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October 13, 2009

'Jon & Kate' - Mom's narcissism devours a big day

What did you make of the promo Monday night near the end of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" in which the announcer's voice says, "With only a limited number of episodes remaining, Jon and Kate spend quality time with those who matter"?

Is that a confirmation of my "the end is near" prediction for the series, or acknowledgment that Jon has shut down production for good? Or, are they maybe just trying to hype the gate for next week's episode by letting us know we are near the end of a season? Only by my count, we should be nowhere near the end of the season yet.

Wouldn't it be nice if just once TLC could be straight up about this show rather than vague and duplicitous in keeping all its options open to go in whatever direction the wind blows with these two selfish, immature foolish people?

Meanwhile, wasn't Monday night just more confirmation that this series can no longer be saved from the narcissist in its midst and needs to end?

The narrative of the first day of school for the six kids should have made for a knockout episode. School is the biggest of big deals. It's the only thing that might save these kids from their crazed parents.

But instead of viewers witnessing a rite of passage for the kids, once again, Kate sucked all the air out of the McMansion -- and made it all about her.

Here is where I started gagging, when Kate rather than staying focused on the kids, talked about the legions of her followers: "Everywhere I go...I have seen major, major support.... [They say,] 'We're behind you, Kate. You're doing the right thing, Kate. Don't give up.' ...I feel very supported. Thank you for that."

I wonder do the little people line up at the airports and throw flowers in her path as they shout their humble fan encouragements -- or do they actually kneel down and bow as she passes on the way to her next "speaking engagement or public appearance."

And how about the video of the kids getting on the busses. Kate stressed how there is a "rule" about no filming at the bus stops, like she actually knows what she is doing and has laid down safe parameters. And then, we see video of the kids at the bus stop.

A caption under the video says: "Actual paparazzi video." Is that supposed to be funny? It's not, if you think the rule of no-video connected with school matters. And what kind of a rule is it if the producers who work for TLC buy video from others of the kids doing stuff they can't film? School matters, and this is one more example of contradictions, confusion and compromises by Kate, the production company and TLC that can hurt the kids.

The last of the "limited number of episodes" can't come soon enough for me.

 

 

 

 

Posted by David Zurawik at 7:49 AM | | Comments (100)
        

Comments

Z,

Oh, I heard that!! I think you are right. I was glad to see Jon show up for the first day of school for his kids. Is he growing up just a little??? It sounded as if Kate did not know he was coming. I will have more comments later, I am sure.

I was sad for Kate. I cried when my kids went off to school. But they adjusted better than I did.

Here Here!! Best article I have read to date! Keep up the honest assessment!

I think this is why Kate can't see the flowers for the trees. She is only concerned with how she is perceived and she is enamored by the fact that she has "followers". She needs to start paying attention to her children.

While the announcer might have said that there are only a limited number of episodes left...what was left unsaid were the words "of Jon & Kate +8" because as TLC has already announced it's going to become Kate + 8. I don't for a minute believe that this is over. As long as Kate has a breath in her body she is going to fight to keep those kids on TV. She will not go quietly and without a fight. TLC may look like they're pulling out but they are not. This is their moneymaker and TLC is not about to give up just yet.

Yes, the name change was fiurst reported on this blog some two weeks ago. In fact, it was predicted here before it was announced by TLC. I do not believe the announcment was referring to that. I agree Kate is not going to give up. But if the kids can't be filmed that's the end of any kind of family show, no? Z

I broke down I watched last night.

I had some extra time this weekend. I went to the archives of People Mag and found an article date 10/13/2008. I want to bring out a few points from it

Kate said, "Big news: We love eachother & our marriage is not about to crumble"

Kate said, " I don't really like to be in the spotlight"

Kate said, They have dreams of adopting a single baby maybe from Korea. "We still want to know what "one" is like."

Jon finally got a word in "the 6 are used to being filmed 3 to 4 days a week fro several hours at a time," Jon says "Its a natural norm"

TLC & Kate the show is over! This stopped being about the 8 beautiful kids a long time ago. Lying and distorting reality to make it fit some storybook tale is not working. You did this last October. Where did it get you then? I would have to say about 2 million viewers less in the long run.

The truth always comes out in the wash. I would say the spin cycle is about up. Let's put this show to rest and give the kids one less thing to be stressed about. I wish Jon and Kate the best in their future endeavours. Message to both you parents from me is, "If you do not get the parenting right, iron out issues and really be there for your kids...what is doing all this really gonna matter." I cried last night when they showed pictures inside that home. It looks like a dungeon. It feels cold and empty. I completely understand desiring to give your children a spacious home. I have a family total of 9 we live in a 3 bedroom apartment 1100 square feet. I wouldn't trade houses with you for a second, if it meant living a lie just for the sake of a few dollars, invasion of privacy, and a heavily mortgaged house.


Great review, as usual. You're right. First day of school is a biggie and it ended up being all about Kate. Did you catch that she made lunches for the little kids and didn't even know that they don't need a packed lunch at school? That wasn't funny: it was sad that she didn't even take the time to know the kids' schedules. If this is indeed the last season and Kate + 8 is DOA, I can't imagine why TLC pursues a relationship with this woman. What talent does she have? As far as I can see, her image has been manufactured. Please publish the ratings for last night's show when you have them and any info if the advertisers are pulling out. Looks like last night was just a commercial for Stride Rite. Thanks.

Yes, check back and I will have the ratings. Z

I didn't watch and I'm happy to hear the annoucement (however vague!) that the show is coming to an end.

At the end of the day TLC is a profit-generating enterprise and Kate's abilities as a solo "moneymaker" are questionable at best.

I'm sure TLC execs and other personnel have coddled Kate through the successful years and in Kate's narcissim view she might think she has the upper hand. But it is and always was a business relationshipwas and those successful years are about over. Even Eileen O'Neal must have gotten that memo.

I'm thinking Eileen O'Neill is going to be focusing on her own career. W

You are so right about profits. As soon as TLC decides there is no more money to be made off Kate, she's a goner. They probably will try some kind of new show for her, but it will be on a very short rope. If it does not show immediate results, it will be the end of Kate. Z

Now I wonder if TLC knew in advance that Jon was coming to see the kids off on their first day. Kate acted like she was totally unware that he would be there. I thought it was a sign that Jon might actually care about the kids, but if they knew in advance then I guess it would be more for publicity. Kind of another contraindication since Jon said he was not going to be part of the filming or let his kids be filmed. The more I think about this the more it always seems so insincere. And we can't tell where TLC is coming from or who to believe.

Hi
I always enjoy your recaps. It's amazing to me that other main-stream media just can't seem to understand that these two folks are horrible excuses for parents. All they have done since these poor kids have been in this world is to sell their souls for the "Benjamins".

It truly can't come quick enough for me. I quit watching this charade over a year ago. I can't for the life of me understand how the "masses" seem to think that Kate is TLC's sweetheart. She is nothing but a child pimper. Too lazy to work for a living as is Jon. It's time they earn their own paychecks instead of the kids paying the mortgages for them.

No more John and Kate Plus Eight... so TLC makes it Kate Plus Eight... but John stops that and it becomes.... *drumroll* "KATE & KATE Plus KATE" which has been her dream all along.

Kate can tour the country and do TV playing the martyred wife. Nancy Grace will eat it up. She has a big career ahead of her, even without the kids. Especially without the kids because now she can stop pretending it's anything else than all about her.z

Good point about the ego, Michael. But the ratings for the show the last two months, say viewers have tuned her out in a monumental way. Thanks. Z

I think all this was filmed before the fallout. (Jon not allowing kids to be filmed) The tabloidsa are about a month ahead of the show.

Kate only hears what she wants to hear. I am interested where she feels so many are behind her versus how many are really not. This family draws ratings for other shows so of course people water down what they want because they want her on their show. Look at The View. Look at their Hot Topics section and their opinions before she cohosted and after.

I think however it turns out it will be hard on Kate. She sits on the Throne so full of herself. I wonder what it will be like when the cameras go away, the extra help, no spouse to push around, hard decisions have to be made.

TLC in my opinion did it their way, and look what they have to show for it now. The cable channel will go on, there are shows popping up doing well like Cake Boss, BrowardCounty, &
the Duggars. The Gosselin family however has much more to overcome then coming back to the real world. And, from what I have seen so far of the 'High Road" & "For the sake of my kids" I am not impressed in the least. Maybe others think this is all wonderful and look at this strong woman and her philandering husband. I have been a single mom. I had a front seat at that rodeo. Only by the grace of God and because I was raised to "Do right even when no one else does" were my children able to cope and adjust to divorce. I am here to emphatically state, I could not have accomplished any of it without my exspouse meeting me in the same ring. And, that is the glamourized version.
I wish her luck because with the high faluating attitude and smurk she has on her face all the time she is in for a long haul. She may get the money, the house and some other show, but she will never get back what is most important and that is her self respect. And, this goes for Jon too! I do not fault them for getting caught up in the moment. I fault both of them for not seizing the moment and really meaning the words, "Our family comes 1st"

Hi Irene, Yes, of course, it was filmed before Jon's announcement last week. Sure, it could not have otherwise. Thanks. Z

See how naive I am I actually thought that Jon was going back on his committment no to have the kids on the show. He showed up to see the kids off on their first day of school. I don't read the tabloids. Thanks Irene for pointing that out that it was filmed in advance. TLC is doing a good job on me.

This computer randomly remembers my information. Anyway, I have zero more time, have to run.

It never fails to amaze me how often what Kate says on air directly contradicts the image she and her handlers are so busy trying to maintain. In last night's show alone, I had to wonder what sort of present, hands-on mom doesn't know that her kids don't need a lunch for school, or hasn't -- by her own admission -- been into her daughters' bedroom in months. She is about as detached a parent as I've ever seen -- certainly not inspiring, or a role model, no matter what she claims people are shouting at her as she wafts by. I think a show starring Ms. Gosselin would last no longer than a New York minute.

Her not having been in the room of the two older girls for months seemed weird to me, too. I wonder what others think. Thanks. Z

Don't you think the 'few' shows left comment refers to the fact that they hadn't filmed the whole season prior to the start of it and now can't film any more? And on the show the other night, how many mothers put their kids complete outfits down on the foyer table the night before school starts rather than having them in the bedroom where the kids should get ready? Please, please, please let this mess be done!!!! It is horrible to watch this self-absorbed witch turn EVERYTHING around to HER in every instance. If Jon or one of the kids got a fatal illness, Kate would be able to turn it around to how hard it would be for HER. And in regard to the comment about adopting a child from Korea - WHY?? They can't support the 8 they have on their own. And 'one' is like when they take each child out for their special day.

Hi barbee, Thanks. You are right about Kate turning it all into her story.Z

Very staged. Kate made like she didn't know Jon was coming but she was loading the Land Cruiser before he arrived. All of the kids wouldn't have fit in it so she had to know. REALITY??

Kate said: "Everywhere I go, people yell support...blah blah"

It seems there was an inconvenient silence of fans when they were coming out of the shoe store and nobody in that virtual gauntlet of fans said ANYTHING!

I truly believe the shouts of support are in her head. A true narcissist!

As a mother of 8 when the tribe was little I did put all their stuff on the kitchen table so the next morning would run smoothly. Our family ended up displaced in my mom's hometown for Hurricane Katrina and my Aunt came to visit us there. She could not believe how quiet and smooth getting ready for school was. (our kids were welcomed in the Illinois school for a month.)

The fact she hadn't been in the girls room...Ouch...these people that produce and edit this stuff aren't using their noodle.

I was amazed at the turnout for the Stride Rite. They showed these kids walking out of there with people all over. I would not be comfortable with that for my kids at all. 1st of all it is not safe, and 2nd it is showing these kids off as some sort of side~show.
That scene right there would have been the end of my kids getting filmed is all I am trying to say.

Ruth and Z, why would Kate need to go into the girls bedroom? She likely doesn't do any of the housekeeping, so there is no need to go in the room to clean, make beds, etc (oops, I hope I didn't give TLC any ideas to do a "Kate Does the Cleaning" show). She can "see" the girls in other parts of the house if she wants and they are probably a little old to be "tucked in" at night.

After last night's episode which was all about Kate- I,ME, MY on and on and on. UGH.
IF TCL was smart, they would end the show with the kids going off to school. The show has truly become Kate's therapy session in front of the cameras. It is too bad that TLC let it go this far and really make Kate about as bad as they could- without knowing it.
I do think that despite all of Jon's erratic behavior, it is wonderful that he's in the kids lives. The team Kate people seem to think he's never there but remember they do every other week.

chris, my kids are teenagers and I never fail to pop my head in their rooms at night and tell them good night and I love them.

I didn't watch the show. However, if it was about first day of school, most school systems went back by Labor Day, so it's probably been a month or more since it was shot. Maybe at that point in time, I can't remember, the full fledge war of the roses between Jon & Kate hadn't blossomed. You're right, it was the first day of school for the little kids, it should have been about them! Did Kate cry when the kids got onto the school bus, or was she wrapped up in herself and just focused on the fact that there were a few hours before she (or the nanny's) would have to deal with the children.

I heard today that today is the "24 hrs. of Jon & Kate silence in the media". That they both agreed not to battle in the media today. Can't we have more than 24 hrs?? Please??

Did Jon really say "they have to get up wicked early"?
Oh - grow up!

He did, I am sad to say. Z

Please enough of the drama queen KATE GOSSELIN! She beat up Jon regularly and she can't understand why he no longer wants to be married to her? She is so PHONEY!!!

So sad! How could any mother not go into her 9 year old daughter's room to tuck them in at night, especially the day before school. This just shows how "hands on" this Mom is. Those poor children is all I can say. For all their freebies-play houses, Hawaii trips, etc, they are really neglected and deprived of the most important things.

Kate stated recently on the View that her kids wanted to know what those "triangular" shaped "thingies" were, referring to Doritos. She claims her kids have never eaten any junk food. Well, thank god for Tivo because in last nights episode, Kate was feeding the kids lunch after they just got home from school and what would you know? There were six bags of Cheezy Cheetos at each of the place settings where the six kids were eating their lunches. Five of the six bags were turned over so as not to be seen on camera but a production assistant must have screwed up because one bag was facing the camera.

Thank God for the end of this show.

I will be so glad if Jon and Kate disappear into obscurity. I am very disappointed in both of them, especially Kate. I ffor one am not one of her "followers." I find her to be selfish and greedy. I used to look forward to the show, because it appeared to be wholesome and inspirational. Now, all I can think of is that the kids are taken advantage of by the parents for love of money and fame.

I did watch the show and do agree with some comments.We all know that Kate loves the media, the drama and the camera. I am sure that her 1 hr. a week of fame is coming to a close soon. I am sure that we will see this in a year, that they are not still a hot topic. In time, it will fade and the kids are left with the battle scares, it's not right! It was wonderful to see that Jon was there with the kids. He does show that he cares about them, to dispute what is going on personally with Kate. At this point, TLC needs to pull the plug, this has gone too far and they will become the middle of this, if they have another season. Kate and Jon move forward with your life, get a career a real career to support your family. Allow the kids now to be Kids instead of letting them make the money for the family. In my opinion: Jon stay away from your buddy Lohan, this is only adding to the fire. You need to make better judgment calls when it comes to friends. It will be interesting to see in about 2-3 years from now where it's all at, I am sure it will be dead and burried at that point at all ends.

My best to the kids, they are wonderful, bright, intelligent and loving children. Be the best you can be! Best wishes to each one of you on your life's path! Lots of love and hugs to you all!

Please make these 2 self absorbed so called parents go away!

That's crazy talk about not going in the bedrooms! Those girls just turned 9, not 19! Even if you don't go in to wake them up or tell them goodnight (and how sad), I am constantly helping find library books, put on sports uniforms, checking for "weird" sounds from the closet, playing arbitrator for disagreements, couselor for problems with friends and looking for missing socks in my kids' rooms.

It reminds me of the Columbine school shootings, when it was reported that the one boy kept guns and bomb-making supplies out in the open in his room. I'm just not sure how you can be an "involved" parent and not be a regular in your children's bedroom!!!

Th@ article the most intelligent I've read. If only Kate and TLC would read it and take it to their narcissist hearts.

Do you think we will hear anything from TLC soon? Or does their statement depend on the outcome of court, etc?

Hi Irene, YThey are shut down because of Jon's action. So, they will have to wait for the court hearing, which was postponed last week. So, they caan only aior what they have already shot, which I am guessing is not more than a few weeks worth of bad Monday night originals. Z

Kate has used people when they had something to give her and thrown them out of her life when they were no more of use to her starting with her parents and now Jon, who knows if the kids will be next? Why is she bragging about doing daily chores for her kids like packing their lunch bags and school bags, don't all mothers do that?
Also, all she is keen on portraying is how she is the victim here and how she is still trying to be there for her kids when even simple daily chores wear her out. Wake up Kate! All you do is glorify yourself... noone is interested in hearing your interview... I mute the TV when you start blaberring! I feel terribly for your kids and pity they have you as their mother! I think Jon is a better parent and is really there for his kids without making a big deal about it like you always do. Stop faking!

Excellent job, Z. Once again, I commend you for giving an accurate review. Why is the rest of mainstream media so infatuated with the Gosselins? You're the only one who sees through this phony garbage.

Regarding Kate's narcissism, I've said it before and I'll say it again, for all her Christian preaching, her actions are consistently anti-Christian. They're also anti-Judaism, anti-Buddism, anti-Hinduism, anti-anything else. Kate has only 1 true love: herself.

Love your blog, Z!

Haven't watched the show since the end of Season 4 and sounds like I haven't missed much. Anyway, I haven't read all of the comments, so I hope I'm not repeating something that has already been discussed. Here's what I don't understand: What do Kate's fans mean when they say she's doing the right thing and not to give up? What 'right thing' is she doing? Exploiting her kids? Trashing her husband,and the father of her brood, at every turn? Allowing TLC to do the same?

I'm no longer a fan of Jon or Kate, but it is past time for them to get off the air. I can't wait for the day when I can say, "I wonder what happened to the Gosselins?"

Hi DeeDee, Thanks for asking that insightful question. Yes, what is this great thing that her so-called followers are urging her to keep doing? Z

How can you forget that your kids are only going to school for a half day and won't need a lunch? You can when you are contractually obligated to Stride Rite to mention said lunchboxes a certain number of times and have direct camera contact of said lunchboxes for product placement!

Wow, I must have been tired last night -- I looked right past all of Kate's phony cooing over those lunchboxes. That was outrageous product placement. Well, I guess as her audience shrinks, she has to be more enthuisiastic in her shilling to try and keep advertisers on board. Thanks for catching that. Z

What mother doesn't go and check on her children in their rooms. I was a step parent, and I always checked on the boys when they were in their rooms. I lived by the theory if no noise was coming out of the room, something was up (daytime that is). At night I always said prayers with them and then did the good night deal. They also slept with their doors opened so I could hear if they needed me in the middle of the night. I had a rule, no pc, tv or phone in bedrooms. Those activities were for common area of the house. Once they reached a certain age they dressed themselves, but I had veto power. School uniforms were the choicie of clothing on school day. There's not much deviation from that except on special days.

I just don't get queen Kate. She's got it all, and now seems like the kids are extreme window dressing for her.

I don't watch the show so I'm a little confused, but did Kate embassis her kids at school by packing them lunch (and it is embarissing at school to be the only kid with lunch) just for the purpose of product placement? That's wrong. I mean the rest of this stuff is pretty bad but this for some reason really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

The kids only had a half day, so they didn't need lunches. But kate was really focused on those lunchboxes. They got about 10 minutes of screentime. Thanks. Z

It gets worse - I just watched the clip on youtube again. When Kate is getting everyone ready the morning of school she tells a little girl "go get your lunchbox" and the girl starts to say "I don't need it" and Kate cuts her off and says again "go get your lunchbox. Please follow directions." Sorry, kid Mama's got to make Stride Rite happy!

I would not put it past her to push the kkid to get the lunchbox to make sure it gets enough screentime. After all, she is doing it all for the children, you know. Z

Well, maybe the Gosselin camps have been shut up for a couple weeks.

Myfoxphilly reports they are to both to return money to the accounts, go back to the arbitrator and to keep this private and clean it up. If not hearing is 10/26 in front of judge and it will be public.
Whew! Would have loved to be a fly on that wall this morning. I am sure we will hear all about it but at least the Judge is trying to return this mess around.
Please correct me if I got any of this wrong it was fresh off the wire.

I myself would kiss her ring if she was still wearing one (LOL). I will have to wait for the new one with the 8 diamonds and mother of pearl!!
I think this was always going to be the last season. It coincides with all 8 being in school and having homework and all the other things all of us have to do with kids and their lives. It also coincides with Kate and her new career. Do you think it was a fluke that Kate started stepping out with Paula Deen and the big girls in September? You would know better than I that these types of deals are negotiated way in advance and not just opportunities that pop up magically. I notice Little People is starting up and Cake Boss also. That is why I think they were going to stop for the season, if not for good.

Do you know if Kate and Jon produced the show as they said there were going to? Because I know as producers they would get additional dollars.
Hi, thanks for the laugh about the ring. I don't remember ever seeing producer credits for them. Z

A breath of fresh air article!! I was wondering if ANYONE was noticing how she tried to manipulate everyone. This show has been about her for a long time. The kids were just her baggage. Please don't give her a show about anything else!! She's had her years of "It's all about me". Let her go back to nursing....if that is what she was good at!!

The thing that got me about Kate's lunchbox monologue was that she kept saying things along the lines of "this is exactly what I wanted for him!!!"

What parent buys her kids backpacks/ lunchboxes based on her own personal tastes, and not the kid's? Just another example of her narcissism and the fact that to her, the kids are objects and not real people.

Oh, and btw, I think you are wonderful, Z! I have been reading your articles for a while but this is the first time I've posted anything.

Hi Cristy, Thanks for posting a comment. I didn't think of that either -- her endless praise of the lunchboxes was from her point of view -- not that of the kids. Z

"Her not having been in the room of the two older girls for months seemed weird to me, too. I wonder what others think. Thanks. Z"
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Either she was telling the truth, which is highly likely, or she was telling a lie and just saving the mess for the next episode, which is also highly likey. Either way, it was a mean and hateful thing to do to those girls. Yet another memory made to put in the family album. She's mentally ill and needs help.

Thank you, Z, for that wonderful review of last night's show. I am beginning to believe what Kate's brother referred to as his sister's addiction to fame.
I have also known people who wanted the "good life" and would do anything to get it. Kate Gosselin reminds me of a "want to be." She certainly appears to have an inflated view of herself. I. too, wonder what her followers see in her.

I agree that it's time to end the show. It's not as innocent as it once was. I understand financially why they did it and I hope the children can have a future that they otherwise could not as far as education and life experiences.

I'm very unhappy with Jon's behavior though. I think moving on to another woman so quickly and bragging about it plus moving out of town to NYC will hurt these children much more than this show ever did. Kids are sensitive.

The product placement stuff is annoying. There was an episode a while back where Jon goes on the computer and looks up info on some insurance company with a huge mention. It was obvious.

I really think the set-up in last night's episode was meant to have a double-meaning because really TLC doesn't know what's going to happen - but either Kate + 8 or Jon halting all production, the episodes of the "family" as a whole are definitely winding down.

I agree with the narcissistic Kate comments, but feel that this should also be applied to Jon. I caught the YouTube of Jon on The Insider with Nancy Grace - as much as I can't stand that woman she nailed him - EVERYTHING turns around to be about Jon. Asking if the kids should get therapy, he turns it around to him - ridiculous.

I just feel for the kids... seems like they are getting left by the wayside in the Gosselins' version of WWIII being played out on TV for the world to see. Bet going to school is no picnic for these 2 - even the kids in class probably know Daddy's a mid-age crisis douche and Mommy's just after the $$$.

To everyone talking about the lunch boxes & what kind of mom is Kate to not know lunches weren't needed....

Total & complete product placement.

Unless the lunch boxes were crammed into their backpacks, the kids did not carry the lunch boxes on the buses. Their hands were empty.

Good catch. Thanks. Z

Do you think in the last episode they'll show a realtor pounding a 'for sale' sign into the ground by the front gate of the driveway while in the background there's a sheriff's sale on the lawn? And then we'll see a shot of whitecoats carrying Kate out to the ambulance in a straitjacket kicking and screaming ( a la "...sometimes I think I'll lose my mind"). Look what happened to the dogs. I think these two idiots are just an updated version of Jim and Tammy Faye. This show can't end soon enough.

That finale might be almost enough to get some of the ratings mojo back -- almost. And thanks for mentioning the dogs. I feel no pity for two people who could do that to the dogs. Z

Chrysee you get the Blogger of the Day in my book.

My husband asked me what I will do when this cat fight is over.

I'll vote for Chrysee as well. Maybe we should have a comment or blogger of the day on those Jon-and-Kate days. I wonder what others think. Z

Chrysee- what happened to the dogs? I'm not a regular viewer (but don't need to be to keep up with this train wreck). I loved those dogs- please let me know what happened to them!

Hi Melissa, Kate sent them backk to the so-called breeder. She said she needed "a break," I think. We dog lovers are outraged about her unfeeling treatment of the dogs. Z

Thanks Z- and WOW. I had no idea. Just when I thought Kate couldn't get any lower. Those poor kids.

I vote "yes" to blogger comment of the day.

Z, I'm curious, your reviews of J&K+8 must drive some of the heaviest website traffic at the paper, no?

Hi Kathleen, We have been doing okay with "J&K." TV politics stuff does very well, too, as you have probably guessed from volume of comments. TV news is strong also if it involves an issue that is sharply focused -- or certain personalities. Sometimes, conversation about shows like "House" or "60 Minutes" will drive traffic, too. Sarah Palin, now there was someone who drove traffic for a while. Thanks. Z

lol..thanks you guys. I was just having a Walter Mitty moment there for a second. Seriously though, Kate is going to regret all of this some day. She seems to think everyone around her is disposable after they've served their purpose to her. We've watched her throw out friends, relatives, helpers, her husband and her dogs. What's next, her kids? You can't keep fooling around with lives like that without it coming back and slapping you in the face at some point. It's called karma and it's gonna hit her hard.

So is there some endorsement with a high chair company? Is that why there still high chairs around the dining room table for 5 year old kids?

Great point. I am telling you this is one audience that is about a thousand times smarter thana the "stars" of the show or the people running the chnanel it is on. Z

Oh please, prior to the whole divorce drama...everyone and I mean everyone felt sorry for Jon and how Kate constantly treated and belitteled the man. No wonder why he decided to bail on the marriage. Does everyone think that kind of behavior from Kate is going to stop? Please she is going to shift to one or more of the children and begin treating them as she did Jon. We just are not going to see that as TLC thinks they have a future show with her.

The real losers are the kids and Jon. The media does not dig around on Kate as they do Jon and I am sure she is being just as stupid as he is, she just doesn't have it caught on tape/film. However these poor kids have all of this captured for them to see down the road and ruin what little parts of child hood they have...as Kate will not stop stooping them or herself for the $$$$$$$. She is the new "Mommy Dearest" and I am sure Joan Crawford is smiling from her grave.

Sometimes as I find myself thinking about Jon & Kate (which is too much, I admit!), I remember that they married each other!

Yes, I know that people can change, but chances are Kate knew Jon was an immature skirt-chaser and Jon knew Kate was a narcissitic control-freak before they ever exchanged vows, much less had 8 children.

So, now that we're all on the page, can they just go away? Maybe someone can donate a one-way ticket to some deserted island???

Kate is an idiot. She used to NEVER act all sweet and reminice about her kids, now she does it so fakely all the time! ugh makes me sick, and i cant believe jon has to return all that money. Hasnt she done enough to him already. And crying on tv saying she cant pay the bills?? Please!! She has tons of money and everyone knows it. And as for that book "SHE" wrote?? yeah right...her friend wrote it and im pretty sure jon had something to do with it. So why does she get all the dang money?? She is an idiot!!! and a selfish mother from the beginning! She took fertility treatments and had twins ONE YEAR after she got married!! a little rushed?? hmm

I heard today that today is the "24 hrs. of Jon & Kate silence in the media". That they both agreed not to battle in the media today.
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Janice -- was this period of silence supposed to have started before or after Kate's statement about today's proceedings? lol

I wonder about the lunchboxes being in the kid's backpacks and I think they kids probably DID take them on the first day. I looked at pics when the kids board the bus in the mornings and they only have their backpacks - so their lunches are either in their backpacks or they're buying lunches after they get to school.

I thought I caught a glimpse of a crazy-looking (I'm ready for my close-up) Kate towards the end of the show when she was sitting at the table with the kids - when she mentioned the paparazzi.

I think her kids will grow up and be in conflict with her, the same way she is in conflict with her parents and everyone else in the world. But, in her own twisted mind she will be innocent because everything she has done has "been for the kids." No matter how obvious it is that she's doing it for herself.

Kate doesn't appear to be capable of any deep feelings for anyone, even her children. Her mind is so filled with how great and unique she thinks she is. It's so-o sick!!!

TLC has got to dump this disaster! Unless, TLC wants to rename the show: A Look Into the Narcissistic Personality Disorder...

G R E A T A R T I C L E ! ! !
I fully agree. Thank you for writing an honest observation on Kate's self-centered attitude. We only wanted to see the kids.

I promised myself I was done blogging about Jon and Kate. The show is too disappointing for me and I don't trust TLC AT ALL.

But, this might interest some bloggers: A little flyer just came across CNN that Jon Gosselin was ordered to give back $180,000. I watch to much CNN. This proves it.

Anyway, I was totally taken by TLC again because in my naivity I did not think about the show being filmed in advance and I actually always trying to find good in people thought it was nice of Jon to come for his sextupletts first day of school. I felt really used on that one!! So I was done!!! Like ALY!

I keep making that promise, too. But I think we will have to keep blogging until "Jon & Kate" is off the air. I'll check out the CNN report. PS. Suzi is right: You can't stop, Sherry. We have to outlast Kate. Ha. Thanks. Z

Oh please, Jon is just as bad as Kate. He won't let TLC film the kids but he's been letting Entertainment Tonight follow them everywhere. The kids aren't getting interviewed by ET but they've filmed loads of stuff.

"As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children,"

What did they mean when they said "with only a limited number of episodes remaining, J & K spend quality time with those who matter. Do they not spend quality time when they're not filming?

Z-any overnight ratings for 10/12 debacle yet?
Thanks.

Sherry and all I am on your team. This is absolutely, positively the most ugly thing I have seen in my life.

Regardless of how this plays out...and it will be public...this is a sad day for these kids. This is gonna end very ugly.

UGH!

Here is the confirmation on the money Jon is ordered to give back. Only a couple of hours old.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/10/13/jon.gosselin.money/

Does this make it all better?? I;m sure Kate will have plenty to say and the commenters.

I had to discontinue reading all the posts on this, due to all the name calling on Kate. So I assume all of you (including the women) feel this is all Kate's fault? Well I support Kate 100 percent. This is why; after being married for 14 years my lovely husband pulled the same crap as John, and had the nerve to blame it on me. Lets face the facts here people, Jon is the one who was hanging at the club with the young girls in his lovely sports car, then continues to party with a bunch of celebrities, and moves to Manhattan, then empties the bank account. Uh don't see Jon getting a job anytime soon either. So tell me again why you blame this all on Kate??? I really don't get you people, but just had to post that there are quite a few of us that fully support Kate during this time that her stupid jackass soon to be ex-husband displays how much of a victim he is. Oh by the way, one last thing. Kate seems to be making a living for her children, can any of you tell me what Jon does?

Sherry T. -

You can't be done! Because it's way more fun with you around and I don't think I can be done until they are gone - I'm just not that strong. :)

FOX Philly first reported from a "court source" that the judge did not issue any orders or rulings today, but told both of them that any money taken from the joint accounts needed to be put back. He also told them they needed to work this out privately.

So, naturally, Kate's lawyer issued a statement saying the judge told Jon to return the $180,000 and Kate issued a statement saying this has been hard on her and she was glad the judge ruled in her favor.

Hi, Suzi, Thanks for the update and the solid reporting. Z

Did you catch that she had planned TO RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS WITH THE CHILDREN???? God, what team of counselors did they call in to squelch that plan. And she said she didn't because the photographers would follow the bus. Yeah, like Princess Diana, Kate. Maybe you shouldn't ride along BECAUSE IT'S A SCHOOL BUS. What a clueless freak she is, and how really sad it is in the end.

Who is paying for Kate's bodyguard, her stretch limo, her craft services, her nanny's, babysitters, clothes, spa treatments, shopping trips, tanning sessions?

Jon doesn't have any of these perks, yet it's still Jon and Kate plus 8. Isn't he still entitled to the same perks in equal amounts until they baptize the new show Kate plus 8?

Z, talk about the ultimate product placement, how about the stacks of Kate's own books behind her in the interview chair? GAG ME.

This woman is so full of herself, I cannot even stand it.

Also, I'm fully convinced this interview was taped AFTER the ratings started to nosedive. The producers told her to say that piece about how she's done an "about-face" with the "fans" and she "loves" them and "needs" them and BLAH BLAH BLAH. I dozed off a little while Kate was talking about herself.

Fake, fake, fake. This phony production has not been the "realest reality show" for a while.

Hi Kathleen, Thanks. I am glad I missed that one -- the books. Thanks. Z

And TLC, if you are listening, that voiceover of Kate, "I thought Jon was going to be in Las Vegas for the first day of school, so I was suprised to see him..."

COME ON.

I do not work in TV Production and I could spot that fake, added at the last minute, voiceover a mile away.

Plus if Kate didn't know that Jon was coming, why did she attempt to get the kids in the Toyota SUV? The 9 of them only fit in the van.

TLC, wake up! Do you really think we believe this fabricated garbage?!

p.s. I did not watch this because I won't dare add to your ratings. I watched a recording online.

What supporters does Kate have? Looks to me like all she's trying to do is fool viewers into thinking SOMEBODY out there likes her. And did you notice Kate's about face regarding her "fans"? Suddenly, she loves them, appreciates them and their "support." All an attempt to palm herself off as a kinder, gentler Kate. That's when I turned off TLC for the night. It was a gagger.

Same reaction here,. but I had to keep watching. Thanks. Z

Thanks, Suzi J., Irene, Z, and whom ever else. With all that encouragement I guess I will have to stick around. I am just really worn out with all of it. I have watched from the very beginning. The whole Jon and Kate scene with its constant ups and downs. You would think I would be used to it with all the drama that having two teenage girls can provide in one day.

I think I will be able to stick it out since I have all of you behind me. I would hate to give up now. I can't imagine this can go on for too much longer. I think like Aly I just am completely drained. I can see where she was coming from.

But I will stay on it since you are all so determined.

Yep, as usual, Kate made it all about her--while she's doing it all for the kids, of course. When the show ends and Kate has no talent to peddle to TV audiences, she can always take her eight to Thailand or the Philippines and sell their services to Mr. YumYum. It's good for kids to learn a trade.

Thank you for a great article. I can't believe the people that can't see through Kate. I so fear (as one of your readers pointed out) that she is going to turn the horrible attitude towards the children. Every one of them look like Jon. She will always blame him for killing the goose that laid the golden eggs. I stopped watching the show a long time ago. I feel that if I contribute to the ratings, then I contribute to the childrens misery and exploitation. I think TLC should be ashamed of themselves for not pulling that show. Not to mention the parents not stopping it to allow their kids to grieve in peace for their parents marriage. I would NEVER watch a show that Kate was in, EVER. She truly makes me sick. Just the fact that she never allowed her kids to have a relationship with their grandparents is enough for me. There is no purer love than that of a grandparent. Of course, thats why, she knew they would have something to say about the way she treated her kids. Can't wait until I never hear their name. I will always pray for the kids.

Kathleen.. you are right, I felt the same about the voiceover by Kate saying how she thought Jon would be in LV. We could totally tell it was done after the filming. Probably only the past few days!

She was really trying to be the martyr when she went on about how she thought when the six started school, she would have "someone" to say.. "we did it". and do a high five or whatever. So, she told us that she said it to herself. Of COURSE, she said it to herself, Kate only hears Kate at all times.

Even though they are separated, there was no reason she couldn't turn to Jon and say.. "we did it", is there? I mean, they DID do it, they got to the first day of school with their babies. What parent doesn't have those feelings? I"m sure Jon would have joined her in patting themselves on the back (actually, in that one example, I wouldn't have minded their self-satisfaction.

But. nooooooooo.. Ms Kate had to be the suffering mother.

I'm glad everyone else noticed the blatant fawning that Kate did about that stupid lunchbox while in Stride Rite. Good grief, it is a LUNCHBOX. What overkill. And, what about her comment that this was the first time the kids had been in a shoe store! OH MY GOD. She said she always ordered their shoes online. What parent orders shoes for constantly growing feet without having the kids try them on?

She won't take them for shoes, but they dragged all 8 kids to the furniture store and it was a free for all, with Kate finally yelling that she can't take it any more and will order from the catalog. But, of course, they needed the trip to the store for placement, didn't they?

One thing I noticed that I haven't seen mentioned here.... Kids were getting ready for school (in the kitchen?) and they were lined up so Kate could brush their teeth! What 5 year old doesn't brush their own teeth? I thought that was humiliating and ridiculous. CONTROL FREAK!

I guess she kept all the lights low as the kids got ready, so we would all KNOW that it was 5:30 in the morning? DUNCE

ME.. ME.. ME.. look at ME! This woman is beyond help.

About the lunchboxes not being carried onto the bus.

I believe I heard Kate telling one of the girls to put her lunchbox in the bookbag.

I don't know what the title of that episode was, but it certainly should have been "THE LUNCHBOX"

I found it very disturbing that Kate is still mandating only VELCRO shoes. She had all summer to teach them how to tie their shoes. Of course that would mean actually spending some time intereacting with the children on a daily basis. Maybe they do things differently these days but when I raised my kids they knew how to tie their own shoes by the time they were 4. Has anyone ever seen either of these parents reading a book to any of the children? I will never get over the abusive treatment that the dogs endured. I was actually relieved when they were taken away--I worried about them weekly. Remember when one of them as a puppy ate one of the kids small toys and required surgical removal of it. Kate stated that the dog had been sick for a few days and when she returned from her trip, that the dog was still sick so they decided to see the vet? Obstruction of the bowel is extremely painful in a human or a dog. How could these parents not have called a vet at the onset of symptoms. Certainly, any vet would have told them that the dog needed to be seen that day. When the dog was released to go back home the vet mentioned twice the importance of rest and no running and jumping for the 1st few days at home. The moment the dog arrived home, neither parent listened to that advice or actively took charge to make sure the kids understood the importance of this. The next second you see one of the tups letting the dog outside to run and jump with the other doggie. These are selfish and stupid parents.

Well, it sounds like the show was bad again. Good for Jon showing up though. Kate is all about keeping the money all to herself it seems and without the money she is nothing now and will be a big nothing soon. None of what they show is in real time. Kate acts and I am sure the children are put in to act to. Kate would not be with them if they was not bringing in money to her so she could hide it from Jon. Jon has to put the money back, now Kate's turn next. I am sure she will have to put much more in the hands of her husband. They can both support the children. They can both work normal jobs without all this crap being on tv for the chidlren to have to be teased about for years and years to come. Kate don't seem to care as long as she is getting her way and paid for her using the children. If Jon is true to the children he will follow through and see that the children and anything to do about them is never filmed or put in magazines etc., ever again. Even if they have to downsize the children will adapt better than to what Kate is planning on putting them through now and in the future. TLC needs to just go away or they will be ruined if they keep dealing with Kate Gosselin that is for sure! Could care less about Kate and her lies, she is a horrible person and worse a horrible mom it seems! She sure did not take the high road. Of course the high road to her is more than likely making sure she has been putting the money where Jon and the children can't get it. She has to have those expensive cloths, shoes, fake tans, work out equipment, body guards aka Stevie, (wonder where he has been) and all the crap she likes better than she likes her family, riding in limo's and feeding her face with the body guard on hand. She makes me sick. No one lives that way and she will not for long. Hopefully it will put her back to where she should be, home being mama and the same with Jon. Don't think so though. She is better than everyone she thingks-LMAO. All IMO.

I also saw this online and my mouth fell open as I saw Kate hurl everything from toys to comforters down the steps and later state that she had ended up with six bags of garbage! Was she talking about about all the things that she either bought or were probably given to her? I know of plenty of charities that would welcome her so called "garbage"! P.S. loved your atricle!

Jon and Kate are trash. Trash!

Kate's raging narcissism makes her look so foolish. And unfortunately those poor kids will have to deal with it.

I snicker at Kate for how little they are paid for the show. And yet, Kate has such a grandiose view of herself.

A lot of us come down hard on Kate, but that doesn't mean that we don't see that Jon is equally as irresponsible. It's just that Kate seems more pathological.

The twins seem to be the ones most affected by the show and the divorce. I'm sure the little ones have their own angst, but they seem to have each other for comfort.

Although, Kate does them no favors by drawing a heavy line between "girl stuff and boy stuff". How many times have we heard one of them say something like "that's for boys/girls"?

For Mama G to "raid" her older girls' room is terrible. She bragged how she tossed 6 bags of "trash". Now, this what SHE considers trash. Don't all kids collect STUFF? They save the oddest things, yet they feel the importance of that STUFF.

When a preteen/teen's room is a mess (who's isn't??), a normal mother will give a warning to clean or she will "clean" it. All kids know what it means when a mother cleans their room! STUFF GOES!

So, why didn't we hear Kate say that she had warned the girls about their room and that's why she was up there tossing? No, what we hear is that she hadn't been in the room in months. MONTHS? Being her mommy suite is on the first floor, I'm wondering just how often she even climbs those stairs. That is probably work for the nanny (yes, Kate.. the NANNY!) and cleaning lady.

Can we all imagine the reaction Mady had when coming home to see her room had been ransacked? Sadly, I have thought for years that little girl needs coping therapy, rather than just the parents shaking their head "that's Mady".

Plus, I agree with poster above. All that stuff that Kate was tossing down the stairs could be bagged and brought to Goodwill or local charities.

The self absorption of this woman grates on my motherly instincts like nails on a chalkboard.

Lets see how long these 2 bafoons can keep things private as requested by the judge. Should we start a lottery?

On a bright note, I thought the little ones were adorable in their excitement at starting school.

But, of course, TLC had to ruin that moment at the bus stop. I wonder how much they had to pay for the tabloid footage?

So, Kate seriously tells us that school is the kids "time" and no filming. I can hear her "hey, its not my fault if cameras filmed my kids during their "time". But, hey.. might as well use the film for my own benefit and show me waving and being a sad mommy".

Quote of the night: "there will be NO laces in our house" (something like that).

GREAT ARTICLE!

Amazing, Jon steals 180,000. Lied about it for over a week, verbally attacks Kate. He said she took the money but the courts said he did and he finally admits it. Throws Mady under the bus by telling her friends and the world she cant keep a secret, is a squealer. Cant spell his or Madys name. Says no more cameras for the kids and then throws them to the ET wolves and others. He showed up for their b.day in clothes he wore the day before and smell from cigarettes and booze, doesnt shave or shower, and then spends half of his time that day talking to the paps. Texts them when Kate says no to ET or others coming on the property. He told them a play by play of the party when he was actually in the house.. When asked if he wants access to the kids accounts and would he take the money he says YES.

And all I see are attacks on Kate like shes the parent from hell. Wrong parent folks, Jon is the worst. Every time hes with the kids he spends more time with the paps then enjoying the kids. Invites Lohan to keep him company so he has less time with the kids and invites the paps on the grounds to make more money for himself.

Since when is it okay to support a thief and his lies?

Is this the "I Hate Kate" Blog? I don't get it. She is trying to raise her children and support them. Jon is a manhatten playboy. You people need to wake up!

Why has it taken the world to see Kate as the self absorbed, never wrong, controling, OCD NARCISSISTIC mother she is? Jon was the one who bathed and prepared them for bed or the day. Kate never played with them and complained when he did, humiliating him over and over before the world. How sorry I feel for those Kids. Like Jon, they will Never be able to do anything right unless it is what Kate wants. And yes, she CRAVES the spotlight.

Wow, shoot, emotional much? You know that Jon smelled like booze and cigarettes how?

Jon admited he took $180,000 from the account - something you don't want to admit. Kate has yet to admit she took $50,000 even though the judge has told her she must account for that money. Kate went on National TV and fake cried to anyone who would listen that Jon left her with $1,000 and unable to pay the bills, all the while knowing she had stashed $50,000 somewhere.

Who's the liar?

I think Kate and the children should have their own show. Kate is a good mother and person. However, Jon should just go faraway and learn how to be a father.

I was totally taken in by this bunch for years but after awhile I began to notice that Kate was always belittling and smacking Jon on the leg, no matter what he said. I am sick to death of the two of them. Will not watch anymore. Will she ever go for therapy, or will she always think she is right now matter what? Yuck!

I just checked back at radoronline.com to verify what I am going to say. Yes, it is on video and photos that Steve, her friend and bodyguard, who lives in Maryland was there at the school bus for the tups first day at school at 7:00am. Why? He lives in Maryland with his wife. That means he most likely spent the night at the Gosselins. Oh, and remember that on "The Insider" tv program Jon stated that Kate put a dead-bolt lock on their master bedroom. Jon and Kate share equal time and custody at their home but Kate locked him out of the master bedroom. Why? I know that there are photos of Steve and his wife visiting with Kate a few weeks ago. But in my opinion I think Steve is getting divorced or already divorced and Kate and Steve are paying off Steve's wife to play along like they are still married until Kate is ready to come out that they JUST RECENTLY have fallen in love. But the truth will be that Kate & Steve fell in love around a year ago. Kate denying she had an affair with Steve while the whole time she was openly seen with him and traveling with him. Leave it to Kate to have an affair in the wide open while lying the whole time and using his profession as bodyguard to cover her lies.

I just posted that Steve, her bodyguard and friend, was at the school bus on the first day of pre-k for the tups (Aug. 28). That day was what we saw on the last episode. Steve lives in Maryland and is a friend (if not more), so he must have come back to Kate's house that morning to visit with her. So where was Steve when Kate returned home from dropping the tups at the bus? Remember Kate said she was going to workout, pay bills, do laundry,etc. There was no mention of Steve being at the house. Certainly Steve didn't drive in from Maryland to watch them board the bus and immediately drive back to Maryland. That proves how very fake and staged the episodes are. Any comments about Steve?

This show is no different from any other show on TV with children. Look at the Duggers and the other two reality shows with the children. Only different is The Gossleins are going thru a divorce. Divorce gets nasty when money is involved, the kids are the furtherest thing from there minds, its about who will get the money and who will get screwed. This family was all happy in the beginning just like the other shows. Jon has shown that he is all about the young girls and the money, he has shown that in the media. If he really cared about his childrens welfare he would not have been running around with young school teachers and drug users. He would have stayed in Penn and not moved to a $5000 a month apt in NY. How stupid. Kate is no angel, we all know who watched the show just how she treated Jon. No excuse for him or her. They are both wrong and hopefully for the sake of the kids they make right decisions.

Good article - makes you wonder if this woman ever sits and watches some of the older episodes and sees how demoralizing she actually is - oh wait she still thinks she is the victim - she needs to wake up.

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About David Zurawik
I've been The Baltimore Sun's TV critic since 1989. My writings on TV and media have appeared in such publications as TV Guide, Esquire magazine and American Journalism Review. I have a Ph.D. in American Studies from the University of Maryland, College Park, and an M.A. in specialized reporting (on popular culture) from the University of Wisconsin. I'm the author of The Jews of Prime Time (Brandeis University Press), a look at 50 years of Jewish characters and identity on network TV. I have also been with WYPR-FM (88.1) radio since 1994 and can be heard Thursday mornings at 7:30 doing a weekly "Take on Television" report.
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