Obama attacked Fox News because he does not want the MSM to report on info that Fox News digs up on him or his administration (ACORN, Van Jones, Anita Dunn and so on). He sent a message to the MSM that they either continue to be his mouthpiece - or else. Or else they will be attacked like Fox News was and given the shaft. Indeed, the MSM is Obama's mouthpiece, as the Pew Research Center study on the general election (link below) shoes:

MSNBC's general election coverage of Obama was 14% negative and 43% positive. Their coverage of McCain was a whopping 73% negative and ONLY 14% positive. They were 5X as negative in their news overage of McCain in comparison to their coverage of McCain (73% vs 14%), and they were 4X as positive in their news coverage of Obama in comparison to their coverage of McCain (43% vs 10%). MSNBC: Obama's lapdog.

Fox News general election coverage of Obama was 40% negative and 25% positive. Their coverage of McCain was 40% negative and 22% positive. Fox News coverage of Obama and McCain was EQUALLY negative (40%) and MORE positive for Obama (25% vs 22%).

The MSM's overall general election coverage of Obama was 29% negative and 36% positive. Their overall coverage of McCain was a whopping 57% negative and ONLY 14% positive. The MSM was 2X as negative in their news coverage of McCain in comparison to their news coverage of Obama (57% vs 29%). They were 2.5X as positive in their news coverage of Obama in comparison to their coverage of McCain (36% vs 14%).

http://www.journalism.org/node/13436

Obama knows that the MSM (and especially MSNBC) is a mouthpiece for him. He lied through his teeth when he said that Fox News was not real news. As we can see, it is the MSM that is NOT real news. Anyone who cannot see this is either an idiot or a liar. Period. End of discussion. MIndless liberals continue to lie about Fox News and make stuff up about them and make excuses for the MSM, but their excuses for the MSM are bogus.

The standard reply is: Beck and Hannity are opinion shows, not news.

Ok, then take down the "Fox News" logo during their show.

I've been following this in utter amusement. Though I'm not taking sides, I think that President Obama has better things to with his time than to pick a fight with FOX News. I would like to see President Obama address the economic destruction that the Federal Reserve in causing in our country.
Also, there are an increasing number of people who think President Obama is a socialist and that he is taking our country down the road to socialism. Guess what...we are already there. I have a book entitled "Phillip Dru: Administrator" which was written by Edward Mandell House. It was House's blueprint for the radical socialist revolution that took place during the Presidencies of Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt. House was also an agent for Wall Street banker J.P. Morgan.

Rupert Murdoch has a long history of publishing ...

edited for possible libel...Z

Andrew Dover--That sounds like a plan! Will CNN do the same on all its shows? Will MSNBC and NBC Run a 2 inch banner when Maddow , Oberman, et al are on? See the Liberals love the first amendment when it does not attack them. IF the rest of the MSM would have done the job that Fox has done maybe the lemmings would not have picked Obama. Oh well the time has come for real change, the dems and the MSM will be just bit players in a new America.

“Fox News” logo is to delineate between the news and the news orientated commentary shows and your local Fox station which feature local interests and shows like House and So You Think You Can Dance. So think logo applies. Shep Smith for news and Hanity or Beck for news commentary

Keith Olberman, Rachel Madow, Ed Schultz, and David Shuster are opinion shows, not news. Ok, then take down the "MSNBC" logo during their show.

Wait - non liberals are citing JFK? How does that come to be? Whatever - if the White House doesn't want to grant an interview to Fox News, they are well within their right. If 35 news agencies showed up on my property, I'd run them all off, but Fox would go first, at gunpoint. Why? Because I despise them. They aren't any more "news" than the Enquirer.

What is a non-liberal -- a conservative? And are you saying ABC News is a non-liberal? Thanks. Z

Does the White House need a warm wash cloth ...?
Edited for language.Z

Google "Fox and Obama birth" and you'll find dozens of stories from Fox on how he's not really our president. It's disgusting.

Fox seems to be bent on dumbing down the entire GOP to Bush's level.

if fox news is not real news why are they attacking them, just because they are exposing the socialist agenda being forced on us by their administration.

Interesting to hear lefty Cynthia Tucker characterize the Obama White House as having a "Nixonian mien". That has to be a first for me - hearing a liberal actually use such a comparison.

As usual in these posts, I also enjoy the fully informed commentary of those whose depth of understanding the issue is brought down to chasing them off with a gun because "I despise them". I thought it was supposed to be the right-wingers that so often resorted to nonsensical violence and hate. I'd bet that this poster cannot lucidly explain with any reasonable evidence why he "despises" Fox.

As for taking down the "FNC" logo during opinion shows - why is that necessary only with Fox and not the other networks? These one-sided arguments are so boring and predictable.

Another good piece Z. Thanks - I had missed that show. And kudos again to you for your continued balance on this one.

I liked President Kennedy's comments about the media use them for a purpose when I need them and then go our separate ways. More of a lighter note than a defensive attitude. That seems like a better way to handle it. It was funny.

On the other hand I think President Obama is playing the media in a more dangerous way by singling out a particular network. Obviously when the other cable and media channels went with FOX it was a good thing for the press. The WH is not focusing on the important issues like Laura Ingraham said. The there was the Nixonian thing again with Cynthia Tucker - I think we have heard that before.

To say that MSNBC is Obamas mouth piece is insane. Fox is not a news outlet. There is not a person on the planet that can say Fox is a not a very conservative network in commentary and in news.

FOX is a TABLOID outlet.
Australian Billionair's war on the American mind and psyche.

So a Fox News VP describes the channel as "the voice of opposition on some issues". Laura Ingraham spins this as "holding the administration accountable", asserting that this is what the press is supposed to be doing.

This explanation leaves me wondering whether Fox News was upholding this responsibility to be "the voice of opposition on some issues" for the 8 years of the Bush Administration, too. Seems like this sense of journalistic duty was discovered some time around January.

Anybody want to tell the President that US is going bankrupt, we are at war, and the dollar will be the same price as the peso if he doesns't stop printing money. Oh ya he too busy fighting with Fox and turning this country into a welfare state.

Tucker was clearly characterizing the conservatives' criticism of Obama, not making the Nixon comparison herself.

I didn't say anything about Tucker and Nixon. I was pointing to Tucker saying the president is trying to look tough by going after Fox. Z

The less substance, the more preoccupation with analysis of appearance.

AndrewDover: I hate to have to explain things at such a basic level, but Fox News is the name of the channel that shows Glenn Beck, Special Report and all the other shows--news and analysis (or "opinion" if you'd prefer). It's no different than CNN (Cable News Network). Do you expect CNN to change thier logo to "CON" anytime they air an analysis show?

Why are so many of these comments edited????

The first amendment must really be dead, especially when people worry about what others are typing.

You should host this blog in China, where there is no freedom of spech...

I edit for libel, hate speech, lack of civility and crude language. That is why you were edited: Nothing to do with free speech. Z

The truth if you can not all get it, the only winner here is the white house or Pres. Obama. The you attack them the more it will be clear to the people who is the villains or aggressors. Anyway, what do you expect for some entertainers in the media with the same level of inteligence fans, of course a moronic analysis and rhetorics. Keep it going Mr. President people are behind you. May god protect the people from harm, and please bless those who are misleads.

The problem with FOX, (aside from its "race to the bottom" infotainment presentation), is its inability, or unwillingness to filter bogus and defamatory stories.

MSNBC at least has the reputation of the NBC parent company keeping it in check from such irresponsible, scorched-earth practices.

Wouldn't that be nice is that were true about MSNBC. Z

I am going to forgive the other news agencies for sticking up for Fox when the whitehouse tried to cut them out of the interview circuit. Even NBC stood up to the whitehouse bullies and said no. For that I give them 1 year reprieve of my derision.

And.

Everything Flint350 said

Obama was an idiot for attacking Fox News, but "main stream media" is an oxymoron when discussing Fox News, because as they are quick to constantly remind you, they lead the ratings (beating both networks combined sometimes).

While MSNBC and CNN have their leanings, neither has ever set up and propogated a anit-government rally. Conservatives have been railing against the "main stream media" for years for an alleged liberal bias and agenda, where is the outrage when a news channel makes a blatant attack on the president based on politics? Suspiciously absent.

Fox news and the 'good old boys ' like rush and friends are the most unhappy people, they must wake up and kick their dog. There numbers are propably getting better cause the county is in two wars and jobs are scarce. Misery loves company.

The important point here is that Fox News pretends to be a fair impartial news organization which is blatantly false. Why didn't any of these people mention what the white house actually said about fox news and why they are denouncing them as they do? Even omitting Fox News commentary shows like O'Reilly and Beck, they have an obvious bias. Just check out Liberal Viewers videos on youtube.

Faux News does have an influence and it spreads ignorance and propaganda like no other.

I don't like the way Obama has turned out. I'm very sorry I voted for him. ... If I knew what I know now about him and the people around him, I never would have voted for him. At this time in history we need someone else who is qualified. Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States. It almost seems as if he's trying to hurt the country.

News, or Opinion? Either way it's about the Money (ratings) - for advertisement dollars. $$$$$$$$ Truth is still a perspective from history, and then not.

FOX News is an Australian-owned entertainment television show - they're in this for the money. It's more profitable for them to keep people angry and fighting, so that's what they do. The more viewers they have, the more advertising revenue they earn. The more they stir things up, the more they profit.

The White House isn't conducting a "War" on FOX News... They're just not inviting them to press conferences. If FOX News wants to earn the privilege of being invited again, I suppose they'll have to run themselves more like a news organization and less like an entertainment show.

So, who fired the first shot in this fight?

This is October and the White House is just now calling out Fox. Is Fox innocent, and deserving of every bit of everyone's sympathy?

...Fox News is as innocent of starting this fight as the Germans were when "the Polish made a border incursion" on September 1, 1939, IMO.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see what everyone else seems to be seeing.

By swatting that fly, President Obama was not "declaring war" on flies. It was annoying him, and he swatted it. But he did not demand an end to all flies everywhere.

Same thing goes here. Fox news is annoying the White House, so they say something about it, and Fox flips its lid!

No war has been declared here.

Declaring that opinion isn't news and you're not going to pretend like it is anymore, isn't "declaring war".

I voted for Obama, and while I agree that Fox News is not a legitimate news organization, I don't believe it's appropriate for the President to single out a news organization they way they have done with Fox.

The fact is, no mainstream news organization is legitimately unbiased. Every single one has an agenda MSNBC and CNN have a strong bias towards the democratic party (though you'd have hardly have known it during the first 3 years of Bush's presidency).

More importantly, in my mind, is the fact that every major news organization in the US is OVERWHELMINGLY biased in favor of corporatism- because they're all owned by and get sponsorship from the corporate sector. This is exceedingly dangerous, as evidenced by the way financial reporting was handled prior to the meltdown last fall; not to mention the myriad stories of corporate abuse that go virtually uncovered on a daily basis.

If the White House can take down any TV station, that is a bad sign in Freedom of being able to broadcast. No One has the right to make that decession except for the people that either want or not want to view. What you are seeing is the OBAMA ADM, wanting CONTROL OF everything in your life and look who his ZARS ALL----- ALL COMMUNIST.
Mark

Fox news is terrible. You hear them ranting all day about socialist control and party controlled media systems from totalitarian states, then you realize that they are actually run by GOP ex-advisors, and feature republican commentators and opinion pretty much exclusively. They are not an independent media organization by any means, but a soviet style propaganda machine.

Hey ! Everything the President say's is true, and everything he promised will come true by 2856 you wait and see.

Republicans are stupidiest people on the planet

Wow. I am an avid hater of Fox News. With that said, I am an avid hater of MSM. I don't watch news on TV, but rather get it from the internet. You can get news feeds from around the world, and from different sources. So don't rag on Fox News because they happen to be the only news organization that actually caters to the entire center of the United States that doesn't include radical Democrat/Liberal coastal states. You wouldn't be seeing this kind of White House attention if there were say, 3 or 4 other networks out there that also pushed the Republican agenda. When did it become cool to bash republicans anyway? Hell, Jon Stewart bashes both sides equally. Sure, he is pretty liberal, but he's funny as hell, and he recognizes what is funny and ironic about our society. I haven't even watched his recent episodes, but I can guarantee he's made fun of the White House for this retarded new direction and focus. Note to White House: keep bashing Fox. History shows, making Martyrs out of people or groups with a point of view always proves to be the smart idea in the end...

Keith Olberman, Rachel Madow, Ed Schultz, and David Shuster at least they don't rally skin heads and bigots......

The fact that Obama, Axlerod, and Emmanuel all three came out swinging against Fox news means this assault on Fox was planned. They truly believe that Fox is not news and the state dept. even tried to deny one of their reporters entrance and an interview. I voted for Obama but this is one of the dumbest stunts that the head cheese and his minions have pulled. The press has freedom to report whatever it wants to. Most people have already decided whether Fox news is really news or not. They delegitimize themselves handily and do not need Obama’s help. There are other non-news organizations on the left that aren’t news either. If the NY Times & other news organizations start picking up on “news” that Fox airs, that makes it real news, regardless of whether Obama agrees with them or not.

I believe Cynthia actually used the phrase 'Nixonian meme', though mien actually makes just as much sense in this instance. Meme carries different connotations; notably ones that suggest the behavior of the White House is not only for show and popularity, but more importantly an impermanent tactic to deal with an organization that expresses opinions that often sound extremist/alarmist and actively seeks to persuade its audience to squelch any attempt to establish a civil bipartisan conversation under an absurdly enacted guise of absolute morality. Mien would suggest that Nixonian acrimony is indicative of Obama's character. Simply put, Fox News is an unruly child screaming about losing and the Obama administration is a lenient parent that can't bring themselves to hit said child. I go slightly insane every time I see a republican decry socialism in exasperation as their only contribution to a discussion. Obama is infinitely more patient than I would be were I in his place.

I was talking about her saying at the very end that President Obama is trying to prove he's tough by attcaking Fox. Z

Somehow the perspective of someone who once made an argument for torture based on the successes of Jack Bauer - a fictional character on her own network - is worthy of a show like 'This Week' suggests that 'This Week' is no longer a valid show at all.

Any clear thinking individual with any sort of integrity about themselves will readily identify 95% of Fox News as shear bunk.

To say that there is even a remote counter equivalence between shows like Olbermann and Beck - to name two - is beyond dishonest. If you think that then you have not done any fact checking on that which comes out of the mouths of both. You see opinion is fine when you base your assertions on fact. The problem with Hannity, Beck and O'Reilly is that facts are utterly inconvenient for them. Never mind they declare their statements to be factual when they are quite often are not.

No fraud is acceptable - but I find it quite disingenuous for example to rant on and on about the pittance that which is attributed to ACORN when one considers not only the Billions in fraud attributed to Haliburton/KBR but also the pain, suffering and deaths unnecessarily inflicted upon our troops by their utter greedy negligence. Where was any of Fox's harsh commentary on that front?
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Best thing Obama ever did.
FOX makes things up from thin air...terrorist fist bump, Michelle is an unfit mother, 20 fold increase in crowd numbers for Glen Beck's 9-12 march (70k attendees and showing pictures from another march with over 1M attendees...missing some buildings in the pics that now exist), etc.
Since Obama has faced unprecedented congressional opposition, he has chosen this tactic to undermine that opposition by showing he feels FOX does lie about the adm.
There is 20-30% of the population that will never vote for him or the Dems...why cater to them at the expense of letting FOX effect the independents by legitimizing their lies without condemnation.
Frankly, there were getting to be more lies than could be answered...or should be answered.
That is what the adm doesn't have time to do. Staying off FOX doesn't silence them...that's just their latest lie.
Some people never learn.

It's about time that the news media got over their own egos and got back to reporting news in a truly "Fair and Balanced" manner. I'm sick of the media telling me what to think. I like to believe that I and my fellow Americans are too stupid to form our own opinions. MSNBC and Fox should both shut up and allow the facts to speak for themselves.

Obama has every right to dislike Fox and call them on their questionable and opinionated reporting. There is a small portion of the American population that actually still believes what they see on the news (and on a "news channel"), and hopefully this 'war' between the whitehouse and Fox will open some eyes.

Come on people, grow your own opinions. Partisan politics and profit driven media are killing the American spirit. It makes me sick.

Fox is hateful, blatantly biased and a detriment to the country as a whole. Obama and his admin just had the guts to say what most of the country already knows: Fox is a mouth piece for an extreme right wing agenda that hurts us all.

I watch Fox just to keep track of the propaganda, and to know what all the ignorant lemmings will be spouting as facts the next day at work.

I love how the right, when Bush was in office -stating we were a nation at war- labeled anyone who attacked the President or his horrid policies as unPatriotic or unAmerican.. and now, these same people's attacks are so personal and scathing, and on such a illogical, unproductive level they border on being threats... or at the very least libelous.

Fox News leads the charge of the sound byte based politics that is ruining our country and something needs to be done.

I used to watch FoxNews all the time. But due to recent developments, I have boycotted Beck & Hannity for the past 4-5/momths. They may say anything for ratings, but all they have done,. at least as far as I'm concerned, is to get me to change the channel when they are on.

If "The O'Reilly Factor" is a commentary program, then why does Fox News call it "The Number One Cable News Show" on their own ads for the show? Here's why... they want their audience to believe it to be actual news. I watch Fox News every night with my 82 year-old father, who is part of Fox News core audience (seniors). Most of Becks, Hannitys and O'Riellys commentary is to incite fear with rumor and innuendo about what the current Democratic administration is doing. I really don't know why anyone in the Obama administration would even bother to comment on Fox News. Its main audience is (more often than not) asleep half way through O'Reilly. The White House is giving the brats at Fox News all the attention they crave and then some. I thought Obama would have had better parenting skills.

Bush was blasted 24/7 for 8 years by ALL msm outlets. Clinton was bashed 24/7 during the impeachment scandal. The "read my lips" clip from Bush Sr. was played over and over again during his reelection bid. Reagan was criticized and insulted by ALL msm outlets during Iran Contra. Carter took it hard for the oil and hostage crisis. Ford was regularly insulted by the msm who considered him stupid. Nixon was crucified for Watergate.......... on and on. NEVER ONCE did ANY of these men or their minions cherry pick who they wanted to present the news to the public. Good or bad they were all man enough to be professional adults and deal with it. All Obama and his minions do is whine about how unfair it all is. NEWSFLASH OBAMA.. life is not fair, GROW UP AND DEAL WITH IT!!

Mephisto, Please check out Jarod's praise for this comment. His post comment was posted at about 2:30 p.m. Monday. Thanks. Z

I think its hilarious that Mr. Obama is not supposed to criticize Fox, when 90% of their show time is spent working HIM over! Is this a free country or not? Is Mr. Obama allowed to have his opinion of Fox "News" or not? I think this is a PERFECT of example of "You (Fox) can dish it out, but you can't take it!" ... The uglier they get, the more I love Mr. Obama!

Obama is used to fluffy pillows and fuzzy slippers when he comes to visit, not hardball questions concerning legitimate issues that those of us who are awake and not in zombieland have.

I got an Idea. Turn off the TV! What we call "news" in the USA, in general, SUCKS! Ahhh, what was the famous line? "..Get the Widow on the set, We need dirty laundry!"

PAALEEASE!

I doubt seriously that you will print this one, but here goes. The wrap against Fox news isn't that it is anti-Obama while MSNBC is pro-Obama. It is that Fox news constantly distorts the news, advancing lies about issue after issue. From Acorn to 9/11 Fox has left listeners with false impressions that either flow from the most incompetent reporting one might imagine or from deliberate attempts to distort. There is much that an anti-Obama news station could utilize to fill its air time. Look at the coverage on Democracy Now, for examples. But Fox isn't reporting those stories. Instead, they report that the health insurace reform has death panels (which it doesn't). They report that the teabaggers were a massive grassroots movement (when they were neither grassroots nor massive). They report that there are serious questions about Obama's birthplace (when there are none). Most of their viewers think that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and sent the 9/11 attackers--and why? Because Fox left them with that impression. They left out most of the story concerning all the good work that ACORN has been doing, and--along with most of the media--conducted character assassinations againt the organization. Not one single news organization--Fox included--spent any time investigating the distinct possibility that the Baltimore tapes had been "set up" from the beginning with "Acorn workers" who had been paid to play a role. Fox constantly distorts economic news (but so do most of the other major news outlets). They have never taken a serious look at the causes of the current depression (the mal-distribution of wealth brought on by thirty years of conservative reforms and accelerated during the Bush administration). The list goes on and on. To say that Fox is justified in its distortions because MSNBC, especially Keith and Rachael, are critical of Fox (and therefore supposedly more friendly to Obama) misses the point entirely. Let's have plenty of news reportage critical of Obama, but let's stick to the facts. Survey after survey has found that people who watch Fox are less informed about the news than are people who watch nothing at all or get all of their news from comedy shows. You are suppose to be a media critic. Do your job. Take those distortions apart. It doesn't matter whether a news source is 55 peercent less or more favorable to Obama. It matters whether a news source is 100 percent accurate. It matters whether a news source constantly leaves false impressions. It matters whether a news source lies. Fox (appropriately named because it is as crafty as all of the attributes we traditionally attribute to the little animal) lies.

If Obama and White House are calling FOX News the right-wing conservative mouthpiece of Republican Party, then that means they think that CNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS are the left-wing liberal mouthpieces for the Democrat Party...and is why they will talk with those news outlets. We all know people like Kieth Oberman and Rachelle Madox voted for Obama, and are just as slanted in their pro-Obama coverage as are Hannity and Beck in their anti-Obama coverage. The one difference I see is that Beck and Hannity are upfront in their slanted position, unlike the CNBC people who think they are somehow objective. Here's a great idea: Why don't we readers, listeners and viewers, demand that ALL news people, reporters and journalists must have an "R" or "D" next to their name, so we can be informed of their political affilation? I mean, they all vote, and wouldn't this be the ultimate truth in media so we know where they're coming from? PS: Anyone that says, "I am in Independent" would be trying to cover up their background. We all know that most of them vote - so do what's in the public interest and let the public know their polifical affiliation and background - which they surely have.

I regret voting for Obama, too. He's no leader. He's just a politician. And a preachy, scoldy, monomaniacal one at that. I look forward to seeing him in the rearview mirror.

Fox is not news it only sell's fear and doubt, told by manic idiots. Murdoch sell's middle of the road mindless dung. Meanwhile he lives like a king laughing at the fools who pay to support his lavish lifestyle. Its about money in the end not the truth.

The office of the President should not, as JFK pointed out, lower itself to name calling on the playground.

Really, who cares what FNC says?

Complete bush league garbage in a big league stadium. Could someone toss Obama a clue?

It is beneath the dignity of the White House to engage in a smear campaign against FOX. It is an abuse of Presidential power. Anything FOX News has said about Obama pales in comparison to the way Bush was treated by the media. Just go to YOUTUBE and check out some of Keith Olbermann's over-the-top attacks on Bush.

What distinguishes Fox News from other news organizations is that they actively promote activist activity (demonstrations, disruptions of town hall meetings,, etc.) against the government. They solicit people to engage in activities to try to bring down the government, then cover the result as a news story. I know of no other MSM outlet, even the Wall Street Journal, that takes such an activist approach. They are a political party, not a news outlet.

Oberman is a rabid attack dog. Beck and Hannity are certainly not worse, and possibly not better. Beck at least did "out" Van Jones and ACORN. That helped, and may bring some caution into Obama's Administration picks which will be a good thing. Thus far, his Administration has left a lot to be desired in the vetting of his appointments. Now, if we could have some caution in where the money goes, we might actually have some improvement in this country.

I have a question for some commenter. When Cynthia Tucker said, Nixonaian mein or meme, did she possibly just mean and idea that is spreading from person to person in this case? I think Karl Rover mentioned something to that effect.

I really don't remember the Nixon administration because I was too young, I just remember everyone glued to TV sets in my family about that whole time. And, I have not read enough about that administration to make a judgement.

I think the larger issue is the freedom of the press issue. I am willing to give President Obabma a chance because he has not completed his term yet. I think he needs to go over to FOX for an interview. This would be the best thing to do. Otherwise it give credence to the FOX opinions and really solved nothing. And my other real issue is I just need the economy to improve.

Some evening, switch back and forth between Fox News and MSNBC. They are mirror images of each other. Snide comments about liberals on Fox, snide comments about Conservatives on MSNBC. The White House is being very ungrateful when it berates Fox for being a tool of the Republican Party and fails to thank MSNBC for being a tool of the Democratic Party.

Anyone who dares to oppose Obamba's ideology will be blacklisted. So much for free press.

Fox News will go on about this for what--another week or two. But then what happens? They're on the outside with no administration officials to harangue face-to-face. For the next three years or until they say uncle. Watch the slow fade in the ratings due to diminished access. This White House knows what its doing and since Fox started the war, expect Obama to finish it.

"The standard reply is: Beck and Hannity are opinion shows, not news.

Ok, then take down the "Fox News" logo during their show."

Make MTV take down their logo when they don't play music.

They are all part of the same beast. People just need to learn how to know better!

Is FOX biased? Maybe to some. Is MSNBC biased? Maybe to others. However, the American public currently believes that FOX news is the best or the least of all evils because their popularity and ratings have been higher than Whitney Houston (when she was married to Bobby Brown). That leaves me to believe that either the American public is naive or they have finally wised up to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc... and their coverage of the political arena. My guess is the latter.

The old saw: Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you read. That was supposed to differentiate between rumor and fact. No longer applies if I get the gist of all the comments to what appears to be a balanced round table on the issue. If Fox News didn't exist, the American people would have to invent it. It is the only place to go to get the dirty laundry. Also, wasn't it a tabloid that blew the whistle on the John Edwards affair? Being a tabloid didn't make them wrong now, did it? The difference between MSM and Fox News is akin to the difference between an ostrich and a cheetah: one has its head buried (and not in sand) and the other is after prey. I seem to prefer the latter.

Picking a fight with FOX News is absolutely important. They have a very short sighted and deconstructive manner in which FOX does things. Their view is good for promoting FOX's narrow market interests. But in terms of really constructing a national dialog to solve all the issues that are facing this nation they are absolutely not being constructive.

In fact a strong example would be the BS they tried to pull in California over the water war in the Central Valley. FOX wants the water on because it hurts farmer's. But there are bigger issues then just the farmer's! Farmer's livelihoods are important they do need to be addressed, but what about all the other people and jobs that depend on the river? What about the people that need the river for its fish, or anything else for that matter.

In fact I think this whole war with FOX is to make sure FOX gets distracted cause every minute they spend talking about the conflict on air. Is another minute they don't have to spew BS that will sink national decisions that need to be made!

Well did I really write Karl Rover? I think I meant Karl Rove. I hate it when peoples names get butchered (just a personnal thing). Anway, he had some good points on the WH campaign and FOX, as did Krauthammer, I am actually reading a lot of his posts.

I do the same way too often. Z

The liberal left wants to lie to the people and expect the people to believe their lies. The FOX network, I suspect, is the only network telling the world about the lies that are being broadcast and for obvious reasons, the liberal left thinks that they are smarter than everyone else and that the people just don't know what they are talking about. So, the people should only listen to the liberal left, accept what they say and be done with it. Anyone who disagrees with the liberal left just plain don't know what they are talking about. They must be terrorists. Everyone should know that the president is smarter than our founding fathers and his ideas are the only ideas that should be listened to!
Although, almost every word that come out of his mouth is a lie and FOX exposes those lies! That's why they want everyone to shun FOX. They just can't understand why the people of America don't want America destroyed. After all, America is a "mean country" and should be destroyed! The Obama administration, for punishment, wants to turn America into a "banana republic" and a dictatorship. The dictatorship is already in place, i.e. the president and his Czars!. The only thing left is to destroy the economy and that is also being done as quickly as the president can do it. That's the reason for the "big rush" on every bill he has. Everything is a crisis and has to been done immediately. Otherwise, the people will figure out what is taking place and stop his craziness. The president just can't let that happen. Otherwise, his punishment will not happen and he won't be the "hero". His friends, the other world dictators are watching him closely, to see if he can accomplish his goals and join the dictators club! With FOX news exposing his tactics, he has an uphill battle! It is no wonder that he wants FOX to be ignored!!!

It seems the major media has given up and acknowledges that opinion journalism is the trend of the future. It figures it has more to lose with the leads it gets from FOX than being seen to side with any President even to save the news of Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite. While these pioneers roll over in their graves, "news" has died - there is just opinion. How dare the President try and shoot the zombie!

This whole debate simply amazes me. Obviously, your viewpoint depends on who's ox is being gored.

My opinion is that the White House has far more important problems than Fox News, but it doesn't seem to be attending to them.

The news organizations should get back to the news, and Obama should get back to running the government and stop this silly feud!

I also feel that we travel down a dangerous road with the White House declaring war on any news organization, no matter how biased you think it might be. Where does this end? Are we really comfortable with the government attempting to silence anyone who's viewpoint they don't agree with? Are you people that agree with this feud really ready to toss the 1st Amendment out the window? What will you do when your right to free speech is curtailed by whatever administration happens to be in power? Will that be all right with you?

Time for Obama to start acting like the head of state and not some back street brawler!

Sorry, I understand why this is getting discussion. Freedom of speech is at hand the issue.

What I find the larger issue here is why doesn't the administration move on and bring out their big wigs to talk about some democratic issues that should be front and center like Healthcare & the economy?

What we seem to have here is an administration that is totally adverse to criticism in any form.

Obama apparently is one who has pretty much had his way beginning with the "community organizer" title and having been raised in the "ethics'(?) of Chicago politics. In Chicago you are either with me or "I'll break your knees."

His history in the Illinois Senate was mundane at best and anyone viewing his voting record will quickly discover that he voted "present" on legislation of substance EXCEPT those which were far left and liberal.

In Washington he maintained that same pattern and on the advice of the late Sen. Kennedy was advised to run for the presidency BEFORE he could establish a record of substance which could be either negative or positive. He followed that advice and arrived where he is today.

Now he even has members of his own party asking for his assistance in "his" health care bill but he distances himself from making a final decision simply because he does not wish to be viewed "falling on the wrong side of the fence."

In short, let someone else do the heavy work and then ultimately take credit for the end result, ONLY IF IT SERVES HIS PURPOSE.

What we have here is an "Emperor" who is nothing more than an empty suit and detests the fact that there are those news factions out here who continue to expose him.

Frankly he is nothing more than the Hugo Chavez of the U.S.

If, and that is a gigantic if, he had had any sense at all he would have ignored his detractors (and his stupid advisors) and all this hulabaloo would have quite possible receded to only a dim sound.

A man no more intelligent than this should not be POTUS. How in heaven's name can he deal with a true crisis.

Oops, my error!! He, and his goons make a crisis out of everything. As Rahm Emanuel advised him early on, "never fail to take advantage of a crisis."

Now we have the 'swine flu crisis' just as he is attempting to pass a farce of a health care bill. In short, keep as many people in a "panic mode" as possible to deflect their attention to the reality of a situation.

When he descends upon NBC, ABC, CBS, MSM, MSNBC, and CNN with the same vitrol that he has exhibited for Fox then I may begin to take him seriously.

Until then he remains nothing more than a "spoiled mama's boy" who isn't getting his way.

As one of 80 years I have lived to view the conduct of all the POTUS since FDR and this guy is perhaps the least qualified in the past 75 years.

Rule number one for anyone that is in the media spotlight: Never never talk about them (the media) to them (the media). You are the only one who is going to look bad doing it, and as you can see the White House is now in a crap storm that they cannot win. I'm not a big fan of Fox myself, but banning ANY media because you don't agree with their reporting style is wrong down to the very core of our constitution. Who will they ban next? The next independent minded broadcaster that dares to question the White House? Its a slippery slope and we all know that is just plain wrong. I have plenty of friends that I think are wrong or misguided in their opinions but I don't dismiss them. Why, because it is wrong to do so. This is all starting to sound like the beginnings of "state run media" to me.

The way The President described the ACTUAL comments made about Faux News, it was certainly not as the press is reporting it. The only "war" actually being fought is Fox News' head and in the soft heads of their viewers. The President's comments were innocuous in reality. He simply called it like it was. Fox News is not real news. Fox is like WWF compared to other media outlets who are UFC. Fox is a charade like the National Enquirer and anyone worth their salt can recognize this. The President was merely speaking the truth. No one else is listening except for Fox and their 1 million regular viewers who live in a closed off right wing world of their own. There is no "war" with Fox or any other paranoid, persecution complexed news organizations. I'm sure the President like the rest of us aren't even paying attention to this non story anymore. Yet Fox and the Media are going to milk this for every dime they can make off it.

Does Beck and Hannity inflame for the game or the fame? They mesmerize and proselytize and purport talking points for unthinking conservatives, and entertainment for thinking liberals. The problem is how to get thinking conservatives to counteract the damage Fox does to both left and right, and to educate the unthinking liberals and conservatives who too often respond with hate toward one another. Perhaps, all sides should just "take time to sift the dung"...

"We have met the enemy and he is us."

Whether any set of "news" agencies is liberal or conservative in its approach to the administration in power is not the real issue. There have been supporters and detractors since George Washington (and before).

It is abundantly clear that our country is reaping the rewards of its naive quest to seek "change" from a political rookie whose experience level is nil, associations are questionable, and goals are in high dispute. His election is a reflection of the discontent of the electorate...the "I deserve more than I'm getting" syndrom of a spoiled nation believing in entitlement. The election of the current administration was a knee-jerk reaction and it will produce change...but will the resultant change(s) satisfy the craving? It's doubtful.

In 2010 and 2012 we will have the opportunity to cast our ballots in support or disagrement with the latest "change agent". Failure to excercise that opportunity leaves non-participants with little meaningful voice beyond "whining".

We have what the majority of the electoral college asked for. The real question becomes: Do we wish to keep it?

"Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are bound to repeat them." G Santyana

scott...would you please give me an unbiased and intellectual reason as to why it's insane to say MSNBC is Obama's mouthpiece, but not insane to claim FNC is not a news outlet? And the argument is not that FNC is conservative...you're right, anybody who watches FNC would agree with you (although I wouldn't agree with the "very" part of your assessment) that they lean to the right. The argument is, however, that FNC has every right to be conservative just like MSNBC has every right to be liberal and no government official has the right to discredit either of them. I don't enjoy watching MSNBC at all...ever!! But that's because I don't share their viewpoints on the Obama administration being the greatest thing since sliced bread. But I still see them as a news outlet and would hate to see any Republican official discredit them as so. As Mr. O' would say..."wise up." :)

Harry...as a long time Fox News viewer, I can tell that you did not watch FNC during the Bush administration...which by the way is perfectly fine and your right as an American. However, let me attempt to enlighten you before you make comments such as that. I would ask you to take the time to watch the George Bush interview by Bill O'reilly and honestly tell me he didn't ask very tough questions and doubt some of the answers. Glenn Beck (who wasn't on FNC at the time but is in question now) disliked the Bush administration nearly as much as Obama. You can still read old Beck transcripts online. Hannity at the time of Bush was part of the duo of Hannity and Colmes (perhaps misspelled), with Colmes being one of the biggest Liberals on FNC, and still is. Both debated eachother nightly with Hannity being pro-Bush and Colmes being anti-Bush. Now as far as the policies of the Bush administration...sure FNC didn't hammer them as much as Obama's policies, but that's because FNC leans to the right!! It's the same reason CNN and MSNBC hammered those same issues and are more pleased now with Obama's policies...they lean left!! I hate to sound so frustrated with the exclamation points, but people like you don't open yours eyes to both sides and accept the fact that you are a liberal and will in turn side more with pro-liberal arguments. I am a conservative and therefore side more with pro-conservative arguments. The difference between us, though, is that I listen to intelligent liberal stances and accept the importance of two American voices respectfully disagreeing.

In response to Sherry T., contextually the idea of a meme spreading doesn't much apply to Tucker's statement. She chose a loaded way to describe Obama responding, as Mr. Zurawik points out, in a forceful way. The implications of Watergate and his resignation aside, Nixon was available but aloof when addressing the press. Those implications taken into consideration, Nixon unabashedly accused the press of lying. I disapprove of the comparison as it leads to the assumption that Obama is acting from a compromised position, but I realize that I'm reading too much into her passing remark, which was really only meant to demonstrate the hypocrisy in right wing media denouncing Obama for choosing what appear to be both 'weak' and 'strong' responses to the same problem.

I think Obama is less concerned about proving his tenacity and more acting out of a sense of desperation to communicate constructively with his opposition. FN appears to live in its own imaginary, profit-driven world that, regarding policy analysis and suggestion, bears out no valid contribution. The media does not serve the administration, it serves the people. When vast constituencies choose to gather erroneous information from a network that has no interest in entertaining the truth, all Americans suffer.

fred...let me explain to you how your thought process works in reverse for the other half of the country. First, you're absolutely right...this squabble does make clear to the people who the villains are. The problem for you and your liberal friends is that the conclusion "the people" come to depends on which side of the aisle they sit. As a conservative, this makes me wonder what the White House is hiding that they're so afraid of FNC finding out. A thought that never would have crossed my mind if they weren't so serious with their contempt for this right leaning news outlet. And why don't they have a problem with the left leaning news outlets? Can I trust any of these now since the administration loves them so much? I'm worried about Obama spoon feeding information to the country. I'm worried about skeletons in the closet. I'm worried about an uninformed America. So who do you think me and my conservative friends see as the villains now? Both sides of an argument need to be easily accessible to the public for these questions not to arise in the minds of those on the fence with this administration. And believe it or not...that's a lot of people!

debo...why should Conservatives be outraged when Obama's liberal policies are attacked? They're LIBERAL POLICIES!! That doesn't make any sense. Should the Liberals have been up in arms back when Bush's concervative policies were attacked? Of course not. They're CONSERVATIVE POLICIES!! I need to stop reading all these comments because it's making me sad seeing how difficult it is for Americans to have an open mind towards the other side of the aisle.

Hey Jarod, But I appreciate your comments and passion for an informed and civil discussion. Thanks. Z

skeptic...you want me to check out "Liberal Viewers videos" to convince me of conservative bias? You don't think those might be a little bias in explaining the bias of the conservative media? Are there any "Conservative Viewers videos" I can watch to convince me of liberal bias and explain to me the bias of the liberal media? :)

roland...the only reason you believe the tea party rallies were filled with "skin heads and bigots" is because that's what you were told by your left leaning news outlets. Those that get their news from right leaning news outlets believe the rallies were filled with peacefully frustrated, hard working Americans who wanted to be heard. The truth is neither of us were there so we'll never know for sure, but everyone will form their own opinions based on the information they get. And in my personal opinion the only reason these people are thought of by any lefty as "skin heads and bigots" is that they oppose some of the policies of the Obama administration...and we all know by now that anyone that dares to do that must certainly be a racist! No other explanation. Remember roland, there's two sides to every story...and you'll never always get it right.

I'd like to take a moment from my many rebuttles to give cheers to the comment by mephisto. well said!

dave...I agree completely that the "unpatriotic" and "unamerican" brandings of those against the Bush administration's policies were uncalled for, embarassing, and harmful to the advancement of an intellectual argument. But unfortunately for America, the Obama administration decided to keep that train rolling. Racist is the new unpatriotic. It didn't help us during the Bush years and it's not helping us now. Although I did not vote for Obama, I was hopeful for the "change" he promised. But I just don't see it yet.

sharonk...There's a big difference between criticizing FNC and taking away their constitutional right to freedom of press by barring them from interviews with government officials.

Mike R...That's honestly the best idea I've heard to solve this. Seriously, well said!

Fear, Fear leads to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger to hatred, hatred to suffering.....Master Yoda, The Phantom Menace to a young Anakin Skywalker.

President Obama and his administration is afraid of Fox news. Unlike much of the media these days there are those at Fox that are actually looking into President Obama and his staffs pasts. They are bringing up uncomfortable truths about a great many things.

This has made the administration afraid. Afraid that they will not accomplish anything they hope to do so because in truth many of these revelations are not palpable by the general populace. They failed to properly vet individuals and they know that it will be hard to get their agenda through especially if Congress takes up the issue and really starts investigating.

So their fear bubbled over into anger and as when angry they lash out at anything that offends them in some way. It is not rational, it is a knee jerk reaction which actually makes them look worse and worse by doing it.

Think about it a man who espoused to be the next Lincoln or Kennedy. Who proclaimed change we could believe in, is now because of his recent actions being compared to Nixon. That's a great fall from the lofty goals they had hoped.

It would be wise of them to stop the attacks on Fox news and other institutions, they are eroding their support in doing so.

I was on foxnews.com today reading about a meteorite that had crashed into the Earth. After reading some of the comments that Obama administration has put out recently regarding Fox News, I am now convinced that this is part of a vast right-wing conspiracy aimed at destroying our water supply.

Thank you, Mr. Obama for shedding light on the conservative menace!! Their asteroid doomsday plans are surely foiled now!!!

EW,

I agree the media serves the people, but also the this administration has been using the media to push an agenda and singling out one media to exclude was certainly not in the best interest of the American people. That does interfere with our democracy. And, the media serves the people best when it has freedom of press to express truthful news so that we can understand better where we are headed as an American people. Obama's war on FOX is not really helping and I really wish he could focus on the economy and the healthcare and the two wars we are in.

Bob Hanssen...What exactly will Fox News "go on about for another week or two?" Will they go on about the fact that the Obama administration is attempting to steal away from them the freedom of press guaranteed by the Constitution? Will they go on about informing its audience of news which the Obama administration may not want the public to know about? Will they go on being one of the few voices of opposition which is absolutely necessary in a free society such as ours? As we've seen from this recent pay czar nonsense, FNC will have plenty of "administration officials to harangue face-to-face." Although ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN may dislike FNC along with the Obama administration and the liberals of the country, they will never allow these White House tactics to continue. They can't! Any government barring of news outlets now will lead to government barrings of news outlets in the future. FNC will never say "uncle" nor should we as informed Americans want them to. There has to be two voices because there's always two sides to a story. And if the White House knew what they were doing they would let this fued quietly fizzle away and go back to governing this country...and in return, FNC should quietly let it fizzle away gloat-free and go back to being a voice of opposition. You need to remember, Bob, that half of the country dislikes Obama as much as the other half loves him.

For the record, I am glad President Obama is focusing his efforts on Fox News. The more time he wastes trying to discredit the most popular news outlet in the country, the less time he spends stealing my money, losing the war and RUINING OUR ECONOMY.

To mephisto's comment...don't think for a second that a single person at Fox News is ACTUALLY upset with the recent negative "press" received from the Obama administration. Rupert Murdoch's grand master plan to drive up his already high ratings could not have done half the job that the White House did for free. You can bet the free world that the words "Thank you" and "President Obama" have been uttered many times in the same sentence at the FNC HQ this week.

All political views aside, you have to give the Fox News leadership credit for exploiting the otherwise lack of conservative news within the MSM (television MSM that is). From a pure business perspective, they have brilliantly established a niche that no one else ever thought to occupy.

That said, I refuse to watch Fox News because I can't stand to have someone else's opinion slammed dunked down my throat. The same goes for MSNBC and really all TV news for that matter. As TV media continues down the path to complete polarization, more and more centrists like myself will abandon their TV news in favor of the internet where at the very least such opinions don't assault me both visually AND audibly.

The only TV news I can find bearable these days is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Of course he’s about as left as they come BUT at least he doesn’t try to pretend otherwise. All of these claims of “Fair and Balanced” or the “No Spin Zone” or whatever make me want to vomit. You can dumb down almost all the current news (and politics for that matter) to name calling and finger pointing. This is also why the silent majority of Americans could care less about the world’s current state of affairs and why people like myself prefer their TV news strictly “fake.”
-DJ

Jarod, you say that Obama is 'stealing' from Fox News their constitutionally given right to freedom of the press. The distinction you seem to be missing is that Obama is not limiting what FN can report in any way, he is revoking the privilege of having a direct audience with the white house, which is well within his right. If your network routinely provokes its viewership by intentionally validating absurd ideas, e.g. 'death panels', that influence can directly lead to problems enacting policy (specifically through congressmen acting like puppets controlled by opinion of their demographic).

To Sherry, the only 'agenda' this administration is pushing is progress through cooperation and compromise. Knowledge is power, and a willingly mislead populous is not only irresponsible, it is dangerous. Do you honestly think that the Obama administration, with democratic majority in congress, would have any problem ramming through whatever bill they wanted?

This administration wants everyone on the same page at the expense of expediency. What he's encountering is a spiteful, misguided republican base that has consistently taken the low road by not only ignoring any civil attempt at communication, but attempts to lie about and sensationalize opportunities for rational change. The amusing part is that the republican party has no interest in helping middle and lower class Americans, younger republicans being a largely uneducated following this sentiment is usually lost on them. So FN makes implications that Obama is elitist because he is intelligent (really)? It is not Obama that looks down on you, republican voters, it is your own old/rich/divided party. Besides, what's wrong with everyone getting along? If the first thought that popped into your head when you read 'getting along' was an anger toward democrats, then you are part of the problem. FN is an elaborate veil that intentionally creates friction between those of differing opinion instead of encouraging unity. The language used, the subtext, the repetition of certain stories and ignorance to others, promoting blatant falsehoods. I can understand wanting to have a network that is biased to the right, that makes perfect sense to me, but the way FN goes about it is abhorrent.

EW...A news organization having direct access to the White House is not a "priviledge"...it is an absolute necessity in order for all Americans to be informed. Basically you and the administration are telling me that if I want information directly from the White House I have to watch CNN or MSNBC. How is that fair? I'm not a liberal, why would I want to watch left leaning news shows? I would never tell you and your fellow liberals that if you want to get information from the White House you must watch FNC. That's ridiculous. You are not conservatives. You are saying FNC doesn't deserve access because YOU don't think they are worthy of it. Now YOU as a citizen have every right to feel that way...but Obama does not have that luxury. He is a public servant, and cannot abuse the power of the presidency. His rights to act on his "feelings" were revoked the day he took office. And Obama and his right-hand men are not the White House. The White House is made up of Senators and Congressmen and speakers and leaders and a ton of other titles, and if Obama wants to limit FNC's access to the White House, he needs to take it up with all of them first. We as Americans voted all of them in, not just the President. Now, the "absurd ideas" you speak of are "absurd" because you don't agree with them. I think the ideas put forth to the viewers of CNN and MSNBC are absurd, too. But thats because I don't agree with them. Should the're White House access be revoked now because i don't agree with there left leaning way of reporting the news? Of course not. Now as far as the "death panels" go...I'll admit I have not read the health care bill myself, and I'm guessing you, EW, have not either since we have jobs, and families, and responsibilities, and who has the time to read 1000 pages? So we are both going off what we hear in our respected news outlets. The foundation of your argument here is that you think the Republicans are lying and the Democrats are telling the truth. Because let's face it, FNC didn't come up with this on their own, Republicans are claiming it to be true. Now would you feel better if we refered to these "death panels" as "advance care planning consultation" as Sarah Palin and other conservatives say is the actual wording in the bill? The question for every American is which do you think is more likely? 1.) Republicans simply made it up. 2.) Democrats are hiding it. 3.) Both sides are right in their respected ways of viewing what's written. My guess would be number 3, but I can't answer that until I actually read the bill (which I won't). So before you, EW, use examples of "absurd ideas" in the future, which you have every right to do, just make sure you have all the facts straight, and directly from the horses mouth. All news is bias, but being trully "informed" starts with knowing that going in, and being intelligent enough to decide between right and wrong in merit, not just in information. And finally, the problems enacting policy are only "problems" to you because you like the policies. I, however, do not...so I see no problem here. Any policy put into use by Congress needs to be acceptable to both sides of the aisle. That's why we as Americans get to choose our candidates from multiple parties. Your idea that Republicans don't vote for a Democratic bill simply because they're a "puppet" of the Republican party is the same way a Democrat WILL vote for a Democratic bill because THEY are a "puppet" of the Democratic party. I choose to believe, however, that most of our Congressmen vote for what they truly believe in, but that's just me. I can definately see your concern, but you have to remember that concern goes both ways, not just when you happen to like the policy in question. In conclusion, media bias is not going away any time soon. We as Americans just need to know that, accept that, and allow ourselves to open our ears and minds to the other side of every argument. We're not all going to agree ever, but we can try...and I would appreciate the Obama administration allowing us to figure it out ourselves! Thank you.

EW,

You asked, actually I do think that Obama would have trouble passing things even with a democratic majority in congress. Especially the healthcare reform what do we really know about it. He is getting opposition from his own party. Yes, there is a lot to be done. Not to mention he is losing independents.

And the freedom of the press issue is a big one for me. We have to maintain that or we might as well re-write the constitution.

Before I forget. Too much Gosselin.

Back to the real world. I like Laura Ingram but I just want to know why she tried to pick a fight about Charlie Gibson and that Acorn? Just wasn't the time or place.

Irene,

It was kind of strange. It seemed like she brought that up out of the blue. I think though that there has been a concensus that the ACORN story was not covered on CNN and I am not sure about MSNBC, but it was covered extensively on FOX. I am not sure, but that might have been what she was getting at.

I agree it did not seem to fit the discussion really. That's all I could think of.

This is completely not on the topic, but I was at the library today and they have the American Free Press paper free, who would have known? My friend wanted Gleen Beck's new book?? Go figure.

Z,

That was supposed to be Glenn Beck, butchered name again. The American Free Press seems pretty radical just from a few glances at it, wow. Especially the foreign policy. I wonder what else my library is giving away. My friend and I don't agree on Glenn Beck, but we agree to disagree. That makes it fun. See I learn something everyday from this blog and these political articles. How can I make this relate to the post????

Well this was an interesting discussion and the AFP free paper from the library is in the trash can. I guess they have freedom of press and speech and can give it away at the public library. Yea for democracy.

On the note of this article. I am glad that we have freedom of the press and I am glad that we have freedom to choose what we want to watch and read, that became clearer to me today.