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April 2, 2010

Little Italy old-timers vs. hipster Milan

MilanIt's neighbor against neighbor in Little Italy -- again.

This time the battle is not over bocce court lighting, or hip-hop parties at Velleggia's.

Details are fuzzy, but this much is known: it's old-timers against a hipster newcomer.

The Little Italy Community Organization is asking the city not to renew Milan's liquor license.


Once a year, neighbors have the opportunity to protest liquor-license renewals. All it takes is signatures from 10 people who live or work near a licensee, and the Baltimore Liquor Board will schedule a hearing.

The board hold these hearings in April, and the deadline for requesting them was the other day. The board got petitions related to at least 10 nightclubs, but only one restaurant: Milan.

There will be a hearing April 15 on whether to revoke Milan's license. It's not clear what the neighbors' gripe is.  I left messages for the Little Italy Community Organization, which led the petition effort, but no one called me back.

Peter Mooradian, Milan's general manager, said this via e-mail:

"I received notice this afternoon of the Little Italy community’s concerns regarding Milan. As you may know, we have made significant efforts since our December opening to be a valued addition to the Little Italy area. We take concerns raised by the community very seriously and have worked diligently with them over the past several months to respond to their feedback and advice. We will continue to work as closely as we can with the residents and businesses to strike an appropriate balance between their needs and ours."

I asked him what the group's complaint was, but he did not reply.

Just a guess here, but maybe the old-timers are ticked off because Milan takes euros, not lire. Or maybe it's because the restaurant serves sushi, not red sauce and meatballs

Old-timers could be annoyed because the restaurant attracts the likes of Vivica Fox, not Tony Bennett. Personally, I'd rather meet Tony, but I don't hold that against Milan.

Milan's Scottish Salmon with Lemon Caper Aioli, Yellowfin Tuna with Red Pepper Oil and Sea Salt; White Tuna with Lemon Oil and Pine Nuts. Sun photo by Algerina Perna

Posted by Laura Vozzella at 11:00 AM | | Comments (158)
        

Comments

I've been to Milan and really enjoyed it! I think it is a great addition to Little Italy. It is definitely a different atmosphere compared to the other restaurants/bars in the area. It isn't a place you go to get a bowl of spaghetti and meatballs. There are plenty of those places in Little Italy. I wouldn't be surprised if other businesses feel threatened by Milan and are feeling a hit in their wallets.

Hey...Fahgetabahdit

As hesitant as the Liquor Board has been to come down on some of the city's more notorious night spots, do Milan's neighbors really expect the Board to give Euro-pean pasteria the heave-ho?

I just looked at their website and from the background music playing to the menus, it certainly is different from any restaurant I have experienced in Little Italy.

I have never in recent memory felt that I needed to return to any Little Italy.

I now think I have to try Milan on my next visit back to Bmore.

I would much rather met Vivica A. Fox!!

I would much rather meet Vivica A. Fox!!

typical

What next? Those cranky Little Italians won't want an abattoir there either.

Flagrant misuse of the word hipster. Ten yard penalty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(contemporary_subculture)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I guess this is the first draft for the new Godfather movie. Someone should inform the Milian group that this story has already been told and the outcome might not be in Milian favor.

Word Ref -

From the article you linked to, hipsters are described by some as "smug, full of contradictions and, ultimately, the dead end of Western civilization".

So what was the flagrant misuse of the word?

As a hipster, I object to the title. I've never seen anyone in Milan wearing an ironic t-shirt or listening to Badly Drawn Boy.

Least likely argument ever to be heard at Milan: Which Belle and Sebastien album rocked hardest.

Wevs

I've eaten at Milan twice and both times the food and service was outstanding. Granted, both times were Sunday nights, so it was relatively quiet. I'm very curious as to what goes on Fri and Sat nights.

LL, I think you're too into the hip-hop world to grok that.

Golden West is full of hipsters. The Venn diagram of GW slackers and Milan patrons is the null set in so many ways. No judgments, just saying.

After years and years of dealing with the shenanigans of the hooligans who frequent another Little Italy restaurant, there seems to be some paranoia that this element is creeping closer and closer....

2nd least likely argument ever to be heard- McCain or Obama?

I am not a "Little Italy old-timer" as you so eagerly and ignorantly assume. On the contrary, I am a young, working professional who lives and owns a home very close to this restaurant and I care about the health and success of my community. Milan moved into the area hyping itself as a high end Italian restaurant, what it is a club hiding under the pretense that it is a restaurant. Every Monday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday from 10:00 till 2:00 - 2:30, all we hear is thumping music, drunkards yelling, the metal garage door being beaten on (because the Exeter side of the garage closes) and horns blowing because the valets block both lanes of traffic on Eastern and Exeter.

We are not "ticked off because Milan takes Euros, not lire" or because "the restaurant serves sushi, not red sauce and meatballs". We are upset because the operators of this establishment ignore the communities concerns. The operators do not address our concerns, they say one thing and do another. This ‘restaurant’ already has three full bars operating and are planning on opening the basement level with yet another bar. Tell me, would you want this in your community? We would happily welcome a restaurant with owners who are invested in the area and listen to the neighbors thoughts, opinions and complaints, not ones that are here only to make a couple bucks, tear up the neighborhood fabric and leave us to clean up the mess once the nostalgia wears off.

One more item --- I just received the notification below. Tell me this is typical for a restaurant.

THE WEATHER'S BROKE AND MILAN IS THE PLACE TO BE FOR THE SPRING AND SUMMER. 80 DEGREES ON FRIDAY!! WE'LL HAVE THE PATIO OPEN AND TABLES OUTSIDE ARE SELLING FAST. CALL ASAP TO RESERVE.

BOTTLE SPECIALS
$150 Finlandia (1 liter)
$150 Grey Goose (.750 liter)

For dinner or VIP table reservations call
Rob (443)618-2332
Bobby (410)707-8500
Nino (443)538-4949

****Private rooms available for your next special event

21 for ladies 23+ for men

Men unaccompanied by women not permitted after 10:30 (Tables excluded)

Men must be in a collared shirt or sports coat, no tennis shoes of any kind.

You don't see the word "drunkards" enough these days. Glad to see it again.

Please let us stop beating around the bush, the Little Italy neighbors and business owners do not like the "urban" crowd that Milan attracts. It is unfortunate, but Baltimore will never be like DC, Philly or NY where people of all races go out and have a good time together.

I heard (second-hand) that the owner told LICO that he got rave restaurant reviews in Baltimore Magazine and the Sun. Did I miss something? I just checked BMag and no review. I haven't seen one in the Sun either.

This begs the question: Why not? All I've seen is useless blogger reviews who had their dinners paid for and were announced ahead of time.

It seems like a job for intrepid gourmaniac and hat aficionado Richard Gorelick.

@ Teppslaw --- Are you kidding me? Are you going to make this a race issue? You are a fool if that is what you are thinking. How do you know I am not 'urban' as you call it? People of all races go out and have a good time all over this city - I am not sure what bubble you live in. Grow up and stop resorting to the race card when you cannot think of an intelligent response. The issue at hand is that Milan needs to be a responsible neighbor and address the issues we (residents of Little Italy) have brought to their attention.

LIBaltimoreFan -- I think many neighborhoods across Baltimore struggle with the same thing that you describe. I'm sure residents of Fells Point, Canton, and Federal Hill deal with loud music, noise, and drunk and obnoxious people every weekend. Before moving in to those neighborhoods that is something you have to accept or just don't live there. I understand you were an existing resident of Little Italy, but you live in the city with other bars and restaurants in your neighborhood. What do you expect? Now the idea of Milan marketing itself as a restaurant, bar, lounge, or nightclub is a different story. You have an establishment with alcohol in a neighborhood. Honestly, did you not think it was going to be loud and never a chance of drunk people making noise?

LIBaltimoreFan, How did you receive that notice?

First, I am sad to see that the weather is broke. (And apparently their caps lock button is broked too).

Up until this moment I gave Milan the benefit of the doubt, but duh, that's a club announcement.

For fun I looked up Milan on Facebook. There are two listings for the same place:
MILAN
Club
641 Fans

MILAN
Restaurant/Cafe
518 Fans

The FB club site was posted at the beginning of February. The FB restaurant/cafe version was posted almost a month later

Men unaccompanied by women not permitted after 10:30 (Tables excluded)

Say what? Where do I start?

A "restaurant" where men have to be 23 to eat there? But women who are 21 are allowed. Outside tables with bottles of vodka on the table?

It's a club with food. Come on, let's be real. That was clearly the intention from the start.

It is quite obvious the only people commneting in a negative fashion about this place Milan are the competition and the basic cowardly racist who will throw out everything but the obvious in a silly attempt to disguise their blatant bias. People like you all make me sick. I frequent pretty much all the restaurants in Little Ital, (especialy Della Notte) and they all offer a unique experience, I've only been to Milan once but the food and service was EXCELLENT! I'm an older guy but I felt quite comfortable with the younger "Hip" crowd. The lovely women patronizing the place didn't hurt either! ;D

Fully agree with LIBaltimoreFan. Noise as never been an issue in LIttle Italy so you can't say "What did you expect buying a house there?" While that argument might work in Federal Hill or Canton, it doesn't fly in Little Italy. Most restaurants are respectful of the neighbors to which they share the streets with. In its dealings with its neighborhood, the restaurant has been arrogant and dismissive. They don't seem to care about the disruptions that their restaurant causes at 2am, nor do they seem to care about double parking the owner's Maserati because he doesn't want it going in the parking lot. The bottom line is that this restaurant does not belong in Little Italy, period.

Grey Goose and Finlandia for $150? This place has DB written all over it.

Only two kinds of people are into vodka bottle service: Cossacks and tools. And I doubt you'll see any fur hats at Milan this weekend.

Sam Sessa spoke to Liquor Board Chairman Stephan Fogelman about the age and sex discrimination issue. There is a post on MIdnight Sun about it.

Very good question. Why hasn't any reputable publication reviewed the restaurant? Seems suspicious for a place getting so much attention.

Milan's arrival was preceded by a D@L discussion last September. Back then, three months before the place opened, a small number of people were making multiple posts under different aliases in an effort to promote it. Even then, the LI neighbors were wary of what was about to come. It looks like their fears came true.

Yikes.

At the last LICO meeting, the operators of Milan repeatedly stated they did not have a promoter and that if anyone was promoting Milan they had no affiliation with them and were not on their payroll. Really? There is just a company trying to promote Milan and is not getting paid? It was obviously just more lies.

http://www.jetsetmafia.com/EvDescription.asp?eventID=590

Anyone who doesn't like this eurotrash lounge is clearly not a true American.

we have the same problem in south baltimore, all you have to do is replace the word Milan with another "upscale" restaurant that turns into a nightclub at night., They have a lot in common with the residents in the area.

http://www.baltimorecity.gov/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=csLZcGJurlQ%3d&tabid=708&mid=2524

Another Sun divisive piece. Sadly, this will be judged as a success since they only care about clicks and readers. I am pretty sure this is not "hipster" club, as "hipster" co-notates a entirely different crowd.

In fact, as someone else pointed out, no "hipster" would be caught dead in this place. It is actually anti-hipster. I'm from Gen-X and know the difference.

We mumble disapprovingly under our breath at being associated with a cheesy faux Euro-trash "ultra lounge". No tennis shoes or ironic t-shirts allowed? It is to laugh, or better, snicker dismissively. My Hello Kitty sock puppet scorns such piffle.

$150 for a bottle of Grey Goose?
Ha ha ha. Hilarious site called DBs love Grey goose. Fist pump!

No man without a woman also excludes gay men. Can't be that fabulous.

For those of you that have never left Baltimore:
Club = Dancing

Milan has no dancing therefore it is not a club. It is that simple.

What, there's no dancing at Milan?

Well, there goes my mental image.

well I can tell you dont know what you are talking about just cause it's no dancing dont mean it's not a club no your facts first on the other hand people in that area knew what was surrounding the houses when they move in. The blowing the horn and loud music the owners of the nightclub would not allow that on there street

well I can tell you dont know what you are talking about just cause it's no dancing dont mean it's not a club no your facts first on the other hand people in that area knew what was surrounding the houses when they move in. The blowing the horn and loud music the owners of the nightclub would not allow that on there street

BaltBabs- yes, and it is jaw-droppingly beautiful. I'm glad I got in to see it.

Other than that, I'm just going to say "Amen, brothers" to LIBaltimoreFan and Tony D.

Tony D(eFranco)--

Get back to work. I do not pay you to comment on Twitter and Dining@Large all day, do I, counselor?

Thanks to the shill at 7:55 I will now have a new pair of UGG boots for $50.
But I digress...

I was hoping that someone would define, for the group of course, the boundary lines of Little Italy. Lord knows I don't want to call LI, Harbor East and vice versa.

I drove by Milan tonight on my way to dinner at Salt. I have to say , it sticks out like a sore thumb but I'm relatively indifferent to it. HOWEVER, I agree that anything with bottle service = club . I'm not complaining, I've even paid for a bottle out of pure desperation at another Bmore "club". It's just my opinion but I feel that if you are charging for bottle service at any point of the evening, you intend on being a club.

Kristen- According to the Little Italy Community Organization (LICO) By-Laws as of June 21, 2005:

"The boundaries of this Organization shall be Pratt Street (North), Eden Street-400 block both sides (East), East Falls (West), and Fleet Street (South)."

Hipsters wouldn't be caught dead at a phoney facade of an "establishment" like this, now Douchebags, yea they would form lines to get into a place like this wearing tons of ed hardy t-shirtsl, and making sure to have plenty of hair gel, while quoting the jersey shore for their facebook update via blackberry. and the ladies well like omg lets all dress and look alike and pretend we are having a fun time, and take pictures and post them online instantly

Dear Friends:

Milan lied to us. In our community association meeting in April of 2009 the manager of Milan told us that the only bar he would operate after his kitchen closed (11:00 pm) was the basement pub, seating approximately 25 people. Because of this lie, we supported his application for a liquor licence allowing him to stay open until 1:00am.

Today, he promotes his entire second and third floor, seating over two hundred people as a nightclub, selling tables, providing bottle service, and providing adult entertainment (under 23 not allowed, unless a single girl), and staying open until 2:00 am four or more nights a week.

We have spent many hours scraping hundres of "jetsetmafia" stickers (Milan's "promotion company") off of our lightposts, mailboxes and signposts. We do this because we love our community and hope to make it a happy home for our children.

Our children are kept awake at night on school nights by his patrons, yelling and screaming, throwing trash and breaking bottles on our streets until 3:00 AM on Sundays, Mondays, Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays.

We have in our neighborhood many families. Less than two blocks from this "CLUB", are families with pre-scool children, a preschool, an elementary parochial school, and a community church - less than two blocks.

This morning, we watched, horrified, as elderly citizens walk to mass through the piles of trash and broken bottles left in our streets by Milan's late-night patrons.

There are over sixty "restaurants" within walking distance of our family community. NONE of them - not a single one:

1. Have non-food LOUNGES that seat more than 20 people (Milan seats 150 people) in their NON-FOOD lounge, and a potential 200 more downstairs AFTER the dining room has closed.
2. Sell lounge tables and bottle service for THREE HOURS AFTER the kitchen has closed.
3. Promote themselves through fliers, stickers, websites etc as a "NIGHTCLUB EXPERIENCE".

In our community association meeting in February of 2010, the manager of Milan laughed at us. He said "we don't promote as a nightclub". When a citizen called up the "jetsetmafia" website that said "come experience the best nightclub in Baltimore at Milan", he said, "that's not my website." Really, it isn't? The website is registered - by name - to one of his employees.

Milan's manager said, none of this is facts. if you don't have facts you can't prove anything.

What kind of person says something like that?

Later, in a private conversation, he was heard to say "I'm connected with the Mayor, I don't need Little Italy approval to run my club."

Please don't run down Little Italy for this. What is happenning really is a bad thing for our community. We were lied to, betrayed, and belittled and scoffed at when we asked for accomodation.

If Milan wants to be a restaurant, they can close at 11:00 like every other of sixty restraunts in our area. If they want "a nightclub experience" until 2:00 am they need to go somewhere else.

Thank you,

Sincerely Concerend Citizen

For 100 years, there was no problem with Little Italy. It was a safe, quiet neighborhood. The restaurants and bars, lady, Mrs. Baltimore Babs, they kept quiet. They still do. You sayin' that my great nana shouldn't have moved in? That my niece shouldn't have moved back to the neighborhood, "knowing" there were nice family restaurants nearby?

You know what we did back in the day on those very, very few occasions when some of that Milan type crowd would try something? It involved some muscle from New York and New Jersey who would come down and some Hefty bags. People knew not to mess with us! That's why it's stupid to say we should have known what we were getting into when we bought homes here. We were here 100 years! 100 years! You can take your clubs and put them on North Ave. or route 40 or Edmonson Ave. I don't care. Keep the clubs out of Little Italy, unless it's the VFW, God bless the vets.

You don't like us or our way of life? Stay the frig out then. We don't need you. We'll be here 100 years after you're gone.

If we could just call some boys down from New Jersey or New York now and do with Milan's liquor license like we did with trouble back in the day. I'm sure it'd fit in a Hefty bag out back.

Douchebags, yea they would form lines to get into a place like this wearing tons of ed hardy t-shirtsl, and making sure to have plenty of hair gel, while quoting the jersey shore for their facebook update via blackberry. and the ladies well like omg lets all dress and look alike and pretend we are having a fun time, and take pictures and post them online instantly

Cummon now, Nowhere in Baltimore is like that!

milan, milan, milan. what lies! you guys knew the entire time that you were creating a club. you swore under oath that promoters would not be used, and what do you do, in less than 24 hours after opening, prompters, promoters, promoters!! your lies, your smugness, your vehicles parked on the sidewalks or on other peoples properties, your tying up the flow of traffic and preventing other businesses from earning a living is NOT" working" with the community. You have a CLUB, and then, stand in front of us and lie, and laugh and spit in the face of the liqour board who put on the record that you were to have NO PROMOTERS. We don't oppose MILAN the RESTAURANT, we OPPOSE MILAN the "CLUB". Stop your hoodwinken. We're not stupid!

Milan lies,
Milan lies,
Milan lies,
when it cries.

When it cries.

I remember sketchy mcgoo sitting at the end of bars in the neighborhood restauraunts trying to recruit people with his fly sunglasses in a dark bar. My group at the bar still laugh at that ass.

Milan lies,
when it cries.

OMG's written sixty-five songs. Sixty-five!

They're all about Milan!

They're all about losing a liquor license!

This place should have been on CENTRAL AVE.!

Oh, did Milan's owner say he's "in with the Mayor"? Um, was that before the snowstorm? ;) Because the new mayor is a lawyer and due to how she got her position, is probably not open to the shenanigans and sneakiness of Milan. So, he'd best watch his p's and q's and make nice nice to the neighbors. If not, he can be one of many, many, many, many restaurants/clubs which get raided and fail.

OMG's written sixty-five songs. Sixty-five!

Brilliant.

Also, I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed at Milan. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.

So here's an idea. Put a web cam or video camera in one of the house across the street. First, you would have documentation and video is compelling compare to verbal testimony. Second, if you make the camera known, it might help to prevent disturbances by having Milan police their turf better.

My Sicilian grandmother was tough as they come and mean as well. Get the old Italian ladies after them!

Cant really understand what all these comments are about. I am a food and wine lover who only frequents the best restaurants in Baltimore, and Milan by far is one of the best.
I found an extensive food and wine menu led by the creative 'sushi italiano,' which I found to be incredibly innovative and quite delicious, as well as a full dinner menu with high end steak house and seafood offerings - and of course Italian classics.
A lively bar and lounge scene, in my opinion, does not make this establishment a "club," it simply means creative ownership and management has found a way to give the Baltimore public what they desire and have been waiting for.

I am quite tired of this topic, but Baltimore Wine Guy, you are as fake as Cleopatra's schnauzer.

Where is a review from a legitimate publication? The complete absence of such is telling.

BWG, you are a shill. Learn to write PR blather better. You guys really suck at it

Sr. Gravy, we are of tired to be your pompositousnous. You're prospospritous word language troubles the the mind scrarape

Baltimore Wine Guy, "do bee" sincere and open about who you are and what you stand for.

It doesn't matter to me if you are serving blowfish on gold leaf -- if your patrons are not behaving themselves, if you are double parking, if the noise is not one you and your loved ones could sleep through, if you are being a general bad boy, please take a time out in the corner... of Garrett County.

Well Nancy, you seem like a real 'stick in the mud' 1965 is not coming back as much as you want it to.
Change happens...
You be sincere and accept that Baltimore is a thriving and ever changing metropolis- that goes for you too Owl Meat.
I assume you both led the charge in the blocking of Harbor East development?
I think isolation would be the best remedy for you and Owl Gravy- there are places for people like you- have you looked into rural Kansas? I hear it's nice in summer...

Also, I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career.

Mike Cameron: I don't know you very well, you know, but I wanted to ask you - how'd you get the Little Italy Neighborhood Association to go along with you?

Lloyd Dobler: I told them it'd only be a restaurant.

Mike Cameron: But how come it worked? I mean, like, what are you?

Lloyd Dobler: I'm Lloyd Dobler.

Mike Cameron: This is great. This gives me hope. Thanks.

Fakey fake fakenstein

Baltimore is a thriving and ever changing metropolis

You PR guys are so lame. Who else talks that way. Blah blah blah jargon jargon non-specific platitudes

Milan, fire that guy and get someone who is not so obvious.

Well Nancy, you seem like a real 'stick in the mud' 1965 is not coming back as much as you want it to.
Change happens...

Of course, change happens.

But how and what changes happen are open to debate in a democratic society.

I fully support new food coming into town, even into relatively insular enclaves like Little Italy.

But the community also has the right to use the tools at its disposal to address community issues that threaten public safety and well-being.

Is Milan being bullied? The evidence presented says that they're the ones who reneged on an agreement with LINA.

The restaurant's supporters can cry about bullying and conspiracy all they want to - but Little Italy has historically been one of the least cooperative places in town for businesses who aren't willing to get with the program, for better or worse.

Without casting judgments, Milan's owners should've known this in the process of opening - and the history that's being told in this thread says that they at least made a good faith effort at first.

If LINA is right, and Milan's operators have decided on a course change - they most definitely picked the wrong neighborhood association to mess with.

* disclaimer: not a Little Italy resident, no ties to Little Italy whatsoever, other than the occasional hankering for osso bucco

Miss Nancy, some get the reference, thank you for reminding us of the looking glass.

" Baltimore Wine Guy" you are either a shill or an incredibly uninformed man. There are no (NONE - Count Em!) Restaurants in Harbor East that run adults-only lounge parties for three hours after the kitchen closes. There are NO restaurants in Harbor East that have bottle service seating for 300 people until 2:00 AM on school nights. None. Putting a club like this in a residential neighborhood two blocks from an elementary school is NOT "progress".

The party's just begun, we'll let you in.
You drive us wild, we'll drive you crazy.
You keep on shoutin', you keep on shoutin',
"I wanna rock and roll all night and party every day!"

Next step, we'll be getting busy AND sick on your doorsteps and there's not a thing you can do!

We're gonna have secret doors where when the liquor board inspectors come, it turns from a gangsta club to ladies' tea room. Just like that! ROFL

And, what better place to do what we do than a residential neighborhood with little quiet traitorias. NO competition.

Try and stop the Kiss Army!

I quake with fear. There is no way to stop the Kiss Army. They're worse than zombies.

Dear Owl Meat Gravy,

After scouting the area, it is our intention to bivouac at your headquarters. Please provide clean towels and snacks from local Little Italy restaurants.

As you are well aware, Milan is primarily a club and not a restaurant. Therefore, we shall require rations of the highest quality. I leave it to your discretion to pick the best of the LI restaurants.

Additionally, it is our intention to drink all the liquor from your liquor cabinet and put our dancing shoes on your furniture.

We will be arriving when club activities for the evening cease -- after 1 am. REPEAT, after club activities cease, NOT when dinner shuts down for the night.

Coming pretty late to this, but...

"Least likely argument ever to be heard at Milan: Which Belle and Sebastien album rocked hardest."

Hipster fail, OMG. Belle and Sebastien never rocks hard.

Oh sean, I think the baby has turned your brain to mush. Duh, of course B&S don't rock hard, they are wimpest band ever (although hipster faves). THAT was the joke. Now if you really want to rock out, try Bright Eyes.
;-P

The problem with Milan isn't the restaurant part. We have lots of restaurants in Little Italy with many respectable patrons coming to our neighborhood. We welcome them.

But what happens with those other people is the noise and the fights and then the criminal element comes. They sit in their cars with the loud music playing. We live in a nice, safe, neighborhood which is for families and children, and they don't need to be coming over here.

But, but, but, OMG, then it should be the least likely argument to be heard at Golden West, see? Cuz folks at Milan wouldn't even know that B&S don't rock, but GW hipsters would. See?

Thanks a lot, sean. Now I've got "The Boy with the Arab Strap" in my head. Grrrrrr... Quick, I need to do something ironic. Ah, eating Honey Bunches of Oats from a Frisbee.

Hey, you started it!

Compared to B&S, Bright Eyes sounds like Cannibal Corpse.

Milan wrote the saddest song.
Showed to LICO today.
Milan, where did you go wrong?
You used to make me smile when I was down.

Boys, boys, it's all pure easy listening.

Thanks a lot, OMG. Now I've got "Hammer Smashed Face" in my head. Grrrrrr...

But, but, but, OMG, then it should be the least likely argument to be heard at Golden West, see? Cuz folks at Milan wouldn't even know that B&S don't rock, but GW hipsters would. See?

Too many levels.

Yeah, Hammer Smashed Face is a catchy little ditty

Death metal Louis Armstrong ... genius

i can see dumb people...they are waiting in line at milan at 10:25 so they can get in

cancer is for kids

After, all the Blogs thats going on about this Restaurant name Milan, I had to check it out for myself. I went with a with male friend to see if I would be able to get in on a Friday around 10:30 pm. We arrived and the Valet informed us about the dress code which was nice and then we proceeded to the front entrance where we were greated again by a door man who politely asked "do you have a reservation sir"

we proceeded to the hostess stand and was greated by some of the most beautiful women i ever seen in baltimore. They must have been Russian or European. that was a pleasant suprise.We had a table out on the Patio and received some of the best service I have ever experienced in a maryland restaurant.I felt like I was in Miami or South of France...what is their not to like about this venue. I had the Seabass and it was great.. The music was melo and the crowd was really diverse.. everyone seamed happy and truely enjoying themselves.

Bottom line...I was going their to post something negative and bash the place. But the place was fabalous... The food... service... and the beautifull blond at the Host stand... Cudos to the person that hired her..... I am now a Milan fan

I did not witness anyone dancing or a club. what I did see was groups of people sitting at tables enjoying a meal and bottles of wine. Some people were sitting at the bar watching espn.

I cannot lie this place is not a club. the loudest thing you heard was the people conversation or someone laughing because their having a good time with friends.

I have ben to Milan twice I don't really see what the big club hype is all about!! My wife and I went Saturday and had a great meal and a wonderful bottle of wine. It is a little different than your typical venue in Little Italy...But trust Little Italy definitely need some change!

Oh, hon.

Just 'cause you try and pretend otherwise, doesn't mean the shillery isn't flagrantly transparent.

Once Again, you sound like you're describing a Balmer County brothel. You're gross! Blech.

Even your SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILLERY is transparent.

captcha (really!) = lousy sandlot

They are really embarrassing themselves now. It's not even fun mocking these minor league shills.

Why do restaurants employee these hacks? It always leads to blow-back. They are so very bad at what they do. The best PR is good word of mouth, unbiased (meaning no paid bloggers) reviews and good community relations.

PR person: you are following a very lame formula that discerning readers can recognize in an instant.

You blew it from the start when you pronounced it the greatest place on earth three or four months before it opened.

The best PR is good word of mouth, unbiased (meaning no paid bloggers) reviews and good community relations.

The sad thing is, one can imagine in today's saturated media that there are plenty of "professionals" who mistake this kind of obviousness for "word of mouth".

More likely, I'm guessing they are amateurs. Friends, or friends of friends of the ownership or management; who I'd be more likely to understand, if not forgive this kind of hackery.

Yes, El G. What they don't realize is that the obvious fake reviews caste doubt on every other genuine one. I will say that Tif is a real person and a very nice guy.

I hope these are amateurs because the spelling, grammar and punctuation below are rough.

we proceeded to the hostess stand and was greated by some of the most beautiful women i ever seen in baltimore. They must have been Russian or European. that was a pleasant suprise.We had a table out on the Patio and received some of the best service I have ever experienced in a maryland restaurant.I felt like I was in Miami or South of France...what is their not to like about this venue. I had the Seabass and it was great.. The music was melo and the crowd was really diverse.. everyone seamed happy and truely enjoying themselves.

Just so many laughable pieces to it. The day I get Eastern Avenue confused with the Côte d'Azur, just shoot me.

melo indeed

The day I get Eastern Avenue confused with the Côte d'Azur, just shoot me.

Wait, so you mean the leathery bewbs and chain smoking aren't locavore!

Quelle surprise!

^.^

Good one, El G. I have a feeling that people who evoke "the South of France" haven't spent much time there.

Of course, the South of France could mean a whorehouse in Marseilles.

Owl Meat Gravy, do you have a job? Do you have a life? I think it might behoof you to focus on one or both of those things instead of worrying if someone is a shill or not. I was very interested in reading the comments until I came across yours. Get a life!

While alot of you have made rather valid issues about Milan i think that alot of your have overlooked the major factors. First off the crowd thats drawn to the neighborhood is not what is wanted lurking around at all times of night. Secondly the disrespect thats being shown to the residents who have grown up and owned businesses and/or residences is unforgivable, and third the blatant lies that are being told when directly confronted. Furthermore making comments about harbor east protests are down right retarded. every piece of property from H&S bakery to Citys Power Sub Station is owned flat out by a single family and has been for decades...LOOK IT UP! not to mention that that area is populated by affluent citizens who don't tear up the area and who know how to act.

I think it might behoof you to focus on one or both of those things instead of worrying if someone is a shill

Behoof? Delicious. LOL.

Your scorn only makes me stronger.

Omg tells it like it is!
Mr. Shill, I have grown to disdain you and Milan. That means you are rude, tiresome, bought and sold. You know what they call people who sell themselves??

-Owl Meat Gravy for Mayor!!!
-Mr./Ms. Shill for Nothing!!!

Shill, you are a TOOL!

What John said.

I, for one, welcome our new strigiform overlords.

And, for what it's worth -- losing at teh Intartoobs! isn't a certain sign that you lose at life.

But atrocious language skills are.

Join me, El Gen, in the Strigiforce Rebellion. If we feed them Lance crackers and beer I think we can get the Kiss Army on board, plus I know a zombie wrangler.

I say cut out the wrangler.

Nothing you can't get done with a chainsaw, Ace Frehley's severed fret hand on a stick, and some glittered platform boots.

At least, I think that's what Mary Shelley was talking about, anyways.

No crackers- edible or social- this week.

Cracka, pleeez!

You know what you need? A BUNCH of little old ladies showing up at public hearings. Mama mia!

some of the most beautiful women i ever seen in baltimore. They must have been Russian or European

I don't want to blow your mind, but they may have been both Russian and European. You see the Ural Mountains...oh I'll just stop now.

Mr. Politics-

Count on it. Last time they did this, they rented a bus. These ladies aren't kidding around.

Captcha reminds us to think of those caught in the middle: The staffers

Milan is the classiest, most luxurious, best restaurant to eat ever.

Similarly, their women are the classiest, most luxurious, best women to, yeah, well.

This is a classy family type blog.

A bus? Hell no, we're taking our pickup truck brigade down there at 10:45 on Friday and taking it over. NO MEN! Bring it gyno-americans!!! Take back the night. LESBIANS RULE AT MILAN!!!!!

Are these "my" kind of ladies, or Chaz Bono?

So, when's this place gonna be something else? Soon?

I think this could be the best Lesbian club ever

Barbarella, you may be right. Check you on the flipside...

OMG

I think the McCain vs Obama parallel is most appropriate.
I work with local politics, so I prefer to stat anonymous. But I will say this, Obama was initially ridiculed for using Facebook and other non-traditional means to campaign….
It was the young people and people willing to think differently that elected Obama (not Black people).
I’ve witnessed several of Little Italy’s residents enjoying Milan… but are these young and people willing to think differently willing to stand up to their parents…
Hopefully for Milan, the outcome will be more like our great country’s last Presidential Election… And less like “the Godfather”…
Sincerely,
Not Young, but Willing to Think Differently

Hey, Anonymous!

Let's get rid of everything historical and traditional RIGHT NOW!

Let's get rid of The Prime Rib, the city of Annapolis, Ellicott City, Little Italy.

Anonymous, let's make the whole F'ing world Towson Town Mall. You know what was new in its day? The Gallery. Have you seen it lately? It's a ghost town... I hear the tumbleweed blowing through there.

I'm a young man and I recognize the need for stability and traditions. That's what makes a neighborhood. I imagine not 5 Harbor East couples know each other.

Thanks for bringing on change that wipes out character. And you know what? I don't care how you vote, you DB.

Hey Milan, how's that hopey changey thing workin' out for ya?

As someone who voted for Obama I am so appalled by "Not Young, but Willing to Think Differently's" comment so much that I have to believe it's a joke. I'll take a teabagger's BS over yours any day, honey. At least they know in their hearts they're a lost cause.

Careful, Sarah P - you just might bring about the Apocalypse...

Anonymous, if I were to come into your house and redecorate -- by putting every single thing you have on the lawn and letting the patrons of CLUB MILAN pick through it, would that redecoration be a nice change for you?

Or do you actually think that the patrons of CLUB MILAN are so neighborly, genteel, and considerate as to not touch your things?

What is Connecticut slang for DB? Never mind, I'm originally from New Jersey, so I recognize DB's when I see them. And you, Sir, are 100% authentic, true-blue but not rare, DB!

What is Connecticut slang for DB?

Yalie.

Bazinga!

I don't know what DB means.

feminine hygiene product + bag

Can we cool it with the feminine hygiene humor? It's so fifth grade. LV

I don't know what DB means.

Here are some visual aids

Jersey RULEZ!!!

...and an example from a grocery store.

Thanks for answering my question, friends.

It is a testament to your ladylike grace that you are not conversation in the patois of ruffians.

hands down the funniest response for this post was when Sarah Palin chimed in. I just burst out laughing.

Lord Marm, I think you might need to look at that sentence again...

sean, noun, adjective--what's a little loose verbiage among friends?

Ok, conversant then, you cads.

Milan is a great resturant..............

Milan is out of this world ...

Milan is a way cool hip club!

When Lovie and I want to take a classy three hour tour, we bust out some moves to the deep funk groove at Milan. Oh yeah, we've been there twice, of course.

What Dr. Bombay said.

Lord Marm, you were just affecting the patois of ruffians, weren't you?

I interviewed back there in September, I was told that the plan was to open as a restaurant, but late night it would be a South Beach style nightclub. I'm glad I went somewhere else. It has been funny occasionally running across the same shills in this blog as in the earlier ones regarding the poorly written ad on craigslist. I wonder if they still have the best mop closet ever!!!!!

South Beach style nightclub? I'm going to have to have my publicist look into that!

At last, a low-card night club!

Who is "the best mop closet ever" supposed to attract, Anon.?

The mop closet comment was a funny comment from back in September when shills were saying it was the most beautiful facility on earth before it even opened.

Yes, I vaguely remember that, OMG--but I am still wondering who gets all excited about mop closets--?

Well, no one does, that's the joke. The writer was making fun of the shills' exaggerations by making an absurd exaggeration.

Oh, duh. A little slow on the uptake today. Time for more caffeine!

How dare you malign my favorite restaurant of all time! I've been there TWICE. The first time, it was an excellent restaurant.

The second time, it was the VERY BEST CLUB in Baltimore!

Bazinga!

I ain't going there. I don't like a club that's not raining men.

I am! Who needs a sausage factory OR a sausage restaurant?

Club with chicks, club with chicks, keep out the d*cks.

Could the word " Hipster" be used as a metaphor for the color of the owner's skin. I happen to know the owner and he is a really good guy who just happens to be one helleva business man. You go Smittie!!

I've never met the man - couldn't tell you if he was Nepalese, Ugandan, or Bolivian.

But douchebaggy marketing, and being a bad neighbor transcend race, culture and language, my dear friends.

No, hipsters can be any race -- I picture lots of tats, perhaps a Shaggy beard, ironic t-shirts.

Hipsters are not the same as hip hopsters.

Hipster has absolutely nothing to do with race.

I don't really know why race is even being brought up. From the photo gallery of Milan that the Sun published it seems that the only people who go there are 19-21 year old white sorority girls. Go Kappas!

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Richard Gorelick was appointed The Baltimore Sun's restaurant critic in September 2010. Before joining the paper staff fulltime, he contributed freelance criticism and features articles about food to area and regional publications. Along the way, he dispatched for short-distance trucking companies, shilled for cultural non-profits, and assisted in cognitive neurology research – never the subject, always the control.

He takes restaurants seriously but not himself, and his favorite restaurant is the one you love, too.
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