Z,
Dr. Lillian Glass remarked about this in her blog. She said that the entire interview with Jon and Hailey was contrived and the two of them were being deceptive. I also have to question why Jon was present during Haileys meltdown on "The Insider" last week. It appears that the two of them are pulling a scam in an effort to collect money from these tabloid television shows. I don't believe these two are dating, breaking up or even had a relationship. It's all for the camera and cash.

Hi Kelly, That is a fascinating hypothesis. She might be right. I would not put it past them. If that is true, it makes Jon even more of a grifter than I thought he was. Thanks for whoever introduced the term "grifter" on this blog for Jon and Kate, because it is the perfect term for them. Z

I think the Gosselins (both) know that their 15 minutes of fame is almost up. Therefore, they're trying to cash in as much as humanly possible before the gravy train ends. They don't care how pathetic, psychotic, or irrational they appear. They've sold their souls to the almightly dollar a long time ago.

Where is court ordered therapy when you need it?

Dr. Lillian Glass evaluated the interview on her blog and thinks they are faking everything. Guess Jon & Hailey feel bad publicity is better than no publicity. Kate was getting too much coverage so they had to one up her.

Seriously, court ordered therapy for Jon, Kate and the kids NOW.

YES! It is a good thing Jon and kate didn't have to take tests to be parents. These two are astonishing. Z

Seriously, this is not going to end well.

If TLC cares enough to foot the bill for a bodyguard, how about some $$ for professional help for these two? (Protect them from themselves!)

Sorry to disagree Z but I don't think Jon is cracking up - he's fighting to stay in the tabloids and outdo Kate. He could easily turn his life around and get out of the spotlight but it's obvious he doesn't want to. Geez, one stupid reality show and he turns into a media-ho.

"If she thinks I'm abusive I have to let her go. I CANT DEAL WITH THAT GUILT." Nancy Grace was right, it all about him. This is fascinating to see someone so deluded continue to make the same mistakes over and over, each time a little worse. Will it ever end?

...Jon and Kate Gosselin are completely devoid of decency and goodness. Both lie, lie, lie and contradict themselves constantly, and neither has the grace to be ashamed. Both appear too stupid to see their own contradictions, amazingly.

Yes sir, two pillars of Christian virtue, fallen on hard times! Maybe they should sing the blues a little louder, rake in more love offerings, then whine about how hard it is to be a single parent. Kate still needs that new ring and Jon needs a tummy tuck.

Z you must stay strong "for the sake of all the bloggers"

Unflippin" believable...Ok

1st we have a married couple that manipulates the would of infertility and gets another set of multiples. I am sure they never envisioned 6 but they got um.

Immediately the web site cranks, the gimmeee gimmee gimmee x 6 starts.

2nd they play out their reality in an unrealistic reality show ~~~they compliment it with speaking engagements at churches, book deals, and almost got Healthtex and another book deal....

3rd they play out their marital problems for the whole world to see. They decide to seperate for PEACE....Honey children wake up this has been nothing but chaos.

4th they play out the divorce for all it's worth. 1 month after a bank account is drained courts, media, the whole works.

5th now the Kate who has journalists/show hosts like Mary Hart saying she gave a "CANDID & HONEST" interview also has a nitwit Husband who is not divorced yet but smearing his relationship with his girlfriend all over the tabloids....Gosh darn I feel like I am on a SIX FLAGS HORROR RIDE....& they are spreading their dirt all over America...

& let's not forget to throw in that now the father who is being sued for breach of contract is cementing TLC'S BRAND of this family in the JOKER HALL OF FAME. Joey Buttafuco, Tammy Faye Baker you have been knocked down a peg.

The only thing I got out of all this is a headache!!!The doctor told me today I suffer from GOSSELINPHRENIA....I told him to hit the high road. I think I owe him an apology.

What will be the straw that breaks the camel's back because all I am seeing is they are taking us all to the CLEANERS Gosselin style....Take the money and run!!!

Z, please do not leave us now on this. I need somewhere to vent with a journalist whom is not going to take the GOSSELIN HIGH ROAD that the rest of the media has...& I really did smile this morning when I did not see their pictures in the supermarket check out line.

UGH

I am not going to mean about Mary Hart. But I would expect nothing less of her than for her to think what happened Monday night was a "caandid" interview. The hosts of these tabloid shows are not journalists in any way shape or form. They are entertainers. I am in this for the long haul. This is to good and illuminating a story to walk away from before it ends. Thanks. Z

Listen, media people: Dysfunction in Action is NOT entertainment.

What's wrong with the decision-makers in the media that they continue to serve up this tripe and try to shove it down our collective throats with ever new versions of Jerry Springer-like fodder?

Taking this kind of conversation, complete with someone dramatically storming off set while the melodramatic music plays on is cheap and vulgar.

I have ZERO respect for those participating in any way in the broadcast of this kind of bogus 'reality'.

Am I to believe these 'interviews' are spontaneous and honest? Puhleeze.

SHOUTING NOW: I do not want to watch people so incredibly dysfunctional that they are willing to discuss (or PRETEND they are speaking about) their personal lives on national tv. Don't want to see it. Don't want to hear it. Don't want to read it.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW????!!

Jon, ask the Governor back your position as an IT specialist.

Kate, hit the High Road and renew your nursing license.

This is gonna go done in history. Rags to Riches to Rags all before the sextuplets turn 10.

HA HA TLC.

I think Jon & Hailey needed money so they cooked this up to earn a paycheck.

And Z.. GWOP has posted a direct link to your site, so you better find that assistant, FAST!

Ha. Glad to hear about GWOP. Very nice. But the assistant thing will never happen I am sad to say. Thanks. Z

This is such an act. It is a friggin circus. This is all in an attempt to keep Jon and Kate's name out there. If it is not him,kit is her. Why would anyone care about these people? What exactly are they famous for? Doesn't this skank girl have a family who can talk sense into her? Isn't her dad a doctor? I know this is all for publicity but why do this to yourself? She is all made up but she is still fat and ugly and she complains that people call her fat and ugly. Well then, stay off TV and stay anonymous in your life. This was all planned anyway. The kids are all now school age and will not be able to film like in the past. They were scheduled to end in November and this is being done for sweeps. TLC is having all new premieres this month and J&K were scheduled to end. Kate has moved on with her career beyond TLC. All this is a plan to make her look like a SuperMom and Jon like a loser. He will benefit, that you can be sure of. They will not divorce that is why all the delays in court. By the way, Jon doesn't even have a lawyer!

Looks like Hailey got her reality show after all--7 minutes worth anyhow.

Now I believe we may have been scammed. I think the odds are greater than 50% that by Christmas they will be back together "working on" their relationship, the kids will be filmed again, and that another vow renewal is coming up. I wonder what the ratings will be for that?

If I'm right, I hope the Pennsylvania court system punishes them both for wasting its time.

Yes, "working" on the relationship means Jon will be living over the garage. Hey, if it will keep off ET....Z

Good grief.

We've all been focused on the damage the reality show has done to the kids -- rightfully so -- but look at what it has done to JON.

Is he so accustomed to the cameras, the lighting, the "friendly" interviewer asking probing questions, the lack of control over what is finally aired and what is not, that he has lost all sense of personal boundaries? He chats with papparazzi and tabloid reporters like they were old buddies, drinking beer together in his basement.

The contrast between the two is startling. Kate, so much a product created for the show that it's hard to tell whether we're watching and listening to an Animatronics miracle or a wax museum knockoff; and Jon, so dogged in his attempts to reject network and industry dictates that he also tosses away whatever bit of social grace and forethought he ever possessed.

Unreal (pardon the pun, lol).

During the Great Depression people found many forms of inexpensive entertainment. Is this just cheap entertainment for the masses as we wait out this economic mess?

I'm pretty much speechless at this point.

Aly, I think it is, and that is a brilliant insight. This is the kind of freakshow stuff people flocked to during the Great Depression. And that era was also a heyday for grifters like Jon & Kate. Great insight. Z

Kelly I can sympathize with what your saying. The Glassman's though got involved in this because of the wife seeing an episode where Kate showed her Jaws to us. She asked her husband (a plastic surgeon) to do the tummy tuck and took Kate into their home for a week of recovery.

Further, it has been reported that in the winter when Kate did not want Jon in the house he stayed at the Glassman's. I just do not think they would let Hailey be used like that. I think she was there Jon was there & they did hook up. Where I follow what you are saying is that Jon and Hailey are generating cash $$$$$$ and all of this is just really fabricated for a quick dollar.

He does rent a 5,000 a month apt and did put 180,000 back in the marriage account.

Oh Jeez Louise, this is getting so out-of-this-world ridiculous.

I agree with you, Kelly and Dr. Glassman. This was so contrived.

Oh my gosh, those poor kids. Can you even imagine being raised by these people? That THESE are the people you're supposed to look up to? These are the people charged with making you feel safe and loved?

This has to be some kind of indirect form of child abuse. These people are obscene and grotesque.

I'm sorry to be melodramatic. I go back and forth between laughing my butt off at the greedy Gosselins to feeling so bad for the kids. Right now, I'm very much feeling the latter.

Emily, you may be correct. I have a difficult time wrapping my mind around how low people will stoop for money. But we all know about money and evil. I guess it doesn't matter how stupid, pathetic and money grubbing one looks or how much they may hurt others (like their children) as long as they get paid for it.

Next on TLC... TLC's version of the Bachelorette featuring Hailey! Intro... "Hailey trusted Jon. Loved Jon. Now, Jon is back with Kate, can Hailey find a love of her own?"

I still do think Jon has slightly more awareness than Kate.. and has been a better parent. It's not a major different.. but a slight one.

This interview seemed way to fake to me. Jon and Hailey breaking up on camera. It is not even realistic. I think it was all done for ET. If they do break-up I am sure it was planned anyway. Neither one of them seemed sincere to me. Probably for ratings.

I agree with both Kelly and Emily.

My first take after watching the clip is that it is a set-up. The whole interview and responses are too overdone, too disingenuous. Jon getting up and storming off cinched it for me that this is bad acting.

It's not within the realm of possibility to take Kate or Jon seriously ever again. They have flung far too much crap at the viewers.

The credibility is definitely somewhere beyond strained. Z

"And Now It Is Jon Gosselin's Turn To Act Out On TV"

Operative word here: ACT

What an incredible load of crap.

I agree HotDog. This act really is getting old for both of them. Z

Unfreaking believable! WHAT the ... was Jon thinking? Obviously his brain cells are fried!! Doesn't he SEE what he is doing? To add salt to his wounds, Hailey tells him, "...you're not doing my family a favor..." And she says she loves him?! She just used his ... for her own fame mongering. JON, WAKE UP!

Z, I have my own personal mantra, "NOBODY ... me over unless I GIVE THEM PERMISSION! Did I give you permission?!" Then I FIGHT the fight on my OWN terms. Jon allows crazy people to influence him, use him & jump on his back like monkies then spit him out and stomp all over him. What a fool!

His chronical age is NOT 32. He was traumatized at a very young age so his emotional age is probably at a 22. Oh, that the age he married Kate. OR could it be he's emotionally stunted at the age his parents divorced, how old was he when that happened?!

Jon needs a serious INTERVENTION from a team of experts. He has told so many lies, he can't keep track of the lies. WTF?!

Z, sorry for the rant. I just cannot believe the Gosselin tragedy. BOTH Jon & Kate need to go back to basics because they need to learn how to be decent honest human beings. In the mean time while their BOTH going off the deep end, WHATS HAPPENING TO THE CHILDREN? Oh, the nanny is raising them!

Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first deceive! You can't find peace or begin to resolve serious issues if there are too many lies to uncover.

Z, peace out to you & all the sane bloggers! LOVE your blog topics!

Hi Kahu 50: As followers of the blog know, I am someone given to rant from time, too, at the madness of our media. Thanks for the final message of peace to the sane bloggers. Z

Jon & Kate Plus 8 the equivalent of the Jerry Springer Show....Tlc you outdid yourselves

As I watched the interview I thought it was obvious that the breakup was a publicity stunt for cash. However, after Jon whined "If she thinks I'm abusive I have to let her go. I can't deal with that guilt." it appeared to be enough self pity or goading to let Hailey comfortably bring up his issues with crying and lying. Whoa! Then Jon started gritting his teeth and glaring. What a JERK. How can the Glassman's stand having such a self-centered man anywhere near their daughter. And if Hailey feels abused now during this supposed infatuation phase, just wait until she tells the idiot what to do! Watch out!

Oh heck - let's skip to the next chapter & hear that Hailey is pregnant.... ;-)

tb, I would laugh, but you are probably going to be proven right. Z

I just caught up on Dr. Lillian Glass's posts and - wow - do I ever fear for the kids now.

Kate is unstable; Jon is unstable; Kate has anger and other countless issues with her parents and unless she gets professional help RIGHT AWAY, she will pass all of this hurt & neuroses on to her kids.

I don't understand why the State of PA hasn't assigned someone to represent the welfare of the children.

This is not their first tv interview for tv people.

Irene, you recommended in your post above: "Kate, hit the High Road and renew your nursing license".

Her nursing license was renewed the week she was in LA. For what reason? Who knows, as it's a given that she'd never find a job in the nursing field, nor that she'd ever lower herself to do manual labor. She has aspirations of acting, you know. lol IMO, she renewed the license to give the impression that she was willing to work as a nurse, but with no intention of doing it.

I think the BEST way to put it is Jon and Kate is the Spencer and Heidi of the reality TV world. And what's even more laughable is last week the Yahoo celebrity photo page had a series of photos of Spencer and Heidi dressed up as Jon and Kate.

With all due respect :

I wouldn't give too much credibility to Dr. Glassman and her "analyses" or Rabbi Shmuley and his "guidance". They are no better than any of the others looking to cash in on the Gosselin debacle.

WHY nobody is taking a stand to protect those poor kids is beyond me.

ooops, sorry, meant Dr Glass

Z - did you see the article on Fox which talked about how Jon and Hailey are fabricating this tension to get more interviews and more money for themselves? A source close to Jon has said that this is all manufactured to keep the drama going as long as possible. What an example he is setting for his children. What a goon - both of them, actually.

Z - regarding the "pregnancy race" - I've thought about this for awhile - which divorced Gosselin is going to turn up pregnant first? Jon & Hailey (or whoever) .....OR....Kate - hasn't she always said she "wanted to know what it would be like to have JUST ONE......."

Will a pregnant mother of 8 squeeze out a little more sympathy and reality show airtime? How WILL she ever manage? TLC shares in the "UNEXPECTED" happiness of Kate Gosselin - just when she thought all hope was gone of ever holding a newborn in her arms...... Share in the EVENT OF THE YEAR - the joys of new parenthood - the Joy of Kate Gosselin...."

Dear Lord - I'm scaring myself !!!!! *LOL*

Hailey can't get pregnant by Jon because he is fixed. In many interviews and in her book Kate has said Jon was not ready to have kids but she was and was pregnant with the twins just 7 months after they married.. After that he has said he was happy with the two girs and knew they could not afford more but Kate wanted just one more. He was very devastated by the sextuplet pregnancy and it is in her book. After that he said no more. Good for him.Good for us!

Irene,
Dr. Glassman did a tummy tuck on Kate, knowing full well that his procedure was going to be part of TLC's program. I'm certain he too, had to sign a confidentiality agreement as well.

If Hailey's mother wanted to be benevolent and implore her husband to perform a tummy tuck on Kate, they could have done this under the radar.

How is it that this obscure doctor who had nothing to do with this family ended up on television? How did Jon end up staying at this obscure, unknowing Doctors home when supposedly he and Kate had split? Jon has brothers, a mother, a best friend who recently died. Why, of all people, did he end up befriending the Glassmans, staying at their home and then, seducing their 22 year old daughter? It's a scam, a sham and a TLC attempt to garner ratings. Nothing short of that.

If Jon is looking for some normalcy in his life, he should take himself out of the spotlight and find a regular job. It would bode well for him in the eyes of the courts and the public, not to mention his kids.

Wow, this guy NEVER shuts up now! He really is a pathetic loser, I feel so sorry for those kids that they have to put up with these two clowns as parents.

I now think that the show with Jon and Hailey was fake. How can Hailey keep putting Jon down and say she loves him at the same time?

Am I the only one getting a sneaking suspicion that we are being played by Jon & Kate, et al?

Not at all. They are hustlers and grifters, after all. Z

The clip is interesting but highly edited. Hailey is on ET as an obvious ploy to promote herself for a part in reality TV. Once again Jon made a critical mistake by jumping in. And again, he does himself no favors. Their only motivation is to bring attention to themselves. It's soap opera 101 without the talent. I am totally sick of reality and tabloid shows. TV has gotten as low as it can get.

You are right about TV hitting a low with characters like this. Thank you, TLC. Z

Good for you Jon. You have to stop doing these interviews. It's a shame you sat through most of that interview, you should have walked away long before.

How can anyone not feel sorry for Jon? Kate came up to him one day (well over a year ago) and told him it was over. He didn't ask for this. He tried to make it work (only god knows why) but Kate is a psychotic bitch. So he goes out and has a small midlife crisis (AS A FREE MAN) and now the world hates him. Everything you see Kate say has been written by her PR team. But not Jon. He's always done candid interviews.

Most of us on here liked the show when it first started. It was a cute and funny family. But Kate took it too far with the constant filming, berating her husband, and just all over bad personality. So as time went on, fan by fan started to hate this show and feel it was bad for the children. Unfortunately, it took Jon longer to figure out. But now he has, give him a break.

Jon, stop with Hailey. Understand the midlife crisis you are going through. You can go out and date who you want, but leave your heart at home. You can't be involved in committed and serious relationships when you got this F'ed up situation at home.

And for the love of god, get yourself a decent PR team or stop giving interviews. You will always lose because Kate has an enourmous PR team writing everything for her.

Saying of the day: 11/05

"Bloggers that stay together get to the bottom of it together!"

I don't know if anyone else has asked about this, but if they do end up saying "we're going to try to work it out" and the get back together like it was all a big hoax, won't the courts try to go after them for restitution for public money spent on all the lawsuits and divorce proceedings that the state has spent money on???

I believe this interview was a way to pay back the money Jon took and spent.

Now ET is hinting that Hailey could be pregnant. I guess they didn't see the many times Jon has said he can't have anymore children. He has on many occasions said he can't physically have anymore implying that he had a vasectomy before he separated from Kate. Anyway, why did he need to, since he was married to someone who couldn't get pregnant with out fertility drugs?

They all lie!

Hi nanb: they do lie. I think Jon paid back the money, according to several news accounts. But maybe paying it back wiped him out. He will need money with TLC suing him. Thaqnks. Z

One correction to my above post it's "The Insider" not "ET" I got my electronic rags mixed up.

This has gone from sad to ridiculous to TOTALLY out of control.

Nothing good is coming of this and WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS?! They are gonna have to deal with the fall-out from this trainwreck for the rest of their lives!

There has to be a way to protect these idiots from themselves and get them off TV and out of the press -- for the sake of the children. Mandatory counseling, gag order .. something!

Rabbi Shmuley seems to be the only voice of reason in this whole mess. I hope and pray that somehow he can help.

This interview is so fake it is laughable if it wasn't so sad. They are getting paid to act. Jon made the mistake of shutting down the show that was his paycheck and now he has no means of making money except to be on these type of shows that pay him. He is a #1 tool. Jon walked off and oh wait.. he will walk back and the interview will go on on tonight's show... should I wait with baited breath? I think not. He will never shut up as long as someone is willing to pay him to talk. She will never shut up cause she is getting paid by TLC to talk. Let their 15 minutes of fame to be over.

My frustration with the whole Gosselin debacle is that TLC has effectively washed its hands of any corporate responsibility for the damaging impacts of the show on the Gosselin children. Perhaps that sounds naive but, when the parents will not and in the absence of appropriate legislation, should it not fall to this corporation to do what the parents will not which is, finally, to put a stop to the children's ordeal by whatever means it takes? I know that Jon has for now stopped the filming but, given the antics of the adults involved, it could start again at anytime. If it is TLC and its pr machine that keep the paps stirred up, then it could stop. Hey, even the British royal family asked for and received special consideration for its young members when they were children.

Thanks, Z, for doing what the other American media will not which is to see through the crap. Having these two as parents is no cakewalk, e.g., the latest tmz video, but they deserve not to have the abuse filmed.

This literally makes me ill. For people to go to the lengths that these two parents are going to to stay on television and to get fees from tabloid TV outlets is just astounding. It really makes you wonder what else they are capable of to continue this charade. I don't think they should be allowed to have control over their children's futures. I hope the courts will appoint a guardian for the children and the money they supposedly have saved for them. I honestly don't believe Kate put any money aside for them. She probably has it in an account in her name somewhere where she can get to it. I don't believe either one of these bumbling idiots.

I re-watched this and this interview on ET actually seemed so contrived (sp) that it almost seems like Jon and Hailey are takiing clues from one another through the interview. Kind of like they had already planned what they would say and how they would say it. If Jon stays with Haliley he really needs to get it together and be supportive and grow-up. He seems like he is trying to act way younger than his age. If he paid back the money he took this would be a step in the right direction to right a wrong, but he has a long way to go.

If this was a hoax between Jon and Kate, the psychological damage on the children would be devastating. CPS would really go after them. I think Jon is just trying to make money off the tabloids.

Maybe having a vasectomy is another one of Jon's lies - who believes either of them about anything they say? Maybe Jon said that to kind of cover-up that he & Kate couldn't get pregnant again - because they stopped sleeping together/having sex. Maybe Kate told Jon he was "cut off" and he considered THAT a "virtual vasectomy" *LOL*

Then, of course, when Hailey or whoever gets pregnant by Jon - it will be TLC's "Miracle Gosselin Baby"... ;-)

I'm not sure if that interview was a fake or not and truthfully, I don't care.

I don't think it holds enough weight to be important, although just what IS important in this ridiculous circus? We all know that answer, which is the CHILDREN are important.

All of those who blog here have the best interest of those children at heart. We constantly witness the 2 parents making a total mockery out of the beloved titles of "mommy & daddy".

Jon has had an "epiphany" and is now being "spiritually advised" by an ex-TLC Rabbi. He keeps saying he is going to be a better man and parent. He is going to put his kids first and make amends to those he has hurt. I really don't care about "those he has hurt", I only care about his children.

Jon, I've tried to give leeway for your behavior, but you keep backtracking, which makes it impossible to believe any of your penitent statements.

Last week, you said you were going to "go back to PA and take care of your children". Well, if you mean that, why are you still in NYC leading a make-believe life with a young woman who has jumped on the 15 Minute Train. Yes, you thought she was "different". But, you continually refuse to admit to yourself that at this stage of your life, anyone who professes interest in you is in it for money & notoriety.

You have accumulated quite the list of "new best friends" who morph into "he/she sold me out" in the past months. Now, little Ms Glassman has added herself to that list. Wow, we are all shocked.

Jon, if you stay out of the spotlight for one month.. ONE MONTH.. I will try to start thinking of you as a redeemable person. Other than that, in my eyes, you can have all the epiphanies and all the mea culpas in the world , but you will always be the washed up ex-reality star who ruined the lives of his own 8 beautiful children.

Well I meant Jon and Hailey were taking cues from one another not clues?

I need to go back to bed. Yikes, I have to get busy.

The sooner this shows goes away the better. I have enjoyed the comments on this video.

I'll be back.

I will be back.

Radaronline is posting that TLC in their lawsuit is deposing Michael Lohan, both Hellers (Jon's personal attorney and agent), Hailey and some bodyguard of Jon's. This is really getting sick. They are going to destroy those kids by destroying Jon. He may be a crazy loser, but he is their loser!

I think you are right about trying to scare -- or break -- him. This is a nasty business. Z

Suing Jon, and in the process, continuing to affect those children's lives, AGAIN, shows us TLC's true nature - and it's morally bankrupt. TLC will not come out of this mess unscathed. For the life of me I cannot figure out why they just don't walk away from this Gosselin mess.

PAULA, nab everyone

Tlc shows me each and every day they will stop at nothing to destroy and get what they want ~~~ hmmm, that is the best you can do TLC?

I do not get it...in the end what will TLC gain by winning this lawsuit. They gonna take the kids home away to get paid back?

Slimey, dirty, nasty, this is getting worse than the the White House scandals or a RICOH mob trial.

Jon saying he had a vasectomy is just a line. I used to use that same line when I was in high school. I am still amazed at how many people believed me too. Those were the days.

Carolina:
"Can you even imagine being raised by these people?"
Actually no I cannot - but then considering their actual biological parents are out media-whoring themselves nearly 24/7 - they thankfully are NOT being raised by those grifters. However, they are being raised by PAID employees - which is worse in its own way, parents who don't care about you enough to even "be" there....

Socali:
"If this was a hoax between Jon and Kate, the psychological damage on the children would be devastating. CPS would really go after them. I think Jon is just trying to make money off the tabloids. "
NOPE - won't happen. There has to be clear and definitive evidence of ABUSE before CPS can do anything - and these two grifters continue to claim that the "kids are ok".

And speaking of suing TLC:
Z - can we make a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT about this Fraud being perpetuated on the airways by TLC? They KNEW the marriage was OVER even though they sent the whole clan to Hawaii.... I'm willing to sign up for a lawyer, maybe we viewers should be MAD AS HELL AND NOT TAKE IT ANYMORE!

Just a thought....again, as I've said before, you need to write a book Z...

Kate doesn't belong in these comments, I think Kate's limited appearances have definitely taken the 'High Road'. She doesn't even speak to the paps. Jon seeks them out every chance he gets.

Jon is still married and he and his sl*t of a girlfriend, deserve all the bad press and comments.

HATEKATE @ 8:57PM -

I had never heard of Rabbi Shmuley before this whole cartoon with Jon started, but I agree with you about Dr. Glass. I do go along with her though in that Jon and Kate are both toxic. The two of them should have jolly rogers tattooed on their foreheads. Plus she really needs to clean up her grammar and spelling errors on her blog if she wants to appear as a credible 'media' psychologist. But I'm nitpitcking now.

I think Jodi and Kevin are the only people with common sense and by their staying out of the limelight right now, that gives some hope that they're the ones who will be literally taking the stand to help those kids.

Pure speculation, but maybe the judge presiding over Jon and Kate's divorce might have ordered them to take parenting classes. That seems to me to be the one thing that Jon and Kate wouldn't want the public to know about, so they've agreed to keep their yaps shut on that subject...if that's possible.

ahem...and of course I see I made a typo in "nitpicking'' while I'm criticizing her spelling. Karma...gets ya every time ;-)

Karma gets me a lot on spelling, too, when I'm in a hurry to post and my head is exploding from listening to an hour of code talk. Ha. Z

Z - I shood clarfy. Typos are esy t mke whn w'er in hurrry. But her blg has aobut too per line. yer revews dont.

I've had a couple that looked like this at 2 a.m. after an especially dreadful J&K, I think. ha. Z

Chrysee-

Rabbi Schmuley was Michael Jackon's "spiritual advisor" so by that alone you can tell there is a certain level of Hollywoodishness to his "teachings". Not to say that he doesn't have some sound advice, but his intent is a little fishy to me.

Scarlett-

K8's "limited appearances" ? Ok.

I have questions, too, about these show biz clerics. Z

I took one for the team and watched the 5 webisodes from TLC of the Kate:her Story that was not in the special.

Since, Tlc may read here...here goes.

Webisode #1 Why I can't fail
Kate had pictures of the kids stuffed under the couch pillow. She pulled them out. She called them "her full set of cards"

Response: I am glad you have their pictures. Go home & be their mom.

Webisode #2: 1ST Holiday apart from Jon
Kate expressed she doesnt know how it will go but "she knows she is not missing it"

Response: That is a hard one. Leave that attitude at the door. Wake up this morning and look in the mirror and say, "for the sake of my kids I will make this day for them even if I have to fake it"

Webisode #3 Tabloids
Kate defends her position she did not invite the tabloid part into her life. She defends not to question her integrity or her as a mom.

Response: When you go all over the country from east coast to west coast and speak out with TLC's blessings you invited this kind of scrutiny. And, People magazine is a tabloid, soft, but it is a tabloid.

Webisode #4 the ring
You stated you will buy the ring when you can buy it yourself.

Response: Praise the Lord. Now can we stop hearing about it every interview. There is a recession in this country. I took a lady last week with 3 kids to the pay bills. She had $500 for a whole month.

Webisode #5 Being Famous
You cringed and said take me off the list.

Response: we would but you keep popping up every time we turn around. You are not doing what the next mom is doing. Many of America's moms do not even get to go to the grocery store without a kid in their buggy!

Finally in Webisode #5 you stated that when all this stuff feels normal, (the wigs, the tabloids, etc) then you don't want to do it anymore.

SURE!

Oh my gosh Chrysee laughing all the way down the Gosselin Highroad.

Is Reading going to give them a water fountain or something for bringing so much joy to their neighborhood?

TLC seems to be loving a family in crisis. I watched Little People Big World on Monday and the tension in that family was awful to watch. I only watched the first show because it was just depressing to see the way the family has changed. If I were the Table for 12 family, I'd be getting out of the clutches of TLC ASAP...the money just can't be worth watching the marriage and family go down in flames.

Thank you Irene - didn't know those clips existed. What a wench... "I tell the 'little' man behind the counter...".

Yeesh, every time she opens her mouth...

David,

Can you do a story on this verbal abuse from Kate on TMZ? Dr. Lillian Glass has her observations and it scares me that no one is aware of this and all her sheeples think the sun sets and rises on Khate. Maybe if they saw what she is really like with the kids, the fear that they feel when she is around, it might just set them straight. I find it frustrating that there is video evidence of her being verbally abusive to the kids (even on the old shows) but everyone gives her a free pass. There is a picture of Jon's tugging playfully at Hannah's hair and all of a sudden he's a dangerous Dad..WTH???

http://www.drlillianglass.com/blog/?p=108

Scarlett... sigh.. Scarlett...

You don't believe that Kate belongs in the anti-Gosselin comments? You think that she is a "high road taker"? You think that she doesn't talk to the paps? You think Kate only has "limited appearances".

Scarlett.. please tell me your age and location. I am doing a pushpin demographic of the Kool Aid drinkers.

Thank You.

Scarlett thank you for your comments.

Exactly what High Road are you refering too?

*the I only have 1000 in my purse High Road
*the I do not want my children to read or see me on 50 magazine covers someday that I said anything negative High Road
*the I have to work High Road
*the I want to be a cartoon character for my children High Road
*the this has been a good experience for me and my children High Road.

Please explain...please come back here again...Enquiring minds want to know?

Z - I have to laugh about Rabbi Schmuley - (FYI - I'm 1/2 Catholic - 1/2 Jewish - I have all the guilt but get to confess everything & get back to a clean slate *S*) - Anyway my "sainted" little Jewish mama calls him "Rabbi Schmoozey"....I don't know if that's deliberate or accidental - but I don't have the heart to correct her *LOL*

This guy seems perfect for TLC. And he and Jon together are almost too much to contemplate. I like your mom's name for him a lot. From Micahel Jackson to Jon Gosselin -- what a resume. Thanks, tb98. Z

Kelly: Re: Jon's vasectomy
When you were in high school did you already have 8 children? Don't think so. Since you don't watch the show, Jon has stated on air that he was not ready to be a dad and Kate had twins. Jon has stated on air that he was happy with just the twins but that Kate wanted one more, then she had sextuplets. I believe Jon ran to the doctor to get the vasectomy. It was obvious to anyone who watched him speak that he was not a willing participant in the baby sweepstakes. I would have had a vasectomy also after 8 kids.

Gosselin Kids all the way,

I saw that video yesterday and was sickened by it. Who knows how often she takes her frustrations out on those kids. She's so immovable regarding taking responsibility for any of this mess, I'm sure she's not able to comprehend that her actions are bad for her children. She stayed in bed and ate healthy food so she did her part. Someone needs to intervene and get her away from the kids.

Jon, Kate and Hailey are all nuts. They all want fame and money and thats all.

Jersey - You are so right. Not only is it on tape, but also in print. In Multiple Blessings Kate said Jon was worried. He wasn't for her having the fertility treatments. He was happy with the twins and even feared having two more. She talked him into it or in her words she "sensed a crack in his armor" and he finally agreed to it. She said she "screeched, dove for the phone and made an appointment..." blah, blah, blah, blah....

Yeah, I'll bet she screeched until she got her way, too.

(BTW, I swear on a stack of hotel bibles I don't own the book, I read the excerpt on O's site)

ALY:

Got an email back from Penny Kroh about 15 minutes after I sent it. As to whether the breeder Jeff Christopher was in good standing with the German Shepherd Club in PA. Their email said,
"We don't know him". So maybe I can call the number you provided. :)

the entertainment weekly thing looked staged. did anyone else notice they had two seats set up in front of the camera from the start of day one when it was supposedly just an interview with hailey? they must have pre-planned it else why did the stagehands already setup two seats in front of the camera with all the props. the part with jon joining in and storming out has to be faked for tabloid $. mark heller and mike heller were probably behind it all since they make money off these things.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73709,00.html

Here is a story from Fox News dated December of 2002. It's a story about the bogus charity that Rabbi Shmuley started with Jackson and how the NY Times investigated it.

You need to scroll down to the second story titled "NY Time Gives Jacko's Ex-Rabbi Another Shot. It gives all the background on Shmuley and doesn't pull any punches about the guy.

Jersey,
My vasectomy comment was tongue in cheek. Breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out. There! Now, don't you feel better now. Have a Gosselin Friday.

TGIF

Radaronline is reporting that Jon Gosselin will appear in court on 12/14/2009 for the cranking up of the TLC lawsuit for breach of contract. Z can you confirm? Even though it seems these days that things are being leaked to Radar on purpose.

Wow. Just when I think it can't get any more bizzarre...

Who goes on television to talk about things like this?! The amount of personal information Kate, Jon and Hailey are willing to reveal on national television is astonishing and disturbing. Why don't any of them care that this is being archived for their children, grandchildren, etc... to see for years to come?

I really thought the notion of this whole divorce being a media-ploy for ratings was pretty out-there, but I must admit, that might be the only way all of this makes any sense. If that is the case, someone needs to intervene on the children's behalf (I can't believe a guardian ad litem has not already been appointed). That is particularly sick.

I saw a video on TMZ the other day of Kate picking the kids up from school with the nanny. The tups weren't standing still enough, so she yelled at them, including the threat "If I wasn't here you'd be standing in the parking lot waiting." Nice, huh? And that's her display of parenting skills in public - imagine what home must be like for these children.

That's too bad about Rabbi Shmuley. I used to like that TLC program Shalom in The Home that he used to do.I thought there was good advice for families. I guess he decided to go the celebrity route in the end.

Z, I am going to run. Will be back in a little bit. Have a great day.

That TMZ video proves again how delusional and self-absorbed Ms Kate really is.

She (and nanny in other car) is picking 8 kids up from a bus stop. What little child gets off a bus after a long day at school and STANDS STILL? All the little ones are chattering and happy to be off the bus, (I assume?) and she is telling them all to stay still and that they are 5 years old and apparently 5 yr olds don't move or talk in her sick little world. Good Lord, lady.. you are truly a sicko.

One of her little boys keeps dancing and and she yells at him "make your feet stop and stand still" WHAT? That's as good as when she told her husband "stop breathing like that" Oh my GOD!

What planet did this woman come from?

Plus.. she complains that she is watched and followed. Ok, well, she KNOWS that the cameras are at the bus stop and you would THINK she would want to depart as quickly as she can, right? RIGHT?

But, nooooooo.. as she is telling all these kids to STAND STILL, she is moving a lot of crap from the back seat of the suv to the cargo area. She must have moved 20 things!

So, Ms Kate.. knowing you are going to pick up 8 kids, why wouldn't you have emptied the backseat BEFORE you left your house? Why would you stand there for 10 mins doing it all in front of cameras?

Ummmmm.. I think we all know that answer, don't we?

I wish people would stop posting links to Dr. Glass's website. She is just another person, in a long line of people, trying to make a name for herself from this tragedy.

Wether this stuff is being staged or not, its ridiculous. If Jon is out there cheating, why isnt Kate filing adultery charges instead of irreconcilable differences, unless she in fact did tell him he could date as long as he still filmed. Either way this whole nightmare needs to stop. Its a disgrace that its even in the news. Why cant someone gag order these two. The only way the kids wont be effected is for them both to shut up period.

Irene,

The first court date in the Breach of Contract case between TLC and Jon Gosselin is scheduled for 12/14/09. In the meantime, TLC's attorneys have issued subpoenas to take testimony from a long list of people (from Hailey to Michael Lohan, to a pap/bodyguard). As for Jon having to appear on the 14th - we'll have to wait and see if he shows up or not.

The hearing on 12/14/09 is for TLC seeking 'appropriate relief', there is one scheduled for 1/15/10, and one on 9/10/10 for pretrial/settlement hearing.

Irene, its nothing actually exclusive. A simple search of the Maryland court records would get you all the same information.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=321901V&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

I wouldn't call it by any means investigative reporting.

Oh, but marieE she is so organized remember? lol

Kate does everything for the kids? lol lol

Kate would die for her kids? lol lol lol

Kate doesnt think the glare of cameras or the spotlight has any affect on the kids? lol lol lol lol

Here I go again same ole' Gosselin style again....
That little Gosselin though that twirled in a circle made my day....Give her heck kids! (ouch that was mean of me)

bbsak~~ he will be at court. Now what he is going to do for an attorney is left to be seen. I do not see him bragging that he has representation right now.

I just have to comment on the term "grifter." It is my favorite description of the Gosselins. They have taken advantage of the kind generous hearts of many and TLC has assisted them in their "sham." No talent, takers would also fit these parents. What is wrong with this picture? There is so much we don't know.

Thank you, Z, for another great article. You have great insight and your bloggers appreciate you!

,i> Hi Karen, Thanks. I cannot remember who first used it, but I picked the term up from one of the regulat commenters. So if you are that person, please step forward and received our thanks. Great term for them, I agree. Z

Yes, MD you are right it is a matter of public record. However, I find it ironic that Jon is brought to the coals over paparazzi when the other side sure has had their share of leaks & moments also. Just because Jon is dumber about it doesnt make me feel any different about the other side.

Thanks for the link MD.

z,

Any thoughts on the real reason TLC is taking Jon to court? It appears he is not going to back down. Won;t exposing the network's practices for reality show employees be extremely damaging, more so than the 30K they report he has made by violating the agreement as far as which media outlets he can talk to as well as what he can or cannot say?

I would think that Jon has the goods on the network, and if it males it to trial, it'll be a nice public record of how TLC broke up a family.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what TLC stands to gain by pursuing this. It has nothing to do with whether the kids are being filmed.

I think they believe Jon is a weak and shaky guy and if they turn the screws tight enough, he will crack and let them use his family any way they want to make the show. I also think TLC is very angry that this guy for whom they have no respect could shut them down and stop the money train in its tracks. These subpoenas are intended to scare him and his lawyer, who didn't exactly impress anyone by letting Nancy Grace mop the floor with him when he accompanied Jon on her show. The lawyer should have thrown himself in front of Jon and taken her on when she started bullying Jon and him. I am sure TLC sees him as weak as well.Z

Jon's attorney, Mark Heller reminds me of Bagdad Bob. Can he find anyone more obnoxious?

HATEKATE -Maybe the good rabbi is counselling Jon to jump back into bed with TLC. Must be Kosher Sex at its finest.

Suzi and marieE - I thought the same. She put on quite a production unpacking her car on that TMZ video. She's addicted to that camera lens. You can't tell me she doesn't love having the "P" people follow her around.

Both of these idiots missed the sign that said "High Road, next exit".

Me? I would like to look Eileen O'Neill in the eyes and ask her how she sleeps at night. The actions of her network and Kate Gosselin have forever adversely effected the lives of 8 innocent children. It is unbelievable that Eileen O'Neill is STILL trying to get these kids back on television - and is trying to destroy the father of these children in the process.

I would love for Jon and TLC to meet in the courtroom. All the dirty little secrets TLC has been hiding will come to light, and let's face it, Jon has absolutely nothing to hide. He does not risk exposure by talking in the courtroom or, let's face it, putting himself in a situation to look stupid. He's already doing both.

TLC . . . karma's coming at you. Can't WAIT to read the transcripts. Eileen O'Neill, are you ready to take the stand and confess how your greed for ratings helped destroy a family?!?! How your choice of media darlings (Kate) pitted husband and wife against each other? Just wait.

Here is a great link showing how other sextuplet families are living as far as how big the houses are in comparison top what Kate keeps claiming is a necessity for a million $$+ house. You know, because she is so special and it's just all "so hard."

Looks like the rest of the HOM families are doing just fine in regular-sized homes.

http://preesi.lefora.com/2009/11/05/lets-see-how-other-families-of-multiples-live/page1/

I was just nosing around that website MD gave us a link to the court papers.

Looks like the judge ok'd the sealing of some of the arguments from going public. Will that stick? Will the press be able to sue to get those documents exposed.

They are truly trying to throw the book on Jon G about all this. I do not think TLC cares about anything but getting their way. Of course, that is not the way TLC looks at it of course. Jon's actions caused this family's/productions true colors & for that they are going to try to nail him to the cross.

Funny though, end of the day they are still his kids. He is as equal a parent as Kate to make decisions about them.

I know all the KATE KOOL AIDE DRINKERS WOULD say Tlc is suing over Breach of Contract, but in the end when exposed this is just exposing the fact that Kate & TLC want to film those 8 Hershey Kisses. Bottom line...

Jon Gosselin kills me. He tweets the other day that he's going home to be with his kids on Thursday, 11-5-09 yet he's photographed in Los Angeles last night doing Yoga at a studio. He is sitting in a yoga pose (go to US Magazine) and he looks like Kim Jung Il after just devouring a trailer load of brocoli and beef.

I will take credit for the grifter term on this blog, but it's one that has been bandied about for nearly two years on other blogs and the first term that comes to my mind when describing the G's..

You have my eternal thanks, FtG8. Z

I wish people would stop posting links to Dr. Glass's website. She is just another person, in a long line of people, trying to make a name for herself from this tragedy
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I agree, Paula. Is someone trying to help her sell more books here?

I saw that Kelly. I would love for Z's picture people to put that up. It is almost the funniest picture ever seen of Jon.

I saw it, too. I will see if we can get rights through AP or someone. If so, it will be up by end of day. Z

Free the Gosselin 8 - does that makes us griftees? I started out watching the show a couple of years ago only because I left the channel on after Little People Big World. It wasn't intentional but I thought it was kind of entertaining and got hooked on it. Would that be being grifted or griffed? And can I sue for that?

(New code talk to sort through, huh Z?)

Yes, I think its makes us the the grifted. And you can only sue Jon, not Kate, even though she is chief grifter. She has blanket immunity from TLC. Z

Yes, and let's not forget High Road Kate has immunity from the press...

But, hey for what she doesnt say her sidekick Jon sure makes up for....oh there is a sense of justice in all this madness....sweet justice.

I was just poking around on the internet looking for something about the rumor of Jon and Kate reconciling. One of the links took me a funny parody of Kate and then I noticed a whole index of homemade videos of Mady and of Cara, some of them alone and some of them together, and they’re a combo of photos and video clips put together to rock music. My skin began to crawl and I began to wonder who’s putting this stuff together and then of course the obvious thought came to me of all the crazy pedophiles out there who must be watching these videos or making them and putting them on the internet. This was so upsetting I cannot begin to tell you how it made me feel. Can you parents out there imagine if you found videos of your kids on the internet that were put together by strangers to look like rock videos? How many photos and video clips have they collected, how many hours have they been looking at those children?

All these people in this fiasco for whatever they can get out of it, rabbis, body language “experts,” lawyers, tabloids, all being as selfish and fame mongering as J&K while the sickos of the world are quietly creating their own library of the Gosselin kids for their perverted pleasure. I’m sick. I have to get out of here and get some fresh air

Heather @ 2:13pm..

Oh, I'm so glad to see the link to Preesi's site. Anyone who wants actual visual verification of many Gosselin shenanigans can find them at Preesi's.

Chief Grifter and High Road Kate lol!!!!

C'mon stop it you guys. She might be reading this.

Aly,

That is really disturbing to me as a parent. I think now that we have "reality" TV shows involving under age children like Jon and Kate and others there need to be strict laws protecting these children from this kind of exposure. we live in a very technological age. Thanks for lets us know about the J&K site you found. More reason to fight for these kids. Even facebook, we make sure that our kids profiles are secure.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I really did not think this interview was staged. These two actually appeared to be falling apart before my eyes. I don't believe either of them would have any sort of moral problem with such a hoax, but I honestly don't think they're that bright!

z, I think your comments about TLC and John and the lawsuit are spot on. It must infuriate them that this little nobody has a say in their lineup. Beyond pathetic. I hope he doesn't cave, but at this point, I'm not sure there is much left in him.

I did not think hoax at first either. Now, I am not so sure. But I do not really know. Yes, I think TLC thinks he is a pathetic little guy, and now he has shut them down. I don't think there is much left either. This is a very rough crew he has taken on. Z

Here at Z on TV we do not discriminate. Let's just say we invite the whole zoo!

I would love x 8 for Kate to visit our site. She might just anonymously tell us to hit the HIGH Road.

Thank you Chrysee thank you.

Are we helping you here Z?

Aly - It is pretty twisted. If you go on the TLC site, they have lots of "extra" footage of the kids "goofing around" for the cameras. The amount of material that is available on these children (provided and approved by their parents) is astonishing.

I was reading some of Kate's complaints about the "p-people" and it occurred to me that (albeit awful), the p-people and commentators are generally being respectful of and protecting the privacy of the children. I haven't read any details of the children's school or interviews with teachers/school personnel nor have I seen leaked report cards, etc... Kate does not seem to comprehend that if she continues this madness, eventually someone will go there. Let's face it, it's easy to play nice when there are five year-olds involved, but at some point (earlier than probably I even envision), the children themselves will become targets.

Suzi J good point.

Kate likes the exposure for Kate's kids on Kate's terms~~when her pocket is $$$$$$lined.

Remember when Jon & Kate were gone so much & Jodi & Kevin were offered compensation by TLC. Remmember Kate then? It went along the lines of, noone but me makes money off my children.

SO MUCH FOR THAT KATE.

The german shep breeder was in Delaware, not Pa.

Kelly, what is a Gosselin Friday?

During a part of the interview that Kate did with her pal Natale Morales that did not make the cut involved Kate spreading the individual pictures out on the couch.

Do you think she will sell them $20 each or $20 for the package?

Oh, what a week and miles to go on the Gosselin High Road adventure ride. ;-)

Suzy J and Aly...

The other day I posted about Kate's need for "security" vs her children's need.

I agree that there are probably plenty of pedophiles and just plain wackos out there who are drooling over pics of these children.

Kate parades them around in front of her house , sometimes in bathing suits for photo-ops despite the fact that they have 24 acres without camera access.

Kate made a point of telling Morales that she is "hated". Hey, one of those haters could take it further than just hate and punish Kate by harming or taking one of her children.

Of course, if that happens, Kate will just have more, probably. And, if someone takes a little girl, Kate will just bargain for a trade for one of the boys.

The list is endless on how these children's lives are being wrecked. I just hope no harm ever comes to them due to selfishness of their parents, mostly their mommy dearest.

I hope so too marieE. This is an evil world we live in these days.

They are great kids. Tlc may win the battle with Jon.

I hope Gloria Allred announces her plans and wins the war with regulations to reality children.

I just saw a clip of Jon picking up the twins from the bus, he was talking with the paps in front of the girls saying he wouldn't get back with Kate. Cara had her jacket over her head all the way to the car. How can these two think this isn't effecting these children. I am outraged by all this. There are reasons real actors don't talk and keep their kids out of the spotlight. What is wrong with those two. If they are both to ignorant to stop then the media and these TV shows need to stop booking them on. Or I think they should all be held accountable.

Irene I do wonder if she visits these sites. A long time ago she said she deletes or doesn't read all the negative emails. From everything she's doing, it's obvious she is still in denial. But 'someone' is reading them and trying to get her to adjust her personality accordingly.

We poke fun at her (and Jon) because she's given people so much material to work with. They could have stopped this a long time ago. Now they're complaining they have no privacy, but I don't believe it. They enjoy every click of the lens.

Chrysee:
The funniest part of all this to me is the lid TLC thought they could keep on this with the constrictive complicated contracts they gave the Gosselins. While we have not seen crew, production, TLC insiders sell out....they do not need to. Jon & Kate make fools out of fools of themselves. One does it with TLC's blessings the other is getting sued for not having TLC's blessings.

It really couldnt have played out better for GWOP, whom had it on radar from the start. I will never again underestimate regular everyday people and the truth they can uncover.

God bless you TLC. This must be costing you a bundle.

Irene,
A Gosselin Friday is whatever you choose it to be. Sometimes, my sarcasm comes forth like tears from Kates eyes. It's never meant to be real and it's always an attempt to bring a warm smile.

Z,
Please do us all a favor and DON'T post that picture of Jon doing Yoga until Haily's father gives him a tummy tuck. By the looks of everything that was exposed as he sat on that mat, I sure hope he doesn't decide to get a pedicure with Kate. They'll need a belt sander to take care of those toe nails and the sparks would be devastating.

Hi, Honestly, I was going to post. But now, I'll hold off. I bet everyone already saw it anyway. Z

Z, you and some of the other readers might find this interesting. This author really blasts TLC, and rightly so.

http://gosselindivorce.blogspot.com/2009/11/tlc-have-you-no-shame-also-look-into.html

Z,

I didn't see the picture of Jon, but don't care too. This seems like a way for people to just be plain mean. What is the point in that? Yes, he made mistakes. If I was him I would be running from this kind of publication.

I'm off to work.

Truthfully, that picture of Jon G doesn't disgust me. Its just a picture of a chubby man in a yoga position.

What DOES bother me is that he wants his yoga participation made public. I mean.. WHY?

You would think by now this man would realize that he could be elected Pope and everyone will laugh at him and call him a fool. He really needs to STEP AWAY from all and any publicity.

Especially, since he will be facing the TLC high priced lawyers with his little kibbutzing lawyer and his great "witnesses", including his little girlfriend who is now calling him an abuser and liar and his very special best friend, Michael Lohan. Of course, we know what a great father Mr Lohan is, since he is now selling phone recordings of his own troubled daughter to the highest bidder in the guise of "if she hears them in public, she will get help"

I really don't know how Jon Gosselin can ever get his life in any order. He insists on surrounding himself with people who have their own agendas. He needs to pack his bags, get out of NYC and go to his Mother's house and stay there, no more interviews, no more rabbis, no more ephipanies. Do not leave the house other than to visit his children.

Then, he might stand a chance.

Sherry, Suzi, marieE, thanks for your comments. I had to get away from all the ugliness for a while and clear my head. I keep going back to Kate's reason for the bodyguard: "For MY safety." she said. Meanwhile there are sickos out there watching homemade videos of her kids on the internet. Kate was right about one thing, they can't go back. Those kids can't go back to a time when they were just normal kids without their pictures out there for all to see, back to a time when they weren't the objects of perverts desires.

This is all so upsetting. I think the Duggers and that Table for Twelve family should stop letting TLC film them altogether.

Paula, thanks for that link. It's very interesting and the author followed up with another:

http://gosselindivorce.blogspot.com/2009/11/why-form-jkig-because-this-couple-is.html

J&K formed a corporation, JKIG, which is named in the lawsuit as well. The corporation consists of Jon, Kate and the kids. As explained in this article, "...if TLC is suing Jon or the corporation for money damages, which is pretty much all they can get (in other words, Jon isn't going to JAIL for this), they are simply asking a judge to award them the children's money, since Jon and Kate control it since the children are, obviously, minors.

So if Jon blows through his money, which it looks like he's doing, and if TLC should win the lawsuit, any money TLC is asking for will have to be paid through the corporation which is money that belongs to all the Gosselins.

So much for TLC being moral high-ground takers.

Perfect timing. One of the trash tabloids has published a letter from a wacko pervert prisoner stating his sperm was "in the mix" when Kate was inseminated. He says he met Kate "at a Harrisburg Long John Silvers over octopuss."
So there you have it. I'll bet he's loving having his letter published on the internet. One day he'll no doubt be released and might want to visit the Gosselin mansion to see "his kids." I actually read on another blog where someone posted they thought it was funny.

Aly thanks for the link. We all sympathize with how you feel.

The Gosselin High Road is just one of so many twists and turns from the very day Jon & Kate ventured into the world of television.

The link you provided with court papers on the strategy the TELLING LIES CHANNEL has decided to go just makes me nauseted et al. From the start the Gosselins gave the TELLING LIES CHANNEL full editing and control over their lives. The problem lies in the Gosselins themselves are now part of this lie hook, line and sinker. I said it before I will say it again and again. The TELLING LIES CHANNEL have good sound grounds for their lawsuit but the pursuit of it only ends up being a true indictment that the TELLING LIES CHANNEL is in this for the money past, present and future. The money the TELLING LIES CHANNEL will get will come from the backs of 8 children filmed in episodes over a 2 1/2 year period (100 + to be exact)

Kate: that should outrage you. The TELLING LIES CHANNEL will leave you unable to pay those bills in your purse.

Jon: this should outrage you. The TELLING LIES CHANNEL is going to hold you to a contract. Somewhere I get the feeling you might not have been raised to accept responsibility for your actions. Buddy this is gonna be ugly. You best get an attorney fast.

TELLING LIES CHANNEL: So sad to hear dvd sales has been affected, sponsors, advertisers. This is what happens when you lie and manipulate real peoples lies.

So, yes Aly I sympathize with you. Stay with us though as the world turns GOSSELIN STYLE.

In reading the lawsuit I was struck by the fact that TLC exercised the contract extension in February 2009 AFTER Jon and Kate were separated!

Remember in Jan 2009 Jon was in PA staying with his Mom. There is youtube video of his partying with the college kids and he told them that he might be getting divorced. After that he went to Utah with Deanna.

So TLC made them pretend to be "happily married" and would have probably exercised the two remaining options in the contract (6 and 7th seasons) if Jon didn't stop this mess.

I havent seen anything of late where the Telling Lies Channel will be deposing Kate Gosselin in this suit. Doesnt mean their not I just havent seen it.

Aly - That letter is creepy. I can't believe Kate is continuing on with this nonsense! Kate could shut this all down right now. Without her as their "star" witness, TLC has no lawsuit. They could quit the show and go "underground" (i.e., not give daily interviews) for six months and the public will have forgotten about them.

I still can't understand how Kate thinks her "I can't go back" spiel rationalizes continuing to make the same mistakes. Yes, Kate, you can't go back, but you can make different (better) choices going forward!

Suzi: What do you think of a mock poll seeking that bloggers submit their "favorite" J&K epsiodes as a counterprogram to Kate's "favorites" on Monday? Wondering. Z

Z - I think the mock poll is a fabulous idea!!!

Well do it. I might not get it up until later tonihgt or Sunday a.m. But start thinking about those "favorite" moments. Thanks for the feedback. Z

Irene - Jon's lawyer hasn't requested anyone's deposition yet, and since Kate is cooperating with TLC they have no reason to depose her at this point. TLC is obviously on a fishing expedition and hoping to get some good fodder from the weakest links (Jon, Hailey and Lohan). Ugh.

Aly,

This stuff that you have been finding is really scary to me as a mom. You would think that Jon and Kate would both be advocates for their kids and get them off off the show. She is going on with the show when one parent wants to quit.

Z, I think the poll would be a good idea.

Suzi J that is befitting Jon to just sit back and let the steamroller run him over. I do not think he even cares really.

Kate needs to be deposed at some point. I just want to see her tell her tales like she does all in one sentence in a deposition.

What a waste of money on a show that is based on mistruths, hypocrisy and dying ratings.

Kelly,

Jon's tweets about going home to be with his kids on Thurs, 11-5 were used out of calendar order with the pictures you saw of him in LA doing yoga. The pics of Jon in LA doing yoga were from a previous day. Jon was in PA to pick up his kids from school on Friday (not doing yoga in LA).

Thanks bbsak. I stand corrected.

Jon posed for the yoga pics for US magazine article. If you want to see the pics (and they're awfully funny!) they're in the Gosselin's album at sosugary
OR this tiny url: http://tinyurl.com/yk7f8s5

First time I've seen this blog, but just reading about the dogs (which I am totally in the dark about) going back to the breeder. When I saw this episode I thought they said the breeder worked in Law Enforcement. If this is the case I took for granted that he was breeding dogs for Schutzhund. I am retired from the same field and have owned, trained and competed in Schutzhund which is a dog sport in which some dogs are trained to work professionally in criminal apprehension. They are also used for personal protection and tracking along with identifying scents. I was hoping these dogs would turn out to be protectors for this family.( They surely need it.) I could be totally wrong about the bloodlines of at least one of the dogs.having imported lines. Almost exclusively imported lines are used because these dogs have what is referred to as DRIVE. That is the innate desire to protect and work for their handler. It's a rare dog with American AKC bloodlines that exhibit this drive. Schutzhund is a BIG sport in Europe and so these traits have been carefully passed for many years through their blood lines. I've seen many breeds of dogs tear up everything in the house including chain link kennels. Dogs need love and training early if they are to make good companions, Gosselin's didn't know they were just in need of training. They were just inexperienced dog owners.

Hi karsushi: Welcome to the blog. Yes, the Gosselins were very inexperienced,a nd thr parents seemed to care not a whit for the dogs. That made some of us mad. Thanks. Z

I keep saying I'm going to quit reading about these two, but its hard not to. This is the only blog I really like to read and comment on. The people here seem to get it. I did come across some child advocate group that wrote letters to TLC and its advertisers requesting they stop filming the kids. This thing is really out of control. I really dont know what its going to take to stop jon and kate. I don't understand how she can spank her child and nothing happens and it didnt look like it was a spat, she definately did it out of anger. Another thing that really bothers me is all these confidentiality papers everyone has to sign. Is it because there is something to hide. It seems to me Jon took advantage of these legal papers when he got with the babysitter. So they all think they can do whatever they want and it be ok, even if its morally and legally wrong.

Only two more shows, and then that might be the end. At least, that is the way kate and TLC are playing it -- unless Jon relents that is. The soap opera might keep goping even if the shows stops. But I think that will be okay with many folks who just want to see the cameras taken off the kids. Thanks. Z

Let's face it folks. How do you expect this man to act after Kate badgering him for the past 10 years? Dontcha' think he just had enough and it having problems being his own person for a change? Of course, that didn't give him the right to cheat? on Kate, but can't say I was surprised by all of this happening. Kate does not have a halo over her head and that is still hidden in the bushes....to be continued folks!

Why can't Jon and kate just get regular jobs instead of just goofing around all the time? Why does the media allow
all this insanity to go on and on and on? The Gosselins are the most dysfunctional family I have ever read about or heard of.

According to Radaronline Jon plans to sue TLC for $5 million.

Can't wait to read those papers. TLC may want rethink their strategy; I can't imagine the scrutiny of the "Realest Reality Show" will be good for the reality TV industry. Hours the children worked, safeguards, setup situations, no pay for minors etc.