Jon and Kate are staying on TV, but let's not watch
Jon and Kate Gosselin, the stars of the TLC reality TV show Jon & Kate Plus 8 made it official Monday night: They are divorcing after 10 years of marriage.
“Kate and I have decided to separate,” Jon said about 40 minutes into the one-hour show. Their eight children will remain living in the mini-mansion in Berks County, PA, where the show is filmed.
The reality TV series will continue, the two said in making the announcement. But the question is how many viewers will now stick with the show. And what lies will those viewers tell themselves to try and justify their voyeuristic participation in the misery of the children -- misery caused by these two immature, self-absorbed so-called parents and a cable TV channel.
“How does the show go on? The show must go on,” Kate said, sounding more like a show biz monster than a mom. “It’s going to change a lot because there will be time that I will have to be away from them."
The parents will alternate living with the children in an arrangement that will keep both of them in the kids' lives – but not together.
“I’m still in the show, but we’ll interview separately.” Jon said in Monday night's telecast.
The show has been in a tabloid tailspin since March when Season 4 ended amid reports that the 32-year-old Jon was having an affair with a 23-year-old teacher.
By the time Season 5 started May 25th, interest had reached a fever pitch and the show drew 9.8 million viewers. But it also drew widespread criticism for putting the eight children – twins and sextuplets – through this kind of public trauma. The audience dropped by half from week one to two.
Monday night, the charade ended. And, again, just as I did while watching the season opener, I felt both exploited by the producers and debased for even bearing witness to this carnage.
I can tell myself that it's my job -- I have to watch. And the sociology of seeing an American family melt down before the reality TV cameras does seem worthy of any critic's attention.
But I wonder what viewers who don't have to watch are thinking tonight. I wonder if they feel exploited by TLC selling ads and making millions of dollars out of a show announcing a divorce that will not only leave eight kids with a shattered family -- but a video record of their family coming undone that will define them for the rest of their lives.
I'm done with this sick carnival side show. How about you? It is now clear that the only way to make it stop is to quit watching.






Comments
Its Kates fault she started cheating with the body guard and started letting the money blur her life. Jon just retaliated by going out with another women.
Posted by: Its | June 22, 2009 10:15 PM
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Posted by: Rick Garner | June 22, 2009 10:50 PM
I am definitely done with this show now. I find it hard to find fault with TLC for anything that is going on. One could say that TLC is mainly to blame, but I would point out that the Duggar family in another TLC show, "18 Kids and Counting," don't have even a fraction of the dysfunctionality that the Gosselins have -- and they have 10 more kids than the Gosselins to boot!
The only two people to blame for this madness are Jon and Kate. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that these two have SERIOUS character flaws and are completely out of touch with reality. What's really sad is that these two morons are raising even one child, let alone eight.
Posted by: Steve | June 22, 2009 11:00 PM
Let the spectacle begin. Commentors will rant, state senators will introduce bills.
If this were Rome we'd watch the lions tear apart John and Kate and sell the kids into slavery.
Wait . . . Jon and Kate get to be eaten and regurgitated by all sorts of media for all sorts of years, and the kids get to live with the results.
Rome was an improvement.
Posted by: Norm | June 22, 2009 11:11 PM
jon and kate need to go to a good spiritual counselor for the sake of the children.Because i feels that they both got caught up in the riches of the world instead of working toward their marriage for the sake of the children because the court does not have the best interest of the family. only God can turn a bad marriage around. If they are not saved they need to be saved. if they was saved they need to pray and asked God for their forgiveness of their sin .
Posted by: sylvia | June 23, 2009 12:09 AM
Hi Z,
I have to admit, does anyone actually CARE about Jon and Kate? I mean, can't the media leave these people alone. Eight kids, an affair, a divorce, haven't these people got enough problems in their lives? Plus I think the presence of a camera crew and the muckraking media add insult to injury.
And what is it with these shows detail parents of more than 5 kids? Having a bunch of kids is nothing new and exciting. My grandmother had 8 siblings, and that was almost 90 years ago!
Oh and your allusions to ancient Rome, well done Z! Very good comparison.
-Alex
Posted by: Alex | June 23, 2009 12:25 AM
I am saddened that the Gosslins having these problems. I have been married for over 40 years and know that it is important to step back and look at the big picture. I'm sure that both parents can point fingers at each other, but the kids need them both and I believe that with time they will find their way back to each other. Don't say or do anything that cannot be taken back and give yourselves the chance to come together again. My hopes and prayers are with you.
Posted by: Sandy Taylor | June 23, 2009 12:50 AM
I can't wait to watch!
Posted by: Kristen | June 23, 2009 1:12 AM
PA Courts, please set up court appointed guardians for these minor children (one for the twins and one for the preschoolers) so that SOMEONE will be looking out for them and to protect their interests.
Consider freezing all bank accounts until a full accounting of the monies earned by the children and being spent by the parents with little regard for the long term future and for the damage being done to the children.
Also if Jon and Kate persist in filming during this difficult time, against all professional advice, please issue a court order to prohibit them from discussing the divorce and custody proceedings on air.
Posted by: Silly Me | June 23, 2009 1:21 AM
I love the show and I am just a kid LOL I will wacth the show still but it will not be the same without jon he made the show funny and I think the kids will be very sad because they all screm from daddy when he walks in the door from work
Posted by: Elizabeth | June 23, 2009 2:00 AM
Hi Folks:
It seems that Jon was ill-prepared for marriage and his role as husband and father. I understand that he has a sketchy employment history and perhaps he thought a woman with a career(R.N) would support the household. It seems that Kate, who is not perfect, felt that they could parley their celebrity into a way to support the family as it is clear that her husband could not. Clearly, she made the decisions because he could not or would not. He is the classic the boy-man, passive-aggressive role.
Jon: Do all women a big favor. Go back and live with your mommy. You dress, speak, and act like a twelve year old.
I am so glad that my husband has a spine and a brain. Thank goodness there are more men out there who are mature and responsible.
Posted by: wrenth@msn.com | June 23, 2009 2:21 AM
maybe they should quit- the show/work on their marriage/and study the bible with jehovah's witnesses so they can look into the bible view, which is god view of family and each 's own role in the family arrangement.instead of material part
Posted by: liz | June 23, 2009 2:36 AM
This is reality tv and this is the reality of the american family. Why not watch? Most reality shows are like this anyway. I don't watch reality shows because they are all pretty much worthless in my view, as is most TV and other media in the US. Chalk up another f'd up family in the name of capitalism.
Posted by: gooooteam | June 23, 2009 3:14 AM
Watching tonight due to the hype, but will not continue this as the show is nothing but a commercial for various companies or side shows on TLC at this point. However, it is not just a debased American society watching; it is the lack of anything worthwhile these days to watch on TV, so when you mindlessly want to click that remote, you click to the nearest gossip. I never watched reality shows but TV has become dreadful. I can either watch Dancing with "Unknown" Stars, or watch a family who has gotten rich off the exploitation of their kids unravel. Or I can watch TV pundits push their political party down my throat--again a poor choice. It's not what is on TV; it is what is not on TV these days.
Posted by: Eleanor | June 23, 2009 5:04 AM
Every marriage has trouble and to bail out of this marriage after only 10 years, with 8 children they chose to bring into this world, shows how weak Jon really is. Yes, I put most of the blame on him. He is running away from his children and family. In one year or "whenever", when this show is over and done, no one will care who Jon Gosselin is or who he parties with. He is throwing away his life without even trying to suck up and be a role model for his kids. YES, Kate is a toughie, but she has to be -- she is a responsible mother to EIGHT chldren. She might be handling them like a business, but just try to imagine what it would be like to support and raise these dear children. To Kate I say- I wish you the best, stay strong and move on without this weak boy you were married to. Take joy in who you are and what you need to do to raise solid kids in today's world.
Amen. (so be it!)
Posted by: Jill | June 23, 2009 7:45 AM
An Old Friend Of Jon's (Not Kate's) Speaks Up (Interesting): http://tinyurl.com/oyqsfm
Posted by: moneyremix | June 23, 2009 8:27 AM
I too feel sorry for the kids. I wonder if, in retrospect, Jon and Kate would sign up for a reality show. I think the show is responsible for their marriage falling apart.
Posted by: Tellie | June 23, 2009 8:44 AM
Obviously, this show is exploitation to the 10th degree. I thought child labor laws were in place for some reason. But apparently the labor laws don't count if ratings are involved. These kids are doomed to live life in a fishbowl by no choice of their own. This a disgusting example of what our society has become. Why hasn't the law come in defense of these children? The only thing people can do apparently is not watch. Don't give them the ratings and the show will be canceled.
Posted by: Susan James | June 23, 2009 8:52 AM
I will NOT ever watch this show again. I actually thought that since they made such a big deal about "The Announcement" that they were going to actually do the right thing and stop the show. I can't believe it was just to say they were filing papers to separate only and doing the show seperately. I can't believe it. How can you do this to your children!?! Plus, what makes you think you are so popular and interesting that people want to waste an hour of their lives every week and watch your misery. Jon explaining himself and Kate telling how she was the wronged one and how perfect she is? My God, thanks anyway. Jon and Kate, you both have no shame at all. It really is ALL ABOUT THE FAME AND MONEY isn't it? I will NEVER watch this show and I hope the general public follows suit as this is the only way that these children will have any peace. Shame on Kate, jon and TLC.
Posted by: Charl | June 23, 2009 9:18 AM
I agree with Z. This is a depressing example of the state of our society today. That people would actually want to watch one of the most difficult and saddest times a family will experience -- the divorce of the parents.
Who wants to watch the children crying when Daddy has to leave or when Mommy has to leave?
Who wants to watch them explain to the children that they won't be able to see Mommy or Daddy everyday anymore?
I do not.
I also find it utterly dispicable that TLC would use this family for ratings and crafted the ads and story lines this season in an effort to increase viewers...it is obvious that they had no desire to help save this family that they played a part in destroying.
If Jon and Kate had anything going for them except a lust for fame and fortune, they would put their family first and quit the show and seek counseling to try and save their marriage...outside of the glare of television and public scrutiny.
Posted by: BeagleMom | June 23, 2009 9:48 AM
Alex -
Don't blame the media. It's not their fault. It's Jon and Kate's for allowing tv cameras into their home for so many years and allowing all of the money and publicity to affect their family. I do not believe Kate when she says that the shows had nothing to do with it - yeah sure, they have issues, as every other marriage does, but this show has really destroyed that family.
They should know when the cut off the cameras and that time was a long time ago. It's not good for the kids or them. Money does not equal happiness.
Posted by: JEnni | June 23, 2009 9:59 AM
I stopped watching the show at the beginning of this season. I too wished they would get out the show to try to work on their marriage. In the beginning, I thought they were just trying to support their children; but this has gotten ridiculous. The children will now be able to literally look back on this ugly mess. It is no longer for the benefit of the children.
Posted by: Jenna | June 23, 2009 10:01 AM
With the announcement of them seperating, everyone should STOP watching this program. Flat out. If no one watches it, then TLC with just cancel it. I'm sure Kate won't like that since this is her cash cow, but that is what should happen.
Posted by: Scott | June 23, 2009 10:06 AM
Get this family to counseling and fast.
Posted by: Minnie Me | June 23, 2009 10:25 AM
My wife and I will no longer be watching Jon & Kate. I consider TLC responsible for this travesty, and had they any morals or conscience whatsoever, they would have pulled the plug long ago.
Posted by: Ben | June 23, 2009 10:34 AM
I'm confused as to who the bad guy is, both Kate and John are making the big bucks but then Kate's own brother (and wife) are siding with John. To be honest, Kate's personality is a little hard to take but then John just sits back and lets her belittle him all the time. I would have given them both the benefit of doubt until I heard that they don't want to give up the money so they are going to continue (just not with each other). I guess in a few years that Cara and Maddie (Maddie also hard to take) will be having their own show. Don't blame TLC, they're just filming what the public wants to see.
Posted by: Sandy | June 23, 2009 10:42 AM
I am sad about the divorce but think Kate is better off in the long run without Jon. He is immature and selfish, not to mention heartless and a cradle robber. Who does he think he is? He needs to get a "reality" check. He seems rather lazy, not overly manly, no personality. She could do a lot better. Kate has gotten more beautiful and has a really cute shape now. She deserved that tummy tuck. We all saw the before pictures. She needed it and deserved it. I never watched the show because of him anyway. It is because of her and the kids. She does have good ideas. I wish them luck and still plan to watch the show which will seem like two shows in one. I don't fault TLC for continuing and am glad they are. It's reality. I grew up in divorce and am 52 years old now. I raised my child alone until she was a teen and went to live with her father. Though my situation is nothing like Kate's, I still learn a lot from the show. Jon has tried his best to jeopardize his kids' financial security which will be greatly needed. Shame on him. The media has gotten it wrong. She is the human being. She is in pain. You can see it.
Posted by: Jana Dickey Deffes | June 23, 2009 10:48 AM
Here's what I'm thinking:
1. Make sure money is in a trust fund for the kids.
2. Give Mady and Cara a ghost writer too so they can not only express their own views but also sell their own books.
3. Pay attention to whether or not the parents are around for the days they are the custodial parent. If Kate is out selling and talking or Jon is out with his pals, adjust custody arrangements.
4. Notify the teachers of all 8 of these kids to watch out for their welfare and to report neglect, apathy, depression, failure to thrive, failure to learn, etc.
5. Notify the Humane Society to periodically check on the welfare of the two dogs.
6. Give the kids things like baseball gloves, children's books, toys that stimulate imagination, paint, clay, crayons, paper mache, etc. and let them bring it up to their rooms or into their crooked houses and make all the mess they want to make.
7. Have the custodial parent buy some real plates and dinnerware (or get it donated), cook a meal, and sit down for a meal with the kids.
8. Kate and Jon, either separately or together, should take a trip throughout the world but particularly to developing nations. There they will see many, many families with 8-10 kids. With little to nothing, the kids are well behaved, responsible, capable, respectful, and interesting. (Oh, maybe TLC should take that trip too.)
9. Kill the parts of the show about christianity (or any religion). It's a nice shield to hide behind but no one is impressed by the "christian nature" of anyone on the show. I think any God would be far more impressed (not that a god can be impressed by anything) by two parents who raised children in a loving family and helped the children to reach their potential -- rather than having two parents who don't seem to spent much quality time with their children other than to raise them in matching outfits and be sure every that they week finish their paper plate snacks and then have some new toy/product delivered to them.
Posted by: willow | June 23, 2009 10:50 AM
I completely agree with your article - you were able to verbalize what I was thinking exactly. I am much more upset at the network. I am hoping that the hiatus until August will result in TLC coming to their senses and canceling the show. The "big announcement" should have been that they were canceling the show. I hope they do the right thing.
Posted by: Joshua Nelson | June 23, 2009 10:53 AM
I just have this to say the money is all Kate cares about when she is tearing her family apart. You could see it last season that Jon was not happy at lease I could. Then I realized she didn't have the kids aunt in the show anymore wow!. I think she needs to let go and let God try and help her marriage be saved.
Posted by: Teresa H-Robinson | June 23, 2009 10:54 AM
I just have this to say the money is all Kate cares about when she is tearing her family apart. You could see it last season that Jon was not happy at lease I could. Then I realized she didn't have the kids aunt in the show anymore wow!. I think she needs to let go and let God try and help her marriage be saved.
Posted by: Teresa H-Robinson | June 23, 2009 10:55 AM
The need to keep the show going to pay for the years of therapy the kids are going to need.
Posted by: Ken | June 23, 2009 10:57 AM
Remember, this is REALITY television, and what is more real in America today then two idiot parents having kids and getting divorced.
Honestly people, if you are married today there is a ~50% chance that these people will be YOU, and you're not even on television.
Posted by: Joe | June 23, 2009 10:57 AM
OMG!!! I LOVE THEIR SHOW...IT'S JUST SOOOOO NATRUL...IM WATCHING!!! I DON'T CARE. ILL STILL TUNE INTO TLC!! I WANT TO SEE HOW THEY ARE ARRANGEING THEIR NEW LIVES AND MARRYING AGAIN AND BLA BLA BLA!! THEY WILL MARRY AGAIN ONCE THEY FEEL THE PAIN. THEY KNOW THEY NEED EACHOTHER. TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM WATCHING! ANY ONE AGGREING WITH ME??? VOTE BY RIGHTING A REVIEW AND SAYING I AGGRE WITH TINA.
Posted by: Tina | June 23, 2009 11:08 AM
What an upsetting situation. I feel so uneasy about what has happened to the Gosselins and I'm not even a part of their family.
I understand what it is like to live in a home where mom and dad do not get along with each other and am well acquainted with the constant, resultant tension that is in the air. I would hate for those 8 children (or any child) to have to experience something so difficult.
All I can do is pray for this family and for all who are involved that they will receive wisdom from the Lord concerning choosing the next step and that they would experience God's grace and mercy throughout this time.
If anything, I hope this situation illustrates that marriage is not easy all the time and it requires a great deal of WORK and the commitment to accept responsibility especially when things hit the rocks.
I know it was said before in earlier posts; but I was hoping that this "big announcement" was that they were cancelling the show in order to roll up their proverbial sleeves, work on getting their house in order, and reconnect with the basics of life that have been crowded out by the hoopla of media attention.
I can not just stand by with a clear conscience and watch this show and contribute to the pain and suffering of this family at the expense of a dollar.
Posted by: kpi | June 23, 2009 11:12 AM
If my wife treated me the way Kate treated John, I wouldn't have stuck arround as long as John did.
Posted by: Darrin | June 23, 2009 11:15 AM
I will not watch. Kate shamelessly used those kids to gain money, then instead of putting it away for them, went and completely made herself over. "She's a star!"
The ONLY thing I think they got right and I've said for years is, every couple that decides to divorce should be required to allow the children to remain in their home and the parents have to switch in and out of the home. It was their decision to tear apart the family, let them be inconveinenced and set up other living arrangements. The kids should not have to pack and move everytime it is time to see the other parent, that's wrong.
TLC is shameless for continuing to tape this show. Greed, pure and simple GREED. The same thing that cause the financial mess we are all in now.
Posted by: Denise | June 23, 2009 11:16 AM
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Posted by: BigMouthSay | June 23, 2009 11:19 AM
What a circus!! Jon and Kate need to each get a serious backbone, say "no" to the money and to this "show" that is driving them and their family into the ground and get some real counselling to save their marriage and their family.
They want to continue doing this show for the kids? Give me a break!! This show is what is destroying them. Who, let alone a family of 10, can live properly under such scrutiny for this long. The bottom line is, of course, money. They want to continue for money, both the parents and of course TLC. What? Quit now? With the ratings going through the roof. Isn't this just what the american public want to see? A family suffering maybe a little more than they so that they can feel better about their own misery? Come on Jon and Kate!! Show the world some guts! Fight for your family and win! With or without the crummy show. Those kids need YOU TWO to go on. Not the show.
Posted by: Carol Rein | June 23, 2009 11:29 AM
It's a little hard for me to feel sorry for Kate Gosselin when she whines about being victimized by the press and paparazzi, seeing as how she vigorously courted all this attention in the first place.
She sold her family out to reality TV to get every material good she'd ever dreamed of having, and says she did it "for the kids."
The kids would have been happier and better off in a cramped house with a father who had a long commute and a mother with a flabby stomach than they are in a mansion with a mother who looks like a model and no father at all.
Posted by: Jafsie | June 23, 2009 11:46 AM
firstly, as a product of a divorce i feel sorry for what these beautiful kids will have to go through. i hope they emerge from the rubble as unscathed as possible...
secondly, i am literally laughing my a$$ off reading all the comments here (posted by women, ironically) that blame JON for the dissolution of the marriage because he is so "selfish" and so "spineless." listen up, ladies: NO ONE - be it a man or woman - should have to succumb to the verbal ABUSE (yes, it is abuse) that kate subjects him to. i seriously question her grasp on reality at times, and have sincere fear for the children as they grow up and get subjected to the one-sided "rationale" supplied by kate.
- - as a side note, this is probably a big reason why the divorce rate in the US is so high. only here do women (evidently in large numbers) EXPECT their men to put up with their hen-pecking and chastising, and then get MAD when their men complain about it, or... FIND ANOTHER WOMAN WHO WON'T TREAT THEM LIKE A LEPER.
Posted by: JonBoy | June 23, 2009 11:47 AM
I'm way ahead of you - Never watched it.
Posted by: Lou, Paradise Md | June 23, 2009 12:00 PM
Honestly I haven't watched in the past couple of weeks. I don't think I could stand to. It seems as if this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. Jon isn't perfect, but neither is Kate. If Kate was the wife she was supposed to be Jon wouldn't be looking for someone else to supplement that. & if Jon was the husband he was supposed to be it would be easier for Kate to be the wife she's supposed to be. I agree completely with Norm. They need the Lord right now more than anything. The whole world can say this or say that about what they need but only God could fix this; God, with Jon & Kate’s cooperation. My message is "Love is a CHOICE!" When you don't feel like forgiving someone or loving them, you can still make the choice to do so. You can even cry out to God and ask for His help “The love of God is shed abroad in our hearts” Romans 5:5
It's a daily walk of relying on the Love of God and choosing to love. I've seen many marriages stay together through the tough times because they choose to love. And these marriages are thriving today! You don't have to agree with me; although I wish you would. This little bit of wisdom would change the world!
Posted by: Shekinah | June 23, 2009 12:05 PM
I'm glad they're getting divorced. Next step, get them off the air. These two fame whores whose primary interest is money are a disgrace, and TLC executives are no better for allowing these two to cash in and destroy their family in the process.
Kate was SO sickening and phony last night. Such a "victim." All the crap about "I do all this for my children." As if she's tirelessly worked her fingers to the bone for the children. And she claimed the monster house is "for the children." Ha! I keep thinking about Kate in the episode about the new house, looking out the window and exclaiming, "This is mine, mine. It's all mine!" For the children my butt!
Get rid of these two losers.
Posted by: Toni | June 23, 2009 12:06 PM
From Season 1 to Season 5, Jon let Kate run ALL over him. Yes we could blame all this on Kate, the nagging overbearing, wife, or we could split it half and half and say Kate should've eased up on him and he should've stood up for himself and put her in her place. The reason for divorce is not just one persons fault. When the show started, it was to document the lives of a husband and wife who loved each other dearly, raising sextuplets and twins...Now, the tabloids cant keep there stupid cameras away from the family long enough to go to the bathroom. I agree completely when people say that Jon and Kate should've known to begin with that there would have been paparazi all the time, but I can tell you right now, there is no sense in lying about stuff.....Because trust me, half the stuff that goes into the tabloids about Jon and Kate are LIES. If I were Jon and Kate, I would break the contract no matter the cost and take my family off the TV, go to couseling and work on my marriage. Because that would be best for them and the kids. No kid should ever have to go through there parents getting divorced, let alone on tv. Kate needs to lighten up and Jon needs to step up. I will continue to watch the show, to show my support for the family. If they truly are the Christian people that for 5 seasons they have claimed to be, they will do what is truly right for their kids. Im not saying that staying together is always right, especially if you arent doing anything but arguing, sometimes, life throws us curve balls and we just have to deal with them. I would also like to mention this, There are families everywhere across the country that get divorced, and many of them have more that 3 kids. Divorce happens every day, and no one says anything, people act like its no big deal. But, now that Jon and Kate are going through a riough time, everyone says they are Morons who shouldnt be raising kids, the only reason people are saying that is because its on tv. If they took there family off tv right now, the rumors would never stop, and the tabloids would never stop. So either way they are going to get criticised, or fussed at for doing something wrong. I think that the family needs to be supported, in the decisions that they are trying to make for the good of the family, whether it be staying together or divorce. This family has been watched by millions and millions of people, we've welcomed there show into our homes during the week. We've fallen in love with them and there kids, and now when they need support the most, everyone is leaving left and right. No one is perfect, everyone is human, and we all make mistakes... Sometimes you learn from your mistakes, some people need to think about what they would do in this situation before they critique others.
Watch Jon and Kate every Monday night @9pm.....Thanks for your time.
Posted by: Erin | June 23, 2009 12:13 PM
2 more things. I agree with Tina, I think they need each other more then they know, and I dont think the divorce will last long. And I also agree with one of the above comments about, if they are not saved, they need to get saved and if they already are saved, they need to pray long and hard. God can mend anything that he wants mended. Anyone that is a Christian who wants to help Jon and Kate, please pray for them that is the best support you can give them.
Posted by: Erin | June 23, 2009 12:22 PM
I will never watch the show again.Joh made a choice in life.When he I do twice then had 8 kids.He has his chidren were the most important thing in life.Thats a joke .Go get you young friend.That is your choice.
Posted by: Pat | June 23, 2009 12:24 PM
Dear Kate,
I am so sorry for you and the kids. Jon seems to be having mid life crisis and he hasn't even reached mid life. I seperated from my husband in 97 becasue he just didn't contribute to the family. Getting him to do anything was like pulling teeth. The only thing he did around the house was mow the lawn and 99% of the time I had to help him. I will give him credit for doing some remodeling around the house, but that's what he did for a living. After many years I decided if I had to do everything for myself I might as well be by myself. I know that raising 8 children by yourself will be a challange, but you have proven that you are a strong person. Jon will regret this decision one day. You go girl. Things will be ok. The important thing now is to be there for the kids.
Posted by: Diane Baxivanos | June 23, 2009 12:31 PM
When Kate stated last night that the show must go on, I have to disagree.
I do believe that the "fat lady has sung" (better yet both of those incredibly selfish parents) who sang last night. Please take the show off the air. This is a travesty. If I heard them say one more time that they are doing it for the kids, I thought I was going to lose it. All of the "things" which they have bought for the kids will come back to haunt them oneday.
Especially when they both will say to the kids "After all that we have done for you!" Yuck. Also, Jon is excited to start a new life???
Posted by: susan | June 23, 2009 12:35 PM
When Kate stated last night that the show must go on, I have to disagree.
I do believe that the "fat lady has sung" (better yet both of those incredibly selfish parents) who sang last night. Please take the show off the air. This is a travesty. If I heard them say one more time that they are doing it for the kids, I thought I was going to lose it. All of the "things" which they have bought for the kids will come back to haunt them oneday.
Especially when they both will say to the kids "After all that we have done for you!" Yuck. Also, Jon is excited to start a new life???
Posted by: susan | June 23, 2009 12:35 PM
I agree with Shekinah. This was ALL for the kids my butt! If I heard that one more time, I was going to yack!! If this was all about the kids, she would have walked away from the show like John wanted for the kids sake. He didn't want to be in the spotlight any more. He wanted to try and go back to a 'private' life. Perhaps they could have worked things out for the 'kids'. But, she didn't want to give up the 'freebies' & spotlight. I am sure having their parents names smeared through the mud, & their dirty laundry aired for millions of people is GREAT for the kids. Nice choice...
Posted by: Erika | June 23, 2009 12:35 PM
Jon and Kate repeated over and over again last night that their children were the center of their world. Many in our culture today will not recognize that God is to be first in our lives (which is the first of the Ten commandments). Jon and Kate are no different than most anyone else divorcing in our society today (even professing Christians) for the reason that they do not take seriously the Word of God. Sin needs to be addressed before even a relationship with any hope could continue with their own children.
Posted by: Dean | June 23, 2009 12:36 PM
I am disappointed, angry and any other emotion you can think. I feel like I've been suckered into loving a family that I thought was spiritual and were in tune with each other. Of course, the children are the victims here and if Jon and Kate think they are going to grow up without repercusions they are fooled more than I thought they were. Whatever happened to for better or for worse. My husband and I are celebrating our 61st anniversary in 3 days. My parents celebrated 65 years. These are the things that are precious to children, not the big bucks and all the perks they are receiving. When these kids reach adulthood, they will have done it all. Life will be a great big blank because there will be nothing left for them to try.
Posted by: Ann Tomlinson | June 23, 2009 12:36 PM
I am disappointed, angry and any other emotion you can think. I feel like I've been suckered into loving a family that I thought was spiritual and were in tune with each other. Of course, the children are the victims here and if Jon and Kate think they are going to grow up without repercusions they are fooled more than I thought they were. Whatever happened to for better or for worse. My husband and I are celebrating our 61st anniversary in 3 days. My parents celebrated 65 years. These are the things that are precious to children, not the big bucks and all the perks they are receiving. When these kids reach adulthood, they will have done it all. Life will be a great big blank because there will be nothing left for them to try.
Posted by: Ann Tomlinson | June 23, 2009 12:36 PM
The problem is that there are way too many reality shows out there and not enough real shows where people really do act. Everyone wants to be a star and be in front of the camera and it's clear after deciding to continue this train wreck of a show that to these people it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. For them to say it is all about the children is absolute rubbish. The reality of the matter is that it is a job in itself to raise 8 children, and if you feel you can tape a television show while you try to raise a family, you are destined to fail. Everyone here is trying to blame someone for the end of this marriage but the only people that is to blame is Jon and Kate. You reap what you sow. I choose not to watch these two clowns bicker constantly that it negates anything cute their children might be doing.
Posted by: Norma | June 23, 2009 12:39 PM
I agree. We should not watch this show or others like it.
Also, we should not watch hate mongers like Keith Olberman or David Letterman.
Posted by: John | June 23, 2009 12:39 PM
I can't believe J and K would divorce, or even file for divorce, without counseling.
I blame Kate's nastiness for Jon's affair. But I blame Jon for the divorce. Its clear he wants his freedom and not just from Kate either. To that I say, "Whatever!!"
When you've got eight kids, you owe it to them to fight like hell to make it work.
If it's about money, ok. Fine. TLC can pay them double to create a show about their counseling sessions. But, this couple is throwing in the towel too soon.
Posted by: Tonia | June 23, 2009 12:41 PM
I don't really get all the gnashing of teeth over the fact that Jon & Kate will continue doing the show. It's not irresponsible. They're not subjecting their kids to punishment or some such thing. They're earning a living for their kids people!
Jon quit his job. Kate gets speaking engagements and they earn revenue off of product placement in the show, not to mention they earn income off each episode of the show. Paying for everything in their lives, food and clothing for 8 children for starters, doesn't come free. Stopping the show means no more money coming in.
Suggesting they stop doing the show is like saying a working couple going through a separation should quit their jobs so they can be with one another 24/7 and work out their problems. That's not realistic.
Haven't been much of a viewer until this season, and even then only sporadically--watched last night because I stumbled across it while watchign something else. The episode was pretty authentic I thought.
From what I have seen it does seem as though Kate was very domineering and demanding in teh past. But it also seems that Jon is now taking all that frustration out on her now. They have some issues that they needed to work out.
I wish, for their sakes and their kids, that they would have chosen to more seriously work through their issues. (what do I know? Not privy to what they have or haven't done.) Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. Feel for them both and their family.
Posted by: Geof | June 23, 2009 12:44 PM
She's been a controlling bimbo from day one. As soon as they got married, she immediately wanted kids, but he didn't. Look how that situation turned out. She decided the show is more important to her, using the excuse that she's doing it for the kids' future. Yeah, great future, isn't it? Broken family, life in a fish bowl. Way to go, Kate.
Posted by: Lisa | June 23, 2009 1:11 PM
I had not watched their show for about a year, but I tuned in to last night's show because I read of their marital difficulties.As someone who was in a marriage that was destroyed by infidelity, I don't understand how they could still do this show. I had trouble sleeping and eating for a long while at that time. It was a horrible emotional experience.
Posted by: Wanda | June 23, 2009 1:26 PM
Surely Jon doesn't think anybody believes he is doing this for his children. He made commitments to Kate when he married her, had 8 children with her, and renewed his marriage vows. Taking care of 8 children takes both parents (and more) ... not one at a time!
He seems so selfish ... saying he is excited. He has already made choices in his life that he now needs to honor.
If he has trouble standing up to Kate and being his own person, then he should work on that. Divorcing is a copout and is certainly not for the benefit of his children. Grown adults should be able to communicate with each other in front of the children without so much fighting that it is harmful to the children.
Grow up!
Posted by: Donna | June 23, 2009 1:45 PM
I can't believe how everyone can be so judgemental, no one but the 2 involved (Jon and Kate) really know the background and how they ended up where they are now. I think everyone who are cutting them up really need to keep their comments to themselves. Jon and Kate are not the first couple to go through a divorce, they just happen to be doing it in the public eye. It really angers me when people are jumping down their throats calling them names and saying they are irresponsible parents, we only see what they show on tv in a 1 hour episode, how much are we really seeing. Everyone needs to back off and let them deal with this without all the negative feedback!!!!
Posted by: Michelle | June 23, 2009 1:52 PM
I find this whole business to be a sorry spectacle, and would love to see it, and TLC, off the air.
It's a sorry commentary when so many viewers try to justify their voyeurism by writing as if they know and/or care about this family.
Posted by: Ann | June 23, 2009 1:53 PM
TLC once ran some interesing programming, but this show has been trainwreck, and there is no justification for keeping it on the air.
It's really sad that viewers try to justify their voyeurism by acting as if they know or care about this family.
Try turning the set off and live your own lives.
Posted by: Ann | June 23, 2009 1:56 PM
Who cares?
Posted by: NotBrainDead | June 23, 2009 2:00 PM
I live in Pennsylvania and I can say without a DOUBT that EVERYONE is sick of it and can't wait for this train wreck called KATE to GO AWAY!!! When she said she was looking for property somewhere "WARM" she should have gone because she is as "COLD" as they get. ALL OF US IN PA. SAY NO MORE KATE!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: A Caring Nurse | June 23, 2009 2:06 PM
SHAME ON TLC FOR LETTING THIS GET TO THE POINT OF TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT. I WONDER, ARE THEY GOING TO PAY FOR THE THERAPY OF THE 8 CHILDREN, OR WILL WE JUST SEE THEM IN THE FUTURE ON DR. DREW'S REHAB PROGRAM. THIS SHOW SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN FOR THE SAKE OF THE CHILDREN S MENTAL HEALTH. I PERSONALLY FEEL THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF LAW INSTITUTED PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF ANY CHILDREN THAT WILL APPEAR ON REALITY TV. KATE SHOULD STOP THINKING OF THE NEXT WAY TO CASH IN ON HER CHILDREN.
Posted by: ANGELA | June 23, 2009 2:32 PM
Everyone has 15 minutes, and Jon and Kate have reached teh 14 minute 50 second mark right now. Z, let me ask you a question. The divorce rate in America is around 50%, what makes the Gosselin's divorce filing that compelling that we all need to know about it? Jon and Kate should not go away mad, they should just go away.
Those poor kids are going to be in therapy for years because of all the hell their parents are putting them through now.
Posted by: Scooter | June 23, 2009 2:37 PM
I hope that everyone sees just the kind of person Jon is. Sick of hearing how he was only 2o something when he had kids and last night I'm Jus 32
poor him.
And yes Kate was hard on him but someone must be the parent in this household, not him.
Glad to be starting a new chapter in his life right you fool you have 8 chapters at home alone while your wife has to go and do the speaking for your family (because you don't want to) and because you want to be in the bars with younger women, buying drinks.
I hope that he is cut out of the show and has to get a real job.
Posted by: betty | June 23, 2009 2:45 PM
Using an online calculator, I learned the cost of raising the Gosselin 8 through college Is $3,136,928.00 That's 3 Million + , and that doesn't include any money for the care and feeding of the parents.
Jon and Kate were dead broke when the show started and relied on assistance. They did what many would have done if faced with the daunting challenge of supporting that many children and the opportunity the TLC show presented. Given the statistics on financial strain as a top cause of divorce, I think without the show, its likely the children would have fared no-better and possibly worse, and Jon and Kate may have split sooner under the enormous financial presure had J & K + 8 not come to be.
Our fascination with their struggle to make it all work is valid. We watch because we want to learn from it.
In the US no one teaches us what it is like to be married with children and the difficulty of trying to balance marital and parental roles. We learn by living through it ourselves--often with results just as dismaying. Watching the Gosselin's didn't create thier situation, but inadvertently they have presented us with an inside view of the life of parents. There is much to be learned.
Number one lesson should be that there are no "right answers" for fixing relationships. Anyone who thinks they know what went wrong and what should have happened, and in particular--presumes to know what these people should do now, should be very careful about the glass house they live in. J & K's path to this place was uniquely their's and they will find a path out that will also be their's alone. If the filming continues, I'll continue to watch and think carefully about the uncertainies that life is full of.
THAT is reality. TV just happened to be there to capture it.
Posted by: Sue | June 23, 2009 2:47 PM
1st it takes two people to make or break a marriage. Kate might have been a nag and had to badger Jon but come on it was like he had to be led around and shown what to do. Can we say lazy. My husband and I have been married 38 years and yes there have been some really tough spells but we loved each other and worked thru them. Last nights episode had Kate saying she didn't want this to happen and Jon saying that it was over. So it really seems that Jon wants to move on with his girlfriend. Lets see if she remains that way after all this dies down and he is a regular average Joe. I'll bet she'll move on. And Kates brother and sister-in-law are just jealous that they didn't get any of the money. And yes most of us would jump at the freebies. The children are doing fine all seem to be happy except perhaps for the one who has since day one thrown fits. Coming from parents who divorced the children will survive. I myself will continue to watch the show especially if it turns around to be only Kate plus 8 less the dead weight. Hey thats a catchy title. Good luck to both of them I hope Jon finds what he is looking for and Kate finds happiness.
Posted by: Su | June 23, 2009 2:50 PM
When Kate stated last night that the show must go on, I have to disagree.
I do believe that the "fat lady has sung" (better yet both of those incredibly selfish parents) who sang last night. Please take the show off the air. This is a travesty. If I heard them say one more time that they are doing it for the kids, I thought I was going to lose it. All of the "things" which they have bought for the kids will come back to haunt them oneday.
Especially when they both will say to the kids "After all that we have done for you!" Yuck. Also, Jon is excited to start a new life???
Posted by: susan | June 23, 2009 3:02 PM
Why do all you people care so much about a family you've never met or spoken to?
Posted by: Brett | June 23, 2009 3:03 PM
Anyone would be very stupid to continue to watch this show. They are both spoiled rotted. I think Kate thinks she will become a movie star.
Ha
Posted by: Rita Walker | June 23, 2009 3:04 PM
I don't blame tlc, the gosselins invited them into their lives. I blame Jon, he is a immature little boy, who is thinking with his other head. He wants to sow some wild oats, and play, while Kate raises the kids. Grow up Jon.
Posted by: Loraine | June 23, 2009 3:21 PM
I think all this is so crazy. If Kate wants to let her husband go for "Fame" then let it be, but as for me, I have stopped watching the show because of all this. The family has changed so I will move on to another reality show that has not so much drama to it. I loved this show, but I am no longer a fan....Sorry....If it were me, which it is not...my family would be more important. Jon & kate had problems before all this happened, they just didn't deal with them...So Be It. I love them both and wish both all the best but the problems have been stirring for quite a while and nothing was done and this is the result.....reality split !!!!
I wish them all the best....
Posted by: donna | June 23, 2009 3:24 PM
Pathetic couple, no doubt.
What's more pathetic however, is everyone in here claiming they need the Lord and Prayer to save their marriage.
Religion isn't the answer. All you religious freaks are insane. These people are not meant for one another, period.
Posted by: Jones | June 23, 2009 3:27 PM
I was just going to say well put Z and leave it at that, but Geof had the last comment that I just had to say something.
Tell me how childhood fame and bad parenting worked out for Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Mary Kate Olson and even Nick Hogan? Their parents were making lots of money too. It all went right to shrinks, drugs and rehab.
Jon and Kate have definitely made enough money to hold them over until they got a REAL job. Don't forget the kids already have college trust funds. They won't fall into poverty tomorrow if they stop the cameras.
Posted by: James C | June 23, 2009 3:31 PM
I am a fan of the show and will continue to watch it, although I enjoyed the previous seasons. If only I had $20K I could plop down for crooked houses for my grandkids.
Posted by: Debbie | June 23, 2009 3:49 PM
I COMPLETELY AGREE. WE GOTTA STOP WATCHING.
POOR KIDS GROWING UP WITH NO PRIVACY, THEIR PARENTS DIVORCE A PUBLIC SPECTACLE AND JOKE.
I'M DISGUSTED THAT JON AND KATE CAN'T STOP... AND GET BACK TO REALITY.
Posted by: Desiree | June 23, 2009 3:56 PM
Thank you Z!!
I am writing to the FCC about the content of the show. It contained adult themes not suitable for children and aired no warning of such. TLC also failed to rate the show with appropriate warnings.
TLC hammered the previews of the crooked houses so that children would be attracted to the show and then intermixed the show with adult only content.
Posted by: Free the Gosselin 8 | June 23, 2009 5:00 PM
The whole situation is really sad. I wish they would take the time to get counseling rather than just splitting. Nothing will be the same for these kids. Yes, Kate is overbearing, but Jon is just way too laid back. A lot of folks marry at 22 and do just fine. He acts like it was an impossible task to be responsible for the past 10 years. Last night, rather than thinking of his kids and how this mess was destroying them, he just focused on himself and his "new chapter". Personally, I wanted to reach through the TV screen and yank the diamond stud earrings right out of his ears! (not bad for a man who doesn't work) Good luck to Kate and the kids, and Jon-grow up!
Posted by: hcsmith | June 23, 2009 5:12 PM
I personnally am saddened by the divorce of Jon & Kate, but not surprised. When you have a greater love for money and material things, things begin to crumble. I pray that God will bring conviction in both their lives and bring them to their knees.
I am more upset with all of us. That we place these people and many other "stars"on a some sort of pedestal and then are shocked that this has happened. I don't know the details of their marital problems, but know that I will not support this show any longer.
Honestly, $75,000 an episode and most of families don't even make that much for a year! The love of money is the root of all evil!
Posted by: annie | June 23, 2009 7:10 PM
Jon and Kate made a decision to support their large family by doing the show. It had to be weighed carefully, but they made the decision. All I've seen is Jon being a whiny baby and Kate stepping up to the plate. They should have had counseling all along to help with the strain that such a large family can create. It will take both of them with the right mindset to make it work, but the infidelity on Jon's part didn't help matters in an already chaotic situation. He's just looking for a way out, to have fun. What about the unconditional love and attention that the kids need from both parents? Mothers have to step up when daddy walks out and Kate has had to shoulder a lot of decision making because Jon just wants to whine! It won't be long before the kids notice it too.
Posted by: Annie | June 23, 2009 8:49 PM
This family has a different life than most with cameras here and there. Who are we to judge what they should and shouldn't do... how do we know that a divorce AND the loss of the camera crew wouldn't disturb these kids even more... we are not here to judge... watch, don't watch, up to you... hopefully no one will judge you for your choice... we are not the judges... live and let live... I am especially surprised by Christians judging... I thought we were taught to accept and love everyone and leave the judgement to a higher power
Posted by: Janice | June 24, 2009 12:15 AM
I love the Gosselin family.
I hope that the girlfriend on the show rumors prove to be untrue, and that the focus of the show remains on the childhoods of those adorable children.
Who is perfect? Please, please show me a perfect family with perfect parents and perfect children. (I won't watch it on TV but I'll be amused for at least two minutes.)
I'm sorry if you don't catch my sarcasm - it is obvious I won't change minds. But I decided a long time ago to watch these children grow up and my mind is unchanged by relationship decisions on the part of obviously stressed parents. DO YOU HAVE THEIR SITUATION?! If you do, it is challenging and you don't have cameras. If they had not had the show, single mom Kate wouldn't be able to support the 8, even with child support payments... quick, someone tell me what day care is for 8 children in two age groups....
Whatever. I'm still watching. The kids aren't splitting up and Mady and Cara are more hilarious each episode. The six keep getting cuter everyday. Sure, I think Jon is treating Kate like a jerk, and maybe that's revenge for the witty banter gone bad, but I hope to see them smile at each other on purpose for the kids... if a mistress isn't allowing him niceties with the mother of his eight children then she will go away. GOSH they are cute.
Posted by: Mady Fan | June 24, 2009 8:37 AM
INSTEAD OF EVERYONE GETTING SO UPSET ABOUT THE IMPENDING DIVORCE LETS THINK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE PEOPLE ON THE SHOW THAT TLC PUT IN FRONT OF US. STEP ONE (A COUPLE WITH A MODEST INCOME) EMBARKS ON A MULTIPLE BIRTH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HAS HELP FROM THE SYSTEM. STEP TWO EMBARKS YET AGAIN ON ANOTHER MULTIPLE BIRTH THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF THE FIRST BIRTH, HM MM WHO WILL BE PAYING FOR ALL THESE IMMATURE DECISIONS I'M SURE IT WASN'T FROM THEIR SAVINGS. TLC STEPS IN AND THEY HAVEN'T PAYED FOR MUCH SINCE. PEOPLE DO YOU REALIZE THEY EARNED 3 MILLION OFF THE FILMING OF THE SERIES LAST YEAR (EXPLAINS THE NEW MINI MANSION AND BODY GUARDS), NOT TO MENTION ALL THE THINGS THEY RECEIVE FOR FREE (THAT'S HOW SHE CAN AFFORD ALL ORGANIC FOOD). I WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY TLC HAS PUT IN A TRUST FOR THE CHILDREN SINCE THEY ARE THE ACTUAL SUBJECTS OF THE SHOW OR SO I THOUGHT. JUST A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT. PS I STOPPED WATCHING ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO, FOUND IT WAS TOO DISTURBING TO WATCH
Posted by: ANGELA | June 24, 2009 10:31 AM
JUST SOME OF THE THINGS JON AND KATE HAVE RECEIVED (The Gosselins make up to $75,000 PER EPISODE - Free beds
- Front-loader washing machines
- New furniture
- Free solar panels for "Going Green" episode
- Clothes from Gymboree and Gap
- Mady & Cara birthday at American Girl Place (2 dolls and birthday package for 2 adults & 2 kids): $710
- Trip to Florida Key's for Jon's 30th birthday
-Tickets to Dutch Wonderland amusement park: $309.50
-1/2 an organic cow from Natural Acres Farm: $1,395.00
-Tickets to Philadelphia Zoo: $104.00
-Tickets to Walt Disney World: $654.00 per day
- Utah house rental (estimate: $5,000), ski lift tickets $72 for six days), ski school lessons ($140 per child)
- Upright piano, which they got rid of when they moved into their new $1.1 million home : $5,550-$6,350
- Violin: $100-$300
- Old house re-carperted
-Crayola Factory Tour: $90.00
-Teeth Whitening (for Jon & Kate): $1,310 (average price for 2 adults)
-Hair plugs (Jon): $5,200 (average cost)
-Sesame Street Place tickets: $509.50
-Day with Thomas the Tank Engine: $180.00
-Beach trip to North Carolina, house rental, Jeep tour
-Sight & Sound Christian theatre tickets: $236.00
-SkyBox at Phillies game
-LegoLand tickets: $550.00
-San Diego Zoo tickets: $278.00
-Grand Wailea Resort (Hawaii) for 2008 vow renewal: Suites range from $725-$1,080 per night.
-2 purebred German Shepherd puppies: $1,000-$3,000 per dog
- Please Touch Museum tickets: $150.00
- Giants grocery store: $5,000 in gift cards and a year's supply of diapers
Jon, is now a stay-at-home dad,because he was fired from his job at Style Craft Corp in 2004 after spending to much time on a quest for freebies than working
Posted by: ANGELA | June 24, 2009 11:13 AM
David Zurawik we must united and email TLC to cancel Jon and Kate plus 8.
We are all here complaining about Jon and Kate but now it`s time for action. We must stand up for the kids.
I emailed TLC`s viewer relations department and told them I will boycott Jon and Kate. I also told them that people are more likely to tell 4-5 people of a negative experience then a positive one.
So everyone let`s unite and standup for the eight plus what a precident this is showing. That kids should be exploit under any circumstances all for the mighty $$$.
To email TLC go to http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations. It`s a simple process but you have to select Jon and Kate plus 8 show. They will respond that they will send your concerns to the executive. The email that comes back is viewer_relations@discovery.com but state they will not respond this email.
Posted by: Sue | June 24, 2009 1:20 PM
Angela,
Yes all those freebies cannot return the precious and priceless childhoods back to those eight kids.
This is a national shame - nothing more than a modern day Dionne Quintuplet saga - except they are available 24/7 on cable and the internet.
These kids deserve to live their lives without cameras - FREE THE GOSSELIN EIGHT!
Posted by: Bev Okin-Larkin | June 24, 2009 2:03 PM
Bev Okin-Larkin
That is the truth, the children do deserve a normal existence. Hopefully the parents will open their eyes to that. but they are not completely to blame, TLC did bait them and used them for ratings. shame on TLC. People can help the children by not watching.
Posted by: ANGELA | June 24, 2009 4:48 PM
Sue
Thank you for that information, I will be sending that e mail also.
Angela
Posted by: ANGELA | June 24, 2009 4:51 PM
Jon is an ---. Kate has had to be strong because he is sooo weak! Bless her! She needs all of our support!
Posted by: katherine turner | June 25, 2009 3:01 AM
mmm...a whole bunch of losers lamenting/commenting on a pair of losers. It just shows how empty people's lives are, that the have to drown themselves in this "reality" crap. Reading through the posts, most of you should go to counselling yourselves. As for the show, never watched it except the last 2 hour sound bite, never ending loop - CHRIST they could have done it in 30 minutes!
in 5 years most of you won't even know/remember their last names!
as Brett said above
"Why do all you people care so much about a family you've never met or spoken to?"
Answer - PATHETIC
Posted by: tp | June 25, 2009 2:27 PM
tp
If we are "a whole bunch of losers lamenting/commenting on a pair of losers" because we care about children being exploited, HMMM (Oh, my goodness) wouldn't that make you a living, breathing "Oxymoron" since you are commenting about us commenting about them. HA :)
Posted by: Angela | June 25, 2009 3:06 PM
To Eleanor at 5:04 pm:
1. Kate filed the papers for divorce.
2. Kate SAYS it is Jon who wanted the divorce and wanted out of the marriage quicikly. Yet it was KATE who filed, who checked the box that said that they have been living apart and separately for two years.
3. That makes Kate a liar one way or the other because she renewed her vows on TV 10 months ago, promising to stay together forever, with the children as witnesses. That totally contradicts living separately and apart. Either way, she was lying about something. So do you believe a liar? And what kind of person who, if she were living separately and apart, would go through the vow renewal on TV to an audience of millions but especially in front of her children, with no thought of how devastated they would be and how they would have NO trust in the word of their parents when the truth came out?
4. Who is the one going around to People magazine and the TV shows to sell her story, regardless of the effect on the children? She says she wants a peaceful and amicable divorce handled privately, yet she is selling the story that it is all Jon's fault to anyone who will listen.
5. "I would never do this"...yet she did. If she would not have filed for divorce, then she should have waited for Jon to file if she were indeed telling the truth. Given his passive nature, IF she were telling the truth, which is doubtful, he might have changed his mind or looked at the children and decided against it. Eleanor, her own brother has come out and said that Jon told him that Kate had come to Jon 6 months ago and said "It's over." Again, this would be hearsay, although there is talk of a secret contract, which I hope Jon has in a safe place if one exists. Yet why would you believe her hearsay and not his? Look at the facts, what she is doing and has done, not what she says. One fact is that this is her own brother who obviously believes what Jon has said. Her own brother, who knows her better than any human being. Have you asked why he would believe it? And if you intend to go the "he's jealous...you don't do that to family" route, please remember their actions, their obvious love toward the children documented on tape, the fact that they, unlike the rest of us, were "insiders" who knew what was really going on and how the children were being exploited. Their reason for coming out was that as Christians, they had a duty to tell the truth in love and according to them, they did tell it to Jon and Kate many times before taking it public.
6. You call Kate a strong woman? A strong woman doesn't have to berate another human being. She doesn't need to denigrate her husband in front of her children and the world. She doesn't need handlers to read all the posts that expose her priorities and then try to alter her public persona accordingly, such as by wearing the same dowdy pink housedress (the only frumpy item in her wardrobe?) after comments have been made about how the way she dresses exposes her priorities or now saying "I always call it the kids' house" when on the show she is seen saying, "Mine, all mine, as far as the eye can see."
There is a very good article in Christianity today on The Gospel and the Gosselins. Walt Mueller has also written a very thoughtful article in the vein of "there but for the grace of God go I" stating what we all have to do to help the Gosselins. http://learningmylines.blogspot.com/2009/06/jon-kate-too-late.html
Please consider reading these articles before you automatically blame Jon and consider Kate a "strong woman" who "has to do what she has to do" to raise her kids. Analyze her actions. This is a carefully crafted ploy to play the victim and gain sympathy, but her actions, such as making statements about "Jon's activities over the weekend" have left her "no choice" but to file legal procedures (Jon spent the entire weekend with the children) clearly indicate who is on the offensive and trying to gain sympathy at the expense of the children. Do you think Mady wants the whole world to know her reaction to the break up of her family? But then again, we only have Kate's word that's what Mady said, the same Kate who said that Mady has asked to stand up for her at the renewal of vows, whereas Mady's comments and behavior clearly indicated it was not HER idea.
What we all can do, if we love the kids, is to stop watching. That's the only way the show will end. And PA needs to look into making sure assets are put aside for the children. In case you think that the TV show is the only way Kate can provide for the kids, don't forget the fortune she is sitting on. And don't forget that Dr. Gosselin gave them a very large sum of money, which Kate felt should not be used to raise the children as it was the public's duty to do so, since society encouraged the reproductive technology that enabled multiple births.
Christians are asked to use discernment. That is separate from judgment. Get the facts and exercise discernment.
Posted by: usediscernment | June 25, 2009 6:45 PM
I speak with a good solid 12 years experience and understanding about the industry. I do follow new legislation and the laws concerning minors in entertainment and I hope that it will eventually come out that PA had a law that would have protected 8 minors who were thrust into the public eye with no voice to say "NO"!
TLC you have won the award for the bottom feeders of this business! Exploiting children like we’ve never seen before. Product placement, like the CROOKED HOUSES..which the children SOLD for the company on their last show like a glorified commercial. Did they get paid for selling a product while their parents aired their dirty laundry about their private lives and separation whille TLC made a home movie of this for the children to view forever on the internet?
The show is scripted. The children announce the show every week with memorized scripted material!
AND THERE ARE CHILD LABOR REGULATIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA! INVESTIGATION, not needed, here they are!
http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/cwp/view.asp?a=185&q=252507
And you tell us that these children were not employed and should have been compensated for five years of WORK! Everyone is wondering if the law covers the children! THE REGULATIONS define the law and are legally used to define the law!
Regulations State:
“Employment — A minor engaged in a performance shall be deemed employed, if any person, including the performer, his parent or teacher, receives remuneration from the performance or if any performer in the production is paid for performing.:
Gee Mommy and Daddy exploiters are paid very nicely. Regs say if a parent receives remuneration or if any performer is paid..then the minor engaged in the performance shall be deemed employed!
I have a decade plus experience in this industry. Kate and Jon stop with the tears and fears of the papparazi! You invited them into your home, you invited the world into your home from potty training to bath time and in your kids bedrooms -WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? STOP THIS INSANITY. Stop a show where Kate belittled her husband on each show and STOP the home videos that the world has been invited to watch and will be a part of the internet forever!
TLC you are the bottom feeders, the worst exploiters of children that I’ve ever seen!
The public needs to focus on not just the Pennsylvania Child Labor law but the regulations that were written to define the law!
http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/cwp/view.asp?a=185&q=252507
The official publisher of the Commenwealth’s regulatory updates has made the Pennsylvania Code and Bulleting available online at http://www.pacode.com and http://www.pabulletin.com
http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/034/chapter11/subchapAtoc.html
Employment of Minors in Performances, Subchapter A.
11.2. Purpose.
This subchapter is designed to carry out the intent and purpose of section 7.1 of the Child Labor Law, as amended (43 P. S. § 48.1), establishing conditions for the issuance of special permits for employment of minors over seven and under 18 years of age in certain performances.
Employer—Any person who for his own account or benefit or that of his patrons, directly or indirectly, or through an employe, agent, independent contractor, or any other person employs or permits any minor to work in theatrical productions, musical recitals or concerts, entertainment acts, modeling, radio, television, motion picture making, or in other similar forms or media of entertainment.
Employment—A minor engaged in a performance shall be deemed employed, if any person, including the performer, his parent or teacher, receives remuneration from the performance or if any performer in the production is paid for performing.
Can the children’s permanent place of residence be deemed a place of employment? Per the regulations - regulating “supervision of minors”
(2) Every minor under 16 years of age when the rehearsals or performances are located in the permanent place of residence of the minor and if they terminate after 6 p.m.
Power point or slides…stating the law!
http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/cwp/view.asp?a=142&q=216821
Permits issued for:
“7 years old for theater, modeling and television”
Under certain restrictions, caddies may be employed at the age of 12, news carriers at 11 years of age, and juvenile performers in the entertainment field at the age of 7. Minors and infants may be in the cast of a motion picture if special permit is obtained.
Special permits can be obtained..however, they have to comply with all labor regulations!
PER THE LABOR LAW - these special permits shall not exceed a time period of six months and the minors cannot be deemed temporarily employed!
“Special permits authorized by this
subsection shall be valid for a period of time not to exceed six months. An issued permit shall state that no
minor, allowed under the permit to be temporarily employed”
APPLICATION FOR WORK PERMIT
http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/lib/landi/pdf/bllc/llc-12_rev_8-04.pdf
Per the regulations…a minor is to be deemed employed if ANY PERSON in that performance is paid!
That is the legal interpretation of the law!
The minors announce every episode..scripted material, lines to be learned and said on camera! REALITY, UNSCRIPTED?
PA Labor Department - shame on you as well for not taking a stand when a bottom feeder production company comes along and parents who see the Hollywood sign so brightly that they forget the children have to deal with the internet and their peers and this following them forever.
It’s an experiment and we don’t know how it will turn out for the children. They are minors and cannot provide informed consent…that decision was made for them!
The spoke scripted material on camera, they sold products for companies on their show (endorsements) and may have only been considered “participants” in this show?
Shameful! STOP THIS SHOW!
Posted by: JP NY | June 26, 2009 7:21 AM
Jon and Kate should seek some marriage counseling. Maybe it would repair their marriage. They could find some good wisdom from the Allistair Begg ministries. We have found him to be very insightful.
Posted by: Sherry T. | June 26, 2009 8:46 AM
Kate is a momzilla and they real moms do not make money of their super young children
Posted by: sarah | June 26, 2009 9:31 PM
i feel pity for them. everybody goes through marital problems. it's sad that they have to be exploited like that. when other people get divorced it is alot more peaceful... funny story- when my friend was 3 and her parents were getting a divorce, her parents were explaining it to her. when they were done her mom asked if she had any questions. my friend asked," can i have a popthickle?" ( she had a lisp as a child)
Posted by: Jennifer | June 30, 2009 5:00 AM