Indie fans get enough excitement from the music that they don't want or need onstage antics.

the problem is, unfortunately so, that any kids unselfconscious or secure i.e. not cool enough who show their gratitude and love for life and music are still lump-loaded into the dj cultrue...after over 20 yrs this scene should have died and by now had a nostalgic resurgence...but these excited yet unimaginative ones must be frightened to death by the apathetic and blase scene they encounter when going to see live music and yet who can blame the hipsters when there is nothing new under the sun. color me bitter, but it is time for something other than this 80s rehashed moment. kids, please, mix it up....stop calling your " emo movement" anything outright! Get a set and start something fresh that we can all get excited about

I suspect it is a combination of high concept bands that appeal to a niche market playing before a blase audience that has a history of amusements (i.e. television, music videos, computer games, etc) that don't response to feedback and present greater visual interest than these bands can or willing to provide.

I think a fair number of indie bands regard playing more in terms of a recital than performace with an accent on being entertaining.

I recently read that Marc Bolan of T. Rex would usually put an all out effort every time to he played to win over the audience whether it was a stadium crowd or the recording engineer and the record producer in the studio booth.

I wonder, if like Billy Joel, they video recorded their live shows they would realize their being boring and act on the fact they need to do something of interest to appeal and engage a greater degree of the audience's passion and attract new fans.

Bottom line they need to go out and sell themseves to the faith who buy their recordings and incite the casual attendee to come to future performance and buy their next release.

If they truly belief cool, hip detachment from their audience is all need to do, I guess their prospects will never rise.

I suspect it is a combination of high concept bands that appeal to a niche market playing before a blase audience that has a history of amusements (i.e. television, music videos, computer games, etc) that don't response to feedback and present greater visual interest than these bands can or willing to provide.

I think a fair number of indie bands regard playing more in terms of a recital than performace with an accent on being entertaining. I would think they would approach every performance like a first date with someone they want to see again.

I recently read that Marc Bolan of T. Rex would usually put an all out effort every time to he played to win over the audience whether it was a stadium crowd or the recording engineer and the record producer in the studio booth.

I wonder, if like Billy Joel, they video recorded their live shows they would realize their being boring and act on the fact they need to do something of interest to appeal and engage a greater degree of the audience's passion and attract new fans.

Bottom line they need to go out and sell themseves to the faithful who buy their recordings and incite the casual attendee to come to future performance and buy their next release.

If they truly belief cool, hip detachment from their audience is all need to do, I guess their prospects will never rise.

I posted this before but I think needs to be repeated from the Pere Ubu site.

"The Ubu Projex Corporate Slogan:
Ars longa, spectatores fugaces (Art is forever, an audience short-lived or the audience transitory)"

Define indie --
Arcade Fire are on an independent label and put on one of the most impressive live shows I have ever seen.