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June 2, 2009

Do restaurants reuse bread and butter?

RestaurantRolls.jpgThis is a question I wish I had asked first on my blog, but the BA Foodist beat me to it. I've never questioned anyone in the biz who would actually know because I don't believe they would tell me the truth. Is that cynical of me?

The waste worries me. (Not that any bread and butter ever goes to waste on my table.) But the idea of recycled bread and butter makes me a little queasy. I wish nice servers would offer a doggie bag so we could take the bread home.

I hate those stories of people who stick their fingers in the uneaten rolls so they can't be reused, though. It seems so dog-in-the-mangerish.

(Nanine Hartzenbusch/Sun photographer)

Posted by Elizabeth Large at 4:17 PM | | Comments (43)
        

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I don't see the harm in reusing butter as long as it is sealed in a packet, and not open in a dish. Reusing bread is disgusting. I agree that restaurants should just let you take it home.

Once it hits the table, the chain of custody is broken - end of story for me.

There's more bread? You gonna eat that?

Restaurants have to LET you take leftover bread with you?

At some of the restaurants we visit, and the Original Steakhouse and Sports Theater is one, my fiancee always takes the bread home. They make it fresh there and is very good. Even if she eats all of her meal (kinda rare), she asks for a box for the bread and the servers are more than happy to oblige.

Bucky, while its a chain, you might want to leave room for this place if you come to Baltimore. Great steaks and gigantic screens showing sports, at least in the bar. Plus tasty beers too!

It would cut down on a lot of waste if servers asked the customer if they would like bread before bringing it.

It's funny, some people feel strange taking the bread (or at least asking for a box for it).

When we were growing up, our dad used to try to get our mom to put leftover rolls in her purse.

I'll throw leftover rolls in a to-go box if I'm already getting one, but I admit I don't really want to ask for a box just for rolls. I guess it feels cheap or something, though that's not quite the right word.

I heard that Chinese restaurants re-use the crunchy fried things.

I remember eating out

It's funny, some people feel strange taking the bread (or at least asking for a box for it).

My fiancee feels the same way, but 95% of the time she's taking some of her meal home anyway.

NotableM,
Triple J's Steakhouse down here has the most excellent bread that they used to serve without asking. With the recent downturn, they've started asking if you want some.

I worked out a country club, and it was routine practice to take the butter dishes/bowls off the tables and put them right in the cooler to be used again.

Remember several years ago when The Prime Rib got in trouble for reusing bread and baked potatoes?

I definitely worked at a restaurant (not in Baltimore) years ago that reused bread slices that would come back in the bread baskets. GROSS.

This is kinda gross, but growing up, when my parents and pretty much all the adults I knew, would put their cigarettes out in any unused food, so that it wouldn't be reused. This practice persisted through most of the 70s, as I recall.

These days, people can't do that, unless you are down here and dining in an open-air (on the beach) restaurant. Then again, down here, people tend to finish their french fries.

It would be worth finding out if any of the restaurants "recycle" their leftover bread to food kitchens or pantries.

I know of one restaurant that reuses the uneaten bread (ewww, gross). It reappears as bread or is cooked into garlic bread.

PCBRob - that reminded me of the old school "Don't be a Dragon Lady" commercial - classic. They showed that a lot during Fat Albert, as well as the Jhoon Rhee "Nobody bothers me. Nobody bothers me either ". Ah, the good old days.

I'm pretty sure that it's not legal for them to use butter or bread that's been on someone's table. It's against the sanitation rules, in any case.

I worked at a restaurant in Little Italy years ago, and we definitely recycled the bread. We'd take the half-eaten loaves out of the baskets and combine them in one basket. It turns out two half-eaten loaves look like a whole one when you combine them! I thought it was gross, but we had to do it.

Bonnie - exactly. The health inspectors aren't inspecting the patrons (they probably should though - LOL)....

The delousing line forms on the left!

Most restaurants I've worked in throw out bread and keep sealed butter packets. I have seen a few make croutons out of leftover bread. Kind of gross.

I don't see why making leftover bread into croutons or garlic bread should be a problem. Or bread pudding. I'd do any of these myself at home.

I have worked as a server or bartender at four restaurants--tthree of which served bread. We never reused it--in the combined 10 years I worked at those places, I never saw it happen. Also, it would seem like good sense to wait until someone asks for bread before bringing it, but if a guest knows that bread is served and you don't arrive with it, they usually get a little annoyed. I would ask if they wanted additional bread, though, if they finished the first basket.

Lissa - my take is that when the food leaves the regulated hands/processes/etc. of a restaurant it cannot re-enter the preparation stream. They call it ‘chain of custody’ in the drug world. Since the patron’s activity is not regulated, who’s to say what happened to the bread while it was on the table? It could have been laced with .

Here's where D@L serves its readers. We're talking about recycled bread and butter. Which reminds PCB Rob of the freshly made bread at the Original Steakhouse and Sports Theater...where, he adds, the steaks are "great." I've never heard of the place so I look it up on the web -- and the menu is intriguing. Next thing you know, I will be there for dinner.

This is going back awhile, but I'm pretty sure that in one of Anthony Bourdain's books (this would be the same one in which he describes the horrible time he had working in Baltimore, somewhere near the harbor), he says with no shame whatsoever that he recycles bread.

Didn't Tio Pepe get some bad publicity for doing this a few years back?

Here's a good reference. Zip to page 28 of our state Health Code: "Except for packaged non-potentially hazardous foods with the wrapping intact, portions of food once served to a
customer are not served again". Reusing the bread is a health code violation. I suppose the butter issue depends on whether or not it is sealed and if it requires refrigeration or not. Have you ever looked at all of the bottles of whatnot on your restaurant table that say "Refridgerate after opening"? If "what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger" was completely true, we'd all be jacked, as they say.

I really doubt someone is going to lace my rolls with crack. I especially doubt this will happen and no one will notice.

Unintentional things happen as well... Ah-CHOO!

It took the water shortage of 2002 to make our customers accept that a glass of water should not be taken for granted; it was uncanny how much water we placed on tables that was poured down the drain.

I wish that folks would accept the idea that we will happily give them bread if they ask for it. We tried for a little while to do bread by request only, and people were furious. I find it disgraceful to throw away the bread, but there is no other legal or safe option. And we throw away a lot of bread.

Oh, and it is my understanding that the rumors about restaurants listed above re-serving items were all untrue. Notice how they are among the most prominent restaurants in Baltimore? It's like a nasty urban legend happening to someone like Peter Angelos (and you'd be surprised how many of those I have heard).

On a humorous note, I was with a bunch of relatives in Germany, and they wondered what would happen with table bread that was not eaten. The conclusion they all came to was that the bread was fed "to the pigs." No notion of where these pigs were in relation to the Greek restaurant in downtown Düsseldorf...(most of these folks were at least 60, so perhaps this was common practice in the day).

I once ate at the Tavern on the Green in NYC with a fairly large group (9 or 10). They charge you for bread and butter! (As do many restaurants in New York.) We were offended, and many rolls were stuffed in pockets and purses, I can tell you, if only for the principal of the thing.

Any germs from a sneeze will be taken care of in the baking.

I'm not advocating putting bread right back out there, but rather cooking it in some way first.

And just how sanitary is a roll stuffed into a pocket or purse?

Lissa - so you'd eat anything as long as it was "brought to temperature"?
Fear is not a factor for you, as Joe Rogan would say.

Eat anything? That isn't what I said, Bob UU. I said I had no problem eating left over bread that has been made into bread pudding, croutons or garlic bread or the like.

Yes, I'm assuming a certain amount of professionalism on the part of staff, that they'd toss out the bread from a table with lots of sneezing, bread that has been poked all over and such, but if I don't trust them to do that, how can I trust them on cross-contamination issues in the kitchen? Are they using the same cutting surface for poultry and veggies? How about knives? Are they properly washing the lettuce and spinach? Are they buying salmonella-infested commercial eggs, and, if so, are they cooking them long enough to kill the salmonella?

There are a lot of things to worry about when eating out. Economizing by transforming leftover bread and rolls into a cooked product worries me a lot less than hand washing, cross contamination, etc.

That was a question, not a statement, to see if you had limitations with what you would allow and what you would not be OK with in this area. Clearly you have limitations though, but effectively regulating the customer base to make sure they follow safe food handling of items that would be served over and over isn't possible. We can regulate what happens in the kitchen, but not at the table.

At any rate, I'm happy that the state health code does not allow serving the same food over and over again. If I had a nickle for every time I saw someone not wash up in the bathroom after they were done...

There is nothing that you can do to a sneezed on roll that would make it acceptable for me to eat.

There is nothing that you can do to a sneezed on roll that would make it acceptable for me to eat.

made me laugh out loud.

Reminds me of the old Alf show, where the wife would be about to serve some scrambled eggs to the family, but Alf would sneeze in the pan so he'd get all of it.

I knew a guy once that came from a large family, and as kids whenever one of them had to leave the table for a moment they'd lick the food on their plate to make sure nobody else snagged it.

In high school, I worked in a well-known, now-closed bar-restaurant in Govans as a busy-boy and kitchen help. We did not recycle bread or butter. However, among my duties in the kitchen was to help in making the Chicken Croquettes. Believe me, you never want to order a Chicken Croquette...

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Richard Gorelick was appointed The Baltimore Sun's restaurant critic in September 2010. Before joining the paper staff fulltime, he contributed freelance criticism and features articles about food to area and regional publications. Along the way, he dispatched for short-distance trucking companies, shilled for cultural non-profits, and assisted in cognitive neurology research – never the subject, always the control.

He takes restaurants seriously but not himself, and his favorite restaurant is the one you love, too.
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