I thought it was funny that Ellen kept reminding Kate she didn't know anything about her (a narcissist's worst nightmare, right?) People on other blogs have pointed out that she lied about the bedrest. She said she was on bedrest for 30 weeks when the tups were actually born at 30 weeks and we know she wasn't on bedrest since the time of conception. I don't think it was an intentional lie, but more evidence of how Kate is constantly embellishing her story to garner sympathy.

Last night as I lay in bed. I thought about an important juncture of my life about 14 years ago. I was a military wife of 2 small girls. Their father and I decided to seperate. He and I were both born and raised in the midwest. Our parents were very saddened. I felt like a failure. Here I was the 1st grandaughter married, the 1st to have a baby, & the 1st to get divorced. My children's father was filled with the same maybe more because he did not see it coming. Long story short I was offered an extremely generous opportunity from my parents that I turned down. I just could not picture in any sense of the word taking my children 850 miles from their father. We struggled & the 2 of us although not married anymore have lived within 10 miles of one another ever since. And, our children have never had to choose.

That does not make me some hero or their dad.

My point is (I do have one) that the show on Ellen cemented in my mind this whole ordeal with the Gosselins when you crack the walnuts open is a parent/s desire to extend celebrity & a lifestyle of the rich and famous.

Kate talks about "for the sake of my kids" but her actions are so self serving. She has been on every talk show that TLC would let her.

Jon talks about "for the sake of my kids" but his actions are so self serving. Money, women, fast cars do not buy happiness.

Now, why? maybe NBC will shed some light. Who knows. They are gonna want ratings.

I feel some days like a bipolar blogger about this whole ordeal. One day I am mad as heck at them, one day I am sad, one day laughing out loud about how outrageous this whole things is.

Bottom line Kate you will never convince me you wanted this to be a private matter. You just wanted control and to be able to have the story told "your way" Well life ain't Burger King we do not always get it our way!

Z,

Glad you are back! Yes, can't wait to hear about the NBC role in the TLC show - great, thanks. Can't wait that will give us a lot for discussion.

Kate does not agree that they brought this on themselves hmmmm. She doesn't know how to say NO! This is bad for my family and I want out. Yikes.

I have to run to work. See you Z and all the BBF's in a little while.

Ugh. "Certain ones of us like to keep things private." Must be referring to when she went on the Today show to announce that Jon had taken $230K from their "fluid" account.

"Everything I do is for my kids, like getting a ring for me, getting my nails done, appearing on talk shows, etc."

What more can you say about this woman?? I'm feeling ill....

Yep, Kate is still spinning. I think her code talk was another dig at Jon. Kate can we move on now. And, she is scraping together her last dime for that ring again. How broke did you say you were Kate? And the kids will have to work for their rings because it is all about me.

Personally, I would have rather seen the interview Ellen did with Katie Couric. Ellen was funny as usual. I did get a laugh out of the Kate wig and costume.

This woman truly thinks that she is a "star". She is nothing but a laughing stock. David it's truly a wonder there is room for the rest of humanity as she feels the whole world is Kate & Kate Plus 8!!

Ellen tried with a few good comments-loved the "talking in code" reference. Also loved when Ellen asked if kids were getting a ring. But how can Kate say kids don't have a job?? They work on show as hard as anyone.
Also, how could Kate be on bed rest 30 weeks-they were born at 30 weeks..

Z, can the editors move some of our Ellen comments up to this post?

Some of those comments are truly priceless.

I can see how hurt she is when she describes having to tell the kids that she will no longer be married to their Dad.

I don't like her much as a person but I can still feel empathy for her. I heard a psychologist say that the most hurtful thing a spouse can do is to have an affair.

We need to change our divorce laws to protect children and spouses.

Seems like Kate uses her little girl voice for lies, so all you have to hear is the tone.

TLC needs to hire a new cliche writer for Kate...her all-purpose responses are worn out.

I'm not sure how she can think she's being quiet/silent for her kids when she's on so many talk shows? Just being on TV is giving fuel to this whole discussion which is harming her kids. Couldn't believe that she said "It's been a good experience that has been taken from her and the kids too soon".

She still doesn't get it. She never will.

And the whole her kids can have a ring when they get a job... umm... they've been working for the past five seasons, Kate. Only difference is, they didn't have a say in it.

I think Ellen did a good job in "playing dumb"... the whole speaking in code thing. Love the wig. Love it.

So...any news on the ratings for the Kate show Monday night?

I tried to watch this yesterday on You Tube but had to turn it off about 45 seconds in. I just cannot tolerate Kate. She's grating, to say the least. I'll just leave it at that.

My biggest complaint with Kate's interviews is that she NEVER ANSWERS A QUESTION.

I've seen her do it with Larry King, Meredith Veiera, now Ellen DeGeneres.

The only one who didn't let her get away with the evasive non-answering was Whoppi Goldberg.

Z, why on earth do these interviewers let her get away with not answering a question??

I didn't make it though the whole clip. Too painful. She she says her job is being a mother and that's how she makes a living. WTF!!

You were blessed with 8 healthy kids, blessed with the opportunity to make millions of dollars to be in the public eye for the first five years of their lives, and you had the opportunity to wisely spend/save that money, live a normal life without mansions, nannies, groundskeepers, etc. and raise your own kids as a full-time mom living off the millions.

If your job is "raising your kids" start saving some money, live a normal life and go raise them. Enough with "we can't go back." The public forgets and moves on very quickly. Ask Monica Lewinsky. You can be everywhere and then nowhere.

If you're not going to do that, just be honest and say "I want the fame, money, attention, etc. more than I ever dreamed possible." Enough of "I'd die for my kids". Actions speak so much louder than words and the actions don't match the words at all.

Z, I know you were really busy yesterday. Just wanted to make sure you saw this & curious to hear your take.

http://www.jewishvaluesnetwork.org/events.php

Maybe she will do the "big reveal" of the ring with Natalie Morales next week. I cannot believe how this woman puts out her wish list like there's a fairy godmother out there. I will bet you that the ring was specially designed and she'll be hawking the "Kate Gosselin Mother of All Rings" for this Xmas.

I don't believe Ellen did any research on this woman other than what her staff came up with because she kept saying she didn't know much about what was going on. So why have her on the show? Obviously Ellen didn't have any imput on this particular guest.

To quote our esteemed Irene, "LordieBee!"

I just saw an article that says STAR (so it could be fictional!) is saying Kate is accusing Jon of stealing her diary. Apparently, it was on her nightstand when she left "her custody" and when she returned after Jon was there... ta daaaaa.. it was GONE!

It goes on to say that she questioned the kids and they all said they didn't "steal it". Wouldn't you love to have witnessed that inquisition? I can see it now.. all kids lined up (in birth order of course) along the wall with Kate strutting back and forth, stilettos clicking on wood floor, screaming at them. "WHO TOOK MY DIARY? IF YOU DON'T TELL ME, THERE WILL ONLY BE 3 CRACKERS ON YOUR PLATE RATHER THAN THE USUAL STOMACH FILLING 5." I can see all the kids pointing at one another for blame and Mama K screaming.." IF ONE OF YOU DOESN'T TAKE THE BLAME, THEN YOU ALL WILL STAND HERE UNTIL TOMORROW MORNING. DIDN'T I TELL YOU THERE WOULD BE SERVERE PUNISHMENT FOR ANY KID THAT GOES INTO MY BEDROOM?"

Will these two EVER stop?

I mean.. DIARY?.. all she says is how she doesn't have time for anything and needs help all the time. But, she has TIME to write in a diary?

Plus.. and this is the best part of the "story".. the article has quotes from "an insider" (Colin?) that lists about 12 embarrassing diary entry topics. They range from Kate is uncomfortable with her body image to the lip-smacking fact that she misses sex with Jon and doesn't like Joy Behar because she asked why Kate didn't stop filming!!

The thing that makes me not believe any of this is that I doubt Ms Kate would leave her bedroom unlocked for the days she is gone and Jon is there. I am sure she had a huge padlock put on that door. Aren't you?

TOO FUNNY!

I just remember why I love Ellen, she played the stupid card and basically hinted to Kate Gosselin that she doesn't know who she is and that she's not important enough for her to care...

Here's a message to Kate, your interns and TLC, go buy your own stupid ring. My Mother who never even stepped foot in a school building back in the old country because Grandpa felt girls had no need for education, worked any minial jobs to buy food and pay bills and she never harped on about jewelry. She continued to work even when she had bronchitis and finally had to stop because it became pneumonia. Kate Gosselin, you can't even compare to my poor Mom's arthritic little pinky tip.

What in the world was she wearing?!! It sort of looks like someone tried to cover her up at the last minute by throwing her a sweater.

Why was she there? To say that she's not talking? To beg for her ring? To expose her upper thighs?

And Kate.. The kids have been working for a long time. Go home and raise them.

I dont see where you get the idea that Kate was "panhandling". Ellen simply asked her about the absence of her wedding ring and Kate replied that "as some point she would like to get another ring with 8 small diamonds and mother of pearl" to represent her 8 children and wear that ring. Where is the panhandling???? She never asked for funds to buy the ring. Your predjudice against Kate is causing you to fabricate events that didnt happen. I think its time for you to step back and leave the Kate coverage to some other source now, a source who can report on news about Kate and the kids without making "facts" up.

I'm beyond myself as to why she thinks that anyone including her children give a darn about her ring. No one, I repeat no one cares if you wear a wedding ring or any other kind of ring!

Since when has anyone's five or nine year old commented on a wedding ring or made a big deal about it? SHE is the one that is talking to her children and making a big fuss about a ring that symbolizes a lie and a broken marriage. I literally laughed out loud when she stated that her kids are excited about her new diamond and mother of pearl ring - projecting again!

Dr. Lillian Glass' blog about her narcassism is just spot on and is good reading for anyone that thinks Kate is still a good mother.

Just read that TLC have been filming a series called Table of 12 since the J&K8+ announced the divorce.

It seems TLC are going to bring this family in to ease out the J&K8+ show. And I think they will be dropping Kate as soon as the last episode airs of J&K8+, as they wont need her constant spin to promote an unfilmable show.

Note these two interviews were only done as fillers, so they can piece together the remaining episodes from existing footage.

So Kate will be spinning off into memory soon, and Jon will finally get his wish of ending the show. I wish I could believe its about the children, but here is coming out of this a lot more genuine.

Onwards... This sideshow will all still end...

What a relief to read your blog...sanity still exists, then. I loved the interview with Ellen..she had Kate restrained somewhat, but couldn't seem to hinder her "spinning" enough for my satisfaction.

I commented on your other thread about Kate's Ellen appearance. First, when Ellen asked her how she was dealing with being on all of "those covers", Kate began with, "I won't lie." Does this sound like a politician to you? Anybody who has to start out a sentence with, "I won't lie" you can pretty much count on the fact that they DO lie all the time, but just this once, they won't.

Also, Ellen asked Kate her opinion of why she was on all of those covers. Of course, Kate didn't get it. Ellen, in my opinion, was trying to point out that there are a lot of people who are in the public eye who are NOT on 50 covers a month of these tabloid magazines and the reason may be because Kate is a freak show and a train wreck and that's why people flock to these magazines. Kate doesn't yet get it. It isn't because Kate is a good person, or a good actress, or even a good mother -- it's because she is a freak show. Kate either didn't understand Ellen's point or she just chose to ignore the obvious.

And, again with the "I do it for my kids." This is getting old. She's gone more than she is home. I'm sure her kids would appreciate it more if she were actually home being a mother to them. It's not that she's out working and then coming home in the evening, she is GONE. Thousands of miles away from her kids promoting herself. Come on, Kate, let's get real. This is all about YOU!

What a stupid twitch. Why make such a big deal about your ring and whether or not you are wearing it. My kids would not notice one way or the other and they are not 5 years old. My ring is off more than it's on because I garden and paint. Get over it Kate, you are not a celebrity. I'll bet you can hardly wait for your kids to get back to "work" to continue supporting you.

Hi Sue. Excellent points about rings and having them off to do normal, hard-working things around the house. But you are a sane person, whereas Kate now seems to think she is the re-incarnation of Princess DIana, so she couldn't do such common things. Thanks. Z

Kate - "I would prefer to keep things private". Good grief, then why are you going on every talk show boo hoo hooing about your life? What a hypocrite.

My take, Kate starts out with her first lie by stating "I won't lie." HA! Then the second lie spews out "I would like to keep it as quiet as possible." HA, again! She has been on more talk shows than I can remember but yet she is trying to keep it QUIET as possible. The spin is blatantly obvious. She is a legend in her own mind.

Can you or somebody help me understand the Kate spin? I don't understand the appeal of this woman any longer or I can no longer understand her relevance.

Her only claim to fame is that she birthed a litter of sextuplets while she had already twins. (Both pregnancies conceived through artificial means.) Kate claims that she has done television for so many years that it seems so natural for her and that she has found her niche. So much so, that she hopes to parlay this into a career in movies. She also keeps stating that this is her job. This is her paycheck. And her supporters also come to her defense and state on numerous blogs and message boards that she is the only one working to support her family. So, if this is her job and this her paycheck. My question is what is the “this” that she continues reference in each and every interview? What is the “this”? What is she actually doing to earn this paycheck? What skill(s), talent, goods or services does she provide in “this” job [position]?

Lately, it seems her job only seems to entail to sitting on a couch or in an interview chair and talk about how this is her job. If I am to assume that the show, “Jon & Kate plus Eight,” is her “job” then how is it the show is not also her children’s job as well. If it wasn’t their job then show would have been called “Jon &Kate.”

Kate Gosselin continues to espouse in every interview “I am a mom first.” If she is a Mom first then why is not with her children…first? She can always do remote satellite interviews from her home in PA. I read a tongue-in-cheek comment that “she’s not a Mom but plays one on a reality TV show” with every interview that she does I am beginning to think that this may in fact be true.

And now with the latest “Kate Her Side of the Story” you can’t help but ask yourself what else is there to say that she has not said already. Between the Today Show (twice), The View (three times), Larry King Live, Oprah, Ellen, People magazine. What else is left to be said that she has said already ad nauseum.

Finally, Ellen made a very interesting comment in the very beginning. “I don’t read these magazines. I am in this business I stay out as much as I can.” This seems to be the sentiment of true celebrities. And a point completely oblivious to Kate who seems to take the exact opposite approach with her appearance one show after the other after the other after the other.

Ok what was the point of this? Borat uses the English language better than Kate. Certain ones of them speak out and some make dinner?? Is she making the dinner? A ring is a symbol of her kids? Most people carry school pictures in their wallets. You know, Ellen gifted the kids with bikes about 2 years ago (as seen on an episode) because they could not afford to buy them all one. Did Kate thank her? "This is my job. This is my paycheck". What exactly is "this?" Dude, who is she f______?

Hey Z,

I really enjoy your perspective on TV and I think you have a good independent streak.

However, I am constantly baffled at how much time you spend discussing Jon and Kate. This unimportant woman is full of it and spouts nonsense, we get it, is a new post required every time she makes an appearance on television to say the same thing?

I wish the scope of this blog was expanded to include more things going on in the vast world of television.

In your last 14 posts, 7 have been about Jon/Kate, 5 have been about White House vs. Fox (at least this is actually an important debate), and 2 have covered other topics.

I think she was not only panhandling for that ring but a job also. Ellen didn't seem to like Kate or care one way or the other.

OMG, listening to Kate talk -- even for only a few minutes -- truly makes my head spin! Seems like she goes round and round in circles but somehow always ends up back at "I" or "me".

My ex-husband has a narcissistic personality and he was the same way. No matter what the topic of conversation, he found a way to twist it so it ended up being about him and making himself look good (at least in his own eyes). It's like they're in some sort of different reality and while they're speaking, people are just looking at them like , WTH are you talking about?! Kinda like, they're not interested in actually communicating with anyone, they just like to hear themselves talk. Geez, 7 minutes of Kate was more than enough for me!

And the part about the kids being sooooo excited about her new ring?! What?!?! You've gotta be kidding me!? Their little worlds are crumbling -- mom & dad divorcing, cameras following them everywhere they go, beloved dogs taken away, TLC crews gone (a good thing, but nonetheless probably a difficult adjustment for them) -- and Kate actually believes they're that excited about HER new ring???! Un-freaking-believable!

I'd really love to see a court-appointed advocate for those children. Maybe then they could get some counseling and maybe Kate would even be forced to have a psych evaluation and get some help.

Kate Gosselin AGAIN throwing out hints for some bubble-headed jeweler to make and give her that ring! Only this time, she actually stated that she would buy it AFTER she gets a job. Then she rolled her eyes and said how the kids are all excited about it! (Can you picture little children getting all happy because Mom might change a piece of her jewelry?!) I guess McDonald's pays more than it used to.

I loved how she answered questions with long, convoluted babbles strung together, all adding up to nothing. And just so we don't misunderstand her selfless intentions, she says she doesn't do the show for the free trips and whatever else she can snooker viewers and businesses out of.

And that statement about how some people go around blabbing and others keep their mouths shut and cook for the kids! By that, I suppose she's giving credit to the TLC-provided chefs, nannies, etc. Oh, wait! She saying SHE'S the latter, while Jon is the former!

I think Kate is a psychopath. Truly.

Z, I would be interested in knowing what your readers think the title of the movie should be that Kate aspires to star in. If she were in a soap opera, I'd give new meaning to an old phrase and call it "As the Worm Turns."

Kate says, "you can't return, you can't reverse". Really? It's actually quite simple. She needs to get her mug out of hollywood, stop giving interviews, talking to the media, dump TLC, etc. She just doesn't want to. She's in love with the spotlight and herself.

She spews out the same regurgitated BS over and over and over again. Ellen was being polite, but reading between the lines, she didn't seem to know a whole lot about the show or really care for that matter. I got the sense that she was puzzled as to why Kate would continue this farce.

"Our time on the show was cut too short". How long did she think it was going to last? And for whom was it cut short for? Certainly not the kids. She claims that they've done the show to collect memories. That's going to an extreme to "collect" memories. How about a camcorder Kate?

I think Ellen's head started to explode as she tried to follow the convoluted twists of Kate's mind.
Kate really did not answer the simple questions Ellen asked. Saying that she wanted to keep things quiet while she has appeared on Talk Shows at least once a week- for weeks. Talking about everything (embarrassing to the kids and negative about their father) and every single time "Panhandling" for that d*** ring.
I really liked her line about the kids needed a job to get a ring of their own. Didn't they have one? Supporting her and her spa trip trips, cosmetic surgeries and fancy hairdo?
Ellen is the first interviewer who has called Kate her nonsense speech. I now admire her for it. About time someone said what educated people watching are thinking- "Can Kate form a complete sentence? What she is saying makes no sense."
Other supposedly professional interviewers have just sat there and acted as if what Kate is saying makes total sense and have even agreed with her on points. I have lost respect for so many supposed "News Journalists" and networks.
Kate cannot clearly think or talk on a subject, she is not graceful (stumbles on to stages), I guess she may be attractive to some but her fashion sense (or her handlers) is strange, she is not generous to other who are less fortunate, she has scammed Churches and church goers for hard earned money then dropped them because they no longer have anything to offer her and she appears to have no talent beyond producing litters of children.
WHY is she being given this huge push for fame and opportunities that others with talent, grace, style and beauty are not?
Is it that the network REALLY wants to keep exploiting her kids for the big bucks and she is the only means to them? What is it?
If you could find the answer to that question Z- you would be come my hero and also answer the question of what has TV media become...

I saw this and was I ever glad I did. Ellen's total lack of interest in Kate's ramblings was so obvious I had to laugh.

I honestly believe that Ellen's disinterest took Kate down a couple of notches in a much more effective way than anyone drilling Kate ever would have.

Ellen merely didn't care and that's a narcissists worst nightmare.

I am so sick of the media making Kate the good one in this. Ellen should give equal time to Jon to put out his side. Kate says she does everything for her kids-HAA! She had those kids to get on TV and she is only ACTING like she is taking the high road. The whole divorce would not have hapened if it were not for her cheating with her bodyguard. Jon is reacting with his emotions because he is hurt. Kate is ACTING because she orcastrated this who fiasco and doesn't give a crap about Jon. Shame on you Kate supporters. Why doesn't anyone ever support the kids without supporting their money grabbing, fame hungry mother? I have been in family law for over 30 years and I can tell you from experience that the one in control of themself is the one who committed the offensive to start the divorce. The one who acts out emotionally or by dating everything he/she can is the one who was harmed. Majority of divorces happen because women want what's on the other side of the fence, because they can no longer control their husband. Kate married Jon for one reason, to reproduce on a Ripley's Believe it or Not level, because no other man loved her enough to agree to her absurd request. Remember she cheated on her fiance. Once a cheater, always a cheater. And Kate is a hibital cheater, she just knows how to "be discrete" because she is devious, sneaky snake in the grass, hard/cold hearted shrew and not to mention a cheater. QUIT supporting her and Jon will quit acting out. Give those kids a chance to have a normal life and keep their mom away from TV or any other form of media or movies, in person or voice. Go back to nursing Kate, get an honest job and quit pimping your children. WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE OR HEAR FROM YOU ANYMORE.

If I'm not mistaken, in an interview Kate gave a month or two ago, I thought she told the interviewer when asked about her wedding ring, that she had it turned into a ring with eight tiny diamonds, plus the mother of pearl stone. Now she is saying she was found a ring like that, and wants to buy it when she gets a job. Which is it Kate, I think she is getting her lies mixed up! This woman will stop at nothing to get an interview. We all laughed when she said about some of us like to speak up and others like to remain quiet. Kate has been on the interview circuit for how long now about all of this? SHE is definately not the one that is keeping her month shut and quiet. I just really hope, like millions of other people, that she fades away quickly

Honestly, I don't know what to say. This excuse for a mother has sold out her children to TLC.

God knows and he takes offenses to children very seriously. You reap what you sow. Kate is nothing but a commodity to TLC but because she is so blinded by her narcissism she doesn't see it.

Family first. Where will she run when TLC dumps her? She sacrificed her marriage to a network that is run by Eileen O'Neal, who feels that husbands aren't an important factor in life.

Meanwhile Kate goes shopping at The Grove in Los Angeles while the paparazzi chase after her. She loves the attention, it feeds her over-inflated ego.

Kate should beware because the storm clouds are brewing and Kate will have to answer to her kids. I can just hear it now "Gee mom, why did you sell me out for a t.v. show?"

Kate should be ashamed of herself.

Kate wants to the voice for a cartoon? I suggest an updated version of Rumplestiltskin. She has once again shown how "talented" she is at trying to spin gold out of straw.

Kate was at her evil best on the Ellen show.

Kate continues to justify as hard as she can, and her logic continues to elude me. I believe I heard her explain that they're in the public eye now, and even if their noteriety died down in "a year or two" (note to Kate: I don't think it will take as long as you think), they're always going to stick out because they have twins and sextuplets, so they might as well stay on t.v.? Does she truly not see the difference between taking up a lot of room on the sideline at soccer games and being on national television?

Also laughing at her assertion that she's been staying home making dinners while Jon has been venting his spleen all over the media. In the last few weeks she's been on the Today show, The View, to at least one speaking engagement, and now on Ellen, not to mention the articles in People magazine that appear to have been written by TLC and her PR team. She has stated that her husband "went off the rails" and explained his recent behavior by suggesting that he was "abducted by aliens". How, exactly, does that make her a "high road taker"? And why does no one ever call her on the hypocrisy of going to the media to complain that her soon-to-be-ex is talking to the media? She sits there and lies, spins, and distorts the truth. For example, the 'tups were born at just 30 weeks gestation, and Jon and Kate didn't learn there were six of them until her first ultrasound ... which normally takes place at the earliest around 5-6 weeks gestation. So was she on bedrest before she knew she was pregnant? And why bother gilding that particular lily? Someone needs to tell Kate that when you lie about things that don't matter in an effort to make yourself look better, people are justified in believing that you have no qualms about lying when it DOES matter.

Z,
I thought Kate's wobbly entrance walking in her shiny, brand new, strappy, platform heels, in a mini skirt that barely covered her butt when she sat down was ridiculous! Someone must have thrown on that bulky sweater at the last minute to tone down her outfit. She was a mess, IMO.

Before answering Ellen's first question Kate took a deep breath, swollowed and then dove in with a breathy, full of ummm's, and finger pointing for emphasis, all about ME performance.

She appeared to be pandering for sympathy against an estranged spouse for talking too much, yet there she was doing exactly that on tv! “Certain events took place, certain ones of us speak a lot, others prefer to keep our mouths shut and make dinner.” Yet she said: “My goal would be to keep it as quiet as possible for the kids.” In 1 week's time: She appeared at the Woman's Conference (by all reports she was a flop), had a 1 hour 'you asked, Kate anwered, TLC show', has appeared on Ellen, is taping a 1 hour interview to appear on Monday on TLC and yet she accuses Jon of being the talker and saying SHE prefers this be kept quiet. GIVE ME A BREAK! Do you think she has any idea of how hypocritical she is doing these interviews and saying these things? She's hardly taking the high road. Her intentions were loud and clear about wanting the show with the kids to go on when she said “For the kids and I it’s been a very, very good experience and it’s been taken from us too soon.” Boo hoo.

I thought she gave a brilliant 'performance' when she said: “I laid on bedrest for 30 weeks EEKING out every minute of my pregnancy for my little kids. There is nothing I would do to put them in danger.” (she threw in plenty of finger pointing and great emphasis on certain words), and I'm surprised she didn't pull out a tissue to wipe some fake tears!

I think she came off as unrelatable, stiff and self-promoting and out of touch w/viewers talking again about her 8 diamond and pearl ring (although she supposedly can't pay her bills!). Her PR team obviously prepped her to qualify the ring story by saying “when I have a job again.”

Perhaps she should attend Rabbi Shmuley's program on Sunday with Jon: 'Fame: Blessing or Curse'(A raw and intimate dialoge on the ethical challenges and moral responsibility of celebrity). Both Jon and Kate need to learn this lesson! At least Jon seems to be trying; Kate - not so much!

Is she getting bad advice? Is she blinded by her rose colored glasses? Does she think she's now a member of the LA elite? I think Kate is blinded by her team's promises of fame, by the paparazzi, camera flashes, bodyguards, lunches with accomplished authors, managers -- people she is trying to fit in with, but is failing miserably they have the talent and personalities and she doesn't.

I think her appearance on Ellen further demonstrates how out of her element Kate is. She simply has nothing in common with the people she's surrounding herself with. Kate's talent? Birthing sextuplets and appearing on a reality tv show, verbally and emotionally abusing her husband, ruling her children with an iron hand, and only smiling and engaging when the camera is rolling.

I want to know one thing. WHY is TLC trying sooo hard, spending sooo much money promoting a no name, unrelatable, no talent, mom? WHY? Movie and major tv doesn't invest time and money on no-win prospects like TLC is doing w/her. This feels like a dirty, incestuous relationship between TLC, NBC, and Kate.

BTW, pictures are now out with Kate in heavy, dramatic makeup, wavy hair, brand new trendy clothes, shoes fit for a fashionista and not a mom from PA, (a stylist and makeup person in tow) 'shopping' with Natalie Morales at The Grove - a high end shopping center in LA. Only a narcissist would still be sending these mixed messages. She is hardly a person that mainstream America/viewers can relate to.

I thought her appearance on Ellen showed just how absurd Kate's blinding dreams of fame, money and a career in entertainment are and how big money and incestuous media contacts blind the innocent. Someone please send Kate a copy of the Jewish Values Network event on Sunday. Maybe she can watch it while she's jetting to her next interview.

Man I love this more every day.

1st please please let me address Lisa. Welcome to our blog but sweet poster "The spin stops here"
I have an answer to your question about the ring. If it is not such a big deal then why on 3 interviews that I know of: Today Show, Larry King Live and Ellen is the subject of the ring ever brought up.

See here on Z on TV some very good posters, Holly, Sherry T, marieE, Z, Avis, & Suzi J helped educate me real fast (I am not a quick study) that when these interviews take place there are things called Green rooms where the interviewee is somewhat prepared. Oh, sorry that took so long.

Now, I am sure Kate is aspiring to be in the movies. There is no doubt she will land the leading role as who else "Kate" in the movie, 'For the sake of my Multiples" However, there is a glitch that marieE can back me up on. Kate is in an exclusive contract with TLC. So, there will be no movies in the near future. Unless of course Tlc has invited NBC for interviewing, maybe they will produce the movie?

I am truly out of control.

Finally, I love your blog Z but Princess Diana? Let's put her in the class with Princess Leigha cuz Kate sure is visiting another planet right now.

As always....this is fun! That is why we do it Lisa. If you can't laugh about absurdity you might as well hang it up and call it a day.

Kate has to be a compulsive liar. In addition to her big whoppers (like claiming to not remember what month she asked Jon to move out of the house!), many of Kate's lies are about such meaningless details I feel ridiculous even mentioning them. But when you stack them together, it paints a disturbing picture.

Thank you for those who posted about the 30 weeks of bedrest. That was my first thought as well - the most she could have possibly been on bedrest is about 24-25 weeks, and that is an aggressive calculation (and as someone who's been on long-term bedrest with a pregnancy - the real heroes of that situation are the people around you helping with your children, your work, your house, etc...!!!).

After reading a recap of the interview on Monday, I checked for myself and sure enough...in one of the clips one of the girl tups is shown with a big serving of Doritos. If you recall, when Kate was on The View she told a story about how she never lets the children have junk food and claimed they asked her "what is that triangular orange thing" after seeing a Dorito at school. It sounded like a lie to me at the time, but still seeing the evidence was jarring. Why would anyone make up that story?

There are so many more examples of her fibbing I don't even know where to start.

And, finally, on topic...Ellen's handling of Kate was hilarious, IMO. HILARIOUS! When Ellen told Kate she didn't understand anything she had just said - that Ellen thought she must be talking in code - I wanted to high-five the screen. The whole discussion about the ring - and Ellen's on-point remark about the children getting little rings, too - was certainly telling.

The whole "I'd die for my kids" line has got to go. I've heard other mothers say that and I swear it's always right after they've told them to "shut up" or smacked them or complained about making lunch. I've never heard someone who I consider a good parent make such a statement. It's almost as if they think by making this proclamation it makes up for all the elements of proper parenting that the are skipping. Of course, it's also conveniently difficult to prove, since almost no parent actually has to make that sacrifice.

Sorry for the random fashion of my comments.

Your post brings back memories of the knob from the dresser . . . yikes!!! That was just a knob. . . this was a diary. Those poor kids.

what's all this noise about a ring?! heck most kids i know haven't a clue as to whether or not their parents wear a wedding ring. take you wedding rings that jon gave you, have them remade into another ring and wear it as a right hand ring. kate is the one making big deal about ring. so materialistic.

glad i missed ellen. kate says she's a parent first, yadda, yadda, yadda....who's got the kids while she's all over the country on tv? school is in session, so someone has to be home with those kids making sure homework gets done and projects are completed.

go away kate.

by the way, table for 12, has been on tv before. it's similar to j&k, but several of the children in this show have special needs.

what on earth would kate do if she had a special needs child?!

"Nick Davis: Just read that TLC have been filming a series called Table of 12 since the J&K8+ announced the divorce."

Nick, Table of 12 has aired on TLC for 2 'seasons' that I know of and I think what they're advertising to start next week is their 3rd season. At the time they started they were not a J&K replacement - who knows what will happen now. The family is QUIET different from the Gosselin's in ALL aspects except for the fact that they, too had sextuplets.

While I feel all families w/young children in reality tv are exploiting their children, I guess you'd have to weigh the extent of exploitation, etc when you compare these 2 shows. I'm an advocate for children in all of these cases and don't believe they have any business working in this medium without laws in place to protect them.

jersey -

Thanks for the reminder about Ellen giving the kids bikes. I would love to know the timing of that gift and the move to the new house.

In an episode of J&K+8, Kate lit into Jon about referring to an event as from a prior season. "Jon," Kate yelled, "we do NOT live our life in seasons!" but has anyone noticed that lately she constantly talks about events based on what season they happened?

Ellen was clearly not impressed with Kate and Kate was particularly dull and lifeless. If there was any question of whether Kate could do a talk show on a regular basis, this interview should have cleared that up for good.

I had to laugh when Kate claimed "one's" out there talking to media and she's the one at home making dinner. Was she filming the Ellen show from her dining room? Wonder if she asked Ellen to stay for a meal. Oh well, all kidding aside, what did everyone think when she said that the show was taken from her and the kids to soon? Seems to me that she's trying to lay a guilt trip on not only Jon but also to all of us that call her out on her behavior. Hey, she's doing all of this for her kid's, don't forget. What a loon.

Ok Kate here we go again with this dame ring thing again.Iwish someone would get the dame ring for her so she can put it were the sun don't shine.Ellen ask her if the kids were getting one and she siad sure when they get a job.The last time I check they did have a job on a realilty show called Jon&Kate plus eight.Once again its the same ol bla bla bla.

I swear the folks at Ellen added some canned laughter when she mentioned the kids getting a job.

Ellen was just being polite. That was a loooong seven minutes. If the only thing Kate could come up with to talk about was the p-people following her, the usual worn out blather and a plea for a stupid ring then there's nothing more to say. She can't even sit up straight. Go away now Kate. There is some real talent waiting in the wings hoping for that one break and you're sitting in their seat.

I wish Ellen had asked Kate about the dogs. Ellen is a real animal lover and even has her own line of organic pet food. Sure wish we could have seen Kate squirm while having to explain about taking the pets away from her kids.

jersey, I think Ellen gave the Gosselin kids new bikes on the show that aired September 16, 2007. They moved to the new house in October, 2008. At the time of the bikes they were well into their church speaking careers, selling photos of the family for cash, getting love offerings, as well as doing the TLC show. I remember watching the show and asking why the family, that appeared to be doing quite well, should be getting free bikes.

Kate probably uses the "I would die for my kids" guilt trip at home. What are her kids thinking? Lets see... "my mom says she would die for me so I better film the show today." You know she's putting a guilt trip on those kids.

LISA: I am sorry but why would anyone ask a divorcing woman why she was not wearing her wedding ring? She is getting divorced after all. What an odd question. I would have thought it odd if she DID have a wedding ring on after announcing they were getting divorced and trashing each other for the past 6 months.

It's rumored that Kate saw the ring at Tiffany's and they know she wants it. I wonder how long before 'someone' makes it possible for her to get it (there's no doubt she will!) - even if the story about Tiffany's isn't true. Is there any chance that once she gets it that she will be able to keep it quiet?

More on THE RING.

Kate says she told the kids that THE RING will be the symbol of “me and the kids together forever," and that made them “get excited” about THE RING.

Ummm, Kate, do you remember you told and retold the kids that the big phony Hawaiian wedding renewal was to show them that “mommy & daddy would be together forever”

So, Mommy of the Year, do you really think after seeing how that Hawaiian thing worked out, the kids might give an eyeroll about Mommy’s version of “forever”?

By my calculations, Kate’s version of “forever” is about 6 1/2 months, maybe she should settle for zirconias & moonstone.

I agree with all the posters who tell Kate that the kids don't have to get jobs to buy A RING for themselves, being they already have jobs. But, Kate, don't you realize, that those little ones are also paying for THE RING for you ?

I thought Ellen was great. She feigned knowledge, probably Kate believed she didn't know anything. But, that family was on ELLEN a few years ago and there is no way that Ellen wasn't prepared by her staff as to Kate's present status.

Being Kate has said she isn't ready for another man, maybe that's why she wore the short skirt (hint hint). Watch out, Portia!

Avis anybody do we have the story behind that necklace? It is still around her neck all the time.

Enquiring minds want to know. There is something about that necklace. I do not know what it is but there is a reason.

Man, I thought I was a swindler. Never thought to use my kids though.....

Lisa (10:58)

K8 has been begging and panhandling since day 1 - this is her M.O.

EVERYTHING K8 says is controlled and manipulative - don't think for one second that her mentioning the ring wasn't begging on national television. We have heard her talk about the damn ring on several interviews (you know, when she's taking the high road and keeping things private).

If you believe that such statements about K8 are fabricated, I urge you to look at the MANY articles out there that describe Jon and mostly K8's greed.

Nauseating,,awful self-centered woman!As if any child who has seem their mother push away their aunt and uncle, grandparents,and father would be concerned about her jewelry. Oh, and I forgot-Kate also sent away the dogs. I really wish Ellen had asked her about the dogs-I know Ellen is a dog person.

How can she say she has kept her mouth shut when she is the one who has started everything. Example, she cried on AToday show about Jon taking all money and Jon defended himslef. Get over yourself Kate. You will not be followed by paps forever. You will be gone when the next "big" story comes along. It is so obvious you love the attention. You are such a diva. I am not going to give anymore of my attention to this story and I will enjoy watching the Duggars, a wonderful example of a strong family and Table for 12 who are a loving family with more difficulties than you have ever endured. You and Jon do not deserve our attention. Sure hope your kids don't pay a big price for how you have both behaved. One more thing, Kate get off your stick and start working with Jon for the best interest of the kids and stop playing the media game. If you really have their concern at heart that is what you will do then maybe we will believe the kids are your biggest concern and not your ego.

Z.. there is a comment posted by my name at 1:10.

I didn't write that.

Although it isn't mine, I do like the post, since I DO remember the grilling of the 3 year olds as to which one of them took a knob off a dresser drawer.

And I think the writer of the post was referring to my earlier post about stealing of the diary.

I will check into when I get a chance. Meanwhile, we can let folks know it is not you by posting this. Thanks. Z

Well, the ring again/still. Can all of us please run to all of our stores in our area and buy up every box of cracker jacks that we can find. Maybe, we can find her a ring and send it to her so she shuts up about it.

Or maybe, someone who still has young children, has some old play doh and can make her one.

Well, I have to run to all my stores....I'll be back soon.

Reply to Lisa... (if she is still around)

Lisa, dear, the reason we are mocking Kate for THE RING thing is not because we feel she is "asking" for anyone to buy it for her.

Oh, noooooo..its just that it seems during the years of the show, that Kate mentions something, like oh , you know, new washing machines, new refrigerator, new house, a trip to Hawaii, they magically appear.

So, for past few interviews, she has mentioned "designing" a ring with diamonds and pearl. On Ellen's show, she said she "found" a ring with diamonds and pearl.

Hmmmmm...... follow our drift?

With everyone asking her why not just back off and let your kids be kids, she really just don't get it, it's her greed that is in the way! I really cannot stand this lady I thnk she hates men you see how she treats her husband and her son'sthis whole family needs help,

I'm also sick that TLC wont take this shit off the air as well, what's wrong with them?
She likes to play the poor Victim like I "have to move on" I will not back down please who are you? your a nobody

Z, marieE, Sherry T, Avis, Holly, Suzi J, Alex M all you bloggers out there.

My head did just explode! Please tell me it is/isnt true. I went on that darn Radar and now Jon wants to make things right with his kids!!!There are quotes from him.

What is this whole clan up too?

I expect that, in Kate's mind, she is not talking to the media...she is chatting with her "peers".

The '30 weeks on bedrest' reminds me of Kate Gosselin's biggest whopper.

She claimed that they wanted "just one more" yet they chose not to adopt a baby when they had the chance. Fine with me. To each her own. But isn't it curious that a NURSE managed to be 5 weeks pregnant with septuplets at her first ultrasound 5 WEEKS AFTER BEING HOSPITALIZED WITH HYPERSTIMULATED OVARIES? Putting aside the fact that any fertility doctor or OB/GYN would explain that this condition means you SHOULD NOT HAVE SEX, wouldn't a nurse know that having sex at that time would almost certainly result in multiples? Yet, she claims they "bought one and got five free". Bull*bleep*! She (and maybe Jon both) KNEW that multiples were extremely likely at that time, but they conceived anyway. This makes the rumors from Kate's mom and friends about her idolizing other families with multiples sound very believable.

Kate admitted this on her website, but since I first wrote about this curiousness, it has disappeared from the "our story" portion of her website and the wayback machine. I guess Kate and her PR crew didn't realize that that doesn't mean it's gone forever and sometimes people do make copies...Hi Kate's lawyer and TLC!!!!!!

I find it interesting that Kate calls the show her job, but when it comes to her children, she claims they are just playing, living life, not working.

me @3:38 -
I'm curious why they weren't able to adopt that baby? I know that prospective adoptive parents have to go through a very scrutinizing process to determine whether or not they are suitable. Oh geez. I just answered my own question.
And I believe it was Kate's mother who said she (kate) was fascinated with the McCaughey septuplets and all the freebies they were receiving. You're right, the story is out there somewhere and will surface again. Even Jon's ex-boss recalled Jon leaning back in his chair at work and boasting that his kids were going to make him rich and he'd never have to to work again. The Gosselins were scamming right out of the starting gate. They must think everyone else is as stupid as they are and won't remember any of these things.

Thank you, Z, for continuing to follow this mess. It is interesting to those of us who have followed these childrens' lives for the past 3 plus years. They are/were the show. The parents were just "along for the ride." It's sad that Jon & Kate have been believing their own hype and see themselves as famous! What a joke they appear to be. It's sad that they conduct themselves as self-absorbed, delusional, ungracious grifters on a consistent basis. Shame on them and shame on TLC. These two do not even know that they are the object of ridicule. Seem to be wearing blinders. They need to retract themselves from all public life and get a "real" life for the "sake of the kids."

Chrysee the lonnnggg 7 minutes-girl you missed your calling. too funny.
Have you been nominated Blogger of the day yet?

Isn't it funny that now the Table for 12 is being advertised on tabloid like Radar? The Hayes better run for cover while they can.

I do not know anymore. This whole charade has taken on a life of its own. Meanwhile, back at the ranch are 8 kids. Funny how Kate can't take care of 8 but the nanny can.

marieE: that post about the dresser knob was mine. I don't know how your name got attached to it . If it was anything I did, I apologize.

Ellen was the perfect foil for Kate. It was the best interview I've seen of Kate, mainly because it was so short, but these are the things that made it the best yet:

They had Kate walk out on stage which made her very uncomfortable. She looked wobbly in those shoes, the length (or should I say the shortishness) of her skirt was made so obvious that way, and it looked like someone had thrown an old, stretched out sweater on her to cover what looked like a backless top of some kind. (At least her cleavage wasn't hanging out.)

The tabloids stacked in two huge bundles and tied with string exaggerated the fact that Kate herself is some kind of freak show, and to exaggerate that even more, they showd blown up photos of gossip magazine covers behind her as the backdrop.

Ellen emphasizing she knew nothing about Kate of even if she was divorced yet was such a great way to open the interview, especially when she stated that SHE (Ellen) is in the business. And of course the reference that Kate was speaking in code was hilarious (the audience roared - as did I when I watched it at work). That's going to go down in this Gosselin-fiasco history.

The second prop brought out was the ridiculous wig, it was so cheap and fake looking (much the way Kate is cheap and fake looking.

Kate was very uncomfortable throughout the whole interview. She had her hands in her lap and her fingers were constantly working, picking at her nails, etc.

How clever someone is on Ellen's show to find a way to show was Kate is really like. Kudos to you, whoever you are, and to Ellen. I've always loved her humor, but I don't watch daytime talk shows. But I may change my mind about Ellen's. She came across so "real."

We need to change our divorce laws to protect children and spouses.”

Protect them from what? Hurt?

Our laws as they pertain to divorce are quite adequate. Society can’t and shouldn’t through legislation try to guarantee a child a life without tribulations. And, parents shouldn’t be held hostage and made to endure a bad marriage because of the philosophical ideals of society. What‘s tolerable to one person is the breaking point for another. There are abstracts that can’t be quantified and arbitrated by laws.

We have a unique responsibility to our children. Their physical safety has to be a focus of our collective mindset and laws. But, emotional hurt can’t be avoided, nor should this be the focus of society. Mentally healthy children aren’t created because their lives are devoid of emotional trauma; but, because they’ve been given the tools to deal with the convoluted turns that life can dole out. Personal strength isn’t gained through legislation, its gain through personal knowledge, which is an avenue to understanding. Laws are restraints and should be used appropriately and sparingly against perceived psychological harm. Society can’t go around usurping individual freedoms because someone might get psychologically hurt. The perception of harm can be quite different than actual harm, which is determined by the subjective.

Jon and Kate both have failed at teaching their children valuable lessons through the divorce. Each has allowed their disdain for the other to triumph. Just because Kate has better handlers doesn’t mean she’s less culpable. Saying you’re taking the highroad isn’t actually taking the highroad, it’s a backhanded insult. Just as saying “it’s for the sake of my children” doesn’t make it so. A mother need not express to another mother when she has the best interest of her children at heart, it’s evident. The mantra only becomes necessary when it’s not apparent. The fact that it’s not apparent brings some validity to the concerns. A mother's needs doesn’t always express her child needs, but a mother that puts her child’s needs above her own is universally apparent.

Somewhere mixed up in Kate’s code-talk on Ellen’s show she said something about things being around forever about her kids (tapes of the shows?) and that she would never say anything to hurt her kids. I guess she forgot what she said when doing her mind-numbing “You Ask-Kate Answers" episode when she described Joel as having a beautiful smile and how he’ll probably marry some girl who is charmed by that dazzling smile and then later find out how “clue-less” he is. Someone needs to take her down a notch or two (I wish it would be Natalie Morales – yeah, I know, fat chance.) for saying that. I’m sure Joel didn’t need that following him around for the rest of his life. Kate is such an awful person. How could her admirers still defend her after she said something like that?

Lisa, are you still reading? Defend THAT. That wasn’t fabricated.

marieE: That was my post about the dresser knob. I was responding to your post but put your name in the Name: spot instead of mine. Sorry about that.

I discovered Z's blog only about a month ago, and I've been a daily reader since then. You guys are absolutely the most intelligent bloggers on all things Gosselin, and so I've decided to join in. While I've read many other blogs during the past year of the Gosselin's discontent, I've never made a comment (I'm one of those who people who screams at the tv).
The ring issue is just about the most ridiculous things to date. Maybe it's just me, but when my son was 5 yrs. old, and even 10 - come to think of it, he's just turned 20 - and I don't ever remember having a discussion with him about a piece of jewelry.

Not to change the subject. Did anyone see Wednesday's ABC comedy night? I watched The Middle and Modern Family.

Oh my gosh be gosh guys.

1ST-The Middle teaching your kids how to drive. I think the writers were in my car 2 weeks ago when I freaked out cuz my daughter Nicole almost took a left turn awry. Heheehee

2ND Modern family- The baby getting locked in the car, the doctor visit. Nothing is like being a parent the 1st time around~ they nailed it.

Anyway, we all have been slammed this week with our lives, but those are 2 really funny shows.

good afternoon everyone - I was going to leave my comments, but maria and maya expressed my feelings so equolently that I couldnt possibly add anything to their comments.

I would like to say three cheers to ellen for not buying into the "hype" surrounding the kate phenomena. Kate was all ready to cry a river to ellen and ellen handled it so well.

Let's not all forget in all this hoopla that on the Ellen show Kate stated emphatically that , "I am a mother 1st..."

Please everyone let's change up strategy here...'for the sake of my kids" is being replaced with, "I am a mother 1st"

It might be a crazy blog but it's OUR blog!

marieE no Lisa yet hmmm...

Sherry T hope you had a great day at work.

One more for the road.

Hailey Glassman has done an interview for The Insider. Jon has released a statement to the Insider, " My girlfriend, Hailey Glassman, has paid a significant price to live unde such a media microscope. I am grateful for her emotional support & I regret the pain that my actions have caused her as she has selflessly born the pressure I have endured under the media glare. I am committed to make things right, with Hailey as well as Kate and especially my children. I ask you to please give me the opportunity to prove myself"

1st~ People may not agree with me. It is ok. I am a big girl. The Glassman's only offered a tummy tuck and obviously their friendship to this family. I am sure they did not sign up for any of this.

However, Jon that is about the stupidest, most ridiculously rididusly, um, and longest sentence I have ever read. What in the world ?!?

Fellow bloggers I feel an announcement of Kate Plus 8 coming soon to a theatre near you.

Sherry T u know how much happened while you worked one shift at the hospital?

Good nite Bloggers!

I think (and I may very well be wrong) that the necklace Kate almost always wears, was a gift from her sister, who is a jewelry designer. If that is the case, well, it's just plain ODD! Especially considering how she continually kicks people to the curb once they've stopped being "useful" to Kate. That includes family - so while I did hear that she wears this necklace that her sister made for her, I don't know if its true and I don't know if I believe it. Kate's not one to show homage to another human being if they are not making money for her. HEY - maybe that's it! She's wearing the necklace, and if her sister sells any others, Kate gets her 80% cut! Don't worry though, I'm sure she'll set a "healthy" amount of that aside for her sisters future, just like she did for the kids. They can get access to their JK8 earnings after they retire from the JOBS she wants them to get.

The never ending cycle of Kate, more wash, rinse and then spin spin spin. This isn't passing the smell test with me!! Is she really worth all that money? I don't get it, something bigger than TLC or NBC has to be pushing this woman like this. My guess is she has a "Big Poppa" with real deep pockets and position. How else can you explain this madness??!!

Irene..

Are you referring to the "news" today that Jon G is apologizing all over the place about Hailey having to live the way she does being she is his "girlfriend". Of course, Miss Hailey was crying to The Insider about how she is "emotionally abused" by Jon and how he calls her yelling about his problems.. etc..etc..etc..ad nauseum.

Anyway, now he is once again repentent and wants to confer with Rabbi Shcmuley on how to make amends with Hailey, Kate and his children.

But, Jon better watch out, since we know how everyone he "confides" in, sooner or later is on tv blabbing about the whole thing. And, apparently, the good Rabbi S was once advisor to Michael Jackson, but ditched him when he had the molestation trial. BUT.. not all is lost, since the Rabbi is now hawking a book about his conversations with MJ.

So, Jon.. tell the Rabbi all your deep dark secrets and expect to see them become a best seller in about a year!

What a circus, we really can't make this stuff up!

I wish Kate would stop saying "we can't go back" to the other life they lived.

Geeez, Ms Drama Queen.. you are talking about a TV station.. not the Mafia!

She even said it wouldn't make a difference until a few years if they left the spotlight. That they would still be stalked, etc. She actually laughed about being followed by 18 cars(exaggeration?) of P- People.

She probably has all the tabloid phone numbers on speed dial.

Well, why not try fading away , get your life and your kids' lives in some normal situation. See how quickly you are forgotten.

Afraid?

In response to Me's comment at 3:38 PM.

The Gosselin 10 website used to be available on archive.org's Wayback machine - but it all dissappeared this summer. The messages indicate that a norobots.txt file had been added to the configuration of the website.

Clearly, someone is trying to go back and clean things up.. but I am sure there are more than a few people that copied the history of the Gosselin's site. The updates, requests for donations and photos tell a lot about the family.. they can try to white wash the past.. but hopefully the bloggers will stay on the case and keep the truth out there.

How does one "almost remember the exact moment'?

Just a thought here, but perhaps if Kate didn't make sure her kids are always dressed in matching outfits, the horror of 'sticking out in society' may be lessened for the poor, victimized, single and struggling, aloneness is so alone mother of eight.

Of course, not SCREAMING from across a large room (as we've seen her do on multiple episodes) might also eliminate the problem of 'sticking out in society'.

Losing the 'Tude 'Do and cheap hooker attire might also lighten the load of 'sticking out in society'.

Gosh golly gee. If I didn't know better, I might think 'sticking out in society' (aka getting constant attentionn) might be the sole purpose of Kate Gosselin's existence.

Now I have to add Ellen to my List of Shame. Sad, because I once really liked Ellen.

"We need to change our divorce laws to protect children and spouses."

What does this mean?

Make divorce even more difficult to obtain to reduce the divorce rate? And this would 'protect children and spouses' HOW EXACTLY?

MO is that children living in a home with a blatantly dysfunctional marriage and family dynamic while pretending all is 'normal' and well is more harmful than honestly facing the fact that the marriage did not work out and however tragic this may be, we must find a way to begin again, armed with the lessons we have gleaned from this painful experience.

Legislation cannot protect anyone from the pain of a failed marriage. Harsher, more restrictive law seems a simplistic and futile approach to one of the sadder realities of life.

If a spouse no longer wants you, best to hang on to your dignity and integrity and let the spouse go rather than nail him/her to you.

Hello fellow bloggers!!

I've been very busy today (preparing for a Halloween Party tomorrow & counting thousands of Box Tops & Campbells labels for school) but wanted to check in quickly & let you know that I haven't disappeared :)

I will definitely comment more later (time for dinner) about Kates appearance on Ellen as well as Haileys interview(s) on The Insider..which I am VERY interested to see!!

Hope you all had a GREAT day!!!

I am leaving office after a long day of mostly non-blog action. I am going to try and get back on before I turn in. Just left NBC News another message about us NOT having the conversation yet about Natalie Morales and kate Gosselin and the appearnce of possible conflict. More later for me, too, crew. Thanks. Z

I had read the wayback machine stuff. They started it when Kate was still pregnant. Unreal how they considered Jon's dad's death as a difficult financial time for them. And the lists of things they wanted and the lists of thing they were sent!! I loved how month after month they were begging for a bigger van so all 10 of them could go out together. People were actually sending them Target gift cards in the mail!!! Also, Rabbi Smuley had a reality show himself a few years ago. He was also trying to get Michael Jackson on at the time. Now he wrote a book on Jackson and wants to capitalize on the new MJ movie. He is a bs artist. Just like Dr. Drew disgracing their medical and religious professions just for reality TV dollars.Check "Gosselin Family Fansite" and you will see Kate's necklace being advertised on the right hand side. Is that her sister's company? If so then we know she does interact with family.

Does it really count as an "affair" if your spouse has asked for a divorce and made you move into the garage apartment?

I'm no fan of Jon and agree with Z's assessment that he's a "loser's loser." Has he shown gross indescretion? Absolutely! His his taste in women questionable? You betcha! Did he engage in a marriage-ruining affair? Of course not! Kate has never denied Jon's claims that she initiated the divorce and that he moved out long before the tabloids got wind of the impending break-up.

I guess for Kate's fans this distorted version of reality is easier to justify, but it's just not the truth. And for the love of all things holy, are we all not sick to death of not being told the truth?!!??

I can't wait for the interview when Kate comes to the realization that she's only "famous" for popping out 8 kids like a human Pez dispenser and then making a pompous ass of herself to any media outlet willing to listen.

Good to hear from you Holly, you are one of the special ones that makes this a great group. Glad you have not disappeared. I was about to send Irene out after you.

I worked today, so I want to comment more about Ellen and Kate and I will check out the Hailey interview. Irene keeps me up-to-date on the latest on FB. I remember those box tops we put them in a little mailbox at our local mall and they gave money to the schools.

Wow this is off the post subject huh. :)

Did you ever hear from NBC?
is the answer something you cannot share with the public?

Hi Maura, No, I was chasing other stories for the Sun today, and the last thing I did before I left is call NBC back and press them for a Friday conversation. If they don't talk tomorrow, they are definitely ducking me. But the person I am dealing with NBC News has always been upfront, so I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt -- until tomorrow. Stay tuned. Thanks. Z

Z- I've actually been refreshing the cite to see what the deal with NBC is so keep on that. For me this has actually been the story, TLC's manipulation of the "news" media.

There's actually a lot of interesting looks at modern media involving this show. Someone could write a book just using this show as an example of child labor laws and reality tv, a look at the manipulation of mass media by a production company, etc, etc.

Keep up the good work Z.

Re the old Gosselin website:

Preesi (google "preesi" and you'll get the site "My Case Against Kate Gosselin") has stated that he has the entire old Gosselin website archived. I've yet to see him put it up, but from the rest of his postings, I'm inclined to believe he's got the goods, as I'm sure other people do also.

And it will come out at some point. Because, gush darn it, if the Gosselins were just good, Christian folk with NOTHING TO HIDE, and NO MOTIVE TO MAKE MONEY/GET FREEBIES off the use of their kids, well the website would still be available, wouldn't it?

z,
Someone asked why you put so many blogs about Kate$Jon

Question; Are you studying them as a TV cultural phenomenon
OR
the most important part....Are you studying us, the bloggers, and we are a part of an American sociological case study. If so, you must be on the other side of the computer saying, "when the h*ll are these people going to say... no more Kate$Jon" You put up a new question and there we are BBF unit...LOL

Hi Avis, I think J&K is fascinjating sociology, as I have said. TV holds them up as ideal family, and it is a lie. And bloggers and commenters help expose them as phony. That's a great story about the inner workings of reality TV. But as for studying the commenters, definitely not. To me, that would be dishonest. First, I would have to tell folks. Then lay out what I am trying to do. Then, get their written consent. You guys are keeping me sane right now, and the commenters have educated me about Jon&Kate. Just a few months ago, I was a lot less critical of this show. The commenters here opened my eyes. That's why I have so much for theese comments. Unfortunately, I am wiped oiut, and have to call it a night. Back at it early in a.m. Thanks. Z

Let me see... When Kate says "This is my job", "This is my paycheck", "This is what I do". What the hell does she do? I know she appears on talk shows and repeats her self in various annoying ways. I know that she really did not write thos books, but is taking credit for it anyway. Sooooooo, what does she do?!

She also said, "I would never put them (the kids) in a situation that was dangerous or unsafe for them". I watched some of the ridiculous appearance yesterday and changed the channel right away. I really do like Ellen, but I believe Kate wasted Ellen's valuable time with her nonsense. I doubt we'll see her on Ellen again.

How in the world does this whack job not think that by her children being filmed for the world to see is not dangerous. There have been several movie stars that were stalked. Sadly, there were a couple of them that were even killed by their stalkers. Also, what about the pedophiles out there who are probably getting off watching her children use the restroom on previous episodes.

By Kate believing that her children won't be in any harm is ignorant. Kate Gosselin is not a star in my eyes. She is an insult to the most talented people in the entertainment industry. She stated, "Well I think certain events UM take place that UM makes us sitting ducks, that makes us easy targets UM certain ones of us UM speak a lot. Others of us prefer to keep our mouths shut and UM make dinner for example". HUH??? Poor Ellen's head must have been spinning. This did not sound like an answer to Ellen's question. It sounded like Kate was dancing. Can we all say "idiot". Who is this crackhead trying to fool? She should have said, "Well, Ellen UM, I UM think it is because I exploited my children on national television, UM I degraded my husband on national television, UM I wore a bikini to show off my tummy tuck and boob job, and UM I disowned my family UM, UM and you know that the "P" people can't get enough of me".

I know that she didn't mean that Jon was actually the one who prefers to keep his mouth shut and make dinner. She truly believes that she is keeping her mouth shut and is at home making dinner. I see her on television opening her snout much more than Jon. Jon is trying to change for the better and I truly believe that he loves his children whether they bring him money or not. Kate is so far into herself that she doesn't see the harm she is causing her children. Message to Kate: Your children won't be children forever. You may have control of them now, but just wait till they can speak for themselves. You'll end up one very lonely old hag.

Here is an interesting link I found. I usually don't read these.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/1020909_jon_gosselin_following_celeb_rabbi

It explains a little at the bottom that TLC hired NBC to do the Kate interview with Morales. That is an interesting twist. I hope NBC gets back with you Z.

One question:

How can Kate claim that she keeps her mouth shut when she was on a national talk show to promote her one-hour, tell all, prime time interview?

Good luck on getting to talk with NBC, Z. My computer is going to the computer doctor so I won't have it for a couple of days. IF NBC calls, I'll miss what they have to say until it's old news, I guess. :( Not sure what I'll do with myself without my computer. Maybe I'll try to hook up my old one.

Keep up the good work Z, and all you great bloggers out there. See ya.

Memo to Aly's computer: Get well fast. We need Aly in the front lines on our good fight to deconstruct the lies of a certain reality TV show. Hey Aly, maybe the public library has a computer you can go online with. Tell them Z on TV needs you. Z

Gooooddddd Morrrrnnninggg BLLLGOOGGGERSSS!!!

Hey all.

Z about the NBC response. I sure hope it isn't because of all of us BBF's here in blog land. I hope they at least issue a statement or something. Enquiring minds want to know.

I get to go to work yesterday & today. Kate gets to go shopping before or during an interview with Morales. Something is wrong with this picture.

As we speak Good Morning America has a picture of Octomom Nayda Suleman dressed up as a nun for Halloween. She has 2 of the babies in her arms. I guess Jon Gosselin will be the Priest.

Have a great day ya'll I have more to say...of course! ;-)

You know, Kate keeps saying "I would die for my kids"

Wait about 10 years, Kate, and one of those kids might make that statement come true.

Per Kate's necklace.

I never wondered where/ who she got that from, but now you put it in my head. haha.

I checked the fansite as was posted above.

It DOES say the "kate necklace" is from the company, but it says the necklace she wore in "Kate's wardrobe makeover" I'm not sure that is the same necklace, since the site shows mostly mommy/kids necklaces.

kate's necklace looks like a diamond solitaire and the website does not carry such items. Its a company that also does home parties, based in FL.

Somehow I doubt Ms Kate would wear a pic of her children day in and day out.

Are we sure its her sister's company? I know nothing about any of her siblings other than brother Kevin.

My biggest question is to myself: Why do I care? hahah

I could only stomach the first three minutes. She is certifiably insane. This woman must have a liquid narcissism IV drip attached to her at all times for her to constantly be in this rare form.

I think I'm going to throw up. I"m home sick today and surfed thru Regis & Kelly and they are dressed as J&K..... please make ALL OF THIS STOP.

Are you flipping kidding me? I'll bet the kids don't even notice her ring. I mean heck - every other week an entire PARENT goes missing, much less a stupid ring - and dad has to live in the GARAGE when he does come home. Somehow I imagine that a missing ring is NOT on the radar. What an idiot woman.

I know it's not a good thing to laugh at people - but she makes it so easy. It's like she's a mental patient. "I can't afford to feed my kids - we have 15 houses. I throw away stuff with gum on it. My 3 year olds want new kitchen cabinets. I had to choose between dogs and kids. My 5 year olds told me to have diamonds." - She talks in a word salad. Can't you picture her in a hosptial gown and high heels muttering this stuff to herself in a mirror?

And the funniest thing is when she talks about getting married again.
I hope I get a "Save the Date". It's going to be real easy for her to find a man willing to jump on that train! 8 angry kids - a harpy, emasculating wife who had a halloween costume made in her likeness. Yeah... there's a line of gents waiting to get chained to that.
I'm laughing out loud in my office.
We have a civic duty to encourage that nitwit to make it worse. Send her letters that say "Your kids told me they want you to buy Michael Jackson's sparkle glove." Maybe she'll believe it and do it!

OK, I've finally watched the Ellen segment as well as the Hailey Interview on The Insider. I'm not sure what to say about Haileys interview; personally, I have nothing against her. Many, MANY people date before their divorce is final; especially once it's clear that reconciliation isn't in the cards. I don't think we'll ever know the "true" date that Kate went to Jon and told him their marriage was over; so I think it's unfair for people to call Hailey a homewrecker, etc. That being said, something about her interview was....off. There were tears welling in her eyes, but none spilling, yet she kept dabbing. She repeated the same things over & over & avoided some questions. I'm not quite sure what the point of this whole thing was; but that is often the case with me when it comes to all things Gosselin :)

As for Kates segment on Ellen. I admire Ellen & respect her highly so this isn't a hit against her, but why do SO many journalists, interviewers and the like handle Kate with kid gloves?? When Kate says "I take the high road and try to stay out of the media while others are constantly giving interviews"; why does NO ONE say "Uhhh, aren't you on TV/giving an interview right now?? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?" I realize Kates standard answer is "It's my job", but if that's the case, then what is what Jon is doing called? Obviously we haven't seen the Natalie Morales interview yet, but I highly doubt she is going to ask one question that I want asked which is "Kate, you claimed a few weeks ago that you only had $1,000 in the bank, can you tell me why part of this interview is being done while you're shopping in the VERY swanky area of The Groves in Los Angeles?" I mean, come ON.

I often wonder if the media doesn't hold Kates feet to the fire because they are afraid of being painted as hateful or mean to a "supermom of 8 just doin' the best she can". If that's the case, why did nearly every media outlet put the screws to Octomom? Did Nadya Suleman & Kate Gosselin essentially not do the same thing, with Kate doing it first? They both had fertility treatments knowing the outcome of high multiples, they both did the previous knowing they didn't have the income to support those children, they both shopped reality shows starring their children to be the source of their income, they are both media ho's whose names are only "famous" because they had litters of children...yet Nadya has taken more heat than someone trying to hit a pitch thrown from Pedro Martinez and Kate is a saint. Even staunch Kate supporters are nasty towards Octomom, when in my eyes, Kate was the original Octomom.

Yet again, it continues to boggle my mind.

Hey all....
This Friday has been a day from.........won't meet the standard for this blog.

Ya'll we all run around like chickens with our heads cut off. Trying to be everywhere at one time for our kids, our jobs, our blog and Kate what does she get. A day at the spa while her staff (gardener, nanny and she named someone else but I cannot remember) has to keep up like us.

She is a mom 1st. I am stuck on that statement please pardon me.

Me again!!!

Not sure why, but I just watched the Ellen segment again & noticed something interesting. When Ellen asked how long the show has been on, Kate said 5 seasons. People who don't know a lot about television & how seasons work may assume that 5 seasons, means 5 years & I think Kate likes it that way. By saying the show has been on for 5 seasons, it detracts from the fact that the show has ONLY been on since 2007 and that most of the J & K + 8 seasons have consisted of 35 or more episodes. I think Kate deliberately chooses to say 5 seasons as opposed to 2 1/2 years so the amount of episodes don't seem like work for the kids or that they are being overworked, when of course, they are. Am I making sense here or have I had too much coffee this morning? LOL :)

Since Ellen said she didn't know much about J & K + 8, I would have liked to have seen her ask "OK, 5 seasons; how many episodes were in each season and what year did the show start". These are the questions that journalists, the media need to be asking instead of the same boring questions that Kate holds the script for.

It's particularly interesting that she uses the word season(s) so much when she ripped Jons head off for doing the same on one of their shows last year.

Bottom Line: Jon and Kate Gosselin have been exploiting their children because they couldn't afford to take care of them. If they couldn't afford to take care of them, they shouldn't have had them.

Jon is now saying enough is enough. Kate is addicted to the lifestyle and says she needs the show to continue to support her children.

Kate, get a job of your own and let your children be children and live a normal life.

Let me get this straight. Are we to understand (and believe?) that a mere...what...2 weeks or so ago, this woman booked herself on national TV to report that her husband had stolen money from herself and the children, leaving her with only $1000 to pay her bills, keep a roof over their heads, and feed the kids? And now she is being interviewed by a supposedly mainstream news network representative, in part, on a shopping spree in high end Los Angeles stores? This is all very strange. Z...I have to think you're onto something much bigger than Kate Gosselin and her escapades. What IS the connection between TLC, NBC, ABC (The View), etc., etc.?? How incestuous is all of this "news" industry, really? And if these incestuous relationships between media outlets is uncovered and reported on, what are the implications? Honestly, I can think of no reason whatsoever that this woman is still being given airtime. There has to be more to all of this than meets the eye. How I would love to have you crack the story open! Could change the way we view, understand, and subscribe to network news altogether. I think this is the REAL story to go after...

ALY: Good luck with the computer. Hurry back. Our library has computers you could check that out. Luckly I live with a computer specialist. Wish we could help. If you want to send it to Ohio.

Holly, I was surprised by Ellen too. She is usually not so soft, but she tries to tie it in with humor. Some people were saying that she really did not know much about Kate Gosselin. She seemed like she did not know what to aask Kate. Sure didn't want to hear more about the ring. Maybe a question aabout the money situation would have been better.

Laurie,

It might all have to do with rating really. As long as TLC, NBC or whatever channel is able to pull in ratings with the Kate Gosselin story they will be there. That is sad isn't it. Then the advertisers make a lot of money too. Its a job really. Too bad we are all promoting this family by watching these interviews.

"There has to be more to all of this than meets the eye. How I would love to have you crack the story open! Could change the way we view, understand, and subscribe to network news altogether. I think this is the REAL story to go after..."

I agree that this is the REAL story-
I will keep checking back as I really want to know the deal between NBC and TLC.

If it is true that TLC hired NBC for the interview, then we can expect zero insightful questions. Natalie took Kate shopping so there must have been a love fest going on in the interview. If given hard questions, Kate would be crying and not going out with the interviewer. I guess TLC has to pay for someone to admire Kate since the shine is off their star.

Oh, did you see the pictures when she was shopping? Kate was smiling at the "p" people. She wants the attention in Hollywood. She realizes it will help her career. Note, no mention of the project with Paula Dean. She is off to bigger and better projects. It reminds me of the comedy bit with Carol Burrnet
and the aging movie star asking for her close-up.

Avis,

I am not sure about TLC hiring NBC. The link I found was a tabloid FoxPhily or something. I try not to read the tabloids, just a personal thing. This whole Jon and Kate thing is corrupting me. Maybe Z wil be able to confirm for us. Kate is doing more interviews than the President.

Maybe they're in talks to give her her own Greedy Gosselin Network. ;)

Kathleen,

That link from yesterday at 10:31 a.m. was good. Thanks for that. It has a lot of good information. Unbelieveable that Mr. Ally was excluded from the discussion because they would not let him into the country. He is a Canadian citizen.

Jon is being counseled by Rabbi Shmuley. He had a good program on TV where he counseled families, I used to like it. I am not sure it is on anymore.

Sorry Z, some of this is off the post.

Aly if you live by south MS please come on over. It just wont be the same without you.

Stop by a friends heck have them join in!!!!!!!

Melissa Regis and Kelly dressed as Jon & Kate. I bet they had to since Kelly has that new Tlc show~~~~~

I have an idea? Why doesn't Jon & Kate dress up as parents for Halloween?

Lordie bee!!!!!

p.s. I am glancing through all the comments I have to get a few hundred things done. I have some more responses. Promise I will catch up this weekend. I know marieE what do I look like Kate G. have to have my hand in all this. It is just too much fun :-) :-)

I agree with several of the above posters - the REAL STORY here is the media spin. Since NBC was hired by TLC, anything we see will be heavily filtered by TLC to show Kate in a good light. Expect more lies, BS and more spin. The real question is WHY isn't someone from mainstream media exposing this scam for what it really is? That would be the ultimate blockbuster story.

Mark my word - I bet "Kate Plus 8" will continue production for another few seasons.

Think about it. Kate and Jon have zero stream of steady income without the show. Now Jon wants to reconcile. No one will hire Jon and he'll revoke the cease and desist order to allow the kids to be filmed.

Then TLC will do a show on Jon and Kate's reconcilitaion and "the show will go on" unfortunately.

It's all about money. Jon and Kate are nothing without their kids. They don't generate enough interest on their own.

I hate to say it but I don't think we've seen the last of "Kate Plus 8".

I wonder if these two imbeciles know how absurd they look flying out to LA both vying for a place in the spotlight? Do they really think they are in such great demand that Hollywood peeps are tripping over each other to get to them? Right now I think they are poison to the touch. If they think they are such great talents why don't they both go home and at least ACT like caring parents? Shoo, go away....both of ya.

"Real Stars" and "Real Celebrities" wouldn't let this go on and thier managers wouldn't allow it. These two definiately have major deep issues, and these poor kids are going to suffer greatly. I know the media jumped on the ban wagon, but if they stop people will move on to something else. I admit it agravates me to no end. She is a narcassits to the extreme. She has scripted answers in her own head to everything she is asked. And to be in movies, please thats ridiculous. I agree with the fact, kids dont care about rings she mad it a big deal. I dont know how she lives with herself begging for freebies constantly but i do believe her gig is up, the real story will come when all this goes away and she won't know how to live and then her kids turn on her when they are teens.

Ellen,
You said: "WHY isn't someone from mainstream media exposing this scam for what it really is?"

I've thought about the same thing, but concluded that for an interviewer to ask REAL questions of J&K and be prepared for intelligent follow-up they need to know the story, in and out with all of the lies and half truths they've been spouting for years to be able to ask intelligent follow-ups. Who in the media has had the time to follow this seemingly unimportant reality tv duo and their story like we bloggers have? If Kate gave one of her evasive, rehearsed answers would they know enough about the truth to expose her?

I've wondered who, if anyone, could do a thorough interview with J&K and the only person I think is qualified is Z. (not that they'd accept) but,

Z, How about it?

Hmmm. I appreciate the kind words. But I don't think TLC will be letting me get anywhere near Kate. Thanks. Z

bbsak we would love for Z to get an interview with Jon or Kate but we cannot even get Kate's lawyer Mr. Mark to email or call the Baltimore Sun back.

I think we are SOL but no need to fear the investigative blogging team is here & combined with Z I doubt there is anything Jon & Kate could add....we do get down to the truth of the matter. Most of us are parents, husbands, and wives. Kate & Tlc arent gonna fool this blog.

Please everyone stay with us. This is the 1st rated blog on all thing Gosselin!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi, Irene: If I did get an interview with the Gosselins, it would be time to start worrying about how much you can trust me. TLC is not sharing Kate with anyone but the safe and tame. And Jon wants to be paid for his interviews, which, of course, a paper like the Sun does not do ever. Thanks. Z

Irene,

Just read your post. Why don't Jon and Kate dress up as parent's for Halloween? That would give Halloween a whole new meaning wouldn't it. I will be laughing for quite a while. You are incredibly funny. Honestly you could write for Jay Leno, might want to check into that.

Nice line about pretending to be parents for a night. Thanks. Z

Even if jon and kate reconcile (GAG), the show would not be a success as the kids have outgrown 'cute'. they just copy each other when they do talk (baby talk). 3 of the 6 appear to be about 3 yrs old and the other three almost ready for pre-school (NOT even Jr. Kingergarten-who came up with that idiotic name?). We don't need to see them getting haircuts, going to doctor/dentist any more BUT it's also SAD to watch these 8 kids get YET ANOTHER FREE TRIP SOMEWHERE SPECIAL. Jon and Kate can afford to pay for these trips themselves and if TLC has TOO MUCH $$$, they should start giving REAL families the FREEBIES. There are some kids that have NEVER gone on a REAL vacation. Gosselins' BE GONE!!!!!!

Z, yes oh yes I think Kate is shamelessly hinting for a stupid ring. You'd think she'd be embarrassed but no... This is the woman who rejected the 6 cribs donated by her father's congregation because they didn't match, who resold the kids' clothes she received for free at consignment shops, who advertises everything from crooked houses to Hasbro family game night on her stupid show. And I agree with a previous poster... NO ONE gives a flip if she wears her cheap ugly wedding ring or if she wants a new ring to replace it. And no one believes that her kids give a flip either. Kate should think bigger: how about whining about how the Scooby Doo van needs a new transmission? How the kids would love a new 60" plasma tv? How she and her children dream of her someday wearing expensive high heels...Jimmy Choo are you listening? Kate, how about buying yourself the dumb ring? Oh and by the way, mother of pearl is the lining if a shell. Similar to asking for a piece of ceramic tile surrounded by diamonds.

OH Will this woman just give us all a break about this wedding ring. I lost my wedding ring in a restaurant 12 years ago and none of my kids ever noticed. My wife did but that's a different story. What child notices things like that, especially children under 10 years old? These kids only notice when Mom and Dad are out of town. Kate acts like her wedding ring is like the lighthouse at Cape Hatteras and it is everyones guiding light. She's not the only mother of 8 kids and I can pretty much guarantee that none of those kids know which ring she's wearing, which pair of heels she's sporting or which set of lies she's spinning. They just know that they aren't getting as many freebies lately. Give me a break.

Barb good one about the "ceramic shell"

Lordie Bee all I can say is I was told very young TO Be careful what I asked for. Kate is all about Kate & material possessions. She is missing the forest for the shopping malls!!!!

Please come back tonight. Tlc will air Kate: Her story
our beloved David Z will watch so we all can have a life!!

I'm surprised that no one has yet commented on Kate complaining about the 18 cars that follow her. Excuse me Kate? Complaining to ELLEN about paparazzi? Complaining to someone who has actually been hounded for coming out of the closet and then going through a high profile break - up? What is wrong with you Kate? Do you know who you are talking to when you say these things?

Well, Ellen's response was priceless: a look at the camera and then she said " I can't imagine what that's like." Because you see Kate, Ellen has been there. And being the personable, entertaining, and funny person that she is, Ellen understands that her talk show is lighthearted and fun, not just a platform for crocodile tears and me me me.

Z, doesn't she have people grooming her for these appearances? If so, how does she constantly manage to f up every appearance? Why are her handlers letting her go on and on about her stupid ring? It makes her look so bad!

I'm sorry for rambling, I've watched the show from the beginning and this is the first time I've posted anything anywhere.

Did anyone notice the sweater does not go with that outfit. I think her handles saw what she thought she would wear and made her put on someone elses sweater to cover up. Her skirt is too tight and is nearly up to her woo, woo, the bloose is too tight. Too much skin for a mother of 8.

I remember when I was about the age of the twins. Kids were morified if there parents didn't dress and act like other parents at their school. Even Anderson Cooper told stories how embarassed he was regarding how his mother looked and acted going to his school and around his friends. I think his mother is Gloria Vander Built.