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Palin talks abortion and homosexuality with Couric

The second part of Katie Couric's interview this week on the campaign with Sarah Palin covered the Republican vice presidential candidate's thoughts on homosexuality, feminism, abortion, evolution, global warming and Joe Biden's age.

Most of the answers involved considerable tap dancing by Palin while Couric steadfastly used follow-up questions to try and get straightforward answers.

Representative of the conversation was Palin's response when Couric asked her a hypothetical question aimed at getting her views on abortion: "If a 15-year-old girl is raped by her father," Couric asked, "do you believe it should be illegal for her to get an abortion -- and why?"

"I am pro-life," Palin said. "And I am unapologetic in my position that I am pro-life. ...Now I would counsel to choose life...."

"But ideally," Couric persisted, "you think it should be illegal for a girl who was raped or the victim of incest to get an abortion?"

"I'm saying that, personally, I would counsel the person to choose life despite horrific, horrific circumstances that this person would find themselves in. ..."

But then she added that she wouldn't want to see anyone sent to jail for having an abortion.

Couric had to ask three times before Palin gave anything approaching a straight answer on whether she condones or condemns the use of the morning-after pill.

"Personally, I would not choose to participate in that kind of contraception," Palin finally said.

When asked if she considered herself a feminist, Palin said, "I do. I'm a feminist who, uh, believes in equal rights and I believe that women certainly have every opportunity that a man has to succeed, and to try and do it all, anyway."

Palin herself brought up the issue of homosexuality as part of a discussion about what kind of church she belongs to in Alaska. She told Couric she belongs to no church but attends several. She tried to knock down published reports that one of them, the Wasilla Bible Church, held a conference which included gays attempting to be made straight through prayer.

"But what you're talking about, I think, (is) my position on homosexuality and (whether) you can pray it away," Palin said. "And you know, I don't know what prayers are worthy of being prayed.... But as for homosexuality, I am not going to judge Americans and the decisions that they make in their adult personal relationships. I have one of my absolute best friends for the last 30 years happens to be gay, and I love her dearly. And she is not my 'gay friend,' she is one of my best friends who happens to have made a choice that isn't a choice I would have made. But I am not going to judge people."

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And here's the segment that will probably have Palin supporters complaining about "gotcha journalism" again.

Couric showed a clip of Palin on the campaign trail getting a laugh at the expense of her opponent Joe Biden's age -- 65.

"You have a 72-year-old running mate, is that kind of a risky thing to say, insinuating that Joe Biden's been around for a while," Couric asked.

"Oh no, it's nothing negative at all," Palin responded. "He's got a lot of experience and (I'm) just stating the fact there. ...I'm the new energy, the new face, the new ideas, and he's got the experience based on many, many years in the Senate ..."

(Photo of Couric and Palin in Ohio courtesy of the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric)

Comments

Palin just can't seem to give up her shovel. She just keeps digging and digging and digging. As funny as I think her gaffes are, I am more scared than anything that she could potentially be the President. Nothing against hockey moms, but in all seriousness I hope all those that identify with Palin as "just like them" are finally able to realize that also means..."unqualified to be the Vice President of the United States."

this is ashame she is talking about Biden and her running mate is older than Joe Biden so many years and McLain sure doese talk about many many many years too Dam- much.

I watched this clip on the news and she handled herself very well. I think she will make a great vp.

McCain should be ashamed of this VP pick, she's is in one word a "Biggot".
Luckily the American people can see through the smoke and mirrors.
It's one thing, and a good thing, to be a "Hockey Mom", but I don't want that kind of person anywhere near Washington.

If this phony dingbat really had a close gay friend she wouldn't completely demean them by stating they chose to be gay. I wonder when it was that Ms. Palin chose not to be gay? Man, just how stupid is she?

Oh and she couldn't name another supreme court case haha. I think I just lost some intelligence watching her interview though.

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Palin responded. "He's got a alot of experience..."

A lot is two words....

"she added that she wouldn't want to see anyone sent to jail for having an abortion."

Nor would she want to see anyone sent to jail for murder. Her answer doesn't necessarily address the legality.

Hello, excellent point. I thought the same thing. Saying you wouldn't want to see anyone sent to jail for HAVING an abortion, sounds like you are sympathetic. But that doesn't address whether or not you would threaten doctors with jail for PERFORMING abortions -- or other medical and social workers for COUNSELING abortion. And that is what I mean by tap dancing -- in answer to a previous comment that thought I was being biased for saying it. Z

Come on. She didn't do considerable tap dancing the whole interview. That's unfair. She answered the questions and Couric pressed her unlike she did to Biden. It's rediculous how Couric handled these interviews vs. others. Palin was honest even abortion, global warming, her view on homsexuality, etc. Did she ask that of Biden? NO. And the rediculous questions about where she gets her news....Does she think Palin comes from Mars. Your take on that interview seems really bias.

>> alot of experience

myspace level journalism alot (sic)

I think interviewers should use the same level of difficulty in questions for Sarah Palin as they did for Sen. Clinton.

"A lot" has been misspelled as one word. Whoa!

Would Sarah agree that a 72-year old man who, under the pretense that he is the Father of this country, or wants to be, he says---rapes his neighbors, also their children, and doggies their pets, or what's left of them, at least; and then gets raped himself, by his own co-candidate:

Should that father-fxxxxx be aborted, as a truly Legal Act of Mercy?

I have faith that the brilliant Katie Couric will eventually come around to seeing and appreciating the wonderful 'ordinariness' of Sarah Palin.

Her views are held by many, many Americans.

Recognize them?

I'm THRILLED that they are taking the time to build a relationship.

Nothing but good can come out of a relationship of trust between the two of them.

Thanks, Katie. We can see that this is not easy for you but we have confidence in your sense of fairness and your good will.

Palin strikes again. She attempts to preempt a question about her views on homosexuality and wants to appear less of a troglodyte than she is. Sorry, Sarah. By stating that homosexuality is a choice," her ignorant slip is showing once again. Clearly the woman has a problem with the whole concept of "choice."

She has a lot on her plate right now.
In Anchorage they're still trying to decide on what color the new zamboni should be.

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Maybe she got her world news facts from the National Enquirer until recently when they accused her of having an affair.

Sarah Palin seems to be a very nice
person, mother, wife. Though she
may be a great governor for the state of
Alaska, she has shown herself not to
be qualified to be Vice Presidential
material!! In fact, she has shown herself
to be a disaster in that arena. John
McCain has lost my total respect for
choosing her. Clearly it was a choice
made to hopefully re-energize the
GOP base. I think it was a reckless
quickly made decision; by choosing
her, he who boasts 'for the good of
the country; has lost it! Because of
this choice, that in itself has shown
he is not qualified to be our next
President. I am a Republican, who
has become a great fan of Obama
and that is who will get my vote.

Some facts:
Biden has a big mouth.
Does not realize that FDR was not president in 1929...and apparently did not know that TV had yet to be invented in 1929. All those years in the senate dulls one's senses.

Sarah is a product of the people.

The 'Bailout' is really a 'Copout'.
(Check how Barney Frank made his "friends" extremely wealthy.)

Obama has 18 billion in "Earmarks"...
Yeah right, he's going to change.

Joe Lieberman will be McCain's Cheney running things behind the scenes. Palin is simply a spokesmodel for oil. They only want her to read cue cards, repeat phrases, and manipulate the clueless.

All of that shows the usual erratic and horrific judgement of McCain that will harm America in so many ways.

No more election fraud. No more posers. Elect someone with a brain - not McSame.

"I'm the new energy, the new face, the new ideas..."

The misguided and absurd idea that homosexuality is a choice was "new" in, oh, the dark ages.

History repeating itself...

I wasn't scared until she got the nomination, Now I am Scared!! I think she's Anti-Woman, not even close to femenist! and Anti-anything that's not her own personal "choice". I hope they will start to focus on what's important to those of us who used to be middle class and are now working class poor! Someone once said "It's the ECONOMY stupid"... well, it's still the Economy or lack there of.

Is Palin related to Dan Quale??

Whoa! Stop the presses! Zurawik forgot to press the space bar.

Get over it.

Hi, and thank you, Matt. I wish I had that kind of attitude and edge to my comebacks. I guess I am just too nice a guy. (ha) But I love the teeth in your remark. Z

Palin couldn't even name specific newspapers or magazines she reads to keep informed of world views. Talk about a convoluted answer...

This little slice of idiocy couldn't have come at a more opportune time. Revealing the vacuum that is Palin is the most important job any reporter/anchor can do right now.
I always giggle when I hear them refer to themselves as mavericks. It makes me think of "Top Gun". My guess is, they're both more like Goose. Not qualified to fly the plane and hopefully they both hit the canopy during ejection this November.

Hi, Thanks. I have been hitting that same thought hard since this blog started two and half weeks ago: This is the job of the press, and there is none more important right now than giving us reliable information about the candidates who say they can lead us out of the crisis in which this nation now finds itself come January. Thanks. Z

S. Palin must not have talked to her "best friend" of 30 years about actually being gay because she stated clearly that her "best friend of 30 yrs" made "A CHOICE" to be gay! Being gay is NOT A CHOICE! My son is gay so I know alot of really wonderful gay people, they haven't chosen this lifestyle - either you're born gay or not! My own son has said to me "why would I CHOOSE to be picked on, ridiculed and looked down at throughout my life if I didn't have to." She doesn't seem to know her "best friend of 30 yrs" very well. As usual she is just B.S.ing her way through this campaign. I cannot imagine the horror of being raped for a grown woman or small child & being forced to have a baby from this pain. A child as young as 10 can sometimes become pregnant - can you imagine a 10, 11, or 12 yr. old CHILD being raped by anyone - perhaps her own father & being told after you give birth in 9 months you can give the baby up for adoption. Oh My God!!! Shame on John McCain for caring more about becoming President than the welfare of this country like he preaches. If McCain & Palin get in the White House we will be worse off than with G. Bush & you all see where that has gotten us! McCain said he wants a spending freeze. That terrifies me - he has plenty of money - his wife is an heir to Budweiser beer - he won't be doing without anything. I have a handicapped grandson that needs help thru Gov. programs - I'm terrified these programs and Social Security are expendable to him. He was for privatizing SS before it was unpopular so he said he wasn't for it. This man cannot make up his mind on anything & stay there. He says whatever seems to be popular just to get votes but once he is President he'll do what he wants - NOT what he promises the voters. He lies all the time! He & Palin are PERFECT together! Scary!!! McCain is 72 & this stupid woman talked about Biden being old, then said she wasn't trying to insult him but point out how much experience he has. This woman is truly stupid! She CANNOT think under pressure or speak without a script!

Hello. Thank you so much for these comments. I am surprised that more comments have not focused on Palin's remarks to Couric about her friend's "choice." Hopefully, your comment will help inform and educate some other readers of the blog -- and more folks will comment on what Palin said about her friend. Thanks. Z

Palin is a breath of fresh air! When is the Obama drive-by media going to stop this unfair biased reporting? Come on now, does it really matter what newspapers she reads? She is pro-life and entitled to her opinion. I wish the press would stop this nonsense with these irrelevant questions and get to the real issues already. I'm so sick of this.

Hi, Sorry to disagree, but I think it does raise questions when a candidate for any office can't tell you what newspapers or magazines he or she reads. Actually, I think it is astounding, if you will allow me to be totally bhonest -- and since this is the Web, let's be totally honest. Thanks. Z

People who protest talking about sex to me have the most problems sexually. Palin is just another ignorant woman; I am guessing she did not know about how babies were made until she was pregnant. As for her position on abortion;. How can you be pro life and live with the suffering poor. How can you be pro life when you do not support a minimum wage for working families? On and on. How can she be pro Life?

Too bad Hillary was not chosen to be VP candidate, if only for the entertainment value of watching her take Palin apart during the debates.

Geez. This is terrible. In response to many comments - She may represent a great many Americans beliefs, but I'm not entirely sure that we should be proud of that. Also, WOW! I am an Obama supporter, but I liked John McCain just fine until he chose this woman in a misguided attempt to be a maverick. And yes, watching Hillary Clinton eat her alive would have been good for a few minutes, but I feel that it would become painful all too soon.

shes a retard. a female W

Our next vp appears sort of vague, vapid, vacillating, vacuous and voluable, when she verifies she is a voracious viewer of a "vast variety" of vicarious, veritas containing news venues, like, "The Wasilla Whines Weekly," that provide vivid, vocal vision to our valiant, yet vacant, varmit hunting, putatively potential, next president. :)

Whoever votes for a Muslim, deserves what they get. In "his" book he said: He will defend the Muslims...hello!! It says in the bible: Judge not..you must not have read that part...Palin did. She is being gracious, others choose to be hateful and judgemental.

What makes any of you Obama lovers think that HE is qualified to be President? He isn't even qualified to be in the U.S. Senate.

"Those who don't read are no better off than those who can't read." - Mark Twain (from Steven Covey)

Dick Cheney gets all of his news from FOX and other biased sources. What does the country think of him?

I read:
LA Times
Washington Post
AP
Bloomberg
Financial Times (London's Wall Street Journal)
TIME magazine

Do I read them all? No. I scan news.google.com and look at the sources.

That took me all of six seconds to type. Palin appears very disingenuous when she says "all kinds of papers" after struggling and tripping over the question.

Sarah - If elected, who will you shoot in the face?

Hoodlum, you wrote Joe Biden "did not know that TV had yet to be invented in 1929"?

Please check Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television

because TV was invented in 1884, and by 1929 people had transmitted a motion picture film over TV.

Zurawik wrote:

"Hi, Thanks. I have been hitting that same thought hard since this blog started two and half weeks ago: This is the job of the press, and there is none more important right now than giving us reliable information about the candidates who say they can lead us out of the crisis in which this nation now finds itself come January. Thanks. Z"

This I just HAD to respond to. I say "Absolutely" "Right On" and "yes!"

Recently I have been talking to my friends in both parties, and I am getting more and more concerned, not about any particular flub or controversy on any particular candidate, but the fact that we and the media go ballistic over any little thing about them, and yet we seem to have NO unbiased reporting. Yes, I suppose I could go out to Arizona or Illinois or Alaska .myself. to check up on all the accusations that are flying around, but I can't. That *is* the job of the reporters and the media, and getting the facts, facts alone, reliably, seems to be getting more and more impossible. Thank you, Z, for working in that direction.

Hi, Tom, and thanks for the comment. Hopefully, reporters and editors who read the blog will see that there is an appetite for this kind of information. The fact that it is the duty of the press in a democracy to provide such information should be enough for us to make it Job One in an election like this. But in case duty isn't enough, I also believe such good journalism can be good business, because viewer-citizens are looking for it and will gravitate to the channel that offers it. Thanks. Z

It sound like she is true red conservative with real conservative values. I`d like to know how come liberals always bring up insest and rape. I would love for someone to give me the statics on how many abortions are performed on woman that where raped or pregnant by insests. I would also love to to have the stats on woman who have killed more then one baby by abortion. I love Palin and totally agree with her views on abortion its a life stupid. You decided to have sex and yes the man should have some say in the matter. Its funny if the guy don`t want the kid he gets stuck with child paying child support for 21 years. But if he knocks a woman up and she decides to have the abortion he has no say. Give me break already. Abortion is never an option NEVER. Its killing no matter how you look at it. McCain/Palin got my vote

Why is abortion always brought up in elections and thought of as such an important topic. Since when has a politicians views on abortion ever swayed an election. It always brought up but never given a second thought while in the booth.

It offends me when I hear how women identify with Sarah Palin. I don't identify with her at all. I don't kill animals or eat mooseburgers, and I do not belong to NRA. I really believe she has set women back a hundred years. It scares the hell out of me that she could be VP, or even President, It is absolutely a scary thought. When it comes to newspapers and magazines, you have to know how to read....right?

It has become very obvious that Palin was brought in to try and get the female vote. I think it has back fired and that Palin has really hurt the party. The only thing I do see as a positive with Palin is that unlike Bush she can read, and she can read all kinds of different stuff. Do you really want this woman standing next in line when you have a President as old as McCann? Palin should return to her job at McD's and the party should just pack it in until next time.

It is very interesting how many Republican men I know who think Palin is a perfect choice for VP. You can cite to them all her media gaffes, her fondness for killing animals for sport, her inexperience, her not obtaining a passport until a couple of years ago, her inability to name a newspaper she has read, her lack of knowledge concerning the "Bush Doctrine", her ignorance of the fact that people are born gay- they don't choose it, the fact that she has 5 children, one of whom has special needs and one who is a pregnant teen (which you would think would take up a lot of her time), the fact that she says she is for contraception but is against the morning-after-pill, (which by the way is just a high-dose birth control pill and not abortion), the fact that McCain chose her as VP after ONE DINNER and yet none of this fazes them in the slightest. She could literally say ANYTHING in an interview/debate and they would still praise her and blame the "liberal-media" journalist for asking a normal question. They then call women against Palin sexist. They are the ones who are sexist as they obviously know electing Palin would set women back 100 years. Women and children would lose control over their own bodies. If McCain does win, which I very much doubt, his poor health record is well-known, do American men really feel comfortable having this brainless twit potentially become our Commander in Chief??

Hi, I think you are right about her appeal to a certain kind of male voter. Thanjks. Z

Jody, Jody, Jody - get a grip and then some shock treatment. Unlike you, many of the intelligent republicans are finally speaking out about the pitbull from the north. Do you really want a man or woman so ileducated about economics and foreign affairs to possibly be the next president? I can just see the media saying there was a horrible accident and John McCain's head was blown off because Palin thought what se saw was an albino ferret, come to find out it was mister pasty-face or is that mr two-faced.. Sarah Palin is nothing but a George Bush in drag and she's even dummer than he is, and look where that's gotten us. You have a right to vote for whomever you please, but remember voting for someone like her is like voting for a new kind of Hitler - you know where books are burned, people are burned and a nation and humanity is scarred for many generations.

JB

Hey Jody, sorry to be so harsh. I should have been even more. By your name I can't know if your are a man or a woman. What kind of name is Jody- Male or female. If you are either, you didn't have the choice when you were born nor did you have the choice of you race, so why do you think that a gay peson, which is an offensive term, chose to be gay. Maybe God - you know the one you've be dogmatized by in church, just said hey here's another person that is part of the mix. I didn't choose to be gay any more than you chose to be intellectually defiecient. Would you honestly think that something so ggreat as a God_figure would give a good crap about who's loving who?

JB

What was Senator McCain thinking when he selected Sarah Palin. I was undecided on the election until McCain made such an odd selection for VP.

Those of you who feel Palin is unqualified should learn about about the qualifications, and gaffes, of former U.S. presidents and vice presidents. You might be surprised.

Being gay is definitely a choice. Why don't people believe that she has a gay friend? Oh, because that would be one less whining point for the democrats. Palin answered the questions as well as any other candidate would. So, she made a joke about Biden's age. Big deal. I guess the elitist Obama worshipers don't have a sense of humor.

Also, it's really interesting that a lot of the comparisons have been between the republican vp nominee and the democratic presidential nominee. Seems as though you people are intimidated by a mere soccer mom.

MUSLIM? obviously you are a misinformed individual. Barrack IS NOT a muslim! His DEAD father was...that does NOT make him a muslim and if you think he is you ARE AN IDIOT

nOONE CHOOSES TO BE ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX BUT THEY DO CHOOSE TO act UPON THOSE DESIRES. OTHERWISE A PEDOPHILE CAN SAY THIS IS NOT A CHOICE!! tHE CHOICE IS ACTING UPON THE ABNORMAL DESIRES. SORRY FOR ALL CAPS DON'T FEEL LIKE RETYPING!! LOL

Pablo, you and Jody should get together and create a PAC for the next idiot that runs for an office as a Republican You Yahoo, don't you realize that you don't choose to be gay you are born that way just like neing born, black or female or male or whatever. Obviously, you didn't have a choice being born into a family that is either Hispanic or Latino (I may be assuming too much, but most non-hispanics don't name their child Pablo unless maybe they were wanna-be painters) Get a grip Yutz!

If you choose to be gay you are a sick person. If you are born gay, you can't help it. We should not be having this discussion. That's why we should separate church from state and vice versa. The Christian Right is neither!

Sorry to burts your bubble Palin but homosexuality is NOT a choice. Why would someone want to choose to be part of a society that is so badly hated?? Im gay I never had a choice. I was born the way I am and im proud. There is no way to turn someone straight. Idiots. I know God will except me for who I am.

And to Bruiser, im not going to live a sad and lonley life with no partner and be boring.

Really, Sarah Palin for VP?

A CHOICE.

that's all i have to say...

um, excuse me, but to all of you up there saying how badly sarah palin is, maybe you need to get a better grip on reality. sarah palin is possibly the best choice for a v.p.

she doesn't believe in abortion, which i think is a GOOD thing! i mean, how could you live with yourselves knowing that you killed a BABY! A PART OF YOU! you're all so DUMB!!!!

oh yeah, and homosexuality? yeah, it's a choice. no one was born with it.
look it up in the bible. idiots.

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About David Zurawik
I've been The Baltimore Sun's TV critic since 1989. My writings on TV and media have appeared in such publications as TV Guide, Esquire magazine and American Journalism Review. I have a Ph.D. in American Studies from the University of Maryland, College Park, and an M.A. in specialized reporting (on popular culture) from the University of Wisconsin. I'm the author of The Jews of Prime Time (Brandeis University Press), a look at 50 years of Jewish characters and identity on network TV. I have also been with WYPR-FM (88.1) radio since 1994 and can be heard Thursday mornings at 7:30 doing a weekly "Take on Television" report.
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