Great. I'm now drooling all over my keyboard...

Although I didn't enter my views under the original post, I do agree with you,EL. And, further more, many actresses, singers, (people in the public eye) who are vegan or vegetarian have the clearest most unlined faces for their ages, I've noted. Yes, some have had the knife but not all. In addition, meat processed with hormones has been linked to everything from cancer to early puberty in girls. But, stealing from Weight Watchers, I still think, all things in moderation.

And, yes, I agree, that is one beautiful hunk o' meat!

I'm with Julia Child - everything in moderation. When I eat ice cream, I heat full fat, high fat really good ice cream. I just don't have it ever day, or even every month. When I have a steak, it is well marbled.

But, I also love and eat a lot of veggies, whole grains, beans, fresh fruit, etc.

There is a lot of really tasty stuff out there, and I want it all!

animal fats = bad thing seems pretty well documented

Where is that documentation? Actual scientific data, not opinions.

My doctor couldn't tell me. He just said it was obvious, like say, the Orioles blow. Well, there is actual data to support or refute that conclusion. Whatever happened to the null hypothesis in science? I'm not saying one thing or another is right, but I only trust hard data. One of the sages here must have a source, maybe Dr. Canon?. How about one of you vegetarians? How should have that one in your holster ready to go. Typically there is a review of the literature (which is always biased) on any topic such as this in a reputable medical journal. Although the conclusions are always suspect, since they are opinions, and the sources cited have selection bias, it's a place to start.

Looking forward to your reply. Thank you.

I refuse to get involved in this.

meat ≠ meat

I am in the details. Why don't you use an actual heart symbol? Writing it out looks goofy, especially when it's parenthetical.

♥

Respectfully yours,
Beelzebuddy

I've explained it before, you just weren't paying attention. What you can do in the commenting fields, I can't necessarily do in the headline field. Plus, I like using (heart) because I know it annoys you. :-) EL

If I believed everything I read about what is bad for me I would be eating through an IV bottle.

Plus, I like using (heart) because I know it annoys you. :-) EL

Thus the dance begins...

I knew I was going to regret that the minute I published it. But just remember I can with the snap of my fingers make you go poof! in a cloud of sulfurous smoke. :-) EL

There is nothing wrong with red meat that melting a pat of real butter over it won't fix.

My kind of guy. :-) EL

you can't post a picture of that beautiful hunka meat and not tell us where you got it.

It was taken at Michael's Steak & Lobster House. I didn't want to tempt you. EL

Thank you for worrying about our health, Ms. EL. Most of the men I know in their forties and above have cholesterol readings over 200, and some women as well. Thank you for the reality check, as the US beef industry has been flacking health and fulfillment forever. People may deny, but need reminding, that a diet focused on factory meat ingestion isn't the way mammals were designed to operate. I love a bacon cheeseburger, but have taken enough biochemistry and pathology to know animal fat is where a lot of bad stuff mammals are fed, including growth hormone and antibiotics, ends up. Crab mustard is the same situation--it's the floating hepato-pancreas where all of Allied Chemical's chromium dregs, Mississippi chemical industry waste and Perdue poop byproducts end up. The self-appointed snark patrol's sense of entitlement to diss your opinions is remarkable, especially when they are reasonable, learned and come from concern about your readers. Hey guys, play nice in the sandbox if you want it open and inviting to old and new friends and not just navel-gazing inside baseball. For Ms. EL and the dreadful Trib management to continue to offer this playground, it might be better for all to avoid fratricide and fragging.

Interesting that The Voice of Beef, James Garner (who I love. Doesn't his voice always sound as though he's about to go get himself into trouble?), has had quadruple bypass and a stroke. I hope those cow people sent flowers.

Joyce, I'm glad to see we have similar taste in meat.

I have a meat tooth.

Lissa, so many jokes...just not the place though! :)

So, Joyce, are you a fan of Saffire, the Uppity Blues Women? You should be, if you aren't. They are the masters of joyful innuendo.

Jeez ... you had to start this thread on a Friday, didn't you!

I will have to consult with my spiritual director to see if my discipline of not eating meat on Fridays includes not posting about it.

There is nothing wrong with red meat that melting a pat of real butter over it won't fix.

If I can't get to the grill, I like to broil that big chunk o' meat and then spread that pat of butter all over the crisped fat.

I will sometimes make a compound butter with bleu cheese if I'm in the mood and use that.

Lissa - yes ma'am they are indeed masters of innuendo!

a meat tooth!! hahahahhah awesome.

Bucky and Rosebud - I agree with you about spreading butter on a good cut of steak. And the crisped fat...It is terrible but sometimes I do look for a steak that will have that fat around the edges...Oh shoot, I think I just saw Richard Simmons pull up, I have to go.

I guess I'm in the minority here in finding that photo gross, but maybe that explains my low cholesterol level.

I love and adore Julia Child, but bear in mind that her dear and well-fed husband Paul died of heart disease and suffered from dementia.

There are times you just gotta' have red meat. After my daughter was born several years ago, I left my bride dozing happily in the hospital, then wandered out into the night, heading straight for what was then one of New York's best steak houses -- Henry Stampler's. "What," I asked the waiter, "is the biggest, juiciest slab of cow you've got?" and proceeded to demolish a 40 ounce porthouse. Down to the last tad of gristle. Sorry, vegans but that night, carrots, cukes and cauliflower wouldn't have cut it.

I adore the crispy fat on a nice hunk of red meat.

There is nothing wrong with a 4 oz steak once or even twice a week. I think those prepackaged, thaw and heat jobbies, or add water and nuke food surrogates are a lot less healthy.

They probably fund Saudi Arabia and the Taliban, too. And possibly Barry Manilow.

chowsearch wrote: Crab mustard is the same situation--it's the floating hepato-pancreas where all of Allied Chemical's chromium dregs, Mississippi chemical industry waste and Perdue poop byproducts end up.

I'm swearing off crab mustard. No, really. I am.

But sliced sirloin, slathered in garlic butter...mmmm. What a way to go.

Please. Let us put an end to this. It is a scientific fact than any food that is good for you tastes bad.

It is also a scientifically proven fact that most people ignore science.

They probably fund Saudi Arabia and the Taliban, too. And possibly Barry Manilow.

Saudi Arabia and the Taliban are one thing, but that's a pretty serious charge to accuse someone of funding Barry Manilow.

But sliced sirloin, slathered in garlic butter...mmmm. What a way to go.

Bucky, I hear you man. I just had dinner (quinoa with mushrooms, garlic, onion, spaghetti sauce and fire-roasted red peppers- I try to alternate my red meat days) but that sounds damn tasty.

I will confess that many years ago, when we had only one son, we were visiting the Midwestern branch of the family at Christmas, and when I asked the hostess what she was serving for dinner she said "Just steaks." My young son said "Mom, what's a steak?"
I'm sure they were horrified.

Watch it Hal! He IS music and he writes the songs. He will mess you up. Don't be fooled by the plastic surgery that makes him looks like one of the Golden Girls.

Exactly, Owl. Do you think cheek implants were involved?

I don't want to know what Manilow did with surgery. We haven't spoken in years -- not since I found out that in fact he did not write the song "I Write the Songs". Bastard!

Welp, Elizabeth, if that was a picture of a bison steak, it WOULD be good for you. Bison has less cholesterol than white meat poultry, and more iron (and other minerals which, thanks to "precocious senility" I can't recall at the moment) than beef. So go to Gunpowder Bison & Trading Co. in Monkton and grab yerself some bison.

Dottie, I bought bison from Gunpowder about 2 years ago and relished every cut! Very flavorful and much less gamey than I imagined it would be. Also a lot less tough than I thought it would be too. If my personal economy improves after the holidays (and a trip to Miami beach is covered) I might do it again.