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November 24, 2009

'Jon & Kate' finale: live chat

David Zurawik will be live at noon (that's in about 15 minutes!) to chat with readers about "Jon & Kate Plus 8" finale. Submit questions and comments starting now, then stay tuned for 12 p.m.!


Posted by Carla Correa at 11:42 AM | | Comments (28)
        

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Z, Irene had asked for a song I posted on GWOP to be posted on the last day. Instead I wrote a new, more hopeful one for kids.

Let There Be Peace In Wernersville

Let there be peace in Wernersville
And let begin for me.
Let there be peace in Wernersville
The peace that was meant for me.
With Jon as our Father
And Katie, Lordly Be.
My siblings and I miss Aunt Jodi,
And Cousin Benny.

Let peace begin for me
Let this be the moment now.
With every game we play
Let this be my solemn vow.
To take each moment
And live each moment
With peace in anonymity,
Let there be peace in Wernersville
And let it begin for me.

Let there be peace in Wernersville
And let begin for me.
Let there be peace in Wernersville
The peace that was meant for me.
With Jon as our Father
And Katie, Lordly Be.
My siblings and I miss Aunt Jodi,
And Cousin Benny.

Let peace begin for me
Let this be the moment now.
With every day we live
Let this be our solemn vow.
To grow up and sue TLC.
Let there peace in Wernersville
And let it begin for me!

Finally, Kate has her epiphany. She once thought that her fans were "annoying". But now, Lordy Bee, she realizes that it is because of them that there is a show. Wow - took five seasons to figure that one out. Maybe brain surgery is in her future.

Kate keeps complaining that everything was taken away from HER. She lost her television personna innocense and now she can't get it back. Poor poor Kate! I hope she grows up and becomes the good mother that she purports to be. This show has been a huge disappointment for me. I used to really look forward to it; however all the fighting, etc. ruined it for me. I am so glad that Jon was able to stop the filming of his children. I am sure they will benefit from having a normal life.

Z, mark your calendar. Dec 9 Kate Gosselin Barbara Walters pick for most fascinating people of 2009.

How much Monkey munch did TLC pay for that bid? Or yet, how bad is Barbara Walters quest to keep up with the liars of cable now! (Hey all, another earpiece interview)

Hi Ruth, It is so nice to see your posts. They always calm me down.

Everyday, I think I am about over this whole ordeal. I just cannot believe it all came to this. And, Kate & the lying channel get rewarded for being the biggest liars to hit the TV. I used to think tabloids were villains. Tlc & Kate just surpassed any bad I have ever thought about a tabloid. Heck, I witnessed a paparazzi give to a charity on their show last night...heck of alot better than what I seen Kate & Tlc do.

Anyway, Ruth and others please keep coming back. We need your voices of reason.

nnanb Thanks a whole bunch. I am so worked up...@ least the kids have not been filmed in awhile now.

Last night was not any new film, it was not Jon's current couch talk, it was just a finale from the biggest liars to hit cable & their dog Kate, trying to show their side of peace on earth & good will toward spin~ not Jon. They failed miserably.


The poor kids of Tuesday night.....

I guess at least I know the truth.

Ruth, I don't think the kids will ever have a "normal" life. Neither parent is normal. They will always be a dysfunctional family. Hopefully the children can succeed in spite of their parents. After watching last night's episode I think that's all that they can hope for.

Jon - celebrating his "freedom". What a message to send your kids Jon.

Kate - After talking badly about their father, Kate then goes on to say she will never talk bad about about their father. (shrugging)

Remember on the Ellen show when Kate said, "some people need to shut their mouths." I think she and Jon should both shut their mouths. And I sincerely hope TLC loses millions in sponsorship money.

During the chat, Z said something to the effect that TLC tried to persuade him that Kates not that bad. Z you didn't crack, good for you. Thats class for sure. Its good to know that people who can make a difference won't back down to that farce. You have great integrity and I do hope you write a book and expose the dangers of this reality show nightmare.


Sorry gang, I was here but couldn't find a link to the chat for some reason. I kept backing out, refreshing, logging back in, etc., but never found it?

No biggie, cuz it looks like even one more person might have blown up Carla's laptop!

Z, if you write your book I would be happy to volunteer with research and contacts.

You could see how short Jon's fuse was last night. The way he treated the twins was horrible.

He has lost his moral compass and now he looks unhappy.

I hope people will learn from this tragic breakdown of this family. We need to get back to having strong families. How very sad this is.

Ha, Ha, Z. Because the ratings were high, TLC couldn't wait to let ROL know. Maybe when you write your book you can include how TLC plants information in the tabloids.

nanb - I like the song. Maybe Z can include it at the end of the book.

The live chat was great. I just re-read it. There were some great comments. It got a little hard to keep up, but it was great.

Z, I asked this in the live chat, but you didn't have the opportunity to answer me.
Have you ever attempted to interview either Jon or Kate?
I'd pay to see that interview live.

Oh, please it made around 4 million in ratings. You know they are bragging in the media, but behind closed doors that is not a drop in the bucket to what they are having to pay those Attorneys to fight Jon Gosselin, the bodyguards and staff for Kate Gosselin.

They are disappointed up in management you can bet. They are not saying it but they are scratching their heads you can bet. This is a business and Kate's quest for 'Mine all mine is bring down the brand"

They spent all their monkey munch on this season 5, that should have never happened in the 1st place. They will live to regret this move. Mark my words.

I was all upset this afternoon, but it is all clearer to me. We need to be high 5ing eachother, those children are off TV for now at least, and that my friends was not in their stack of cards.

We might be in the minority of the media but we are being watched & just like everything else it will catch. We just have to stick to the truth, it always comes out in the watch.

TEAM 8...

Oh, and Z...let them try to come after you & haul you away...You got us blogging North, South, East and West, we have your back. They might have the scorched earth attorneys...but we are the scorched earth bloggers if I ever seen any.


nanb, your song reduced me to tears.

Dear God, let there be peace for Cara, Mady, Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah and Joel. The peace you meant them to have. Amen.

I just need something clarified.

So many people are comparing Jon's interview sessions with Kate's, and implying Jon's comments were inappropriate and "selfish" because he talking mostly about himself (moving to New York, etc.)

Isn't it true that Jon's interview sessions were, in fact, filmed earlier in the summer? So that means Jon wasn't discussing the end of the show at all. Given that information, doesn't this put a different light on the things he said?

Thank you Marie, yes, Jon's interview segments were on or around Aug 25, the farm visit was Sep 9.

Kate got the upperhand because Kate is playing the game. That was a smearfest against the father of children that shut the gravy train down. Whatever his intentions at least he did it. And, when greedy corporations decide they know what is better for kids then their own parents...they have crossed the line. And, Eileen Oneill, I am ready, willing and able to argue that point with you.

Marie,

Very perceptive of you. I think you're totally right - he was not answering questions about the end of the show. His interviews were taped during the summer.

TLC so clearly wants to steamroll this poor schlub.

I'm still boycotting TLC and encouraging everyone I know to do the same. It's not hard - a lot of my friends and family think very poorly of the channel that shamelessly makes money from exploiting children. Exhibit A - J&K plus 8. Exhibit B - Toddlers and Tiaras. Exhibit C - 18 kids, etc... the list goes on and on. This channel falsely bills itself as celebrating large family when it is actually destroying them for profit.

Yes, Carolina The Lying channel cares nothing about decency it is all about the almighty contract.

Funny, how the court documents with TLC indicate Jon was not able to photograph his own children.~~~that is how limiting the contract is...but if you google the word Gosselin, 1,860,000 images and articles pull up.........So the whole world can photograph the kids, but the parents cannot. No wonder Kate had that camera out during filming so much.

Go to Lillian Glass' site...

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

Scroll down to the analyses of David Beckham. Look at the loving expression on his face while comforting his son. What a joy to see a real father. I never saw that loving, calm and tender expression from Jon or Kate.

Re the interviews during the final; episode. Remember Im sure that kate had many "takes" and lots of editing before we saw the finished product, as well as her PR team etc told her what to wear and it wouldnt surprise me if she was wearing an earpiece so she could be told how to respond and when to become emotional.

Jon on the other hand (and Im not defending kate in any way) really looked like a slob and acted very immaturely. I was surprised - he acted like a surly teenager - slouching in the chair etc.

My other remark - that I dont know that anyone mentioned - kate's remark that "it gave her the opportunity to "go to work" and take the kids will her". She really needs a reality check. There would have been no show without the kids - the kids were working not kate.

I am baffled that barbara walters would name her the most fascinating person for 2009. It really degrades the award that should be going to someone to really deserves it. There are many many single moms, going through very hard times and managing very well.

I read somewhere that they discussed kate on the view and how happy they are that the show is over. Unfortunately because I live in canada, I cant watch the show - has anyone seen it to know if this is true? How twofaced of barbara talking out of both sides of her mouth

I thought this was kind of interesting

http://www.tv.com/the-life-and-death-of-jon-and-kate/story/19757.html?tag=news_hub_stories;

This is really what is mostly being written now. I really don't know where TLC think they are going with KG its over. She did say one thing right all this was avoidable, but bc of Jon like she tried to convey, but because of all of them. It just doenst work like that.

Karenfromcanada I was baffled by Barbara Walters to when I found out....not anymore.

Jon is really the fascinating one. He stopped a multi-million dollar corporation right in its tracks. Of course, his contract will not allow for him to do any outside press or engagements without TLC permission. The kids are next, but the dad, stopped all filming, the dogs got exiled, so all that is left of the mess is the person Kate.

Clear as mud?

Happy Thanksgiving to the BBF (best blogger friends) on the internet.

Hey Avis, thanks for the link. That picture of David Beckham was precious.

There was also an excellent article dated November 24, 2009 regarding Jon & Kate "While the Reality Show is Finally Over for Jon and Kate, The Real Life Show Just Began For the Kids- Get Them Into Therapy NOW!"

Well thanks for the link.

I hope you all have a Safe and Happy Thanksgiving

While Kate is bawling on camera about losing her tv career and fat paycheque, her children have to suffer the indignity of having their private lives made public, so much so that when when they leave home people are calling out their names and mentioning scenes from episodes, taking their pictures, shouting out terms of adoration and affection total strangers simply should not have... and even when the kids come home from school and report this discomfort to Kate she sneers and snarls and reminds them they got toys and a mansion out of it. Or maybe they have to share this stuff with the hired staff knowing it is of no use to talk to self absorbed narcisstic Kate. If there is a dime to be made off of these children on Thanksgiving or Christmas, Kate will have that angle covered. What a vile mother she is.

Hail BBF -- Great stuff, don't forget to include the real info whenever possible.. I need all the help I can get!

I am scrambling to catch up - but have to grab snippets of blog time between family visits and turkey day festivities.

Never fear BBF, I am here..give me a bit of time to catch up. I am still dealing with all the wiki questions submitted after the final episode.. but I am craving some real info on the demise of the "realist reality show."

Wiki~

Kate really did say the show ended too soon.

Tlc really did use the show to prove they have a vendetta over the father of the children stopping the filming. That 1st shot of the fence & the sign is proof.

The fire station footage was taped on Aug 25, the farm footage Sept 9. ~~evidence Paparazzi footage on Radaronline.

Jon's taped footage was not his most current statements or thoughts. TLC edited the worst of his couch interviews and exploited him to make Kate look like a selfless mother~ Bombshell she looked like a skunk, her thoughts & statements sounded like a skunk & the whole show stunk like a skunk.

LOL. You definately have your work cut out for you. I would not want to be in your shoes. Because there is no truth to be had for the layers & layers of lies have somehow been spun into the truth according to a lying channel. & the collateral damage is 8 kids.

Hey Wiki...one more thing.

Kate wanted to have Jon~ she got him

Kate wanted children ~ she got them

Kate wanted a reality show ~ she got it

Kated wanted to further her career and be gone 22 or more days a month with a bodyguard, limo rides and all the perks~ She got that


Now~
Kate now has a heavy mortgage, debts out her eyeballs, the eternal love and devotion of The Lying channel,staff to take care of her children & home,and a divorce. Oh, and out of it she gets to have Barbara Walters interview her on December 9.

Clear as mud?!? This situation is just calling for David Zurawic to make his New years resolution to start researching and writing that book. No pressure...........

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About David Zurawik
I've been The Baltimore Sun's TV critic since 1989. My writings on TV and media have appeared in such publications as TV Guide, Esquire magazine and American Journalism Review. I have a Ph.D. in American Studies from the University of Maryland, College Park, and an M.A. in specialized reporting (on popular culture) from the University of Wisconsin. I'm the author of The Jews of Prime Time (Brandeis University Press), a look at 50 years of Jewish characters and identity on network TV. I have also been with WYPR-FM (88.1) radio since 1994 and can be heard Thursday mornings at 7:30 doing a weekly "Take on Television" report.
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