I read your list in today's paper and was surprised to see no one suggested a foot long hot dog at Ann's Dairy Creme on Ritchie Highway in front of Marley Station Mall. My parents took me there from the time I was eight or nine and my wife and I still love the food more than fifty years later.

On your next list please list some other places that cater to Orthodox Jews. The Liebes chopped liver and Rosendorf Challah at Seven Mile Market. Also, homemade cold cuts and hot dogs at Wasserman and Lembergers. Try bagels with anything at Goldbergers in Pikesville.

Feel free to post these good suggestions on the original list. Then they will be part of it. EL

Where is Lee's Ice cream? I ADORE the Arbuckle's Delight and they have many other unique flavors.

I'll repeat my comment, or at least the message behind it, since I think it deserves repeating.

I don't think going somewhere to "make fun of the hipsters" has any place on that list. It has nothing to do with food, first of all. And I think the whole idea is tired and frankly, stupid. I'm really surprised it made the list and think it's beneath the tone of the article. It certainly should be beneath the tone of the author/editor.

How did everyone score? I got a 68 and am feeling pretty pleased about it.

baltimoregal, what is your problem? this list was compiled a while back and there was some lighthearted joking. the "author" was "us" not Elizabeth.

while the pictures are nice, is the list on one page still available? that's a lot of clicking to go through everything on there.

Let me see what I can do. EL

Read your 100 Foodie Things. Number 7 was Maryland Beaten Biscuits but no information about where to purchase them. Many years ago we purchased them on the way to OC but where can you buy them now?

Mr. Birnbaum, while we have at least one regular who keeps a kosher kitchen and a couple regulars who have kept kosher at some point in their lives, we don't have a regular who is Orthodox. We could use that viewpoint around here.

Although a captcha of "reliving lard" isn't going to help. Really.

Atmosphere is part of dining. Mocking hipsters is part of the atmosphere.

If you can't beat 'em, mock 'em!

21.5 for my score. And isn't it tacos from the truck on Broadway, not tamales?

nice work Sandbox, I enjoyed looking through the list! It appears I have a lot of work ahead of me...

hi to new reader, Laura, if you are reading this regularly now!

i got a 61...not bad considering i only moved here in 2002

good list....i added a bunch of the ones i haven't done to my "to-do" list that keep growing exponentially.

My problem is that I don't understand why it is OK to make fun of one neighborhood's residents, including the people who make and serve very good food. It certainly wouldn't be OK in the neighborhoods where you get lake trout or corned beef or even coddies.

And again, it has no real bearing on the food/drink's actual taste. Plus, picking on hipsters is so old. It's tired. And no, I'm not one. I'm too old!! But I'm tired of seeing nice kids treated rudely or like science experiments. There is such a thing as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Treat people like slackers and that's what they'll give you.

That's funny. I hear people in my neighbourhood mock people who eat lake trout and coddies all the time. Those people, you know.

When I was a kid, punks got teased. Same thing. Insufferably serious kids who think they have all the answers. Yeah, I was one once, too.

ok, first of all, you are 36. That is not old. And you actually could be a "hipster" if you chose to.

Secondly, it's not making fun of any neighborhoods resident's it's lighthearted banter about a couple of restaurant's clientele.

Nobody is treating anybody any kind of way. You need to lighten up, young lady.

"You need to lighten up, young lady."

This made me giggle, Joyce. I picture you as 90 (which I know you aren't), stooped over, and wildly wagging your finger.

I found this recipe for Beaten Biscuits: http://www.recipesource.com/baked-goods/biscuits/01/rec0197.html

I'm actually having a party this weekend and was planning on serving ham with biscuits. This would be perfect, but I just don't know that I have the arm strength! I bet my Kitchenaid Mixer would make them all wrong....

My score was 51. Exciting for me - several of the items I won't accomplish involve foods I just can't bear to eat (sorry liver, sorry raw fish)!
Fun list, thanks Sandbox.

Stacy what can I do but LAUGH?

This list has the potential to turn in to a kind of purity test, I think.

Summer, I think the axe is key. And if you use a mixer, you wouldn't achieve the full effect of trying to put Darlene's eyes out.

Thanks for that recipe, it should definitely go into the Dining@Large Cookbook.

That recipe is terrific. Thanks for sharing Summer.

Hi Ken. I'm Modern Orthodox and keep strictly kosher at home. While I generally find Goldberg's bagels too yeasty, their Black Russians rock. I agree Rosendorf makes an excellent challah, which we pick up at the downtown Whole Foods, though the very best challah I've ever had - way better than my own - is the raisin challah at Goldman's. Is it sacrilegious to say OMG? The best value out there, cost and calorie-wise, must be Kedem chocolate tea biscuits at 49 cents a pack and 16 calories per cookie. They're highly addictive, but the whole pack sets you back just 600-some calories. And for what passes for humor in our house, the label on Heinz cocktail sauce, fairly respectable right out of the bottle without any doctoring, features a big shrimp along with the hechsher.

don't want this to come out as being against kosher food options, but the list's purpose wasn't to cater to any particular group (other than food afficionados) nor make sure everyone could be included. if those kosher things are a quintessential part of baltimore food culture, then they belong, but otherwise you can't just add something to the list for equality's sake.

so much pot stirring today!

Laura Lee, I was worried there for a moment until I clicked on the link and saw that it was another Darlene who inspired such wrath. Whew!

Dahlink, that is why I checked it out also! i was wondering what you could have done to have made LL upset!

Bummer, "it's demoted"

Dahlink! I could never be angry with you.

I scored a 98, which is close to the scores I received in high school and college (UB Class of 2000 Cum Laude). EL, thanks for the inclusion on the list.

I want to know the two you missed. EL

I have far too few recipes in my repertoire that call for an axe...

47 list proper, 38 in the picto-gram; Chris, but I see your cum laude and raise you a manga (UB '05!)

But then again, it was in history. That hardly counts.
I did use my smarts to figure out that Trinacria trick, though.

sneaky that our comments from this morning were removed!

I agree with baltimoregal and similar comments. Even though these ideas came from us, there had to be some effort in pruning and editing these. staring at hipsters has no food/drink value. It's the same thing as going to your corner bar and staring at the old guy drink a bud light!

My other beef - many of these are not Baltimore-specific. Thrasher's is not Baltimore. If you want to include places 140 miles away, let's add places from DC, Philly, and anything else in range. I think Richmond, VA is 140 miles away!

What comments were removed? Or maybe I should have said, no comments were removed. My guess is that you've gotten confused because there were three different places about this you could have posted under. EL

Summer, that would make one heckuva Top Ten list.

Dahlink and LL, hope you got my tongue-in-cheek under tone to previous comments. One, I can't imagine LL ever getting angry. Two, I can't imagine Dahlink ever doing something to make someone angry.

baltimoregal, there have long been complaints on this blog about the hipper-than-thou attitude of the staff at both Rocket to Venus and (especially) Golden West Cafe. That both happen to be in Hampden is an interesting coincidence at best, but that fact ought not be used as an excuse to deflect criticism away from the shortcomings of the staff.

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Well said, hmpstd! My experience is snotty, incompetent, uncaring service, not "nice kids." YMMV.

uh oh, here's another one I can't resist!

"drabbest wife"!

Let me try to offer some counsel to those of you -- you know who you are, or ought to -- who are unduly sensitive or who lack any sense of humor. You will not be happy here. The comments are freewheeling, the whimsy omnipresent. This blog is self-policing -- people who are snarky and unpleasant get called on it -- but its playfulness will not be kept down. The Internet is a big place, with lots of locations where the humorless find their own kind. You'd be happier there. We wish you well. Bye.

Thank you, Mr. McIntyre--well said. And Trixie and Laura Lee, I knew tongues were firmly planted in cheeks.

Should Summer meet Lissa for some kitchen tips, or is an axe too far from Lissa's machete?

Odie, very good. I had Prof. Lynn for Intermediate Accounting I and II and it was very hard to get an A from her (I scored a B in each).

Wow, once again the commenter club gangs up against a valid dissenting opinion.

Look, I've been known to be involved in a hipster joke. And it is one thing to tell them on blogs, or complain about service. But it's another thing when it makes a major newspaper article that will get passed around to people, including those from out of state. I still go back to my main premise (and thanks to baltimoreeater for getting it) that making fun of a neighborhood's residents has no place on a foodie list.

And I have never had bad service at either restaurant so either I'm doing something you aren't, or you are doing something I'm not.

baltimoregal, you seem to be mistaking a blog for a newspaper. Or, are you passing around a laptop out of state?

Lessee now, how does a "valid dissenting opinion" look?

"I think the whole idea is tired and frankly, stupid. I'm really surprised it made the list and think it's beneath the tone of the article. It certainly should be beneath the tone of the author/editor."

Seems to me that the commentariat has been a lot gentler with baltimoregal than baltimoregal has been with anyone involved in this operation.

McIntyre, you are my hero!

Captcha: dundalk pounds

Really?

Oh great, now even the comment verification process is making fun of a neighborhood's residents.

Captcha: guilford elites

Well put, Prof JMc!

evolve Batkin

Captcha: Bacon good

My valid dissenting opinion can beat up your valid dissenting opinion!
Captcha: ovary 1973-1992

I work close to the Mexican food trucks on Broadway. Anyone know if they're worth a visit and if so what to get?

Also, this captcha thing is totally played out now. Captcha was sooo three weeks ago.

I've had tacos from one of the trucks on Broadway. They were good. I still prefer Sinaloa, but I wouldn't turn up my nose at the trucks.

Lissa, the comment about "hipsters" was in the newspaper not just on the blog.

Like baltimoregal, I am pretty tired of this kind of bashing of what is, yes, restaurants in my neighborhood that I patronize frequently. Am I hipster? Please, define for me exactly what you think one is and I'll tell you.)

It doesn't come off as funny. It's just mean. And I know it's easy to be mean on the internet but remember you are talking about real people and their real livelihoods. It can't hurt to take a moment and think before you post something you think is funny.

Yes, this is the Internet, and no one may say anything negative about anyone or anything, or, worse yet, make a joke.

I know Prof. McIntyre is being ironic, but too much sweetness and light (much as I adore same) will make us gag.

Time to wind this up, I think. Let me see if I can arrive at a statement on which all parties can agree.

baltimoregal, you and those who have posted agreeing with you do not care for our tone on this blog. Symmetrically, we do not much care for yours. You and the others do not seem disposed to change; neither do we.

This is the point at which the counselor suggests that a separation would be the best thing.

I'm gonna take my blog and go home.

Hipster explained courtesy of wikipedia,

"Hipster... describe types of young, recently-settled urban middle class adults and older teenagers with interests in non-mainstream fashion and culture, particularly alternative music, independent rock, independent film, magazines such as Vice and Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.[1]"

Compared to most other restaurants in Baltimore the hipster subculture is disproportionately represented at Golden West and Rocket to Venus. Baltimoregal or lisah, would you disagree with that?

Like any stereotype nobody fits perfectly into the prescribed boundaries and people don't like to be boxed in or feel like they can be easily explained. None of us know yall personally so clearly the line "make fun of the hipsters" was not personally directed. The words were clearly intended in jest by people who do not consider themselves hipsters, so although you were offended I don't think that was the reason. I would never use the word "bashing" to characterize that picture title.

Clearly the word bashing has to do with some past experiences you all have had. Don't mix your past with this lighthearted caption.

A typical hipster trait is to look down on the mainstream group they consciously decided not to be a part of. Similarly, non-hipsters look down on people who judge them. The difference here is you two were offended while the majority was not. That's why John wants to end the argument by parting ways but you're not willing to do that because you still feel slighted and he could care less.

I don't think I have a concluding point. Just musing...

Lissa? You're 36? Sheesh! I have a kid your age!

(What are you doing referring to yourself as middle-aged? No more of THAT, Missy!)

take a deep breath everyone..it's gonna be ok. "MOM! He called me a poopy face!"

i tend to be in the grey area...i'm not exactly of the yuppie "ilk" nor am i of the hipster "ilk"...though i've been refered to as both *bowing*

i think while i tend to agree that the hipster bashing is old...so is any bashing....and trust me, "hipsters" bash yuppies just as much as the other way around. the quicker people stop giving a crap, the better off they will be imo.

i mean i also asked for a sports bar in mt. vernon for god sake. here's to blazing your own trail.

oh - and in reference to it being in this list....i guess i find it humorous more than anything.

I love the word "ilk".

We are all part of one of them, of some kind.

Eve, Joyce wasn't saying Lissa was 36, she was saying baltimoregal was 36.

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Things That Make It Hard To Root For The Baltimore Sun To Succeed

So I'm guessing you can't post expletives here? Re-post minus bad words:

There are some cantankerous, rude people here. Way to have a civil, mature discussion. If you've had bad service at Golden West recently, I'd be surprised, unless, of course, you're the type of person who is rude to waitstaff.

Also, I don't think the issue baltimoregal and others were having were that they didn't like what you people said, though you have been rude, but that the piece posted in the Sun blog was inaccurate and kind of rude. Is this blog meant to discuss something other than what is posted above?

Thanks for reposting minus the obscenities. EL

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves

Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

In my opinion, the original item doesn't bother me personally, because I surf and comment enough here to understand the context of it; however, I don't think it should have made it to the print edition, because of the lack of said context. The better way to put it would have been to say "observe Hampden's ecclectic personality at RtV or GWC" or something a little more neutral. Here in the blog... let it fly, but having it in the print edition of a major newspaper just doesn't seem right.

I think everyone jumped on baltimoregal a little too quickly here, particularly with the comment telling her to lighten up. It's not the first time I've felt that way either. Just a thought.

I fail to see how the item in question can be construed as a slam on Hampden. A slam on two restaurants in Hampden, maybe, but hardly a slam on Hampden.

Or has Hampden been overrun by hipsters while I wasn't looking?

I just KNEW that in this big wide wonderful Internet baltimoregal could find a site of like-minded people, attuned to the delicate sensibilities of hipsters, where those who agree with her can leave here to share her company and insights. This way to the egress:

http://sugarfreak.typepad.com/mobtownshank/2009/12/things-that-make-it-hard-to-root-for-the-baltimore-sun-to-succeed.html

JI: Why even draw attention to roadkill?

captcha: That's sixteen

John, why are you so intent on kicking off dissenting voices? Perhaps it is you who should leave the internets for a happier place where puppies and kitties all agree with you and go where you put them.

LOVED the list! I was surprised that I've done fewer than half of them; obviously, I should step up my game. I tore out the sheet so I can mark off items as they're accomplished. Some I can do with the spouse (31, 37, 62, 63), others will be solo (#3, 11, 36), and some won't happen (18-don't like mobs, 35-too poor, 38-ICK!, 37-ditto). MUST #84 be Cross St. Market? I've done it at Faidley's.

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because, El M, John loves this blog the way it is. Or it used to be anyway.

No one wants to stifle dissenting voices. If you doubt me, you can look at the dissenting comments on my own blog. Rude, insulting, strident remarks, however, have not been welcome here.

El M, I think it's more how it's expressed. If you look at kateebee/CantonKate's comment above, I think she probably won more converts to your position than baltimoregal did. But that may not have been what bg was trying to do. She may have just wanted to express how pissed off she was.

The 8:08 AM comment is quite inappropriate.

Thanks for the heads up. How stupid can people be? EL

I don't know, Hal. Generally, I'm all in favour of letting folks shoot themselves in the foot. I find this more pitifully amusing than offensive.

I won't be asking laintyomomma out on a date. That is probably quite a relief to them. I just can't take non-standard English.

Hal don't point out the juicy stuff until I've had a chance to read it! What did the comment say?

On a scale of, what offended these hipsters to things that are actually offensive, how offensive was it?

How else am I going to get you to go to your computer immediately when you get up? EL

Corey, since EL removed the comment, I'd guess she doesn't want it discussed here. This is the kind of thing best moved over to Facebook, where we can be really offensive and wild, and discuss things like scrapple.

Actually I don't care if it's discussed. Somehow that seems OK, but just leaving it there didn't. Not very rational of me. EL

Corey, it was just a garden-variety homophobic slur. Complete with bad grammar.

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A gentle suggestion: by taking the 2 x 4 off her shoulder, having a sense of humor and minding her manners, baltimoregal would enjoy this blog far more.

Hi Elizabeth, I really enjoyed reading your article in Wednesday's paper. I have three more to add to the list. The Sobo Cafe on Cross Street in Federal Hill. Great food and wine; reasonable prices; menu changes frequently. The Paper Moon Diner at 227 W. 29th Street in Baltimore. The food is great; the decor is eccentric and very creative; this place is a must. G&M in Linthicum for crabcakes they make the best crabcakes we've had anywhere; we order and do takeout, delicious. They also have dining there.

Hal, I'm sorry to hear that the poster used a garden-variety homophobic slur. C'mon bigots, get creative with your hate speech!

I suspect it was a poor attempt to say that if we could poke fun at hipsters, she could poke fun at lesbians.

Because some folks are just born hipsters, you know.

As a minority, I do appreciate creative hate speech much more than garden variety, 3rd grade level playground slurs. It shows thought and effort. I really do appreciate that.

I think it was a direct hit at you (Lissa) or me. I really do think Elizabeth should have left it up though. Because it was pretty moronic.

Yes, but even if it didn't offend you, it was going to be really, really offensive to someone. And anyway, it's the Sun's blog, so I'm sure the higher ups would also weigh in. EL

The higher ups read this blog?

I was told to change the photo on the X-rated ice cream post. EL

No, we certainly don't want people to be offended. Just open minded.

Elizabeth, I believe your blogs popularity has brought unwanted attention!

That photo was hot! Much classier than the Page Three Girls, too.

It certainly increased my circulation.

i think taneytown deli in catonsville and also on york road should be added in for some consideration. the "overstuffed" sandwich is one of the best if not the best in the area.