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May 25, 2009

Jon & Kate Plus 8 season opener: I'm sick of it already

Jon & Kate Plus 8 returned for a new season Monday night on The Learning Channel, and I am sick of it already.

If I didn't feel exploited before by this jumped-up soap opera, I do now. I haven't seen a show that padded with so much extraneous editorial material to accommodate an overflow of ads since Super Bowl or the finale of American Idol.

Some of the footage was replayed two and three times, like the kids blowing out the candles on their birthday cake. Or, how about Kate saying she doesn't know what the future holds -- and then breaking into tears?

And speaking of those tears and we-don't-know-what's-going-to-happen quotes from Jon and Kate, could TLC be milking the tabloid drama any harder? The questions from the off-camera interviewer were right out of the tabloids that  Jon, Kate and TLC claim to so despise. "So what is the status of where you guys are right now? "Was this birthday party bittersweet?"

The "bittersweet" line was the one that brought poor, dear, sweet and sainted Kate to tears -- as she said, "Maybe this will be our last family picture." She is even starting to talk in tabloid, headline soundbites.

The main thread of the 75-minute episode was the fifth birthday party for the sextuplets, but even that was just filler in between the bookend segments of Jon and Kate talking to the camera about what Jon terms "the difficult time" they are going through.

Jon, who clearly took a break from the family just before the taping of the episode, says he never "cheated" on Kate. And while she believes "this is not where we're supposed to be," she weeps at how quickly they became "two very different people." And now, she tell us, their life is "just so hard."

Is it really, Kate? Tell that to a family in which the breadwinner has just lost her or his job, you silly, self-absorbed fool.

The 75 minutes really did feel like a full 12-hour workday to me. I wish I had put a timer to the program, because it definitely felt like there were more ads than family matter onscreen.

For all the nasty and stupid reality shows I have seen over the years, I have to say this one did leave me feeling like I was looking in on something that I shouldn't be watching. What I saw was two people in over their heads, with one of them trying in her incredible arrogance to act like she knew what she was doing -- and an off-camera voice playing the melodrama of these lives for all it was worth. The kids mostly got lost in all of that.

I suspect the prospect of seeing a marriage crack up brick by brick in front of your eyes is just the kind of reality-TV "pleasure" that might keep some viewers tuning in week after week this season -- and some of the advertisers paying top cable dollar to be part of it.

But not me -- at least not given the way I feel now. I suppose I will have to come back next Monday because the episode features a trip to Baltimore's Charm City Cakes. But as of tonight, it feels like I have had all the Jon & Kate I can handle.

 

 

 

Posted by David Zurawik at 10:17 PM | | Comments (246)
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Jon & Kate

It's time to wind down Jon & Kate + 8.

It was a special show because sextuptlets followed the birth of twins.

But now the sextuplets are 5 and we have discovered Jon and Kate are nothing special.

Jon is shallow man who feels cheated by an early marriage and appears to not want to work out a difficult relationship. I know many people like that. No need to have a show about it.

Kate is a nurse who thinks by having 8 children she is special and has a unique (and marketable) story to show. She is obsessive and compulsive and these traits make her difficult to live with impair her judgements of others. I know many people like that. No need to make a show about it.

I'd recommend winding the show down. The producers may now agree but it doesn't matter to me. I know I've watched my last episode.

I used to love watching the show, but not anymore. I can see the toll it has taken on the children, as the eposides carry on. Kate also shows a definite dislike to Jon, and in her eyes he can never do anything right, which the children pick up on. The little ones all seem to be very angry, agressive and abusive to each other lately. I also feel that Kate is no longer the down- to- earth person she once was at the start of the show. I know she loves her children, but I believe she is overdoing it just for the benefit of the show, tears and all. Now that they have it made, they should stop shooting new episodes, for the children's sake, and get back to normal. But I believe they are getting too greedy now.

I hope if they do get divorced Jon will take Kate to court to get these kids off tv. Kate is trying to set up a show about herself and the kids, more episodes of Kate whining about "doing it on her own".

Give me a break, tell that to all of the moms married to men serving in Iraq or Afghanistan, or as David, said, all of the parents who have lost their jobs. I am sick of this woman who always finds something to complain about even when she moved into her new mansion. She is disgusting, and both of them are disgusting for selling their privacy to the highest bidder.

I believe she was crying because her marriage was crumbling before her eyes. Anyone dealing with divorce knows how difficult and hurtful it is during this time, even more so when cameras are in your face. This blog is too harsh on the family, so perhaps reality tv is too real for you. I do hope they quit the show and work on their relationship, though. This season should be their last. Best of luck to this family.

I think enough is enough let this poor family be , so if they really are having problems they can work on them in privacy , and if its all just a big put on to get ratings then us viewers should be smart enough to turn the tv off when the show is on . I for one am sick of the show , how long are people willing to watch other people raise there kids , who cares anymore.
It is time for them to go off the air.

Clearly, the show has taken control over the entire family and possibly to the detriment of the children. Imagine the children finding archived footage of this trainwreck of a show when they are old enough to understand.

Yesterday's episode showed two unlikeable people who fail to see that there are some simple solutions to their woes - end the show and go back to living normally.

Thank you for listening.

Thank you for your thoughtful comments. The idea of the kids going back and looking at this footage is fascinating. Z

When will Kate realize that doing what is best for her children does not include belittling their father, always taking down to him and acting better than everyone else in the world. If she truly is doing what is best for her children then why is she running around and not being with them. She admitted the kids called her the name of the babysitter. Kate wake up and wise up. You are raising 5 girls how to belittle men and 3 boys that is ok to be hen picked. Now say your doing your best for the kids

It made me so angry to see Kate tearing up and acting all "woe is me." She has NOBODY to blame for what is going on but herself. She brought all of this on herself and she needs to knock it off with the self-pity.

I also loved how Jon said that he "didn't sign up for all of this", meaning the public scrutiny and media attention. Guess what buddy, you agree to do a reality show for years and this is the sort of thing that happens. You most definitely did sign up for all of this. I'm sure Jon was more than happy to put up with all the crap when he bought that fancy sports car we saw on last night's episode. Why exactly do you need that car Jon?

Both of these two make me sick and they're getting everything that they deserve.

Good points about Jon and the car and his self-pity about "not signing up" for the life he now has. In some ways, the high-school level immaturity of both is astonishing. Really, I have seen high school couples with more smarts and maturity. She has become an obnoxious, self-absorbed joke and he's a whiny, sullen, self-absorbed adolescent. Z

Jon and Kate: get over yourselves, 8 children and you won't sit on the same couch together- ABSOLUTLY PATHETIC. You want to fix your marriage and save those kids- TALK!!! talk, talk, and MORE TALK and then talk to TLC and get out of your contract.All of last nights marriage talk did either one talk about what this is doing/will do to the kids...very sad. I am finished with this show it is so hard see those 8 sweet kids ruined.

It's typical of men to feel manipulated by tears, a woman's tears. But they are real most of the time and they were real here. Women cry when they are feeling strong negative emotion - anger, sorrow, loss. Especially when angry.

It is not controllable and men don't understand it, because they don't feel or think the same way and they have no notion of what it's like.

Maybe TLC was milking the tears. But Kate's frustration and anger and loss is real enough for real tears.

That doesn't make her an angel and Jon Gosselin a villain. It makes her angry and upset.

If Jon and Kate are going to repair their marriage then they need to get away from the reality show and do it in private. I thought the sadest part is what they are doing to their children. If they continue in their show I believe they will do real harm to the kids. I guess they are contracted to do the show for this season, but I really don't want to watch. Can't contracts be broken??

Sherry Tellitocci

Forget the fact that they are television. How about a little sympathy for a couple who's relationship seems to be falling apart and the 8 kids whose lives are without doubt going to be affected by the whole drama? You make fun of Kate when she says life is hard. You call her arrogant. You say John took a break from the family even though he stated that he has been a stay at home dad for the last 2 years. How about you try and raise 8 children and lets see how easy your life is regardless of how much money you have? Now they did sign up for this, but I found the tone of your reveiw to be somewhat self righteous. I guess that;s just the tone "reporters" take now huh?

That's the tone many of the readers making comments take here. Thanks. Z

Pennsylvania should have better child labor laws.

I never got the feeling of a love relationship between the 2 of them and I've watched since the beginning. It's difficult enough for couples raising singletons to find room to keep the lovers and best friends relationship with their spouse. Bring sextuplets into the mix and TV stardumb...this marriage didn't have a chance. If I had to pick a team I'd be team Jon. But there is plenty of blame to go around. mainly why Jon would marry this over bearing woman in the first place.

I just hope Jon has a good lawyer because if Jate finds a way to raise these kids and keep her celeb status alive she'll cut Jon right out of the kids life.

It's heart breaking for the kids. Jon and Kate, each on their own love the kids and have done a great job but together they are toxic.

I would imagine Kate will have a bit of a hard time finding a new man. her Nagging is infamous and no sane man would get within miles of her.

Last nights premier Seasons V - was all about Kate - when has she ever complained about "being sooo tired" so many times - "I'm sooo alone" baloney - she is alone because that is the route she has taken! When Jon was around for the few minutes, she continued to "boss" him - she truly has an agenda that does not include Jon. No more watching for me. PUT THE KIDS FIRST and act
like you at least have the kids welfare first ! For the money you are making you can at least ACT like you like each other. Won't work otherwise.

I am in full agreement, my husband and I have watched this show religiously for three years. At first it was such a great family show, kids, parents, arguments on everyday stuff. kate was just like me, bossing around her clan in a fun way, And now she is tanning, doing her nails, wearing designer jackets, and friends with the hollywood who's who...i dunno it just does not seem right to me. Jon looks lost, bewildered, and yet it seems they both just love the livelight too much. Greedy is a good word and those poor kids need to rest at night knowing both of their parents are protecting them. I am very disgusted by TLC and how they are exploiting the entire family, it is so sad...just pathetic and sad. KATE AND JON GET YOUR KIDS OFF TV and start raising them the right way-----

Jon has been verbally abused by Kate for years ... He even mentioned last night that "some people" (he meant Kate) say he can't talk or even breath right.

I remember the episode where she made fun of him because of the way he breathes.

I don't condone anyone cheating in their marriage, but she TOTALLY pushed him away.

I geniunly feel bad for them. I feel worse for Kate than I do Jon because he just doesn't seem to care at all. She seems to still want a relationship, like when she said she is there "speaking for herself" and that she was there for her family and her kids. And he just said "yeah, I'm here for my kids." Forget the family. He seems like such a cocky jerk lately, and I'm really sick of seeing him. I mean, even look at the car he drives! Its like how much more juvenile can you get? He's going through a mid-life crisis. They are still to blame because they put themselves out there on television, and what the media wants, the media gets, truth or not. I just feel bad for them and their whole family. Having the show was a way for them to SUPPORT their family and document their unique little family, but it also exposed them and has now ruined them... Lesson learned maybe?

What I saw on last night's episode, was a very changed Kate from the one we met when this show started on Season 1. She hated to shop, now she parades around like a Hollywood star with designer handbags, jeans, make-up and so on. And where did that fake excessive laughter come from that we heard from her last night? I can see right through her. Her fame has gone to her head and her selfishness has tossed her entire family into this chaos. Kate has become arrogant, snotty and treats Jon like he is the hired hand and worse. She admits to feeling very angry... perhaps it's because Jon no longer asks "how high" when she tells him to jump. Kate hasn't a clue about other peoples feelings. She is so self-absorbed and it was obvious when most of the dialogue in last nights show was "me, me, me, I, I, I,". She makes me sick and now I must go to find some other show to watch on Monday nights. I'm done with this saga.

why oh why did john quit his job to stay home and help with the children? that was the beginning of the end of the marriage. kate had 24/7 to emotionally and verbally destroy him. you can't fight a woman like kate -- too strong and always right about everything. jon is a simple and good man who wants nothing but a normal life with his family. kate doesn't know which end is up with all the money and fame. she is a typical hollywood disaster that we have all watched happen through the years. jon--go back to work---kate, stay home with the children because i'll never buy your book ...you have plenty of help and the kids will soon be in school. stop dragging them everywhere--we're so sick of all the trips . you could go back to work as a nurse to help your patients recover quickly to get away from you...you are not a celebrity, never will be--you're a wife and mom and need to clean up your act. you always say "your kids are the most important thing to you"----you're wrong--it has to be "your marriage to jon has to be the most important" -- everything else will fall into it's right place. please work on not being such a control freak - it's not attractive and it certainly does't work.. i wish you both good luck--let jon be who he is -not what you want him to be. believe it or not, kids are supposed to get dirty and they make messes--and please stop dressing them all the same--they look like a litter of kittens.

I just don't understand why people choose to be so snide and judgemental of others. It seems to me that MOST of us should have our own family concerns and not worry about whether Jon & Kate mean what the say. The fact is yes they decided to do the show, yes they put themselves out there, but really would you want complete and total strangers condemning you for how you feel, how you say how you feel or what you really meant by what you said or did. It is ridiculous that anyone would even begin to know how someone else might feel by what they said or did. Get over yourselves people and whether they stay on TV or not, you have the freedom to watch it or don't watch it. Remember you live in the United States where you are given choices. Make your choice, but geez let them decide how they live their lives and in return I bet they will let you decide how to live yours.

If you do research you will find out that Jon and Kate have filled our living rooms and made their fortune on 1/2 truths. Yes they have changed, and though Kate plays the victim here, it is her that is letting greed, fame and selfishness destroy their life together. Material comforts cannot take the place of family and though she thinks that she is doing everything for her kids it is clear that the kids would give it all up to have 2 loving and respectful parents together, hands on (it appears that this is what Jon wants too)! Step out of the limelight, consider it a good run and fix your family - shame on TLC for allowing this destruction to happen just to boost ratings.

The people who buy into Kate's woe is me mantra and talk about leaving the family alone forget one thing.

They chose this. Two adults decided to put their life on television. Two adults decided to take the riches and fame of TV above raising their family. Kate blasts Jon because she was off doing what she is "supposed" to do, which in her mind is leaving her children behind to do public appearances and book signings.

They cast their lot and now - like so many others in similar situations - want to curse the fame they so selfishly sought.

I haven't watched the show more than in bits and pieces because he shrill and bitter personality is so horrifying, but I might start now because schadenfreude is so sweet when coupled with the egomania of those taking the fall.

I feel horrible for these kids, but maybe Jon and Kate should have had that feeling many, many months ago.

I was deeply disturbed by the season premiere last night. Is it just me or has Kate morphed?!?!?! The clothes...the sunglasses...the frequent use of 'paparazzi'? It's not the same show that premiered a few years back. I find it disgusting to watch this family's life implode on national television. The moral and ethical thing to do would be to let this family go...I would much rather them try to save their marriage in private. If its 'all about the kids', then work on staying together and problem solving. There was enough love there to bring 8 children into this world...turn the cameras off already. Disgusting.


The shwo is like a car crash and everyone slows on the highway to rubber neck. It isn't right but we are all guilty of doing it.

The show is sad now, watching two people who are clearly going through the motions. I believe that theya re sincerely continuing for their children-who wouldn't want to ensure the financial security and future of their children? Stop being so hard on them people...And as for exploitation and child labour-the children are not working and if you feel so strongly about it, you should lobby for the Hayes' and for the Duggars. !

It is sad to watch two people so distanced from one another go through the motions. It was pathetic how John bailed on the responsibilities of a child's birthday party. I don't know who did or said what...They are probably both guilty but I do, I do feel that John was not faithful. That is the worst kind of pain.

I think the children will be fine. As for the comment about the children showing aggression etc., erhm, THEY'RE FIVE. All siblings pull hair, yell etc. Gosh stop reading so much into it.

I don't know if I'l watch next week but what I do know is that the show should stop after this season-it seems the right thing to do as no one wants to watch a single mother with eight children no matter what financial bracket they are in.

Speaking to which, it doesn't matter how much moeny you have, there is no pain and nothing seems worse than a failing marriage. If Kate and John feel isolated and alone and overwhelmed-it is comparable to the pain and loss of a job etc.

As for John:
-He's behasving like an adolescent. I believe he cheated, he is frustrated that he didn't get to have fun in his twenties-get over it seriously, if you aren't happy staying at home with kids, then change it. Go out three days a week or work part time and get over your not even--mid life crisis. If you aren't happy with your life or wife, then go to counselling and make a decision. He should be ashsamed of himself. You decided to have children and get married and with that comes responsibility. Doesn't matter if you regret it. you did it!

Kate:
-Though seeming oppourtunistic and self absorbed, I think that she has OCD and germaphobia. Ah well, so do lots of people. I think that she is overwhelmed and beside herself...THe frustration and outbursts at John I think were a clear illustration of that. I think she is genuinely upset but at the same time, genuinely wants to continue her career and with her life and family. She does need to realize that the show has to end for her sanity. I don't think that John and Kate wil stay married. :(

PS-Did anyone else notice that in the intro where they usually say 'we're in this together' was removed?????

Could it be that this marriage problem is overhyped and not that big of a deal? I think Jon and Kate probably had a big blow up, but are probably fine and they are milking it for ratings.
I mean, she yelled at him just as much, "take off the glasses" etc.
and Jon took time away because Kate gets time away on the book tours.
I think we are being hoodwinked.

These kids are the next Michael Jackson. They'll be so messed up, that they'll bleach their skins and own a theme park and have a clone of Helen Keller's skeleton in their bedrooms.

Here's my question for Kate.
"just exactly what are you so mad about? " You have made your life what it is----you, you, you. Not Jon. Your children will forever be changed and not for the better if you divorce. You cannot raise them by yourself successfully. I know this for sure and so do all the other couch doctors who have watched you trying to destroy your family. get over yourself Kate, and get back to basics and be nice again if possible. Nobody likes you the way you are now.

They would have been much better off had they never agreed to be on t.v. I would much rather have a smaller house, my husband at work, and his dignitiy and self-esteem still intact, and my privacy. You cannot put a price on these things. But I do have to ask what is wrong with us as t.v. viewers that we waste time watching other people with their families instead of turning off the t.v. and participating with our own families. I know from now on I am limiting my viewing and spending more time with my husband and my children. Maybe even visit a lonely neighbor or clean out some closets. Life is too short to waste on shows such as this. I am much disappointed in TLC.

Most of this comments make me ill to say the list Kate is a little demanding but she is human and a mother of 8 kids and that is the hardest job anyone could have I had 4 kids and thought I would never have a life of my own I am praying for their marriage and kids and the show I do not think is hurting the kids they look very happy to me so leave them alone to solve their own private matters I love the show and all of my kids friends and family we will continue to watch you Kate you are doing a wonderful job and you deserve better comments I dont see anyone saying I have 8 kids and know how it is they do not know what they are talking about and Jon I know is got to be hard staying home but they are your kids maybe you should work a few days out of the house everybody needs a brake from babies I take care of my grandkids and also need a brake even though I love them so much good luck to all of you Hope the media leaves you alone enough to decide what to do and fix you are in my prayers

Even with all we've seen, and all that the kids have been put through, apparently Kate is negotiating with TLC for two more seasons. TLC has stipulated that marriage counseling is part of the deal...but no doubt they''ll be filming it. Granted this is from the National Enquirer, but no doubt it's true. Greedy Kate isn't walking away from $75k * 41 episodes.

I don't think marriage counseling carried out in front of the cameras has any chance of working. The kids are already affected by this...even the little ones. I wonder if the TLC deal will include counseling for the kids as well?

Time to pull the plug. Jon, just go get a job. Get your self-esteem back. You know on some level that you shouldn't be making money off of your kids... you should have a "real job."

Kate, your "job" is not to travel around and do book signings--your job is to be with your eight kids.

And please... can somebody tell me why any fertility doc gave them IVF for the twins after less than one year of trying (and less than one year of marriage)?? Talk all you want about Nadya Suleman...but it seems that her doctor's actions were just as unethical.

I was very saddened by last night's season premiere of Jon and Kate Plus 8. I found myself with mixed emotions. One minute I was angry with Jon or Kate for their attitudes and behavior, then I would feel sorry for them because they are two people with children in a crisis, whether by choice or not. I cannot say if I were in their shoes I wouldn't have taken the opportunity to do the show. It isn't cheap to raise three children, let alone 8! I am of the opinion that enough is enough and that last night's show is evidence it is time to stop. When children make comments about the paparazzi following them, that is disturbing, and who else is following them that they DON'T see? Thanks for an entertaining show about some adorable kids, but please, for the sake of your family, Jon and Kate, stop the insanity.

I cried for kate last night for the first time. Why? I'm not sure did I feel bad or was it my three glasses of wine? Jon is a baby, grow a spine and get out of this show for their sakes take your kids with you.Let kate and her hair have her own show.

Wow. I feel so bad for this family, because not only are they dealing with a cumbling marriage, they have 8 kids that they have to worry about, and now paps are following them around everywhere, and people are all over the internet saying that Jon is smart to get out, that Kate is a controlling witch and whatnot, and her tears are "fake" and she is "playing it up". I dont think anyone can act that well. Kate is clearly defeated, her marriage is crumbling and I think she is finally realizing the negative side of fame. That would make any human being break down. I hope for the sake of those kids that they will pull the show and try to work it out for the sake of their family. The kids are what really matters here, not Jon's issues with being married too soon, not Kates controlling issues or her hairdue that people seem obsessed over. There are 8 children involved, and I think instead of sitting here acting like we know everything about their entire lives and their entire relationship, we should focus on whats really important, like our own children.

i agree that Kate braught all this on herself...she is selfish...jon was always the one playing and having fun with the kids..all she ever did was complain about dirt and mess..she is too controlling..she must look back at the episodes an see how annoying she is...those poor kids....im glad he finally left her...i hope he gets those kids off tv and give them a normal life!!...she has to do nothing for herself..she has people cleaning her house and raising her kids now...she needs to wake up and realize its her that went wrong..all this has gone to her head..for god sakes think about the kids..she is so selfish!!!

Wake up Kate. Millions of women work, and you are lucky enough to have been a nurse, something that would help you pay your bills. Instead you are dragging your children through this torture telling yourself this is the only way you can pay your bills. Not true. Let go of the celebrity lifestyle now and focus on your family, something that is important. You would both do well to go back to real jobs and raise your kids like the rest of America. Get some counseling. and a grip on yourselves. Go back to helping others as a nurse, or was that too difficult to take care of someone besides yourself?

I too was very disappointed in last nights show. Kate did not look like the same person. Both Jon and Kate need to step back and privately try to work through the myriad of issues they both have for the sake of the kids. I was a single mom for 12 years and I did not have the resources to have big birthday parties and live in a big house...and have all the other perks. I'm sorry Kate but you do not get my pity. It's time to go home and live life like normal people. I have friends that have 8 children and they did it themselves.

PLEASE! ppl who are talking crap about these ppl are just jealous. Leave these ppl ARE regular ppl just like us but they are different, they have 8 kids. most of you bitch and complain about 1. So shut your mouth and get over yourselves. If you do not like them then dont listen to there issues and stop writing bout it on the net.

I was going to post my response to all the people who are so mean... however after reading this article and a few of the early posts, it seems as though people either get-it or they don't!... you can relate or you don't. Why are we all wasting our time writing our thoughts about this. Actually it's quite funny that many people are writing about " why do Jon and/or Kate think they're so special or that anyone cares what they have to say"... do they not realize the irony as they post THEIR thoughts on the matter! LOL

First, I have been a faithful follower of Jon & Kate Plus 8 for YEARS! I have read their book, "Multiple Blessings" and have really enjoyed getting to know this family as much as one can through the public eye. However, that being said, last night was so very sad to me! It was a lot like a train wreck, you did not want to watch, but you could not turn away from it. They have so many problems, it is hard to know where to start. I say, get out of the TLC contract, get some serious marriage counseling, get the Lord back into their marriage and put the focus back on each other instead of serving themselves. I think people need to PRAY for them instead of being so judgemental of them. No one is perfect! They have it even harder than most of us with their issues being blasted on television and it the tabloids! I say, you do not know what someone is going through until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Pray, do not judge. Their children need them. They are the innocent ones in all of this. Someone needs to give them the book "Lovedare."

I am a Marine Wife, my husband came back from his last deployment and was diagnosed with TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury). For anyone who knows anything about the condition, keeping a marriage together is tough for us. But we do it, just as Jon and Kate can. Jon and Kate both made mistakes in their marriage, neither really more strong then the other. I believe if their heart is in each other and keeping their family together it's going to take a lot of work and adjusting on both their parts. Kate made some poor decisions on how she treated Jon, which may have driven him to make his poor decisions which ultimately he did make so only he can be responsible for. Marriage is about adjusting and growing together no matter what direction you're going...it's also about communicating, and maybe the cameras are responsible for Jon's lack of communication about the way she's treated him prior to the point where he made a poor decision. But still, marriage takes work, a lot of it. When my husband came home from Iraq with TBI he was a completely different man, but someone who I loved. I adjusted and we've adjusted together to make sure our lives together weren't jeoperdized. Jon & Kate can pull it through if they took their vows seriously...it might mean giving up things, such as book tours and time alone away from each other and more time together talking. Trust will have to be re-earned, but that comes with sacrifices on both parts.

Jon from what I see of him has such a sweet soul, but what man can tolorate such bashing from his wife. She corrects every single thing he saids. From what I am seeing in her eyes he isn't perfect. I am surprise he sticks around this long. Kate is a control freak. She needs to loosen up. Stop shelting the boys. What happen to the extended family? Grandparents? Aunts? and Uncles? Whta happen to all those friends she had in the beginning. I can bet Kate is the one that pushed all these people away.
She said they are drifting apart and they have become different people. Kate have change from a woman who didn't even know how to put her own wardrobe together to someone who is more fame and money hungry.
For the sake of the children they need to both step away from the show and get some councelling.

There is no future for this marriage, because Kate wants what Kate wants, but he is already the father and there is nothing she can do to change that. I feel sad for him sometimes the ways she talks and barks orders to him. Who needs that?

I cannot stand Kate. She is nothing special and I think that Jon is stupid for putting up with her and not saying anything. She should believe him when he says he did not cheat.


She lived in a trailer and now a mansion. Kick her back to her trailer park. I hate white trash.

I have to say that TLC hit an all time low last night. Kate literally made the show all about her and how tired she is. Someday when the kids are older, I would venture to say it's not going to be something that she's proud of.
The thing that really got to me was the commercial about next week's episode and taking Maddy to a spa in LA. What mother in her right mind who's really in touch with her daughter's feelings and aware of the true severity of what she (Kate) has done to fan the flame, take her 9 year old daughter to a spa for God's sake!!!
At any rate, neither one of them really have a CLUE has to what their kids are in for, but I honestly have to say that the radical change in Kate's appearance speaks volumes about how much time she devotes to herself.

I have to say that TLC hit an all time low last night. Kate literally made the show all about her and how tired she is. Someday when the kids are older, I would venture to say it's not going to be something that she's proud of.
The thing that really got to me was the commercial about next week's episode and taking Maddy to a spa in LA. What mother in her right mind who's really in touch with her daughter's feelings and aware of the true severity of what she (Kate) has done to fan the flame, take her 9 year old daughter to a spa for God's sake!!!
At any rate, neither one of them really have a CLUE has to what their kids are in for, but I honestly have to say that the radical change in Kate's appearance speaks volumes about how much time she devotes to herself.

David,
Articles like yours keep the show rolling. The public will not stop thinking, talking, and blogging about Jon and Kate. Greedy TLC, dubbed the "Torturing Little Children" network, cashes in on our compulsion. Perhaps one day a judge will step in with a nice, fat cease-and-desist, but the damage is already done. Aaden, Alexis, Collin, Leah, Joel, Hannah, Mady & Cara can will never again have a chance for a normal existence.

"Jon & Kate Plus 8" works exactly like a major car accident. Accidents are horrible and frightening, with often disastrous results. And when accidents happen, every, single driver in front of you can't help but to slow down and stare at the wreckage-passing judgement on the "idiot" who caused all this traffic.

So you curse these rubbernecking drivers, wondering why they don't have the common sense to realize that THEY are the ones causing the backup! Until it's your turn. And then you have to stop, look, and comment.......

As long as there is money to be made, the show will go on, and the poor kids will suffer for it. And it's us, the rubbernecking public, who are to blame.

David, it's our own fault, and God help these kids.

Someone needs quickly to help Mady and Hannah - they both have anger and control issues already. How can Kate claim to be all about her children when she is gone for 8 weeks at a time on a tour to promote herself? And why did she need her "bodyguard" at the birthday party?? The only thing she wants to continue is her "stardom" and the money. She has shown she doesn't need or want Jon. The clip I just saw for the next show has Kate on the beach in California because she needed some "away time". TLC should cancel this show now!

I watched the show in the beginning and then quit watching when every show turned into a trip to a fabulous place for free. I tuned in last night out of curiosity. Interesting that Kate tells the kids to hurry out of their seatbelts because the paparrazzi is already there, but then makes the kids call them "p." I'm guessing Jon isn't even staying with them anymore because of the "break" "planning alone" and "driving separately" stuff.
I think you can tell by their body language at the party and in the few together interviews that it is pretty much over. Maybe now it is really a reality show! And, actually, for the first time in a long time I thought a lot of the Kate stuff seemed real. Not so much for Jon. He wants to bail, big time.

OK that was my last Jon & Kate viewing! Gahhhh.. I am soo sick of Kate! She is phonier than ever. What a pity party. Poor, poor Kate, complains about the 'paparazzi', yet clearly she is quite delighted that they are there.. more tabloid stories! Ka-ching,ka-ching. I always felt bad for Jon, she treats him like the 7th sextuplet. At the end of the show, Jon & Kate both said they they were there 'for the children'.. neither one said they were there for the other.. they need to go their separate ways. And I need to find something else to watch on Monday nights..

We all need to understand that this is TV, and things will be edited to boost ratings. It is very sad that Kate and Jon's marriage is having problems. My heart goes out to both of them. Each one has valid reasons, feelings etc..that are real. Some may think Jon is so layed back and Kate is so over the top, but remember they knew this about each other before they got married and even remarried. I just hope that they find their way back to each other stronger and even more committed! I always admired their comment that they were in this together and this was their life. I just hope they dig deep down and take time to sort things out. We need to also remember they are REAL people with REAL problems and REAL FEELINGS! Instead of validating one side versus the other we all need to pray for the family that we have come to be very fond of.

I never really watched the show regularly, but like so many others, I tuned in last night to see the train wreck that has become Jon & Kate.

This situation is pathetic. Jon & Kate shouldn't be airing their marital woes in front of the whole country. Kate & TLC should be ashamed for using this situation to milk the ratings.

If these two dorks really cared about their marriage and the well-being of their children, they would end the show and privately seek marital counseling.

It was really very sad to watch.

"Jon has been verbally abused by Kate for years ... He even mentioned last night that "some people" (he meant Kate) say he can't talk or even breath right.

I remember the episode where she made fun of him because of the way he breathes.

I don't condone anyone cheating in their marriage, but she TOTALLY pushed him away."

You are absolutely right. I don't watch this show at all and the one thing that struck me from the few clips I see on The Soup is that she really treats John like crap.

I saw the confusion, sadness and hurt in those children's eyes.
Divorce is really about unforgiveness non-acceptance and is really ugly lesson for these children to learn and live with. All those children want is for their Mommy and Daddy to love each other and get along and be together.

Hey Jon, At least you could have supported the local economy by purchasing a car made in america. In times when so many are losing their jobs, Jon and kate sure picked a fine time to complain about hard times.

It is time to get off of the tv and live your life in private. I am a retired teacher (38 years) and have dealt with the divorce of many students' parents. These children are already feeling the "ill will" between mom and dad. I would say they feel it everytime mom belittles dad or yells at him on screen. The sadness on their faces is palpable.

For those people who accuse John of loving the spotlight too much seem to forget that he said in the Season 4 finale that he DIDN'T want to do the show anymore while Kate did!!! That being said, they need to end this show after this season, and get themselves into counseling. Last night's show was tough to watch.

jon didnt mind all the pubicity when he was getting all his hair plugs. taking all his trips to utah skiing.getting all new clothes.pretty big house for someone that dosent work..sad when one of little ones said how she missed him and wish he would stay home...

I feel this whole thing is very said I love this show. I never understood the whole thing about Kate and how she talk to Jon like he is a nobody he share 8 kids with u and can't give him the respect of a human being. It sadden me to watch the little girl hung her father and say I don't want you to leave again. We have to ask ourselves should to leave if you were treated that way by someone on the camera or off give the blame where blame is do. Kate can only blame herself for a broken marriage and her husband want to be away from her to get a peace of mind. I know they both love their children but what is the amount you will take to think how are my kids going to handle this when they get older and people come up to them asking question. Kate it's not about money, it is about respect for your husband and your children and you lost all sense of it. I will keep this family in my prays because at this point that is the only best advice I can give.

OMG - elax people. Take it for what it is! Reality TV...I mean seriously, I am sure 100% of you already watch merican Idol and that other beast Dancing with the Stars. Its what we love to hate. So they are having marital problems, the ratings are through the roof, so al you haters, are keeping it in the top TV realm of reality.
Maybe if you stopped trying to be so difficult, you would see this is actually decent television, as real or fake as it may be, this show proves to have somehow kept some awseom spomsors wanting more and audience member like those of you complaining have no room to talk. You are the ones watcjing just as much as people like me who actually enjoy this family drama. Isn't that what we are into? Just relax and stop complaining you love it.

What if this is some big, sick publicity stunt? I think Kate saw the drama as an opportunity to gain ratings and to make herself look like a victim after all these years of looking like a giant b----. I have a feeling Jon had enough after the four years and asked her to finally end the show, she became infuriated at the possibility of losing the opportunity to flash her insanity, crazy hair cut and fake tan on TV - and devised a ploy to make him look bad and herself look like a victim - and have ratings skyrocket. The kids will be in school full time shortly, a show can't go on forever, and what then kate? What will happen when no one wants to buy a book from a washed up reality star? You are going to be the next Dina Lohan ruining those innocent children's lives all so you can make money off of them and get to live the life you couldn't make for yourself. Jon is no innocent victim at all - he chose this, he chose to walk around like a puppy while Kate barked at him and treated him like less than a child, he chose not to man up and he chose to hang out with a 23 year old. But how easy would it have been for Kate to know where he was and call papparazzi? Does anyone else see how she treats her children? Acting like she is bothered by them--and admitting the kids watch the show, what happens when they are all old enough to see that mommy pushed daddy away? Kate is nothing more than the trailer park girl who won the lottery.

OMG - Relax people. Take it for what it is! Reality TV...I mean seriously, I am sure 100% of you already watch American Idol and that other beast Dancing with the Stars, even worse Survivor. Its what we love to hate on - Reality. But, this family is deliriously watchable! After 8 kids and struggles, and makeovers, and quitting jobs, organizing schedules, family vacations, meltdown by children and adults - they are having marital problems-CHEATING! The ratings are through the roof, so all you haters, are keeping it in the top TV realm of reality.
Maybe if you stopped trying to be so difficult, you would see this is actually decent television, as real or fake as it may be, this show proves to have somehow kept some amazing sponsors wanting more and not to mention a huge amount of viewers and fans. You are going to definitely continue watching just as much as people like me - why? Becasue we actually enjoy this family drama. Isn't that what we are into? Just relax and stop complaining you love it.

Yes, it is time for US ALL to find someone or something else to rag on about. Give these folks a friggen break and let them get back to as normal a life as is possible. Really people, so much hatred just brings us all down. Enough is enough.

I think that Kate and Jon should give up the show and concentrate on their children. When I had young children it would have been nice to have nice clothes, a big beautiful house and nice cars but my children and husband came first. It is frustrating to want to do things on your own with out having to worry about your children but that is the choice that everyone makes when they have children. There will be time for yourselfs when your children are older. A lot has been said on how you treat Jon and I understand that could be do to the pressure of that many children but again that was the choice that you both made. Think of your children and yourselfs and give up the show and work things out and maybe you can do a show once a year.

I watched this show the entire weekend and became very disgusted with Kate. She talks to her husband like he's one of her children. Kate needs to learn to respect herself and also her husband as a man. What other man would take her constant "talking down" to him? Kate you are very imature and seem to think it's all about YOU. You have a great husband that is a great father. Stop teaching your little girls to treat men as if they are stupid. This is not a good example for your little boys either. You are so blessed to have Jon and you need to realize that. Don't be so arrogant that you push him away. He is not perfect and Lord knows you are not.I wonder if you have any real girlfriends that love you enough to tell you the truth about yourself. Try to save your marriage NOW before it's too late girl! Put your bossy behavior in the trash and save your marriage!

FYI: The word "like" only has one i. And I recently lost my job, but I still wouldn't trade places with Jon or Kate.

I used to really enjoy watching this show--it seemed more of a documentary at that time, but now it's become a docudrama. Because of the way TLC capitalized on their marriage problems around the sextuplet's birthday party, the two adults appeared self absorbed and victimized. Did they not realize the risk they were taking when signing up for this show? Also, where are the ethics of TLC ? I expected better from this channel. Now it's just voyueristic and somehow we all feel entiled to talk about these people as if we know them, but we don't. We only know an edited version, and at this point someone, TLC, Jon and Kate, or an advocate for the children who are objective enough to see past their own pain, need to stop this show. They need to recuperate as a family, and I hope it's not through divorce. At the end, it seems like this couple got married way too early, had too many children too fast, and now are struggling with the changes this show has brought on. Too many changes too fast, but hopefully they can remember the love that brought them together and see if it can endure all of these changes together with a belief in each other, as husband and wife, and for their adorable children--off camera.

I think kate needs to pull her head out of her a**. Her family is way more important that a little bit of fame. She loves the fame, john doesnt. If her and john dont come to some sort of consensus their going to lose their family.

This is only my opinion, but, when you belittle someone over and over, (as Kate has done with Jon), it chips away a little at a time until there is nothing left. Her constant correcting and put downs, were just too much to endure. Kate needed some hefty marriage counciling as well as personal counciling to learn why she thought she must blast away at the one person that was supposed to mean the most to her....her husband. God intended us to treat our spouses with respect, love and honor, even through the squabbles. You can see from very early on, that the attitude that Kate displayed was nothing like this. I do not know of anyone that would continue to be a satisified loving supportive partner with treatment like this. The example she set for her children in the manner in which she openly continually put down her husband (and THEIR father) is one that is devistating to young impressionable hearts and minds. This story is a tragedy, and I pray that they will seek top notch professional help. Kate, please be aware of how words can tear down a human heart and put a tremendous gut wrenching wedge between relationships.

Thanks for the post above shannon stephens. I agree with you and thank you for your positive insight.

I don't think the problems started here in their marriage. I do however think they have had problems (like all of us that are married do) in the first season. We just got to see all of it. I think the communication problems that they had way back (that I too laughed at) then have only been magnified as they are going through this trial in their lives. And because they did not work on the right ways to communicate then, they are grasping at straws at what to do now. And trust me ignoring the problem will not make it go away.

I for one would love if they went to marriage counseling and we got to see how people try to fix their marriages - as opposed to hearing they just got a divorce and gave up. I want to watch them try to salvage their marriage and perhaps to learn something from them that would help my husband and I in our own marriage.

I too was sad for them in watching the premiere, but I do not think anyone should berate them for their choices to do a TV show. Or say mean things about them because you think you know them after seeing hour snapshots of their lives. Newsflash - they are not PERFECT and neither are we. Just forgiven :)

sara | May 26, 2009 9:27 AM - no one "gave them IVF". There was no IVF.

Kate had established ovulation problems related to polycystic ovarian syndrome, and had required medical intervention before to conceive.

Doctors used a medical intervention of shots to promote ovulation. Docs inadvertandly hyperstimulated her ovaries. Conception occurred the "usual" way, but there were so many eggs a high-order multiple pregnancy resulted.

IVF is far more expensive than the hormonal stimulation, and has the advantage of real control over the number of embryos in any given cycle.

these people are such hypocrites they say they are sooooo religious and thats why they wouldn't induce when they found out they were having 6 babies , but guess what? the same god who wont let u Induce is the god u took ure voes in front of "for better or for worse" so if u are so religions u should work on ure marige and make that ure top priority .
and that stupid kate acts like her life is so dificult cuz she has 8 kids , well i think most people on my block have it harder then u working 2 jobs to pay the bils and not loose our houses and rasing our 3 or 4 kids cuz we dont have some show who payes 4 all that,
one more thing if u keep saying in all the interviews that u only worte the book 4 the kids and could care lwss if it sold just 1 copy i ask why dd u have to put them throgh this make them a scrapbook like most moms

So glad to hear the consensus is get rid of them. Last night's show was the worst drivel Kate's ever spewed. For once, Jon almost seemed human. I don't condone his behavior whether he "cheated" or not but he seems to not like himself too much either. He did appear hungover. I hope booze and/or drugs won't be his solutions. Their accoutrements drive me nuts and his car was over the top. Then, I remember he's only thirty and thinks he's a man of the world. Certainly smarter than Kate. Speaking of whom, I hope she's made enough so that she can quit the show and spend the rest of her days in spas which (I believe) she stated is her life's goal and she is always SO tired. What was with all the second wedding to show "our children we'll always be together." For crying out loud, where's Children's Services when you need them. I can't bear anymore of it either. That show was the final blow. Jon, get a job! Take the children away from Kate and ask your mother to help you raise them. Go make something of yourself. I suspect the basics are in you. Stop seeing yourself as some kind of adolescent heart throb and realize you must DO something. Criminey, you didn't even really conceive all these children but they are more important than sports cars, hair implants, white teeth, and sunglasses. BE RESPONSIBLE! Get a shrink and get help for Mady before her man-hating mother completely destroys her. Oh, I get too angry! Bring on DINNER FOR TWELVE??? Any bets on how long that'll last? Thanks.

So glad to hear the consensus is get rid of them. Last night's show was the worst drivel Kate's ever spewed. For once, Jon almost seemed human. I don't condone his behavior whether he "cheated" or not but he seems to not like himself too much either. He did appear hungover. I hope booze and/or drugs won't be his solutions. Their accoutrements drive me nuts and his car was over the top. Then, I remember he's only thirty and thinks he's a man of the world. Certainly smarter than Kate. Speaking of whom, I hope she's made enough so that she can quit the show and spend the rest of her days in spas which (I believe) she stated is her life's goal and she is always SO tired. What was with all the second wedding to show "our children we'll always be together." For crying out loud, where's Children's Services when you need them. I can't bear anymore of it either. That show was the final blow. Jon, get a job! Take the children away from Kate and ask your mother to help you raise them. Go make something of yourself. I suspect the basics are in you. Stop seeing yourself as some kind of adolescent heart throb and realize you must DO something. Criminey, you didn't even really conceive all these children but they are more important than sports cars, hair implants, white teeth, and sunglasses. BE RESPONSIBLE! Get a shrink and get help for Mady before her man-hating mother completely destroys her. Oh, I get too angry! Bring on DINNER FOR TWELVE??? Any bets on how long that'll last? Thanks.

I watched last night's episode and I have to say, I found it disgusting. I really feel that Kate, in her arrogant, sick world, thought she could keep the charade of a marriage going to fool the viewers. Once Kevin and Jodi started talking about how their marriage was a sham, she realized she had to cave in and 'fess up. She will do anything for fame and fortune.

I watched last night's episode and I have to say, I found it disgusting. I really feel that Kate, in her arrogant, sick world, thought she could keep the charade of a marriage going to fool the viewers. Once Kevin and Jodi started talking about how their marriage was a sham, she realized she had to cave in and 'fess up. She will do anything for fame and fortune.

Jon and Kate, all I can say is take it from someone that has gone through what you are experiencing right now, you are not doing it for the kids, if anything you are hurting the kids. Their aggression is getting worse and it will continue to get worse. These years are their development years and they are like sponges and they are absorbing everything you are doing whether you think they know what is going on or not. Don't under estimate those kids, because they do know, I could see it in last nights episode. Take a hint from Alexis, she said," I don't want you to leave anymore". Jon and Kate get off the show and take care of your family in private. When you do that the "P" people will go away and Kate you do have a good husband and father of your kids that is there for them and you. Not everyone has that believe me. When you ask Jon to do something, he does it for you, mostly with no argument. My ex-husband would have hit me or got in my face for talking to him like that. I have 7 children and would have had 8 but we lost our daughter at birth. I pray to god that you two can work things out and Kate take it easy on Jon, there are not many men out there that would put up with the way you talk to Jon the way you do.

Her brother, Kevin mentioned that Kate believes herself as a talk show host and it seems like she is using her family to get there (book tour, hollywood fashion & poor acting). This is not about "Jon&Kate+8"... This is all about "Kate using Jon+8"

Wow! People are harsh....yes this is a reality show and I agree with some of the comments concerning the kids and the downward spiral of Jon and Kate's marriage, but it sounds to me like a lot of the comments are coming from jealousy.

Although this is a "reality" show, there is a huge part of J & K's life that the world doesn't see and to make judgements based on what little we do see (which is still trying to be focused on the kids by the way), I think is selfish and we're only doing it to make ourselves feel better.

They asked for this yes, but do we as a society really need to make this worse for them by our false judgements and snide comments? They say that reality TV is the downfall of any family, but I think it's the people watching who ultimately crush these reality TV shows and the people involved in them.

... The apartment he (Jon) supposedly lives in above the garage is probably better than most homes. Go cry us a river Jon... and get on with your life, you poor, vicitmized millionaire. Why don't you volunteer your time at a homeless shelter, and see what hard times really are like.

I think what's most disconcerting to me (besides this marriage drama) is having to watch Kate sit there in her million dollar home complain about how exhausted she is after putting some candy in pinatas and assembling gift boxes. I've seen families with three mentally handicapped children or families with parents who both lost their job complain significantly less than she does. Does anyone really believe Kate is doing this on her own anymore? There are most likely nannies, chefs, housekeepers...so who is she trying to fool? And who at TLC decided that in this economic state that people are going to feel sympathy for this woman who gets payed to pimp out her kids and "co-author" books about them? This entire episode was an attempt to garner sympathy for Kate and unfortunately, it probably worked.

As for the comments that say we shouldn't judge them and give them their privacy, I can't really take that suggestion seriously when these two people who are clearly having issues are broadcasting their problems on television. You can't complain about the media not giving you privacy while in the same breath giving an interview to People magazine about the details of your marriage falling apart. I don't know the stats on the show but I'm guessing Jon and Kate Plus 8 is TLC's most popular show and I have a hard time believing that if Jon and Kate went to TLC and said "we don't want to discuss our marriage, this should be about the kids, not us, this is private" that TLC wouldn't respect that. I'm sure Jon and Kate were right there in the meeting when it was decided that the marriage issues would be on the show with dollar signs in their eyes.


Keep those crocodile tears coming, Kate. Maybe you'll lose your husband and your family, but lord knows there's another book deal and Lifetime movie in your future and that's probably what you've always wanted.

Here here, Mary Ann!

I think what's most disconcerting to me (besides this marriage drama) is having to watch Kate sit there in her million dollar home complain about how exhausted she is after putting some candy in pinatas and assembling gift boxes. I've seen families with three mentally handicapped children or families with parents who both lost their job complain significantly less than she does. Does anyone really believe Kate is doing this on her own anymore? There are most likely nannies, chefs, housekeepers...so who is she trying to fool? And who at TLC decided that in this economic state that people are going to feel sympathy for this woman who gets payed to pimp out her kids and "co-author" books about them? This entire episode was an attempt to garner sympathy for Kate and unfortunately, it probably worked.

As for the comments that say we shouldn't judge them and give them their privacy, I can't really take that suggestion seriously when these two people who are clearly having issues are broadcasting their problems on television. You can't complain about the media not giving you privacy while in the same breath giving an interview to People magazine about the details of your marriage falling apart. I don't know the stats on the show but I'm guessing Jon and Kate Plus 8 is TLC's most popular show and I have a hard time believing that if Jon and Kate went to TLC and said "we don't want to discuss our marriage, this should be about the kids, not us, this is private" that TLC wouldn't respect that. I'm sure Jon and Kate were right there in the meeting when it was decided that the marriage issues would be on the show with dollar signs in their eyes.


Keep those crocodile tears coming, Kate. Maybe you'll lose your husband and your family, but lord knows there's another book deal and Lifetime movie in your future and that's probably what you've always wanted.

Although the prayer schedule featured on the link below has the Gosselin's with 24/7 prayer coverage, there's always more room to remember this family in the coming days as the media and others continue their campaign of gossip and hate.

http://richardtgarner.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-can-honestly-say-jon-is-my-best.html

Jon is a total loser. Kate has been putting up with his can't keep a job crap, immaturity and laziness for years. It just started to wear her down in the last year or so. I bet she defended him to her family and friends, causing a rift. How many times have we seen this with young women (and men) dating losers that their families hate only making them alienate themselves for their loser loved one. I used to not like Kate all that much but it's obvious she has been putting up a front concerning this jerk she married twice. It's a hard lesson to learn but she has learned it. We slam Kate for working which many do work away from their families. If Jon were the one out there doing that, would anyone slam him? No. He's a guy and she's supposed to be at home. That's BS. That's what I see here. Have you noticed that when she's out of town working, he's out boozing. When he's out of town, she's at home with her kids. He's totally at fault for his actions. He's an adult even if he acts like a child.

I think it's jon who is alway rolling his eyes at his wife and making little stabbing comments at Kate. Yes she seems to be a control freak...butcan you imagine having 8 kids (with 6 of them under 5) you would have to be highly organized and a bit of a contol freak to pull off raising all of them. I think she is doing a pretty good job. The show is kind of dumb, but I like watching the little ones. Just because it's a "reality" t.v. show, doesn't mean any of it is real (except the kids) can't fake that!

TLC should be ashamed! This family is crying out for help. I will never watch this show again. Reality TV is not reality, and just ruins every family.

I felt sick on my stomach after watching, i felt like i had been tricked. I want a refund on my book multiple blessings. Kate needs to get over the Fame that has gotten to her.

I am boycotting the show and TLC!

What is wrong with people -- you come on here and blast 2 people who you don't even know personally and say that they should do this or that. Until you walk in anothers shoes don't decide what is the best route for them or their family.

If you don't like the show, there is a simple solution, don't watch the show.

People wouldn't be honest if they said that their own personal relationships behind closed doors are not without flaws. We just got to see Jon and Kate's marriage as if we were involved.

Obviously Kate has a strong personality, usually one person in the marriage does, and Jon's personality is frusterating to her when she is trying to get the everyday household stuff organized and done in a timely fashion. If Jon could have been an equal partner to Kate from the get go she wouldn't have had to be so bossy, but he was usually like a ninth child for her to look after.

I hope that the show stays on for years to come so that we can continue to watch the kids grow up and I am praying that they can work out their marital issues and stay together.

This show is just downright DEPRESSING! I feel silly I even watched really. In the beginning they were normal everyday people, it's just so superficial now, big house, vacations, fake hair, fake nails, having "staff".....is this reality? NOPE! Take if off the air PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This show is just downright DEPRESSING! I feel silly I even watched really. In the beginning they were normal everyday people, it's just so superficial now, big house, vacations, fake hair, fake nails, having "staff".....is this reality? NOPE! Take if off the air PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have watched the show from the beginning, and after re-watching each episode over the 3 day weekend, it became very apparent that Kate has always believed Jon would end up leaving her and the kids one day. It's like she says, that the kids birthday is a sign of how far they've made it, and not just about another age. Kate is overbearing at times, and she does harass Jon...alot. But just the same, he married her, knowing this was Kate, she is controlling, she is a perfectionist, and she wants things done now and done right. I think that without the kind of mom Kate is, the family would have been in shambles a long time ago. She keeps things running she gets things done, which is the exact opposite of Jon's personality. It looks like things headed south when Jon quit his job. He was hot tempered, didn't know how to properly discipline his children, and snapping at Kate more than usual. To Jon work was his getaway, his sanctuary. Well newsflash, when you're married, when you have kids, you can't just check out. You don't get days off, and bar hopping, hanging out with random "girlfriends" is a thing of the past. You try harder to be a better dad, and you put all that stuff aside for your kids, and for your marriage. If Jon is so great and Kate got what was coming, Jon should have been the bigger person. No one deserves to be cheated on, because those who are saying "that's what she gets..." it not only affects her it affects the 8 children. Whose side do you think they'll take, "yes mommy was mean, but daddy is the one that left us". That's what they'll be thinking. Only to affirm what Kate thought would always happen. In the end Jon would quit, he would give up and leave.
I for one am hoping the pull through that they get past all this, that they come out of it a stronger happier family. I also hope that people will stop judging them as much, stop acting like they have any idea what they go through, and be more supportive, instead of trying to drag them down with their insults and negativity. How would one feel if it was your family, and you think of yourself as normal, as a good parent. And that every fight you go through with your spouse, there's millions of people putting their two-cents in, like they have any idea what is really going on.
At the end of the day, Kate being verbally abusive, Jon cheating, they are doing something so right with those kids. They are so loved, so bright, and intelligent, each have their own personalities, and so eager to learn and love on anyone in contact with them. They all love each of their siblings, their parents, and their crew, they're healthy and energetic. Those parents have raised them better than most of the people I know with kids.
Why is it in America we like to drag others down. We want to see them fail, just for the sake of failing. Instead of judging people you don't know, how about we support them, and help them get through this tough time.

Did anyone else notice last night how Kate kept trying to tell us and Jon, how he is doing, acting, reacting, thinking, etc??? She is so much about blaming others for HER issues. If I hear her say one more time " Jon is handling things poorly", I think I'll scream. Look in the mirror Kate.... your behavior isn't pretty.

I suggest everyone write Discover/TLC and tell them how you feel, I thought it was depressing too. So I sent a message to TLC. If I wanted to be depressed I'd watch the news.

They make it very difficult to leave feedback - but here's the link in case anyone is interested...

http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations

...Like people REALLY think about other people losing their jobs when they are going through hard times THEMSELVES.
That is rediculous.

wow. no matter what, society continues to blame the women in the relationship when things in the family dont work. Jon knew who he was marrying and vice versa. It looks as if Jon is straying - yet Kate is getting most, if not all the blame. I am not saying she appears to be a dream to live with - but who is? She really hasnt changed that much since the beginning of the show - she is a control and organization freak. He knew that when he married her. Having 8 kids seems to have exagerrated those personality traits. But, they chose to have 8 children, and they owe it to their children to try to make the family work. More than anything - that is what they owe their kids - not a big house, not a nice car, not a great vacation.

I could not get over the fact that the show last night felt like a marriage counselor session. She looks like she is in it for the money, but says she is in it for the kids and he looks like he was just out of it. They really should pull this show. Give it up. You guys had a good run now it is over and we find that it was not reality at all. How could you continue to expose your kids to this.

Ugh. Your snotty remark "Is it really, Kate?" seriously makes me detest you. The show started out as a fun family show and was ruined when the husband wanted a little action on the side. Everyone is complaining that Kate is just a witch, but she's doing what mothers have done for centuries. Take care of the kids while the husband runs off to party and feel young again. My guess is you are the type of guy who would run off so that is why you are rolling your eyes at Kate.

"I suspect the prospect of seeing a marriage crack up brick by brick in front of your eyes is just the kind of reality-TV "pleasure" that might keep some viewers tuning in week after week this season -- and some of the advertisers paying top cable dollar to be part of it.

But not me -- at least not given the way I feel now. I suppose I will have to come back next Monday because the episode features a trip to Baltimore's Charm City Cakes."

... "I'm too good for this crap but I'll keep watching"

Lame.

Jon...don't leave those kids. You are the only one who shows them love..kissing, hugging, riding on a tractor. It's sad that Jon said "I just want my wife back" and he got this full-of-herself bitch in designer clothing. I had 2 kids and my hair looked like I slept in it and my duds usually had cereal etc all over them. While here she is in sundress etc.
What a sham!

Old Indian saying…don’t criticize someone until you’ve walked in their moccasins.

These are two young kids who had 8 children within a short period of time. He was not working (for whatever reasons) and she had OCD on top of all that. We can complain about her obsessiveness, however, in order to feed, cloth and handle 8 children she needed those organization skills.

He was young and certainly not ready for 8 children. They were nearly broke; this opportunity came along and they saw a way out of their dilemma. I defy anyone to say they would have sat down and maturely thought through the offer to have a TV special and make some money.

How they both handled this instant stardom is what you saw last night. Their children are not abused, unhappy, aggressive or anything else other than normal 5 year old children. They now have friends outside the home and they certainly smiled a lot last night.

For all the “he said,” “she said,” scandals going on in the press, I notice that the US magazine has sold more magazines in the last month than they ever had, along with the People, etc. We continue to berate them with all sorts of solutions and the word “hate” is passed around more than needed.

Step back, pray they find the way back to themselves. And understand they are young with 8 children to support and no other real means of support once its over. Give them both a little leeway. Who among us has not made mistakes?

I think we have no ideal of what is really happening off camera. There are two people hurting and in pain and trying to act like adults in a very difficult position. My heart goes out to the kids and their Mommy & Daddy. I agree the show needs to go away so the family can get to work on reviving itself if possible. The best things in life take the most work and require the most attention.

BOYCOTT THE SHOW! Save the Children! Pass it On!

Here's the thing...they both are wrong for the mess they have created, all for the sake of their children. The children are the ones who ultimately suffer for their parent's behaviors.

First, Kate is a control freak. She has fits when things are not done in the manner SHE deems as correct. She appears to be very inflexible and unfortunately for Jon, anything he says or does has not been, nor will be up to her standard...unless she makes some changes.

Now Jon, he's very much opposite of Kate. He appears to be much more lax than Kate. He doesn't appear to put in nearly the same effort as Kate when it comes to caring for the children. At the same time that may be because of all of the belittling and degrading he has felt at the mouth of his wife. However with all he may have felt, it was completely wrong for him to allow himself to become involved with another woman. He may deny any infidelity, however his actions have jeopardized his marriage and his children's welfare.

What should have happened long before it got to this point was for Jon and Kate to say, "we need a break from the cameras." The series could have been put on hiatus for a while. Jon and Kate need to see a therapist, pastor, someone who is non-biased, non-judgmental who can guide them into rational, supportive, adult communication with each other. They both need to express their feelings to each other, about each other...good and bad. If they have any faith in their love, value their marriage, and want the best for their children, then they will do whatever is necessary. If their marriage doesn't work out, then it wouldn't be for lack of trying.

kate guet a life

Cassie and all other unmarried sad women with no children who have no idea what a Godfearing marriage should be.Let me help you--- OK so you agreed to do a T.V. show---a real down to earth couple.....Kate! you cannot berate your husband on public television....he publicly did good by those kids---Kate did as well...pray that they save their marriage and children by opting out of television now--there is no other way---Jon isn't running from home life; he is running from the circus life---no man could stand that but for so long...& yes, he didn't quit his job;he was let go and tried to work at home but with cameras in your face all day---oh well...the blame is on neither one but the resolution is both their responsibilities---let the fame go---save your marriage,save your children and walk away---the sports car? yes bought to fulfill what he's been stripped of --a typical reaction--it won't replace what has disentegrated; neither will Kate's desighner clothes--material things are not a panacea for a void in a relationship---those kids will be teenagers soon---and I pray that this is history before that happens; any one that raises children knows all too well what can happen to them after being expoited this way---Jon begged to get out of the show----to save the marriage! Then the show has got to go--simple as that----nothing should be too important that the lives of your mate and children should suffer behind it---let us all pray for wisdom and guidance in this area for Jon and Kate and that their marriage and love for each other rules their lives so their children can gow up whole!!!

Cassie and all other unmarried sad women with no children who have no idea what a Godfearing marriage should be.Let me help you--- OK so you agreed to do a T.V. show---a real down to earth couple.....Kate! you cannot berate your husband on public television....he publicly did good by those kids---Kate did as well...pray that they save their marriage and children by opting out of television now--there is no other way---Jon isn't running from home life; he is running from the circus life---no man could stand that but for so long...& yes, he didn't quit his job;he was let go and tried to work at home but with cameras in your face all day---oh well...the blame is on neither one but the resolution is both their responsibilities---let the fame go---save your marriage,save your children and walk away---the sports car? yes bought to fulfill what he's been stripped of --a typical reaction--it won't replace what has disentegrated; neither will Kate's desighner clothes--material things are not a panacea for a void in a relationship---those kids will be teenagers soon---and I pray that this is history before that happens; any one that raises children knows all too well what can happen to them after being expoited this way---Jon begged to get out of the show----to save the marriage! Then the show has got to go--simple as that----nothing should be too important that the lives of your mate and children should suffer behind it---let us all pray for wisdom and guidance in this area for Jon and Kate and that their marriage and love for each other rules their lives so their children can gow up whole!!!

@EVS

Really? The alleged affair between Jon and a much younger school teacher ruined the show? If Jon did cheat on Kate, and the only evidence of it can be found in the tabloids, then apathetic is the only word I can use to describe how I feel about it. Can't you see how narcissistic [self-centered, smug or egocentric if you prefer] Kate is? At the end of last season, Jon suggested that he had enough of the show. Kate on the other hand seemed not only ready for season 5, but season 10.

Listening to Kate complain about how she is doing everything on her own is just plain cockamamie. Kate's brother and sister-in-law were around quite a lot a few seasons ago... but rumor has it that Kate did not like the idea of TLC compensating them for their appearances on the show, and they had a falling out.

Season 5 should be the last season. If not for our sake, but for the sake of Jon & Kate's 8 offspring.

This is really sad. Like any marriage or divorce it takes two to tango....they are both to blame for this mess.....personalities conflict, but it's how we choose to manage those conflicts that determine whether or not we survive in those relationships!

And honestly, KUDOS TO KATE for being the strong, organized woman that she is!!!!!!! YOU GO KATE!!!

I see a lot of myself in Kate and feel sad that so many people hate her for the personality that TLC chooses to show to the world......will the real Kate Gosselin please stand up!?!?!?!? Because what I saw last night was a woman scorned, trying to salvage any last hope of keeping her family together.

Everyone says she's just in it for the money....well with a husband out of work, and the thought of him leaving her in the back of her mind every day, can you blame her for grasping at anything that could potentially insure her kids survival in the future? How on earth will she be able to pay for 8 kids to go to college....at one point in her future, ALL of them will be in college at the same time. Now, average cost of tuition for one year is about $30K x 8 = $240K......hmmm.....does anyone have that kind of money laying around???

Jon knows how to relax and enjoy his children. Kate is wound up too tight and any man would run to another woman's arms when treated like dirt at home. Did Kate forget that Jon is not one of her children? That he is her husband and deserves respect. The poor guy took all the verbal abuse he could handle. So what if he bought a new car?

This show started out showing a loving family trying to raise 8 children, what happened? It was so sad to watch the show last night. Why can't Kate be home more? She sold her last book without doing book signings to my understanding. This was suppose to be a family show and if it is not going to be then TLC needs to pull the plug on it. I felt sorry for the both of them and their children last night. What happened to their wedding renewal vows to show the kids that they were going to stay together not matter what? Is fame and fortune more important than the vows you made to each other and your children? I hope they can work all this out and be a real family again.

This show started out showing a loving family trying to raise 8 children, what happened? It was so sad to watch the show last night. Why can't Kate be home more? She sold her last book without doing book signings to my understanding. This was suppose to be a family show and if it is not going to be then TLC needs to pull the plug on it. I felt sorry for the both of them and their children last night. What happened to their wedding renewal vows to show the kids that they were going to stay together not matter what? Is fame and fortune more important than the vows you made to each other and your children? I hope they can work all this out and be a real family again.

It's amazing that American women still don't get it. It's been said a thousand times a thousand ways, but...

If you don't take care of your man, some one else will.

...end of story.

This was hard to watch. I felt empathy for Kate as she put on a brave face for her children, as we watched her world crumble. No one enjoys that. You have to be an evil cold person to enjoy any families demise.Shame on those of you who judge! I think many people can relate to divorce. Kate is the easy one to pick on here but I never noticed until now how selfish and self-centered Jon is. The whole thing was too real for me to watch it gave me a lump in my stomach. Those were real tears in fact I'm sure in private you couldn't count all the tears. Only God can.

This is a first for me have never blogded before. After last night I feel for this family, yes, this is the result of fame but most of us would give up our everyday life some fame! I will keep my comments about there individual personalities to myself. I have enjoyed the show for a few years now so does my 4 year old. Good luck to Jone & Kate plus 8 in the future. I will say a prayer and not buy the tabloid magazines, even though I love them!!

I watched several episodes (first time I've ever watched it) over the weekend. The show gradually became less and less about the kids and more about the free vacations, free plastic surgery, free stuff, shopping, etc. It is very sad because these kids will never know what a normal life is like. All they will ever know is cameras following them around. Yes, money is very important with raising a family that large, but it does seem like Kate became a sellout. There is no turning back.

TLC Exec #1: All right, people, finish your muffins and we can get this meeting started. First order of business: Jon and Kate. Okay, if they break up, and we have to find something for that time slot...

TLC Exec #2: They're on every night of the week, boss. They're on TV more often than reruns of Law & Order and Star Trek _combined_.

TLC Exec #1: Right, right. So we might need to come up with a new show. Something exciting, something fresh, something that screams "TLC." Do we have any more midgets ready to go? Or another family with 20 children? Or a midget family with 20 children?

TLC Exec #3: Uh, excuse me, but we're "TLC" - "The Learning Channel." I fail to understand what midgets and couples who reproduce _a lot_ have to do with learning?

(Silence)

TLC Exec #1: Hey, who's the new guy?

I love this show, and it's always been that Kate has to boss Jon around, that is nothing new, but sometimes you have to boss men around or nothing gets done. If you have 8 children, 6 of them being 5yr olds it's a hard task, I have 1 5yr old and it is hard to get him to do things sometimes, and you do need help with the day to day activities, and when your husband is useless and you have to remind him to do everything like help the kids brush their teeth so they don't fall out, yes eventually you start to sound bitchy, maybe he should be responsible and just do some of these things rather than have to have someone ask for his help all the time. I do feel like Kate has become to involved with the hollywood lifestyle, but that is going to happen when your in the limelight for too long, I do think they need to get back to having a regular life without camera's, if for no other reason than to stop Jon from having so much money that he can afford a nice car like that with 8 kids. I mean who is riding with him in that thing, if he does everything for his kids how does he justify that purchase? Is he going to be taking them to the dentist in that thing...maybe if he could stack them in the trunk. That was not a for my kids thing to do, that was a midlife crisis purchase. And no you don't ever get to be Jon anymore buddy, you are Jon and Kate Plus8 because you have 8 kids, you don't get to have your own life anymore, you don't get to have your own life with just 1 kid. Get over it and be a dad and a husband.

I am really tired of families having children just to gain fame on television. I think society needs to step up and say, "I'm not gong to watch the shows anymore!" Kate bascically has found a way to make free money by marketing her children. If you recall a previous epidode where Jon & Kate took the twins to a talent agency to try and get them into commercials Pesonally I think being from a trailor park, Kate planned this entire mess from the jump. She went to the fertility clinic to get pregnant with multiple sets and to get on television. Now she has the million dollar home, Jon has the sports car now, (hint no longer driving the vans) they want to continue making money off of america. At the same time she is using her children as a cash cow. She says she does everything for the children, then Kate, how about you get a real job, let Jon return to the IT dept. and lead a normal life!


"If I didn't feel exploited before by this jumped-up soap opera, I do now."

Aw, poor li'l Z. Feeling exploited by the big, bad Jon and Kate. But then who made the following comments?

"And aren't you just dying to see how Kate is going to 'punish' Jon during the new season for making her unhappy? It's better than Bill and Hillary -- and Monica.

"Come on, admit, this bump in the marital road -- if there really is a bump -- has the potential to make for great television."

Well you got your "great television", so why are you so sensitive all of the sudden?

Reality television is a joke, except for those who cannot choose not to participate, in this case the "plus 8". Yet you have expressed little concern for their well-being:

"And don't tell me the kids are suffering. These two could have never provided for the kids as they are now being provided for with TV money. And anxiety-ridden Kate has more support systems as a mother than she would ever have enjoyed before becoming a reality TV star."

Hey work it, kids! Who needs normal childhoods when you've got "TV money"? Quite the Faustian bargain in my book, but in yours it's only the poor TV critic who's being exploited.

But I'm guessing you are at least somewhat concerned about how Jon and Kate's much-publicized marital strife is impacting on their children's well-being, and would respect their need to have this turbulent period in their very real lives be off-limits to the prying eyes of the public:

"The idea of the kids going back and looking at this footage is fascinating. Z"

Guess not.

This message is directed at the author or this article David Zurwik. You stated after Kate made this comment "Kate complained that her life was "just so hard" due to media attention and pressures on her marriage." You responded by saying "Is it really, Kate?" sniped the Baltimore Sun's David Zurwik. "Tell that to a family in which the breadwinner has just lost her or his job, you silly, self-absorbed fool." Well your the fool because she said that her life is hard "DUE TO THE MEDIA" That has nothing to do with someone losing their job and having to struggle. Your in the media so your "life" isn't surrounded by cameras and people being all in your business and people like you and TMZ making up all these rumors about their personal lives. If you were in her shoes you would be saying the same thing. Although this is the life they both chose for their children. But you have NO right to call her self-absorbed because the "media" is putting a lot of stress on her family & marriage.

If people hate this show so much, why do they watch it? Turn off the TV and read a book.

I have a few questions:

1. Aren't Jon and Kate supposed to be evangelical Christians?

2. Didn't she have little index cards with Psalms pasted all over her kitchen cabinets in the old house?

3. Isn't her father a minister?

4. Don't Jon and Kate make a lot of money traveling around to churches across the country? And getting first class air tickets and accomodations to do so?

5. Don't Christian Conservatives believe marriage is sacred between a man and a woman?

6. Why are Jon and Kate so easily talking about divorce? Shouldn't their church and pastor be involved here? Don't they have some faith based counseling to go through? Or isn't that marketable enough for them?

I like the show, have watched it from the beginning, and will continue to watch, as I believe many of you criticizing the show will also do. Kate's the brains, & Jon wants to play. Even if the show is only "Kate plus 8", I will watch it. Even if the show is "Jon plus 8", I will watch it. It's a good show, not great, but good, and is a lot better than a lot of "crap" that is on TV. Finally, SO WHAT if they make a lot of money, they will need it, with 8 kids. And let me ask all of you something..........have you changed in the past 5 years?
P.S. I am absolutely NOT RELATED to anyone on or affiliated with the show. I just "like the show".

So it starting to sound like everyone's comments are the same. Like, "they are sick of the show", or "its becoming to lame", but what about all of you fools who watch it (including myself!) Its because of all of us and especially the Paparazzi and media that has ruined their lives. The show is cool, but now watching them be followed by psychotic crazed photographers and watching Kate ignore her husband at their childrens 5th birthday party--Nice--exciting!! I just hope one day we in America wake up and realize we created this mess in their lives. We hate it, we created it, and we love it all at the same time--MAGIC!

I watched and didn't really like the show. Kate has changed. She is so "hollywood now". What was with the sun glasses? I think these are two people who started off with good intentions but got lost. She likes the fame, attention and money and he wants to go back to being "normal". The stress of raising a family is getting to them - like it does to everyone. But when you sign up for a reality show eventually the press stops being nice and the REAL picture comes out. The kids are adorable but it is time to hang up Jon and Kate Plus 8.

I actually feel sorry for both of them. No one in Kate's family is speaking to her anymore (and I'm sure she lost a gaggle of friends in the process), neighbors and friends are bad-mouthing them, and they are in the midst of a divorce. I am in no way saying that they do not deserve any of the things that have happened to them, but it's sad that their lives have come to this. They are approaching minute 14 of their fame, and I think it's just a matter of time before they become an afterthought on millions of people's minds.

Last night's episode is definitely this last episode I plan to watch. As long as the show continues to receive high ratings and viewership, it will stay on the air.

Stop watching, and it will all go away....

P.S.- did anyone else hear that Kate is charging $20 for an autograph now???

Found this earlier.

http://www.examiner.com/x-7608-Detroit-Reality-TV-Examiner~y2009m5d22-Jon--Kate-Plus-8--Am-I-being-Bamboozled

You should check out this link. Maybe it is like Z said in an earlier article, we shouldn't believe everything we see or hear.

Sherry Tellitocci

Kate is satan. She abuses her children and is the C work times a million. I hope her life falls apart piece by piece in front of the entire world until every nightmare of hers comes true. EVERYONE hates you Kate. EVERYONE LOVES Aunt Jodi because, unlike you, Jodi is a caring mother.

Kate, you are worthless, and you know it. You've always known it. Your parents always told you that, because they were telling you the truth.

it is not right.i am saying this when i am a 11 year old girl.it is not there fault its the papperazzi. they shouldnt even bug them why cant they just be a normal family that just has 8 children. my grandma on my moms side had 10 kids, u didnt see her on television and no one came up to her to ask if she wanted to be on a tv show either i think that the only faults was the telivishion show and that kate never shuts her big mouth i especially dont want to see aiden and cara grow up without there parents i mean thy are all cute but i like them the most

Hello,
You people are all disgusting and ignorasnt. Did you not hear Kate say both her and Jon are to blame for this. She in a way is taking blame so you asll need to go watch it again and pull your head out of you a@$. Also to David Zurawik get a life and stop filling us with ypour stupid column it is pointless and moronic quite like yourself. HMMMMMMMMM

David, if you don't like the show than stop watching it. And anyone that talks bad about them is an idiot. You have no right to say anything until you have 8 toddlers and are having marital problems and are having people shove cameras in your face and harassing you. Having a TV show is necessary for these large family's (Duggers, etc.) For it helps them make money to support a large family. And saying that they were milking the tabloid stuff is stupid, if I was being accused of things I would want to set it straight on my TV show to. If you don't like it than stop complaining and just stop watching the show. Pop out a ton of babies and get a reality show and then I will believe what you say. "What I saw was two people in over their heads, with one of them trying in her incredible arrogance to act like she knew what she was doing" How dare you call her arrogant, she is in a hard time and trying to be strong about it for her kids. This is the last time I ever come to this site again, you disgust me.

You people are stupid. Exploiting her kids? She is giving them a better life, and more opportunities then she could on a nurses salary. It is the medias fault there life is going down the drain because some paparazzi decided he wanted to make John look like a cheater, regardless if he did or not, its not his place. Do you not realize that the MEDIA is ruining marriages? They can place a name on a family just to get paid, and don't care if they are tearing them apart. I support that family with everything their doing, and I think the media is just stupid now. The kids are well taken care of, and clearly before the media stuck there dumbass opinion into it, the show was popular and no one had a bad thing to say about them. Get a life.

To start of the writer of this article is an idiot who has probably never watched the show other then last night because if he had he would know that in the beginning Jon was working mon- fri 7am-7pm and Kate was working double shifts on the weekends just to be able to put food on the table. So yeah they DO know what it is like to struggle.

The show has given so much to those kids. There life right now is not HALF as bad as it would be without the show. They would still be living in that tiny house and I can gurantee that Jon and Kate would STILL be in the same situation they are now.

Both Jon and Kate are exceptional parents and their kids are much better then most of the kids I encounter on a daily basis. Never have they cussed in front of or spanked one of their kids and that is why they are wonderful kids.

You say that they have become so "hollywood" well HELLO that happened when the tabloids decided to exploit their lives in horrible ways. The magazines that YOU people buy.

How dare you guys say that they are faking the tears. How would you feel in their situation?

Im so glad people still have compassion.... NOT!

Enough already!! Why does everyone care about these two nothings. Many people raise children, and more than many on their own without another parent in the picture....oh, life is just so hard...how much money do they make off of the show?? Come to Baltimore and cry those blues here, see how far you get

WOW! Lots of comments on this huh?

First of all, I don't feel bad for Jon or Kate. Like many of you said, the kids are the ones losing out here.

Jon is immature and has allowed Kate to walk all over him. He's got no one to blame but himself for that.

Kate has serious "control issues". If my wife talked to me the way she talks to Jon, that would be the end of our relationship.

The point is that these two have taken advantage of the "reality TV" craze and it's come back to bite them in the butt. The kids are adorable and I'm sorry to see them have to go through this nonsense.

Advice:

Jon- grow a pair and grow up!

Kate- try shutting up every once in a while and chill out. Life's too short for your B.S.!

I have never been able to stomach kate's abuse towards her family, from explicit spousal abuse to Jon to the exploitation of her kids, who are all mistreated brats that need actual parents, not self centered patron saints of idiocity. She is awful and from the tapes that prove consistantly that she abuses her family daily, I think charges should be brought against her. I'd watch THAT on tv and enjoy it.

Noone has mentioned marriage counseling. Let's leave them alone and hopefully they can get some counseling and work this thing out.

"I believe she was crying because her marriage was crumbling before her eyes. Anyone dealing with divorce knows how difficult and hurtful it is during this time, even more so when cameras are in your face. This blog is too harsh on the family, so perhaps reality tv is too real for you."

You, and those who defend Kate and John, seem to forget that they AGREED to turn their lives into a reality show. Sorry, but you cannot ask for attention one moment and then try to get rid of it as soon as it turns sour. And if you know about Kate, she is crying crocodile tears.

For everything they have been given as tv "celebrities," these two truly are self-absorbed fools.

People who have the nerve to critizise her, her family or any other public person that is on Television needs to GET A LIFE!! If ur marriage has never been through rough times consider yourself blessed! everyone has their own struggles, it might not be a life or death situation but who are we to judge how they feel?? Oh and to the Critics from those Trashy Magz... STFU No one cares what u think

its always funny to hear bloggers give their "high and mighty" opinions about REALITY SHOWS!

do yourself and your career a favor and talk about stuff that matters - not criticize and trash a family that was suckered in by a media crush due to a happy accident of conception -

"Is it really, Kate? Tell that to a family in which the breadwinner has just lost her or his job, you silly, self-absorbed fool."

Tell the family who just lost a breadwinner, they should be happy they have a family.

While this whole "Your problems in life are pointless, because other people have it worse." arguement is interesting, it's fairly stupid. The woman is losing her husband of 10 years...that's kind of a big deal. However, you're just a reality TV critic, so I know I can't put the bar on what you write too high.

..."silly, self-absorbed fool."

I think that about nails it....

Kate says that they have both changed, but she seems to be the one that changed - she seems to have become very arrogant and is acting like some hollywood star. I think he just wants his old life back and has realized that they've made a mistake. I also think think that viewers are tired of seeing all that that family keeps getting- trips, trips and more trips. A 1.3 million dollar house, extra privlages everywhere and tons of money. Now wer're sick of it and the whinning.

Hey Z! Did you see that you and Sarah Kelber are the stars of an article on US Weekly's site! It's about critics panning J&K. Awesome!

"For all the nasty and stupid reality shows I have seen over the years, I have to say this one did leave me feeling like I was looking in on something that I shouldn't be watching."

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Z,

Not sure if you saw your blog was quoted on Yahoo. The lead in for the article no less. Congrats!

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/critics-pan-season-5-premiere-of-jon-kate-plus-8/22979?nc

I was never a fan, but you do ultimately hate to see a family implode right before your eyes. Even if you don't like them, they're still humans and for their own reasons dying inside on tape. It's like one of so many movies where fame/money drive a couple apart and then they come back together in the end. Sadly, the reality version ends up more like Hogan Knows Best.

I don't know that Kate is silly and self absorbed for thinking her life is hard. Yeah, we know, the economy sucks, people are losing jobs, but that doesn't mean that there aren't other things in life that are hard as well. She is not a saint, she openly admits that she makes wrong decisions and has treated Jon poorly. That doesn't excuse his choice to be out at bars at 2 am with 23 year old women. I think she was sincerely hurt and crying at the fact that she never imagined she would be a single mom. That's a daunting thing for anyone, but especially someone with 8 children. That doesn't make her silly or a fool. There are other jobs out there, albeit less than before; losing your husband and the father of your 8 children is a little less easy to replace. Whether you have a job or not, money or not, big house or not, divorce is painful and worrying about how it will affect your children IS hard. Try a little compassion...it seems like you were trying to be as sarcastic and demeaning as humanly possible, and you succeeded...

mean people suck. yeah thats you zurawik (oh im so important because i comment on tv) try getting a job that matters

I feel really bad for Jon.Kate is a bxxxx. Nothing he ever does is correct or right. She should be ashamed of her self !!

I can not stand Kate AT ALL!! She thinks she deserves all that free stuff?? SORRY YOU DON'T!!! And I think it's terrible that TLC has paid for all those trips and things...people are stuggling right now and she thinks she should get all this free stuff? they ought to be ashamed. She's rude, mean, has run everyone off in her life including her husband. I hope it's all worth it kate, you'll be alone. Hope you like all your material things. That's all you'll be left with. I feel sorry for your kids. I really hope TLC takes this show off the air, no one likes it especially Kate ANYMORE!! GO AWAY!!!!

I feel for the kids mainly because if anyone remembers they "vowed" to their children on the wedding renewal episode that it meant they were staying together forever. Tough one to explain that you're breaking a promise to a child. Even though, obviously you can't guarantee that, they made such a big thing of it. I agree Kate is not thinking about all the single mom's and military wives with her doing it alone comments - woe is me. I've had a tough life, does anyone want to make a show about it??! And Jon is so disinterested it's annoying. I agree - this family should pack it up and go back to Kansas.

Lay off this poor family! Their marriage is crumbling and all the paparazzi and reporters are slamming them. I just hope that Jon and Kate can survive through this mess. If not for themselves then for the 8 kids in the mix.

Mr. Zurwaik seems to think that there's nothing hard about being a paparazzi hounded reality show Family,and that Jon and Kate are just cry babies. Because they have nice income and don't have to worry about how to pay there bills in this economy.
It doesnt matter weather you have money or not . For all the education that Mr.Zurwaik has he just doesn't get it he is too detached from actual life.
People with money or without have difficult things in there marriages. The Fact that Gosselin's are in the media spot light makes things terribly difficult. For example, look at Hollywood and celebrity marriages they almost never last because they are in the same boat as Jon and Kate, and the irresponsible media with there doom and gloom disposition, throw Nay-pom on the fire because they are so far from 1st hand knowledge and they are trying to sell there pitiful unscrupulous dribble to gossip hungry low life's like them selves and never think twice of the of the people especially the innocent children who's lives they are poisoning.
Nevermind the effect that divorce has on the children, "Hey" it happens to every body and there is nothing you can do about that "any one knows that". Right ?
Of course why should Mr. Zurwaik think any different "every body does it".
Well ..... its got to stop some where.Right ?

Yes, the News Media has no mercy on anyone, and their Crass nature includes anyone who gets any attention and they consider anyone who is making a living in Telvevision or Politics unless they are a Kennedy, or a Black Person, they are Trash and they are Trashed, and Believe me, they will take a politician's Job, their Marriage, their House and Laugh at them and a Person who is on a show like Jon and Kate is like a sitting Duck for an unsportsmanlike Hunter, they are Fair Game and are SUbject to being Shot do death at Dawn like a Spy in Cuba like the CIA Fighters in Bay of Pig Operation who were massacred by the Cubans when the News Media Gave INformation to the Cuban Dictator a few days before the Bay of Pigs Operation, yah the NEws Media Cares less if you have a Life they Don't care at all, that is Much Less eh mr news paper man, heh heh But rape a girl and be a Kennedy, and you are Bread with Butter amen, they eat it up, and just brush away the criticism and they are Just a Happy GO Lucky, they do what they want cause they are Kennedys.

I smell a Dr. Phil special coming up!!!
Come to think of it, I think Dr. Phil probably smells it too!

I think that this situation as a whole has gotten to be EXTREME... Look at our grandparents who raised just as many if not more kids, on a LOT less. Eight kids isn't much. But anyway, Kate has become this person that no one really can identify with, she is a control freak who treats her husband like a child, who treats and talks to her children better then she does him.. I have always felt for him, even if he did cheat, can you blame him?? The situation is sad for these children, they are who is going to feel the worse in the end. In last nights interview she kept saying My Kids..this My Kids that... it was never about OUR kids.... And then to defend himself he really made her look just dumb.

But anyway thats just a lot put together sloppy i'm sure. :)

For all you people "DISGUSTED" why did you watch the episode through and through?! you could have turned the channel, or turned off the tv... Life happens and for what it's all worth in the end they'll all be stronger.

David, you summed it up perfectly. I felt like a sicko watching a psedo counseling session between one screwed up couple. I've seen this train wreck coming for a long time. I hope now the churches, women's club, etc that PAY Kate to speak about her CHRISTIAN VALUES AND RAISING 8 KIDS will stop supporting her. Kate definitely isn't ready to stop the exploitataion of her kids or her marriage...it's all about fame and money for her. She's one sicko! I wish Duff at Charm City Cakes would throw a cake in her face!

the episode fell short.
what a special day, their sextuplets turn five!
not that i'd remember;
between all the stupid drama
tons of commercails
and lack of communication threw the show,
it makes a pretty lame opening.
i really hope Kate gets some therapy.
the birthday party, i noticed the kids look so much older!
and the parents weren't talking, kate was wearing mini skirts everywhere, kids avoided the cameras.
its becoming obvious kate is the only one who wants this. maybe i'll tune in for one or two more episodes, but if those dont pick up. See ya later jon and kate plus eight!

Come On! America, this is reality T.V. Jon and Kate were programmed to solicit whatever the TLC directed to achieve continuity with high rating's as in accordance with their binding contract's. If I was the executive producer, I would pursue the same objective on the basis that this is the most popular show on TLC. Absolutely no one know's what goes on behind the camera's and I believe what we are seeing before the camera's are just child's play according to Kate alway's using Jon's attitude problem whenever one of the children rant's. TLC went this far to devastation, it's only fair to the watcher's to instill hidden camera's to reveal what really goe's on behind-the-scene to see who's the real cuprit to this obvious mess! As far as healing this marriage, IT'S ALL OVER! you can't heal year's of abuse. It's easy to forgive, but it's darn very hard to forget.

My God, what is wrong with all you people? There is so much to care about right now in the world then this silly, stupid show! Put your energy and time into something that really matters to make this screwed up world a better place for us all to live and survive in!!!!!!!
They Call Me Hollywood

My son and I used to watch Jon and Kate all the time we loved it! He is an only child and we would talk about how it would be to have that many siblings it was fun TV. Then last year on a flight home from AZ my 7yr old son and I were on the same flight with them. My son was so excited he could not believe it. Jon and Kates 8 were all so well behaved the whole trip. My son made a card for them and handed it to Kate as we walked past. She took the card from him and pushed in the front seat pocket without even looking at him or saying anything.
That is when I stopped watching Jon and Kate Plus 8.

So Mr Zurawik could not be more right she should stop complaining. My husband has just been laid off from his job with GM and it is very hard and scary. She should stop being self-absorbed ! Maybe she should of looked at my little boy who took the time to make her family that card and said two little words, thank you.

First, I think Mr. Z.'s comments are right on the money. Second, the idea of "reality" left this show a long time ago. They have become people of extreme wealth and can afford to hire people to do everything for them. There is no struggle, there is no suffering or difficult choices. In short, there is no more "reality". They can do whatever they want whenever they want. Note, for example, that Kate's idea of setting up the kids' birthday party by herself involved her directing several other people as to what to do, etc. Jon has the luxury of staying home all the time but he too has been corrupted by the incredible fortune that having a circus freak show of 8 children affords them. Is it any wonder we have seen the likes of the Octomom in the face of all of this. It literally sickens me that these two self-absorbed nitwits get any airtime at all in the face of what is going on in the world right now. People are struggling to raise families after losing their jobs, their homes and these two sit there and obsess about their little self created dramas. No more for me.

WHO-O-O-!!!

Who really cares? If you do..you need a real life!
What is happening in our world that a TV show..any show..should cause such a whirl of "comment".
Reality shows are out of control!
In this day and time in America, what I would like to see is the funny,clean shows that make it easier to handle the bills, the kids, and life in general..just by letting loose and having a great,happy, fun laugh!!!

I'm sorry, but any "critic" that uses the words "you silly, self-absorbed fool" has no room to talk. Look in the mirror buddy, you're even worse.

I have watched the show from thestart and have grown to love the little children.They are so precious. They are all little miracles.I wish at times i was able to reach out and help this family, help Kate with the cooking and the organizing and help Jon with the baths and other daily activities just so they could get some time for themselves. Yes could criticize Kate for her obsessive compulsive, belittling ,disgusting selfish rotten person she is.But would that actually help her? She needs help and people to love her enough to tell her the truth about herself. Jon needs help as well. He needs to grow up and be a man. Tell Kate NO! NO MORE JUMPING.Stop asking how high Jon and be strong. May God shine his light upon them and see them through this rough passage.

I have never watched this show and have no interest to. . I have a friend that use to watch this show and would tell me how cruel Kate is and how disgusted she was that they were getting all these things free just because they have alot of kids. The rest of us shouldn't pay for them, I have my own kids to support. I advise my friend that she is contributing to them by watching the show so her and everyone else that is fed up listening to them to stop watching , rating will go down and they'll cancel the show. Making these kinds of shows just support all these people who have a bunch of kids. Let them support their own kids, they made them not us

There are alot of shows out there that are viewed as trash by some, entertainment by others. I don't need Zurawik's review to determine what I watch. Maybe you need to start watching E!TV if you really want to watch trash.

This shows how much I know about current events! I'd heard vaguely about this show, but tho't it was just another sitcom. It reminds me of that show back in the early 70's about the sill Loud family--an apt name--the decade that became the cultural cesspool of the 20th century and ushured in many of the deplorable things we have to live with today--namely the cult of celebrity. The family had the obligatory gay son (who sadly died of AIDS many years later), a couple of daughters and lots of self-absorption and self-dramatization, lot of psychobabble--it wasn't called the Me Decame for nothing. In the course of the show the parents split up on camera--who knows or cares where they are today 35 years later. It was a sad harbinger of things to come.

Thank you, Mr. Z, for pointing out the plight of many people while this "self-absorbed" attention w---- is now complaining about her life.
I was recently terminated with no prior warning just a relatively short time after being laid off from another job.
There are no decent prospects and I feel aboslutely hopeless while Kate has likely already earned more money than my wife and I will ever see -- all because she gave birth to a gang of children.

"I have to say this one did leave me feeling like I was looking in on something that I shouldn't be watching."

Z - This says it all. TLC is showing the destruction of a marriage. This is especially troubling given the innocent children stuck in the middle.

Wow, what are you Cinderella's evil stepsister? You'd mock a woman for feeling overwhelmed by a failing marriage? Regardless of nukes in Israel, war in Afghanistan, pirates off the Somali coast, Martians on Mars, and whatever other ills of the day, I doubt that's any consolation to anyone who's going through a divorce. But you're right, anyone going through divorce, losing a child to an illness, grieving a parent or anyone else living their lives and undergoing hard times needs to "SUCK IT UP" because someone out there has lost a job and we the Deciders have decided her pain isn't significant to us.

What a joke. Come on dude you're probably better than this

For Jon and Kate to complain about the press and "paparazzi"... I have to wonder why they went the reality show route... it's the press and the paparazzi that bring them viewers. Or is there some form of rocket science that I'm missing here?

I watched the show and wondered how the haters would interpret it. And reading these comments makes me aware that, whatever people like calling Kate, the internet sure is full of a lot of snarky people who delight in attacking whoever the media tells them to attack.

I'm disgusted by David Zurawik's article, as well as by all the comments which sought to pile on the criticism for Jon and Kate. I'm not a fan of the show ~ my wife is. Fan or no fan, since when has it become ok to trash a family? What kind of people actually take pleasure in someone else's marriage troubles? I can't imagine the kind of viciousness that must reside in the hearts of those who have no empathy for any marriage in peril. If you don't like the show, change the channel.

I don't understand all this anger towards Kate. Have any of you been in a relationship that you felt was falling apart. Yes she should think of her kids but if she is falling apart and hurting that is hard to do. When Jon married Kate she was just as bossy and pushy as she is now I am sure that has not changed. I can see the coldness in the way Jon is treating her and she is just trying to put on a show for the world that she is strong. So for all you men out there (the report that wrote the story) get over yourselves and leave this mother, wife and DIVA alone!

Wow, what's with all the dumping on Jon & Kate?

Some of the criticism rings true, and others ("obviously taking a toll on kids as how violent/aggressive they're now") just boggles the mind in over-analyzation.

Get a grip, people. Their problems are normal problems in relationships, and no one needs to rub dirt in them.

If you're "so sick of them", David Z. included, then stop watching the show already. I'm just contiunually amazed how "happy" some people can get over others' misery.

GET A LIFE.

What frustrates me most about this program is that Jon and Kate created every problem they have. They chose to have expensive fertility treatment that left them with 8 kids. They chose to go on television with their 8 children to get money, fame and handouts. They are choosing to allow TLC's paparazzi to film their every move. Kate treats Jon like crap. Kate treats her kids like crap (I am sure many will disagree with me, but buying your kids ice cream at Disney World and taking it away because they are going to get sticky is just plain mean) I am not excusing Jon if he did cheat, but few are going to sympothize with Kate, when they have seen their relationship. The only people who are going to get hurt are the children, and they are going to need extensive therapy when they grow up. The children didn't choose to become a modern day freak show. For the sake of the children, it's time to change the channel America.

This is one of my grandaughters favorite shows. She will soon be 16 years old. To her it's a must view. It seems to appeal to this age group. This is also the age group that is in their prime consumption years. If I were an advertiser I would be appealing to this age group on this show.

People make mistakes and that's between Jon and Kate. Everyone just leave them alone for crying out load. The newspaper people just have to fine fault in someone and try to get them a hard time. It's not creepy that TLC has camera crew following the camera. That's what the family agreed too. It's creepy that a newspaper people have to hide in the trees at the kids birthday party just to get pictures of them. Now that's creepy and just plain stupid. Everyone has problems and Jon and Kate need to be left alone to figure it out without everyone trying to get in their way and criticize them. I think the media should just leave them alone. Period.

Fast forward about 20 years, when all that Kate has is the reruns and she can truly see how controlling, abusive and hateful she was to her childrens father.
The kids may love her but I believe it will be a love-hate relationship. It sad how people can't see themselves for who they truly are. Is she so dumb that when she watches herself that's shes not ashamed?? In this last episode she talked about how much she loved her fans and thanked them all. Goody, goody for her. I just can't stand to look at her any longer. Now the tabloids are comparing her to the stars and believe me she loves every minute of it. She makes me sick, totally sick.

I don't see Jon as shallow, I see him as a man who probably tried really hard to let his wife have what she wanted, like most 21st century men now do. He's the one who lost his dignity as a man and the provider of his family. She said last night that she loved all of it and I bet she does, her picture plastted everywhere, she's an ego freak!!! THINK ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN!!!! You will have your life in another 10years or so..as most parents do. Parenting does mean sacrifice and tons of it. It takes away one self-centeredness and applies that to family or it should.

jon got caught with his "pant" down and doesn't want to play no more.... what a loser!

dave, don't know you fron a can of paint. Don;t normally even adress issues of this particular caliber...but why do you call humans "silly self-abosorbed fools" when your'e very own paycheck depends upon theyr'e succsess, or lack there-of ? What does this "make you'' ? Just curious.

P.S.

First time commentor on the i-net ever...no sh---. 50 years old...is this what humans DO nowadays...REALLY?

I agree - I've wondered how long Jon would stay. Kate goes around like a diva and a 5 star general. She is nasy, arrogant and speaks to Jon as if he were the hired help. His daughter "Maddy" is just like her. I fear these beautiful children will have serious problems later on in life. Kate if you care at all about you kids,
stop this whole thing and take your children home and be a mother to them.

YEA to David Zurawik's comment "Tell that to a family in which the breadwinner has just lost her or his job, you silly, self-absorbed fool."
As the mom to Six under 14 years old and two deployments without Dad, I could never feel sorry for Kate being alone or feel sorry for her. Many women go through way more than she ever has...did I mention that my five oldest are boys... :)

I love season 1 and I am their #1 fan. NOW!!!....I just want to throw up we especially when POOR KATE is talking. Poor Kate, now she has her own bodyguard, $$$$$$$, Free Free Free stuff, who wants to give that up!. Its not about the KIDS anymore, its about KATE, KATE, KATE!!.... I remember she said "if it get too much for the kids, she will call it off" ya right KATE.... Watch yourself on TV and see how MEAN/RUDE/BOSSY/ARRAGONT person you have been. Arrrrr she just makes me want to slap her not shake her hands. Her VOICE, makes me want to throw UP!!!!

As for John, I like John, but he need to stand up ALOT for himself.

NOW, I would rather watch the Duggars, The Roloff, The Little Couple and Tori & Dean.

Shame on you Mr. Z. and other cfor kicking the Gosselins when they are down. If you had 8 kids to put through college and wanted to ensure them a secure future, then you probably would have let a camera crew document your life too and taken advantage of the perks that went along with it. Now that they have achieved this, they should take this opportunity to step out of the limelight, get counseling, and hopefully, save their marriage.

In fairness, she didn't claim to have the "hardest" life. Each of us has our own tolerance levels(along with our own perspectives, souls and minds). I think after popping out all of those babies this woman has a right to be tired. it's not fair for you demean her struggles or pains. What constitutes "hard" for you anyway, and what makes your struggles any less or more? Have you ever been pushed to your absolute limit or did you manage to push through...like kate continues to do?

I absolutely agree that Jon and Kate should end the show, however, they (especially Kate) have grown accustomed to their "celebrity" lifestyle. Therefore, without the show how will they pay for their ridiculous million dollar house, Kate's sudden fascination with designer clothes and sunglasses, their overdone Sunset Tans, purchasing nothing but organic foods, and Jon's new white sports car? They need to end the show but could you really picture self-absorbed Kate returning to her trailer trash roots? Maybe that should be the new show, I would tune in for that.

I agree with Sara. Some of these posts are very harsh. I didn't know there were so many PERFECT people in the world. We all made plenty of mistakes in our lives so we don't have the right to judge them. Why not support these people and send them positive thoughts. I hope Jon and Kete can work this out and show the world how not to be quit when life gets hard. They have a great oppertunity to show us how to be better people and that It is possible to work things out and find a new happiness with there marriage. Good Luck Jon and Kate.

I feel that the critics are doing what they do best. No couple knows what they are in for in there situation or any situation that comes up like the lose of a job. But what does that have to do with their situation? Why would you be comparing unless you are playing the critic!!!! I bet the critics would have a hard time dealing with themselves. Where is the compasion? Anybody got any?? Your comments are a joke and I am already tired of reading about what the critics have to say. Who cares Let these people be!!!!!!!

the poster who said "calm down it's just reality tv" doesn't understand why the majority of viewers are so upset with Kate and the show now: The children and innocent victims.

Z's article was OUTSTANDING and deserved to be referenced in national articles about critics panning j+k. No one can stand her any more. Stop watching the show! You are destroying those kids b/c the more people who watch, the more money they make, the less chance there is that Kate will let them stop the show. She grew up in a trailer park! Nothing matters but her 15 minutes (even if it's all horrible negative press) and money.

I am so tired of all of you blaming Kate. Did anyone look a Jon last night and know one is questioning that Kate was on tour of her book to support her family. He was out with some 23 old and buy a new car. By the way did anyone think how that car was going transport all 8 kids????? I really would like everyone to think what they would do if they had 8 kids.

Maybe this wasn't the best idea but hind site is always better. Plus if no one watched it wouldn't have made it this long.

Kate and Jon do need to work things out for the children. I say that Jon is the one who needs to grow up. Back off of Kate. I

OMG u guys all s---- about how this woman lives and how the kids r hurting. And yet you guys all still watch the show huh? People like you want DRAMA in ur life so you need to talk about this woman. EVERYONE hurt in their own way and when u are stressed out emotionally ANYTHING u do will make u tired. People STUPID people who talk about them NOW that their is drama are just that STUPID. Its a dang show and u didn't have crap to say in the 5 years it was on. Why? Leave these people alone and let them handle their DRAMA the way they can. STOP JUDGING them..if u where in their shoes Im sure u would do them same. STUPID PEOPLE should not speak. Kate is her and thats what makes the show. DONT LIKE IT DONT WATCH IT. is that hard to do?loserssssssss

It takes 2 to make a marriage and it takes 2 to break a marriage. BUT, from the very beginning I was embarassed for both of them the way Kate talked to Jon like he was a dog. There is no excuse for that. And one of the first shows she said her schedule was that she absolutely did not get up before 8 a.m. then fed the kids, put them in the basement, played with them for a few then made lunch at 11 a.m. and by 12:30 p.m. they were in their cribs until 4:00 while she cleaned. She focused way too much on cleaning! But that nagging got on my nerves! But, I am not excusing Jon. From the looks of it, he probably did have an affair; but instead he should have put his foot down in the beginning and NOT let her boss him around; it sounds horrible. A very bad lesson for the kids. And Kate, PLEASE let the kids be kids....it will not kill them to get dirty, or get paint on them. Those lil boys were whining in the woods last night. My kids would have loved to have a big yard like that!
And altho Kate is a nag, I know men like Jon who do their version of "nagging" in a passive-aggressive way. It is not always obvious to observers. There is no excuse for him to leave the kids. But they do need to get off tv, get counseling and get back to as normal as possible. If they don't they are going to have their hands full with the kids; they cannot help but pick up the bad vibes. I liked the show but they need to stop for the sake of the whole family.

TLC, STOP THIS STUPID RE-RUN OVER N OVER N OVER.. IM SO SICK EVERYTIME I PUSH 30 ITS THEM FROM THE TIME I GE UP TO THE TIME I GO TO BED.

Kate, you make me sick. Marriage is about LOVE, RESPECT, TRUST and COMMUNICATION.

John, the new car will not bring you happiness. That is Kate trick to shut you up. Fight for your kids, so the will not grow up to be like their MONSTER mother. Your boys are too sissy and need to be toughen up. Your girls are sweet, Maddie will be like her mother 100%. I love Cara, she's like you.

My Point.....Fix your marriage!!!... If it turns out TLC is making KATE PLUS 8, I'm going to write a petition to BAND this show.....RATING & $$$$ thats all they care VIEWERS!!!!!

You can't totally blame the show for ruining their marriage. If their love was really true and strong they could make it and none of this would be happening. If they really cared enough about about each other or their family they would stop the show if it was the reason for all of this mess. It is pretty obvious from watching the show as long as I have that John wanted to get married to Kate, at the time, but was forced or rushed into having children. And then having that many...really changed his life. They were both really young when all this happened to them. Kate was in such a hurry to have kids because she thought she could not. And the feelings John has for Kate have been changing for a while. You can't blame either one of them. Yes, Kate was nagging at times, but she has EIGHT kids and a immature bot of a husband. Someone has to take control. Jon was always walking around like he did not care. Yes, John had an annoying wife at times and he was young and probably never expected his life to end up like it did. But his life did end up like this and he has to deal with it. To just walk away and not even face it head on is weak. He's not even there. And for him to say he did not cheat on Kate, is a lie. It is pretty obvious he did. He said he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and that people were paid to say things. When he was lounging around at the other womans house he was not just at the wrong place at the wrong time. And the whole story about the car incident is ridiculous. He should have been at home with his EIGHT kids instead of getting drunk at the bar with college girls.Its obvious that something is going on and if both him and Kate would face up to reality and tell the truth and face life and the truth maybe things could change. But they are both acting immature and stubborn about everything. And if Kate is really just in it for the money and the show then I feel sorry for her and the kids. If John is really an a** in real life and dosn't care and did cheat on Kate I feel sorry for him. Either way, everyone thinks their life is going to be different than it turns out...so what...deal with it and move on!

Ive watched your show from the beginning, and was very disappointed at last nights show. Things happened in life and you arfe in the public spotlight youn chose , but the children are going to suffer no matter what thats life. why dont you get coucelling to help you deal with all this maybe Dr. Phil can help, life nis too short to sweat the small stuff this too will pass, I wish your well and love each othe I can feel its still there, work on it its too easy to give up. I wish your familt well and hope to see some loving episodes.

J&K were a mistake from the start..let's go back & demonstrate..they meet 10/97 & both admit it was instant attraction..they lusted 4 each other, they also both admit that J dumped his gf the very next day..now what would make a man do that, SEX..forward 1 1/2 years and they're married..huge mistake but it doesn't stop here, by 10/00 twins r born & in 05/04 the sextuplets make their entrance..let's do the math 6 1/2 years & they have 8 kids already...wow things r starting 2 b understandably complicated..bottom line is J&K didn't really know each other b4 jumping into a serious relationship & bcause K was in such a rush 2 beat an imaginary ticking baby clock (which we all know could (& mayb should?)of waited) they now have all these kids who unfortunately r the 1s feeling the repercussions...TLC needs 2 shut this down, never mind new ratings u've had a great run now pull the cord..J has cheated cause it's his cry for help (no excuse for doing this) but he's said his peace about more air time but his wishes fall on dead ears..K deserves everything she gets, she is a BITCH of world wide proportions & it's all coming back 2 her now...WELL DESERVED!! maybe now she'll find the humble she thinks and says she is & really put those poor kids 1st...sad sad story, was it worth any of it??

I felt from the very first day the marriage issues were inevitable. I truly did.

TOO MUCH, TOO SOON. They were so young to have so many kids so quickly, then the jump to fame.

Kate is overbearing and I really hate how she reprimands Jon as if he were a child. I would quickly grow tired of that.

Jon, he feels his youth has slipped away. He wants to snow board and have fun. He is desparately trying to relive some of the years that he feels were stolen.

I can not believe Kate's strong personality was not there in the begining. Deep down she was always dominant. He should have called more shots in the begining.

BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU BOTH CHOSE IT..... grow up and do what is right. Save these kid's dignities.

The bottom line is that these kids did not ask to be born, or to be TV celebrities. All the riches in the world is not worth what you are doing to your kids.

I know that they both are hurting... but the first step to healing is getting out of the spotlight.

Pray, get counseling and get out of the spotlight. Lick your wounds and get back to family, not reality tv. Even if you divorce, get out of the spotlight......NOW..... these kids don't want the world to know what happened in their home. As teenagers they will be mortified. You can not keep them away from the public forever, they will grow up. They will be sitting on couches on a talk show talking about you both. "What in the world were our parents thinking?", and how their parent's choices affected their lives, etc.

You both did not think this through very well. You made yourself public, you want the money but you want your privacy? It doesn't work that way.

Get out now while you have any sanity left.

I personally don't think I can watch this drama anymore, because these are real kids, not actors.

Oh, and Maddy...... good grief she is a problem child if there ever was one. It will only get worse. Give that child some discipline and get her in line. It is such an injustice to her.

Get off Kate's back! Of course she's changed! If she were still like the Kate from the first show I would be worried! She's grown into a beautiful woman with a job that supports her family. As for Jon, it's too late to be checking out! You don't wait until all the kids are born and then decide you need to play. Kate should kick his butt out!q Once a dog starts sniffing elsewhere, he keeps doing it. He'll wish he had tried harder to be a family man when some one else is raising his children!

I'm not judging anybody. I simply could care less about these people. They are pretty naive if they thought that this was going to be Beaver and The Clevers....duh!!!! They agreed to have it all put right out there in front of the world, got paid, and now they're mad about it. I'm sick of hearing and seeing them everywhere I go. We all have problems. They get paid to show us theirs----the rest of us just deal with it. Grow up Jon & Kate and get over it!!!

Jon is a bad man. Remember Lacey Peterson with her pregnancy and big smile so full of love and hope and faith and her husband Scott had a girlfriend Amber and he ran around behind her back having his romance and nothing was more important to him than his sexy dates with another woman, not even his wife and child.Scott did not make a happy home and Jon is not making a happy home for his family. Adultery turns a man into a brut beast. Jon is playing with hell fire and his wife and children are not smiling, he has made them all sad just like Scott Peterson did to Lacey and her babies. I really dislike Jon.

Kate should take on the entire show herself

"Kate plus 8"

I think you are a miserable person if the thing you write about most is a family who has problems (which family doesn't) and all you do is criticize them. DO YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO? Write something that means something. Not something that you pretend to know. Obviously you are more miserable than them and you just need to make yourself feel better by criticizing someone else!! GET A FUCKING LIFE IDIOT!!!

Though Jon and Kate are in their early thirties, they act like spoiled teenagers. This show and its success has really gone to their heads and they've become unbelievably obnoxious and selfish during the past few seasons.

When I watched the season premiere last night, I felt like I was watching the Paris Hilton or Kardashian family reality shows. The Gosselins are no longer a regular family struggling to raise their eight kids but are rather a multi-millionaire family living in a mansion with maids and nannys watching the kids while mommy travels the country wearing designer clothes while marketing her books.

Scene: TLC Home Office
Time: The Present

Exec #1: Can you believe it? Almost 10 million people watched Jon and Kate last night!

Exec #2: (counting bags of money) Stop. You’ll make me lose count of all the money we’re bringing in in endorsements and product placement!

Exec #1: Should we feel bad that we’re risking the emotional well-being of eight perfectly innocent children just to make more money?

Exec #2: I don’t understand the words “feel bad…”

Exec #1: Who’d have thought that a couple of well-placed paparazzi and an idiot husband could have doubled our ratings in just three months?

Exec #2: That’s not nearly as brilliant as milking the drama in the tabloids for three months and then making them appear together on the show at their kids’ 5th birthday party.

Both Execs laugh and open the vault, tossing all the money bags inside.

Exec #1: Boy, what if one of them files for divorce?

Exec #2: We’ll need to get a bigger vault!

Truthfully, Kate doesn't need a bodyguard, she needs a psychiatrist. Jon must be sick of Kate constantly belittling him. I see the effect it is having on the kids. Eventually you'll see her sitting on that couch, but she'll have a straight-jacket on her, with her mouth taped up. She'll still be trying to talk, and in between hollering at Jon. Sickening.

I feel so sorry for both Jon and Kate. You can see the hurt in both their eyes. I do think it is time for them get off the roller-coaster now and try to get get back to some kind of normal if that is at all possible. It's time to think of the kids and their future.
Good Luck to the family.

During the show, Kate expressed confusion as to WHY her marriage is failing. I'll tell you why: as a (supposed) Christian woman, her FIRST obligation in her home and marriage is NOT to her children, but to be the helpmeet of her HUSBAND. Not only is she obnoxious, but Jon has always come LAST. That is not God's order of the (supposed) Christian home and family.

It doesn't matter that there are eight and it takes lots of time and effort to deal with all those kids; the focus of the Christian home is the PARENTS and THEIR relationship; THEN the kids. Watch the Duggers and see how it's SUPPOSED to work.

Why is Kate a "self-absorbed silly fool" for being sad her marriage is crumbling and saying that it is "hard"? I would rather lose my job than have my marriage end. I could get a new job. I could not undue the damage my marriage ending would have on my children and my family.

i use to watch this show all the time i still do but i wish that u guys would just work this out when i watched the season 5 video of the little kids birthday i know it had to be hard with all those papirazzs there but if this would of never happend then u would had not gone through this but i know how hard it is but if u could just get through it watching u guys on t.v. u cant even look at each other when u watch that u know how bad that makes the fans feel i was ur number 1 fan and i still am but i really wish u guys would get along and i thought u guys go to church if u went to church u would not act like that too each other

Somebody give Kate a clue. This show was never about YOU. It was about those six adorable children that you were given.

Stop running around the country and stay home with your family if it isn't too late to still be a family.

I think Kate needs to take a few steps back and remember why they both did this in the first place as well as get back in touch with GOD they used to believe do they still? I believe Kate has had fame get to her head.The hair the nails spas clothing ect.these things used to be a gift now its a must have .Jon I believe is trying to bring her back down.Kate your the one that has changed and it is way to bad the show need to stop before you reuin you kids and reuin everything you both have worked so hard for.

Please, I believe the public has been played long enough. We all started watching the show a few years back for the same reason; 'what is life like with 2 sets of multiples' etc. Ok, now that we have seen that, the jig is up, and we've seen enough. We learned how hard it is, and how Kate is a resourceful and organized mother, etc. Done! Show's over. It bothers me to no end that we as a public of ambulance-chasing-rubberneckers would want to sit through another season of this crap! Come on Jon and Kate, time to be REAL parents with REAL careers, and stay home and work on your marriage and your kids, and let the cameras move on to another topic of interest. Your 15 minutes is long gone, and the public is bored of your life!!

What Kate does not realize is celebrity is short lived and friends are forever, She seems to have the two mixed up. I can no longer watch - she is a demanding, self centered controlling Prima Donna who hopefully will one day wake up and realize is it not HER we like. When the show started, we empathized with their situation. She has evolved into being more self centered and more of a Prima Donna with whom none of us can relate. She wants two more years on TV? PLEASE TLC, drop her NOW. We no longer care. The only way to get her to counseling is for 2 more years on TV? Forget it. Let her wallow in her own self destruction. Let's watch real caring people who contribute to our joy and to society- like Matt and Amy Roloff. Dump Kate NOW. I cannot take the fake tears anymore- all she could say when she was crying on Monday night was "I am going to mess up my make-up". PLEASE!

I think Jon and Kate should watch The Duggars and the family of twelve( cant remember the name of the show) and see how parents treat each other. I have always said from the start of the show that Kate treated Jon like a piece of doggy doo.She has embarrased him so many times out in puplic and at home .I wonder if she has watched any of the shows and seen how she comes across when she talks to Jon.
I dont condone cheating by any means but if Jon did she pushed him to it.But Jon needs to remember everything he does is going to be made public because he is in the public eye.
Jon and Kate need to think of the children first and themselves second.I sure hope they dont break up but it doesnt look good for them.Just remember how are you going to countinue this life style without the show.Jon cant make enough to support yous on what he can make.Jon the car, a bad choice for a father of 8.
Why are there no grandparents from Kates side involved with the kids? If they are gone I am sorry for mentioning them.These kids are going to need a lot of loving in the near future.

Maybe Kate watched all the news footage on the "OCTO-MOM" (who has 14 in all now), and decided She had time for a 2nd reality show! The ego is big enough. Poor Jon, he has been ragged on since the very first season.

I feel like this article and all the comments afterward are incredibly thoughtless. It's easy for all of you to criticize Jon and Kate's decisions from the comfort of your chair but none of the condescending and slanderous statements have any real though put into them. Lets start with how Jon and Kate's individual interviews are cut and pasted several times with small segments of the children wedged inbetween; and thats their fault? Excuse me but the blame for that should be on TLC not on Jon and Kate. These people are under contract to do this show and now they're talking about their marriage falling apart and why not? The show is about their lives and they're expected to exclude their failing marriage. If it were all cupcakes and cartwheels it wouldn't be reality tv.

And for the commenters who have ill to say about Kate "whining" about being all alone to take care of the kids, perhaps you should take a walk in her shoes. Legally a day care has to have one child care provider for every 4 kids and this woman has 8 at all times. Twenty four hours a day three hundred and sixty five days a year. It's more than a handful and she should have everyone's sympathy and support. I am a single parent of ONE and I feel overwhelmed more often than not. These people are going through a rough time in an already stressful situation and it sickens me that all people can do is tune in for an hour and feel like you have room to judge and criticize. I don't want to be Jon and Kate, their life is hard and then after they deal with their own problems they have to deal with people like this who can't empathize and feel for their fellow being. I will never read from this paper again.

I sat transfixed in front of my TV last Monday night for 73 minutes. What a waste of time!!! The family that I have grown to love because I am all alone have become whining, bickering buffoons who can't make themselves happy let alone the viewers. Kate is so obsessive-compulsive that she can't find peace in anything that she does. I feel for the innocent children who don't have a moment of privacy and have to have a camera stuck in their faces constantly. I feel victimized by TLC and the charade that I thought was reality TV.

Such a shame.....in another ten years, no one will remember their name! Time flies when you're having fun, and drags when hard times have begun. Leave the cameras outside the door, you don't need them, anymore. Save yourselves and your little tikes, tomorrow it will be something ELSE everyone one likes!

I think Jon and Kate are just victims of their own fame. Now it all seems for ratings. You can tell by watching that no one in that family (kids included) are happy. The kids know that something is up and jon and kate talking about their problems in that way only seems to be adding more fuel to the fire. I understand that they are under contract for this season and that too have their problems to deal with but the way they choose to do it is sad. They are obviously disconnected from one another and miserable. They seem so caught up in the fame. Needless to say, I won't be watching anymore.

Kate is just very demanding and treats Jon as if he were one of those eight children. Nothing seems to make you happy. You talk about the papperazzi but you both created this media circus of letting us know what it is like to have eight children. You always talked about giving your children organic snacks yet I have seen them eat real candy. What happened to what you thought was a perfect life? I always thought Jon was not nice to you or the children. He always looked as if he was not happy being with you or the children. My husband is a cancer survivor and everyday is a blessed day and we cherish every moment we have together. I have a real problem with people that can not make the most of their everyday lives. You have made a mokery out of what is your life and the multiple blessings you both have brought into this world. It is true, and I have always beleived that money does not make you happy. You situation only confims that. I only hope that you end the show for our sake and the sake of your children. Let your children grow up out of the spotlight of your mistakes and unhappy marriage. Sell that big house you thought would make you happy and go back to nursing to support your family and claim a real job.

You people don't see what is really going on. This is all about MONEY>> That is it. Fro the both of them.
I have watched from the beginning. I have seen all the change's, from her Kate. It's all about her.
By the way, when she cried, it was because of the meal ticket's, maybay just maybay , it may be taking away from her.
She was definetaly coached to appear sensitive, I don't believe her for a minute.She, Kate, neeed's her meal ticket. Her KID's. Sorry, I don't have spell check.

I was really surprised at how Kate looked last night and how she showed off so much in front of the camera. She should remember she got a lot of things for free i.e. plastic surgery, clothes, trips etc. She always treated Jon like he was a child and remember he only wanted two children. Of course she wants the show to continue they get a lot of money from it. Jon: take your children and leave the show for their sake. Let Kate have a realty show starring herself.

I can't believe I am even writing on this ridiculous site. But here goes. Is there not enough horrible things going on in the world, that we have to worry about Jon and Kate divorcing?!?! I could care less about them. I really feel if they had not done a reality show, they would possibly be ok. Kate DOES give Jon a hard time, but she is just a strong woman and has a lot on her plate. Cheating is not the answer, Jon. Get of the air, and get yourselves together!

Z is sooo right... these are two phenomenally self-absorbed individuals. I see absolutely no reason
to feel sorry for people who pile one bad decision on top of another:

1. He was far to young (emotionally) to be married at 22. Period.

2. He was too emotionally immature to be a father at 23, let alone a father of twins. By now, any woman who did not have her head completely up her oriface would have taken note that she married an emotionally immature individual who is not fit to raise a litter of dogs, let alone children. But she had her own agenda, with little reference to reality.

3. He didn't want more children (he said he thought 2 was enough), but let Kate wear the pants and make the horrible decision to go through ART again. Their chances of having another set of multiples would have been thoroughly explained by the attending physician. They knew this was a consequence, but forged ahead. Why? Kate gets off on the attention she gets being pregnant, having litters of children, etc. All Jon had to do was be the sane one, refuse to offer up his "DNA", and this disaster could have been avoided. But once again he let Kate push him into something he really didn't want. Take note that this becomes a common, recurring pattern in his life...

4. They were offered a reduction. They could have chosen to have one more child instead of six more. Another bad decision.

5. They have continually chosen personal pleasures over what's best for the children. Fathers of eight don't get to go hang out with their young female "friends" at bars until closing time. Mothers of eight don't get to have "careers" which involve flying all over the country. Lots of books sell without the author going on tour. She chose to do this (I'd probably want to get away from all of the piss, poo, and screaming, too...), an odd choice for someone who claims to love her children so much.

My uncle and aunt had eight children the normal way. No one helped them. No one gave them free anything. My aunt had no time (or $)for fake suntans, gay-boy-awful haircuts, or sculptured nails. She had no cleaning lady, no nannies, no nothing.
My uncle worked his *ss off to earn a legitimate living to feed the eight children he brought into the world. He didn't get to hang out with young women at bars or drive identity-crisis cars that let the wind blow through his
non-plugged hair. My uncle and aunt just did it without a word of complaint. After all, they CHOSE to bring eight children into the world. They didn't think that the world owed them anything. Jon & Kate make me sick. They are self-serving, money-grubbing egotists who don't deserve one child, let alone the litter they are currently warping emotionally. Several of these attention-starved children (hint: that's why they scream all the time- for attention) are clearly presenting with personality disorders (with a mother like that, how could we be surprised?)
I hope TLC is also paying for the couch time the kids will require... for the rest of their messed up lives.

I love you Jon and Kate plus 8, but its true, I think you guys should stop the show for the sake of your childern....I love the show but you and Jon need to work out your priorities! Best of luck to you guys!

Really not a big fan of the ever-popluar "reality" TV trend (something about real scripted television that's far more appealing; besides, very much like traditional media, there's an entire industry of real talent that's being subjugated by the prophecy of Andy Warhol -- you know the whole 15 minutes of fame thing).

At any rate, I digress...the real purpose of my posting is to give you a shout out. I believe it was either Inside Edition or possibly Access Hollywood (Aired: Wed. 5/27) that referenced your commentary in their report on the sad situation and demise of Jon & Kate Plus 8. Congrats on the citation. Love to see anyone and/or anything related to Baltimore in the national spotlight. Great job Z!

One last note on Jon & Kate Plus 8 - art imitating reality or reality imitating art? Perhaps this show is yet another uncanny representation of the dissolution of the American family.

Jon is pretty shallow, but, if I was married to a woman who was as domineering and boorish as Kate, I would have found myself with two choices - 1. Run around with a 23 year old teacher at 3:00 am or 2. Drive my car at 90 mph into the back of a gasoline tanker. Guess Jon chose poorly.

Why doesn't someone call dyfs on these people??

Kate: "oh no here's the papparazzi!"
Child: "what's papparazzi?"

Kate: "Did you here that?? He said, 'where's the papparazzi?' I don't want them to use that word."

Kate, then stop using it!! Start listening to your kids. When your walking through a parking lot, walk behind your kids to make sure they are okay. Stop walking in front of them to get in the photo! Stop playing such a martyr, too. We REAL MOMS all go to the party store and get ready for parties without our husbands!

This whole thing is just a scam. Funny how her husband cheated the week her book was released. DYFS ~ please intervene!!

I can't believe the people falling into Kate's pity party..

If she doesn't want the
"P" people following their family around. (I know we can't say papparazzi because of the children!) and she is so worried about the stress it has on her family~ then break the damn contract and get your family away from the PAPPARAZZI....

Please stop watching this train wreck. That is the only way this family will even get some sense of normalcy back in their lives. The children will suffer the most. What kind of hell have their self-absorbed parents gotten them into? The poor children will need years of counseling when all is said and done. the bodyguard that Kate is USING better be careful, he may be falling into her web. There are already pictures on the internet of him with her and the kids out of town for Memorial weekend.

Wow! I really would like to know where most of you got your SPECIAL GIFT of knowing what Jon and Kate are feeling and thinking!
As far as intervening in this family's lives, I wonder how many of your family or friends have thought the same about your families. I wonder how many of you could do half as good a job at raising 8 children of this age. Also don't blame them for trying to make a good living for their children. Do you actually think they could raise these children on a nurse's salary?
No they are not perfect and neither is their family situation, but guess what neither is yours!

First off Jon and Kate did the show so they can get money for their children. Jon's and Kate's jobs alone would not support the children. As far as Kate having a pity party? You all should be ashamed to bash the family and the show. If it's so easy and smart for them to "break the contract and stop the show" then it's just as easy for those of you to STOP WATCHING AND CHANGE THE CHANNEL INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SHOW! I am sad to see them go through troubles but that's what reality is. If you don't like the show then don't watch it!

David, you are the "silly, self-absorbed fool"!! How the hell does losing a job have anything to do with broken dreams and broken hearts? You can get another job or sponge off the Government, but where do you get a new heart? I wish there was such a place so you could go get one!!

I'm tired of people wanting to pull the
plug on Jon and Kate. The kids are
living in a Million dollar home, they
have good food to eat and nice clothes on their back. Jon can't support them him self and neither can
Kate. I don't want to see 8 more kids
on welfare. Think about before you
people wanting to pull the plug.

Is a lot of hateful people in here!! live your own life!! and leave them alone!!

Early on I said to myself, this is verbal abuse for the world to see, the results are typical of enduring abuse. Especially the now low self esteem seen in the husband. Also, the denial by the offending spouse. Anyone will eventually escape one way or another. However, an affair is typical. By that time the victim of abuse doesn't realize the consequences because all perspective is gone due to the loss of self identity and in fact since the abusive partner predicts low behavior, often the victim subconsciouly fufills the prophecy. Again it's predictable and common. And again the offender sincerely doesn't see the behavior or how it's effecting the one their abusing. This is a snapshot of a form of abuse for the viewers to see. It may be why some viewer can't see it. They may be involved in a cycle of abuse themselves. There may even be physical abuse involved in some cases. But here's a great example of what verbal abuse looks like and we're probably not seeing the worst of it in this case. Jon exiting will only cause Kate to turn the cycle to someone else like a less likable child. How about the one that reminds her most of Jon. Kate it's time to get help. Jon watch your children and require the abuse to stop. You have stopped the cycle by leaving. Though she still tried to order you at the Birthday. Do her a favor. Don't tolorate it in or out of the marriage. Physical or mental abuse IS worse than a broken marriage. This is due to it's effect on the victim and the behavior patterns that the children learn. Just say sorry for any behavior your sorry for love your kids mom in or out of the marriage. If there's hope it's with counseling and the victim of abuse figuring out how they allowed it. For men they often hate confrontation. For women it has alot to do with the imbalance in size and strengh and not wanting confrontation to escalate.

I've watched this show since the beginning. I painfully watched the Memorial Day Marathon leading up to the big show on Monday night. Through every episode it went from bad to worse. With any show on cable, we're exposed to people who want to be judged because that's the pay off. The worse it is, the more they get paid.
It's obvious that Kate is where she wants to be. She thrives on hand-outs and freebies.
I'll cut to the chase here..this show has worn out its welcome. Who wants to watch a family self-destruct right in front of our faces? Isn't there enough of that already? This is nothing more than a glorified soap opera using real people's lives.
Oh, and the infamous line, "We're doing it for the c-h-i-l-d-r-e-n" is nothing more than greed under the guise of family values.
I'm sick of seeing Kate parading around like some trophy wife with kids in tow, or not, and then complaining about it.
One day the Gosslin children will watch in horror how their life unfolded and unraveled in front of the world.
Please, please TLC, please don't make my eyes watch them in marriage counselling either.
Jon and Kate will one day regret what they have done and are doing.
They are very poor examples of what a family should be today.

kate is probably in panic mode. another 13 years before they turn 18. some will probably go to college, but prob not all. hope their investing well.

if she loses this gig and jon, then what. he can ride off into the sunset and go back to work, even start another family. can't ever see her working anywhere anymore.

and the kids will suffer. they are child stars in a sense. and we know what happens to some of them.

maddie is kate x2...very needy and selfish. she is probably going to have destructive relationships or worse. one of the boys, don't know his name, the big one. he is pretty aggressive. kids personalities really don't change, they just take form as they get older. and depending on their upbringing, it can be good or bad.


Boohoo...the price we pay for pimping out our children! Remember Jon and Kate u signed on for this. I have watched how openly critical you r with ur husband...ur kids don't stand a chance. The sad thing is that both of your ego's r getting in the way. Hope the greed for the coin will b worth it in the long run. Your husband has strayed...but lets b honest his selfish all about me attitude is getting so old. Grow up and b a father...take ur kids off T.V. They r already turning into snotty brats&that is learned behaviour!!! As for Kate...She went from a mom that wore sweats& didn't wear any make up....to a movie star wanab.Now its 1.3 million dollar homes that still don't satisfy you....to designer duds, full on make-up nails etc. Oh and having ur kids call them the "P" people come on lady u love the attention and u play up to! Lastly u r not the first person to do a birthday party on your own, again boohoo. I have 5 kids, 2 with special needs and I do it ON MY OWNwhil my husband works hard to earn the money to feed these children. I don't have the luxury of pointing to a camera man or producer and saying can I have a 5 minute bathroom break...I take my breaks when I can. So lets stop all the whining you have the world by the short and curlies lady u signed on for this...either suck it up....or do the right thing and quit the show.What r ur children going to b like??? rude brats, that r as selfish as their mom and dad??????BTW my husband is one of the many unemployed out there and I don't care how bad things get or how tight money is i would never pimp my children like that for money!

Look, they do not need to ever work or do a book deal or have a TV show. They are already worth over 10 million and if they can't live off of that and be happy then who cares. They are getting $75,000.00 per show this year and are shooting 40 shows that 3 million. If it were invested correctly in the worst market they still do not need to work.

They could spend all the time they wanted with the kids.

The simple fact is Kate is a FRAME AND MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, AND MORE MONEY NUT JOB!

Jon is a CRY BABY AND DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO STAND UP TO HIS NUT JOB WIFE.

I AM GLAD HE FOUND SHE NEW TAIL AND HOPE HE ENJOYS IT AROUND THE CLOCK. HE SHOULD FIND SOME MORE TAIL AND HAVE THAT TOO.

JON & KATE HAVE SOLD THEIR FAMILY TO THE DEVIL... ALL FOR FAME & MONEY.

WHAT A POOR EXAMPLE OF A GOOD AMERICAN FAMILY ON THE "LEARNING CHANNEL."

I'm no longer a fan of this show. I'm so sick of hearing about them in the News, ENews, Hannity, Access Hollywood.......every channel i switch there will be about J&K this, that, this....even the magazines!!!!!!!!!! ENOUGH already people this is what TLC want, RATING!!!!..

Some of you say about the Duggars, at least from season to season their family is intact, their kids grown n thery are going to be a grandparent soon. DO U SEE Michelle wearing brande cloths, belittle her husband???

Im not giving and excuse for John but I think he had enough of Kate belittle him. She keep saying too each season 'Daddy wont run away now, maybe another time' everytime she keep saying it, it seem that she want it to happen in the near future, which is praying for it.

If they are Christian and have Christian values, why have we not see them go to church???? Please.......

I rather watch Tori & Dean and that is more drama and funny and entertaining.

I blame TLC for greed, manipulation and play a part in this family troubles. Take them out of TV!!!!

They can sell their house and buy a simple house to live in. Maids, Nannies, BODYGUARD, chiefs, celaberties guests.....ENOUGH!!!!

I have 5 kids and live in the basement of my parents. We live pay check to pay check but we are happy and whatever we do, we do for our kids happiness first. I was like Kate and I respect and love. Now both of us lost our jobs and as much tears Kate shows, she will NOT know what that tears are until she fell off the wagon hard. Then she will see who are her true friends.

Sad that she chooses to hate her family (parents, brother/sister) for fame.

I used to watch this show simply because the kids were so cute. But now I am SICK TO DEATH OF THESE PEOPLE! They have made a living off of their children and even though they both keep saying their biggest concern is their kids, they are still putting all this ugliness in the public eye for their children to have to deal with. Not just now but do they not realize all this stupidity will follow their children for the rest of their lives??? Its time for them to both GROWUP cancel this show, get real jobs instead of making a living giving slanderous interviews and milking their "celebrity" and putting their kids through all this BS.

Enough already, they are not the first people in the world to go through an ugly divorce. Most people just don't put their business out there so public that their children will get to relive it over and over through reruns!

A few years from now when their kids are in trouble with the law, doing drugs, and doing heaven only knows what as fall out from all this stupidity do you think they will take the blame, or put the blame on the media/television show??? hmmmmm??? When it happens, its your own damn fault Jon and Kate!!!!! Was the money and TV time worth it????

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About David Zurawik
I've been The Baltimore Sun's TV critic since 1989. My writings on TV and media have appeared in such publications as TV Guide, Esquire magazine and American Journalism Review. I have a Ph.D. in American Studies from the University of Maryland, College Park, and an M.A. in specialized reporting (on popular culture) from the University of Wisconsin. I'm the author of The Jews of Prime Time (Brandeis University Press), a look at 50 years of Jewish characters and identity on network TV. I have also been with WYPR-FM (88.1) radio since 1994 and can be heard Thursday mornings at 7:30 doing a weekly "Take on Television" report.
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