Donna's to install lift for disabled customers
A story just posted about Donna's in Mount Vernon agreeing to install a lift to make it and Indigma next door handicapped accessible reminded me that accessibility isn't something we've discussed here before. All restaurants built now follow code, but I'm not sure what the law is for older places. Does the Justice Department have to wait for complaints?








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Back in the 80s when I worked at the Science Center, we had to make everything Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) compliant.
I would think that any public estabishment would have to make their places ADA-compliant. Besides, advertising being ADA-compliant-friendly might bring more customers.
Posted by: PCB Rob | September 29, 2009 7:17 PM
FL Rob, it gets a bit trickier with buildings that are 100 years old or more. Making them accessible without desecrating historical architecture can be challenging.
Posted by: Hal Laurent | September 29, 2009 7:33 PM
Hal,
I didn't know that, and not being familiar with Donna's, I didn't know they had those issues.
Posted by: PCB Rob | September 29, 2009 10:08 PM
I know of a couple of older church buildings in my area that had to be retro-fitted with elevators and I know the fire hall can no longer be rented in our area because it has no lift or elevator. I'm guessing there's a clock ticking on how long places have to comply.
Posted by: Joyce W. | September 30, 2009 4:56 AM
I spent a lot of time back in the 90's with a yard stick making sure there was 36" between the stacks so wheelchairs could get through. A lot of library staff were upset about having to comply with ADA, but I still think it is a good idea.
Retrofitting is expensive and can be difficult, but having to visit a restaurant before taking a friend in a wheelchair there is a major pain.
Posted by: Lissa | September 30, 2009 5:58 AM
If I remember correctly, there was a problem with the late, lamented Marconi's because the only way in for wheelchairs was through an alley in the back.
Also, The Chameleon wasn't accessible to a friend who used a walker [and now a scooter]; he had to pull himself up the stairs hand-over-hand. Exiting was no easier. As much as he loved the restaurant, he had to forego returning because he couldn't handle the steps anymore.
Posted by: bra1nchild | September 30, 2009 10:06 AM
Lissa, besides the 36" minimum width for aisles there are also Life Safety Code requirements for fire exits that mandate a 44" minimum width for main exit aisles and 36" for aisles that feed into main exit aisles. During one office revamp I actually lost half of my eighth of a window because the entry to the cubicle next to mine was about 5" shy of the 36" requirement. We had to move my whole cubicle to make up the difference. Since I was the local Safety and Health adviser I couldn't really argue about it.
bra1nchild, the ADA ramp requirements require relatively flat ramps with limits on how long they may run without a flat landing. I found this out when I helped build a ramp for a wheelchair-bound friend to get him from his garage floor to the two-step-up entrance to his new house.
Posted by: Retired in Elkridge | September 30, 2009 10:36 PM
My husband just attended a conference in Europe, and was astounded that the large conference room had only ONE exit. If there had been an emergency, people would have been trampled.
Posted by: Dahlink | October 1, 2009 6:04 AM
Just make sure all the strip clubs are all handicap accessible, that's the important thing.
Posted by: Mag56 | October 1, 2009 1:29 PM
Dahlink, in this country Occupancy Limits are based, in part, on the number of exits and their capacity. Can't speak for Germany or the EU. And people do get trampled even when there are adequate exits. Remember: In case of emergency, walk, don't run, to the nearest exit.
Posted by: Retired in Elkridge | October 1, 2009 9:57 PM
RiE, the other thing my husband noticed about the location of the exit in this conference hall is that it was right in front of the stage. No sneaking out unnoticed!
Posted by: Dahlink | October 2, 2009 6:36 AM
Spam at 6:18 AM! (Yup, it's that same UK shiller of vitamin supplements.)
Posted by: hmpstd | November 13, 2009 6:28 AM