Paparazzi to her kids. Then show the spot from the trip to ship were she told her boys to shot the Paparazzi! The kids should be taken away from her before she does them harm. In Kate's life there is only one number one and that is Kate. She comes before her kids and we know that she always put herself before Jon.

I think my final best moment before this plays out tonight & Tropical Storm Ida dumps some rain on us, is the many many times (too many to count) that Kate & Jon have used their show to try to convince us this is alright for their children.

1st we get the we all decide as a family line ~~~~ sure!

Then we get the TLC (u know exactly where I stand with them) line that the show gives mom an opportunity to stay home. -Sure!

Finally all the attempts that can be seen by these parents on a show by show basis. It has only solidified my opinion that this was/is harmful to children and there should be laws to reform/regulate a parent's & companies inability to make the best decisions for their kids.

I guess I can only hope......

Z, thanks to you and all the bloggers for your vigilance in keeping this site protective of the children involved in this sorry mess.

Good luck and thanks again for subjecting yourself to watching yet another round of desperate blather tonight for us. I am interested in knowing if Kate will act all proud of herself if they show clips of her worst moments (hmmm, I guess that would be pretty much all her moments). Or do you think TLC will have Kate, in her commentary, try to act all contrite and apologetic about her words and actions to try to gain sympathy? Aahhh. Never mind. Scratch that question. She wouldn't know a contrite word if it bit her in the behind.

Hi AnnC: It might be interesting to see what this next-to-laast episode looks like. Could we really be this close to the end? Z

I knew it was the calm before the storm. Radaronline is developing a story that Jon is countersuing TLC for 5 million dollars.

Hmmm...this is gonna get uglier and uglier.

Yes, z thanks for watching this crap for us!! Sometime you'll have to do a live blog and we can make a drinking game out of it. How many times will she say memories? How many times will she ask herself a question? How many tears?

And a big thanks for removing nasty comments about the kids. That's why I like this place.

Snark, with the proper amount of decorum! ;)

I liked the early episodes. When the kids were small... I didn't feel too exploited.... and it was obvious that they had lots of loving people in their lives (of course, everybody always wondered where the grandparents were.)

I liked the episodes when each kid got a day to themselves. Mady's my heroine... as she's been protecting her brothers from the get-go. Sadly, no child should have to keep an evil Mom from throwing her 3 year old brother's beloved teddy bear in the trash.

It's telling to see how Jon always idealized his Dad... spoke lovingly of him... their times together... yet Kate never said one nice thing about her parents. No doubt the kids will say nice things about Jon, but not Kate.

I really truly hope that Kate wakes up because if she isn't, youtube is going to be the only place she'll see her kids. There was an article in the NYTimes recently about divorcing one's parents... I fear that's Kate's future.

Interesting, some of my favorite moments involve Mady at her best:

* K8 claiming that Mady was thrilled to be her maid-of-honor at the vow renewal, Mady looks straight at her and says " I am not!"

* K8 is yelling at Jon (what else is new?)because he is playing with the twins instead of cleaning the garage, all while sitting on her white, plastic throne. Later on the interview couch, Mady says something like" Daddy plays with us, Mommy acts like Queen and just gives orders"
*During one of the interviews Mady is asked if K8 is a good mom. Mady HESITATES (HA!), grudgingly says yes, and then adds " but I still like Daddy better"

She is precocious and perceptive way beyond her years. She knows K8 is full of BS.

I am ashamed to admit that, in the beginning, I too thought Mady was a brat. Then I realized that Mady is just a very frustrated little girl and the only way she knows how to vent is to act out, much like her mother.

There have been many scenes where Mady wasn't so nice and there have also been many scenes where Mady shows what a big heart she has. GO MADY!

I hope I'm not too late! The show is about to air on the West Coast! My favorite show for the kids was the birthday party with the carnival theme because it was so fun for the kids and because Aunt Jodie, Beth, and Nana Janet were there to share it with them. It was obvious that they really cared for those kids. Regarding Kate- the show where they move into the new house was so revealing. First, Kate stands at the window in the kitchen and says something like "as far as the eye can see; mine, all mine". Then she calls the kids into the master bedroom to look at it and tells the kids they are NEVER, EVER going to enter Mommy and Daddy's room and she makes Jon relunctantly repeat it.

At the risk of sticking my neck out here, I'm going to give Z some back up here as he has taken one for the team for so many weeks now. My take on the following scenes and I will abstain from comedic interjection and be totally neutral.

The coupons: Totally, totally abusive. This would be a classic scene for spousal abuse if I've ever seen one. Threat's to shoot him went uncommented on yet when Governor Ehrlich's wife (Governor of Maryland) said she could shoot Britany Spears, the national press picked up on it and made it a weeklong news item.

Again, it's TLC's whitewash to make Kate look coy and cute.

"Pull the stick out". Hmmmm, Kate has berated Jon for "five seasons" and when Jon says "Pull the stick out", Kate is hurt, embarrassed, disgusted that he would talk to her in that tone. Again, look at her response and it's all about Me, I, Me, i.e. Kate.
Then, in the ending frame, she says with her Jack Nicholson arched eyebrows from "THE SHINING", perhaps is was a sign of things to come". Cackling like the wicked witch from the west. It just gets worse.

Toys R Us: "He just annoyed me. He was playing with toys" Again, all about how she was tired, blew it off and made it all about her. Her words, "Yueah, that was a wake up call for me. Yueahhhh, not so good to do that in public".

Okay Kate, it's okay to do it in private?

Cutest Kid Moment: " Kate holding Alexis and saying in her monotone voice: "Let go, I'm busy working" as Alexis is giving love kisses.

"Wonder if she's 15 if she'll do that".. Then Kate says: "Yeah Right" with such disgust, Alexis will have this google moment at 15.

Tummy Tuck: Kate tells her daughter regarding her new hair color, "Pretty, Pretty, say pretty". Most moms having been gone for a week from their kids would have said, "You're pretty, I missed you. You are so special".
At the end of the clip, Kate says, "I don't ever want to miss a week of your life again".

HELLO!!! OVER HERE!!! I've been gone on book signings 22 days each month. I digress.

TOP OUCHIE MOMENT:
Kids pummeling each other with bricks, bats, Dodge Rams or whatever they could muster in their tiny hands and Kate's response: "Boys are so rough". HELLO!!! AGAIN!!! We've seen the girls doing it too.

Nala's sick:

Kate admits she was traveling and when she gets home, Nala is still sick. Jon did nothing about it so Kate takes her to the vet. Kate's response? "$2,000 dollars later, that was an expensive one". All the while her boys are saying how Nala is bleeding and needs a cast. Where's the concern for Nala and not the dolla Kate?

Joel learning to ride the bike: TLC forgets that some of us have memories. In the actual clip, John was running down the street next to his kids learning to ride bikes. At one point, Jon was roller blading at the same time and Kate is standing in the driveway, shouting at him like a dog gone loose saying "You have to watch your kids". What a white wash on this scene too.

Ov VEY...... It just gets better.

Camping Out:

Kate says, "I just got out of the tent, It was just terrible" Talking about the rainstorm the night before and nothing about the kids. Typical.

Alidagtors: The first scene all night that Kate didn't say, Me, I, Myself, MY MY MY.

Daddy's Have Weiners: Well, we won't go there considering all the tabloid accusations. I'm sure Kate didn't want to touch on that clip either. We all know from Stephanie Santoro, Hailey Glassman and the other Kate, all know about this.

Gang, We're just halfway through and I just can't do this anymore. Z... You are the man. Pick up the slack here because I have a flight on Wednesday and I need my rest. Watching another half hour of this crazy woman would be like counting head hairs. I'm done.

Kate is annoying, and so not cute nor funny. Was it my imagination or were all the memories around Kate and the tups? And not to have anything kind to say about Jon was deplorable.

Hi, I agree. Please see the new post I just put up reviewing the hour. Thanks. Z

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About David Zurawik
I've been The Baltimore Sun's TV critic since 1989. My writings on TV and media have appeared in such publications as TV Guide, Esquire magazine and American Journalism Review. I have a Ph.D. in American Studies from the University of Maryland, College Park, and an M.A. in specialized reporting (on popular culture) from the University of Wisconsin. I'm the author of The Jews of Prime Time (Brandeis University Press), a look at 50 years of Jewish characters and identity on network TV. I have also been with WYPR-FM (88.1) radio since 1994 and can be heard Thursday mornings at 7:30 doing a weekly "Take on Television" report.
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