All that Jazz

Bucky sent me an e-mail earlier today that said in its entirety:
"Where does the Jazz apple rank on your list?"
I knew that this blog had introduced him to the Honeycrisp, which somehow has given me the aura of an apple expert, but I had never thought about having an apple list before. If I did it would look something like this:
1) Honeycrisp
2) Fuji
It's not that I have anything against any other varieties (except Red Delicious). It's just that I start eating those two and before I get bored with them suddenly apple season is over. ...
I don't remember seeing Jazz apples at the farmers markets or in the supermarkets around here, but then I haven't been looking for them. I know nothing about them except that a fresh Washington crop is available in November, and maybe that's why Bucky is getting them now.
While I was mulling this over I got a second e-mail:
"OK…this is weird. I pulled my Jazz apple out of the bag but when I looked at the little label, it says, 'American Cameo.' So now I need to go back to the store and see what’s up. I’m positive I pulled it from the bin that says, 'Jazz Apples.' (The American Cameo tastes like a Delicious to me…)"
That reminds me to check those little labels myself. Nothing worse than expecting an edible apple and getting a Delicious.
That was immediately followed by a third e-mail:
"I found this on the Cameo: 'The Cameo is a cultivar of apple, discovered by chance by the Caudle family in a Dryden, Washington orchard in 1987. Its parentage is uncertain; it may be a cross between a Red Delicious and a Golden Delicious…'
"Know what that means? I am apparently developing an apple palate. (See previous email.)"
I had one wild moment of thinking he meant all that was written on the little sticker on his Cameo apple, and I was wondering whether he used a microscope to read it. But then I realized he must have Googled "Cameo apple."
The idea of Bucky's developing an apple palate seems a little, what's the word, incongruous.










Comments
Kingston Black
Dabinett
Yarlington Mill
(but those three ain't for eatin'!)
Seriously, though...
Pacific Rose
Pink Lady
Honeycrisp
Fuji
Cortland
Golden Delicious
Red Delicious
Gala
Granny Smith
Posted by: Odie B | November 4, 2009 5:05 PM
Red Delicious are inedible.
I'm fond of Fuji, Empire, Northern Spy. As a kid, I loved Jonathans and Macintoshes, but the latter seem to have been crossed with Red Delicious and I've not seen the former in years.
Posted by: Lissa | November 4, 2009 6:54 PM
I really don't know one apple from another but I like those small sort of pinkish ones to eat. I'm not overly fond of apples but those are better than the others IMHO.
Posted by: Joyce W. | November 4, 2009 7:11 PM
The only blog I'll ever need turned me on to the Pink Lady apple. A new fave. Will not check out Honeycrisp and Fuji. Till TOBYEN, my list stopped at Macintosh, Granny Smith and whatever apple happened to be in the pie.
Posted by: jl | November 4, 2009 7:23 PM
The stupid blog software made me say "not check out" when in fact I quite plainly meant "will now check out".
When the heck are they going to get the Internet fixed!
Posted by: jl | November 4, 2009 7:43 PM
Like jl, I first learned of the Pink Lady on this blog. It is my favorite but when late summer rolls around, they (along with Cripp's Pink, which is the same apple, but without the licensing and marketing costs) disappear from our grocery stores.
EL's recommendation of the Honeycrisp as a substitute was appreciated because it seemed to arrive in stores at about the same time Pink Ladies disappeared.
Having been raised on Red Delicious apples--the roast beef, medium of pomaceous fruit--these two recommendations opened a whole'nother world for me.
That's why I call Elizabeth, "Dr. Apple".
Posted by: Bucky | November 4, 2009 7:52 PM
Pomaceous fruit.
Well I'll be a suck-egg mule. Bucky, you've been hanging out with McIntyre (which, as far as I know, is not any type of apple ... yet).
Posted by: jl | November 4, 2009 9:09 PM
I eat a Red Delicious everyday.
Posted by: Michelle Brown | November 4, 2009 9:23 PM
Still a devotee of Stayman Winesap
Posted by: City Redux | November 4, 2009 9:50 PM
Another Red Delicious hater here.
I like the taste of Fuji's, but don't care for the thick peel (and am too lazy to peel them), so I don't get them often. I like Gala, Braeburn, Empire, Jazz, and some other ones whose names are escaping me at the moment.
I never buy Pink Lady apples because they seem to always be really large, and I prefer a more normal sized apple.
I like Honey Crisps, but I greatly dislike the marketing strategy of restricting supply to keep the price higher. I rarely buy them because I don't want to encourage the apple cartel.
Where do you buy Jazz? EL
Posted by: Hal Laurent | November 4, 2009 11:09 PM
My husband's favorite eating apple is the Rome Beauty, and they have been increasingly difficult to find around here. He was ecstatic when we found them at the Waverly market.
Did anyone else catch Michael Pollan talking about the evolution on the apple (and other plants) on PBS a week or two ago? It was fascinating--I knew people used apples for cider, but I had no idea few people ate apples way back when because they were mainly sour. The sweet eating apple is a modern invention.
Posted by: Dahlink | November 5, 2009 6:15 AM
Honeycrisp apples are so good it's unfair. One of my buddies told me scientists only know one of honeycrisp's two parent strains. It's impressive that honeycrisps have come so far, considering they grew up in a broken household.
Posted by: Sam Sessa | November 5, 2009 6:36 AM
Where do you buy Jazz?
I've bought Jazz apples at the Canton Safeway, although they don't have them all of the time. I believe I've gotten them at Whole Foods in Harbor East on occasion as well.
Posted by: Hal Laurent | November 5, 2009 7:45 AM
I'd rather eat broken glass than a Red so-called Delicious (well, almost...) Mealy, tasteless, ick!
I'm a big fan of Mountaineer apples, grown in West Virginia, as well well as Golden Delicious, Stayman Winesap, Pink Lady, Spy, and Honeycrisp.
Posted by: Baltofoodie | November 5, 2009 8:57 AM
I love Jazz apples. I get them at the Superfresh at the first exit off 83 North. The Superfresh closer to me (41st Street) does not seem to carry them. They are expensive ($2.49/lb) bu smart shoppers know how to reduce the cost on produce.
It's definitly right up there with Honeycrisps for me although the apple is smaller. All these comments make me want a Pink Lady as it's been a while (my Finacee's favorite). The oddly sell them at my work's Cafeteria (USPTO) @$0.99/lb.
Posted by: Matt K | November 5, 2009 9:12 AM
Honeycrisps are the truth!
Never had that Jazz or a Pink Lady. Would anyone recommend them over a Honeycrisp? Can you improve on perfection?
Posted by: Corey | November 5, 2009 9:23 AM
I'm just amazed at all the Red Delicious hate...
I was raised on that apple and while it's not the top of my list anymore, it's still delicious to me.
The sound it makes when you bite, the crispness of the flesh, and the juice that is contained...
Red Delicious...I mean it's in the name!
Posted by: Odie B | November 5, 2009 9:47 AM
Matt K wrote: They are expensive ($2.49/lb) but smart shoppers know how to reduce the cost on produce.
You can't just leave that hanging, Matt. How?
Posted by: Bucky | November 5, 2009 10:09 AM
I refuse to eat road apples.
Posted by: RayRay | November 5, 2009 10:10 AM
i'm betting matt k's method would better be described as "unscrupulous shopping" rather than "smart shopping". i hope i'm wrong.
Posted by: unbelievaboh | November 5, 2009 10:49 AM
They are expensive ($2.49/lb) bu smart shoppers know how to reduce the cost on produce.
What? Change the little stickers? I hope that's not what you're talking about.
Posted by: Eve | November 5, 2009 12:11 PM
When I was a child, my parents would drive to Browning's Orchard in Fleming County, Kentucky, every fall, and buy two tremendous bags of apples, one of winesaps and one of jonathans. We stored them in a cold room and ate them for weeks. Actualy, we usually ate the winesaps and used the jonathans in cooking. I wish I had a cache of them now.
Posted by: John McIntyre | November 5, 2009 12:13 PM
jl, "pomaceous" is from the Latin "pomum," or apple.
Posted by: John McIntyre | November 5, 2009 12:16 PM
I like Cortland apples but they're so big I need to skip lunch in order to finish one. I mostly get Pink Lady or Braeburn.
Posted by: Eve | November 5, 2009 12:16 PM
Yeh, I have been known to try out an apple type by placing it into a bag containing other apples.
I did write in jest as I need a bit of a pick me up this morning. But Jazz apples are pretty good. I wouldn't say they are better than the Crisps but it's definitly worth trying one out.
Posted by: Anonymous | November 5, 2009 12:22 PM
I like the Golden Delicious, but not the Red. Also like Granny Smith and Gala too.
I will check out these others you all are mentioning
Posted by: PCB Rob | November 5, 2009 1:06 PM
granny smiths and a jar of crunchy pb = my ultimate comfort food
Posted by: unbelievaboh | November 5, 2009 1:25 PM
A hungry stomach cannot hear
Posted by: Jean de La FONTaine | November 5, 2009 2:32 PM
Prof McIntyre wrote: jl, "pomaceous" is from the Latin "pomum," or apple.
I love it when I can pair Latin and a made-up word like "whole'nother" in the same sentence.
Posted by: Bucky | November 5, 2009 2:55 PM
I think we Dining@Large bloggers should develop a press release declaring xenocide on Red Delicious apples.
Posted by: Corey | November 5, 2009 3:10 PM
Uh...xenocide...may I have the derivation, Prof. McIntyre?
Posted by: Bucky | November 5, 2009 3:15 PM
Jazz™ apples were created in New Zealand and they are a cross between Braeburn and Royal Gala. The scientific name is Scifresh, and the marketing name is Jazz™ which is owned by ENZA. They are now grown in New Zealand and also Washington State so that they can be on the retail shelves 12 months a year. They are a fabulous crisp, sweet-tangy, juicy apple. They are an apple with Attitude!
Posted by: NZ Jazz Apples | November 5, 2009 4:37 PM
Dahlink, I stopped at the Canton Safeway on the way home and spotted Romes, as well as Honeycrisp, Pink Lady, Gala, Fuji and others. Didn't see any Jazz there today.
Posted by: Hal Laurent | November 5, 2009 5:49 PM
Thanks, Hal--noted!
Posted by: Dahlink | November 5, 2009 7:37 PM
You can find out where to buy Jazz apples on their website. www.jazzapples.com
Posted by: Anonymous | November 5, 2009 9:50 PM
My fave is Stayman Winesap, but most any more-tart-than-sweet apple works for me.
A couple of days ago I made a double batch of apple-based "mincemeat" using Rome and McIntosh; mmmm-BOY is it tasty! The first "official" use will be a pie on Thanksgiving. It's also a wonderful toppng for smearcase.
Posted by: Dottie | November 5, 2009 11:50 PM
Bucky,
The word originated from Orson Scott Card and it is the act of causing the complete extinction of an entire species.
Posted by: Corey | November 6, 2009 7:49 AM
What's the latin for road apple? Pomme de strada?
Posted by: jl | November 6, 2009 8:02 AM
Huzzah for Mountaineers! Also a big fan of Nittanys, which are similar. And I do like Mutsus.
Posted by: Volker | November 6, 2009 11:49 AM
Dottie, what is this "smearcase" of which you speak?
Posted by: Eve | November 6, 2009 12:23 PM
Recently tried an apple developed in British Columbia- Ambrosia.
My new #1 snacking apple.
Sweeter and smaller than Honeycrisp.
1.Ambrosia
2.Honeycrisp
3.Golden Delicious
4.Winesap
5.Gala
Posted by: Pilsman | November 6, 2009 4:52 PM
has anybody been able to try the SweeTango?
Posted by: Bucky | November 6, 2009 5:19 PM
Eve, smearcase is an old Baltimore desert, kind of like a not very sweet cheesecake. Hohn's Bakery in Highlandtown has it. Good stuff.
Posted by: Lissa | November 6, 2009 6:54 PM
It appears that to the Pennsylvania Dutch (and probably the Germans) "smearcase" means cottage cheese (or, I suspect, farmers cheese).
In Baltimore the term has come to refer to the cheesecake-like product that Lissa describes, rather than just the ingredient.
Posted by: Hal Laurent | November 6, 2009 8:02 PM
I have to find a recipe for smearcase. It'd be awesome with bittersweet chocolatedrizzled on top and a few fresh red raspberries.
Posted by: Lissa | November 6, 2009 8:16 PM
It appears that to the Pennsylvania Dutch (and probably the Germans) "smearcase" means cottage cheese (or, I suspect, farmers cheese).
In Baltimore the term has come to refer to the cheesecake-like product that Lissa describes, rather than just the ingredient.
Posted by: Hal Laurent | November 6, 2009 8:24 PM
I suspect it's farmers cheese too, Hal. The cottage cheesy kind though, because Giant sells something it calls farmers cheese that's a hard cheese of some type.
Posted by: Joyce W. | November 6, 2009 8:35 PM
mmmmmmmmmm, cottage cheese and apple butter
Posted by: unbelievaboh | November 6, 2009 9:30 PM
I had a very tasty Jonathan from Baugher's of Westminster at lunch today. From Eddie's on Eager Street, FWIW.
Posted by: Volker | November 9, 2009 6:07 PM
McINTOSH APPLES RULE!
JONAMACS ARE GOOD TOO.
PINK LADIES & GALA ARE NICE.
CAMEO'S ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEWEST APPLE.
RED DELICIOUS TASTE YUCKY BUT ARE EVIDENTLY THE HEALTHIEST.
NEVER HEARD OF JAZZ.
Posted by: E Mack | November 23, 2009 12:49 PM
Welcome, E Mack.
I'm sure you weren't meaning to shout, but that is what all caps means on the Internet. I'm hoping you stick around, and you'll blend in a lot better if you use mixed case.
If it tastes yucky, I don't care how healthy it is.
Posted by: Lissa | November 23, 2009 1:42 PM
Saw the jazz apples at Publix this weekend so I bought some. Pretty tasty, but I think I like the gala and granny smith better.
captcha: 18th-century deadest
Posted by: PCB Rob | November 23, 2009 1:57 PM