Owner of 5-bedroom house hopes to downsize
Categories: For sale, Housing market experiences
You might be excused if, reading the paper today, you wondered what on earth is going on with the housing market.
On the one hand, there are owners of larger homes having a hard time downsizing because -- agents say -- it's a hard-hit part of the market. On the other hand, the Ritz-Carlton Residences just sold a nearly 12,000-square-foot penthouse condo -- a unit that was originally three separate penthouse condos -- for a record-setting $12.6 million.
Does the really, really high end have more going for it than the merely high end?
Before you start adding thousands of square feet to your home in hopes of attracting a buyer, remember that few have the financial heft of novelist Tom Clancy, who (The Daily Record reported in a keen scoop) is the buyer of the huge penthouse.
How big is 12,000 square feet? As big as five typical new U.S. houses.
But the prevailing trend is smaller, not bigger -- as you might expect during a prolonged downturn. Last year, the median new house was smaller than it was the year before, the first drop since 1995.
It might seem self-evident at any time, let alone four years into a housing downturn. But real estate agent Daniel V. Iampieri, director of career development with Weichert, Realtors - Caton Properties in Ellicott City, says he sees evidence that sellers still need to be reminded that a too-high asking price isn't going to do any good.
If your pricing philosophy is, "hey, somebody could pay that," he thinks you ought to reconsider.
"Anybody could do anything, but properties need to be priced at what somebody would pay for them," Iampieri. "I think we're starting to get there, but you still see a lot of properties [that] as an agent and as a buyer, you skip over. If your property isn't being shown, your price is too high."
Continue reading "How not to sell a house" »
I've heard some folks say they're doubling up with friends in rented space. Some are staying with their parents post-college; others are moving back in. Some folks are downsizing ahead of schedule. And some are staying put when they'd rather move.
What about you?
If there's one assumption about homeownership that was pretty universal before this decade, it's that you'll at least equal your purchase price when you sell. Now, though, many aren't managing that.
In the Baltimore metro area, more than a third of homes bought this decade and resold in the first half of this year went for less than the sellers originally paid for the property. That's not counting closing costs at either end, mind you.
I crunched data from the state Department of Assessments and Taxation to put together this analysis of resold homes. You can read the full story about selling at a loss here.
Want to see more statistics? Go here and here.
Did you sell a home for less or buy a home in this category? Share your tale.
Here's one couple's story:
Here's his tale:
The most important thing I learned from this real estate market is that I had to adjust my preconceived notions about where I would be happy living. At the beginning of our house hunt (we have seriously been looking for more than 3 years), we were only willing to live in the tonier parts of 21210, 21212.But we found that the sellers in those areas were--comparatively--the most unrealistic about price. I can't begin to describe the poor quality of the homes for which the owners wanted [more than] $230 [per square foot]--and all of them would have required at least $50,000 in repairs (not upgrades--repairs).
And of course, all of those neighborhoods are also car dependent--which I view as a negative. (Having lived in Mount Vernon for the past five years, I am not willing to give up my walking lifestyle.)
So where did they go instead?
Continue reading "Finding the right home in an unexpected place" »
She shares the story of Jordan Hamilton, 27, who moved to Maryland from Tennessee in October:
Initially he thought, "I don't want to continue to throw money away on rent," he said. "But then I had to weigh my options, and thought maybe I'm not throwing money away on rent. There were more pros to continue to rent for right now. I may not eventually be building any equity, and I'm worried about how much money I would lose if I need to sell it for a job move."
Any happy renters out there? Or are you in the aggravated-renter category?
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The boarded-up rowhome -- above, left -- is what Will Cocks, 28, saw when he signed a contract to buy. The prettified one that's above, right? That's what it looks like now.
The Bowie-turned-Baltimore resident is one of the people I interviewed for Sunday's housing-trends story, and I thought you all might enjoy the before-and-after comparison. (Photos taken by the new homeowner.)
Because Cocks agreed to purchase the Greenmount West home from a real estate investment company before rehab work began, he got to design "pretty much everything." And take lots of photos.
Here's a "during":
"I basically watched them build it from the framing up," said Cocks, who paid $265,000 for the home.
You can find a video here, if you're interested in seeing the interior.
Amy Lincoln MacDonald and husband Paul MacDonald, both in their 20s, also moved to Baltimore this year. Here's a photo of the home they sold in Glen Burnie for $215,000:
Continue reading "A tale of two Baltimore buyers (OK, three)" »
Sunday's Dream Home feature shines a spotlight on Ken Smith's six-room house in Kingsville. Not six bedrooms. Six rooms, total.
The size was part of the appeal for Smith, who liked the idea of an equally small heating and cooling bill and less space to clean.
This reminded me of an interesting conversation I had recently with appraiser Michael Casella, a partner with Muller-Casella Associates in Towson. Small -- or at least smaller -- is where the action is, he said.
"Two years ago, it was all about building a bigger one," he said. "'I can build a bigger one than you can.' Really in a relatively short period of time, it has stopped. There are areas where the 2,800 square-foot houses are selling for what the 4,000 square-foot houses are selling for."
He figures people are pricing in the electricity costs, taxes and maintenance, and opting for less than buyers did a few years ago. He also thinks a lot of people are downsizing.
(Want to look at Smith's small house? The photo gallery is here.)
The listing for the Ellicott City house pictured above is getting a lot of hits on Realtor.com, and you can probably see why. It's the sort of thing that people, once stumbling upon it, will forward to everyone they know with "can you believe this?!" in the subject header.
In a sea of Colonials and split-levels, a geodesic dome does tend to stand out.
I talked this week to real estate agent Kevin Willner, who represents the couple selling the home, and he said eight or nine people had been to see it since it hit the market two weeks ago. It's listed at $340,000.
What do prospective buyers think of the place, I asked?
"Either they love it or they hate it," said Willner, who is with ReMax Sails in Federal Hill and supplied the photo above. "One couple came in and it was funny -- he loved it, she hated it."
He passed this detail on to one of the owners, who quipped: "Well, that means we're halfway there."
Continue reading "For sale: three bed, three bath geodesic dome" »
Ask a real estate agent about schools, and you might get nothing more than a pained smile and a school-information website or two.
"I list homes in a neighborhood that boasts the highest rated schools in the country and I can't even say it!!!" one Virginia agent wrote on Trulia, in response to a frustrated buyer who wants to know why Realtors won't "answer questions regarding where the best schools are" near Bel Air.
Agents are afraid they're going to get into trouble with the federal Fair Housing Act, that's why. The law aims to stop housing discrimination, including the steering of people to or away from neighborhoods based on factors like race, gender and religion.
The National Fair Housing Alliance, putting agents to the test during the housing boom, filed complaints against real estate companies for allegedly telling white clients -- but not minority clients -- to avoid certain neighborhoods because of the schools.
"'Good schools’ and ‘bad schools’ are the new code words used by some real estate agents to discourage Whites from considering integrated neighborhoods," the alliance said in a 2006 press release.
Such testing -- and federal-complaint-filing -- has not gone unnoticed by agents. When I interviewed Realtors for today's story about the impact of school test scores on such non-classroom matters as home values, there was some squirming over the phone line.
Continue reading "What a real estate agent can and can't tell you" »
Rob started it with this comment:
I bought in Cecil County. More house for the money compared to nearly any county. 45 minute drive to Baltimore on most days...not so bad to save a bundle. Plenty of homes for sale up here. Come on up!
Mighty Mouse (I love the 'Net names you come up with for yourselves) followed up:
Rob - I'm glad you found a house you like in Cecil.Personally, I have yet to determine the quantifiable 'opportunity cost' (not gas) to permanently adding 1-2 hours a day onto my workday via commuting. (I've done both long and short commutes)
Right now I'm within a 15 minute walk from my office (2 minute drive). Previously I was commuting from Sparks to Annapolis everyday and I don't think I could go back to that - not even for twice the house...
On the other hand, my sister in LA has a 90-120 minute commute EACH WAY because she wanted to live away from the epicenter and is truly happy with her decision. (She has been doing the commute for 2 years)
But anyway, the point is that commute and distance from points of interest are an x-factor that I've never really been able to come to terms with during my house hunting. Does anyone have a distance to $'s ratio they use?
It's a good question -- there's no one-stat-fits-all answer. Mighty Mouse isn't talking about the dollar-and-cent commuting cost but rather the value of your time.
How far are you willing to drive every day for a house you like very much in all ways (cost included)? What are you willing to compromise on housing-wise for an ideal commute?
Have you found a housing/commute balance that suits you?
The typical household in the Baltimore metro area earns about $71,000. Buyers getting a low-down-payment FHA mortgage can comfortably afford a $250,000 house with today's rates as long as they make at least $65,000, by themselves or as part of a couple.
Some of you took issue with the "comfortably" that's placed oh-so-innocently right before "afford." Reader Jay, noting property taxes and other housing costs, wrote: "Wouldn't a $250K home in Baltimore City end up in monthly payments of 50% plus of a $71K income? Isn't that how the country ended up in the housing crisis that it's in -- people spending way more than they should on their homes?"
No question, Jay, that was a big part of the problem. (Also cash-out refinancing, but that's another story.) More about the "comfortably" in a moment. First, here's how I calculated affordability:
Continue reading "What's 'affordable'?" »
Josh Alexander asks:
Should I buy real estate in a down market? Our area has seen a drop in home prices, so is now the time to buy?
Frequent commenter Kevin R, meanwhile, writes in response to the "asking price" poll:
I'm a renter looking to buy. I was convinced that home prices would continue to drop this year and in to next year and decided to hold off buying. Wouldn't you know it, a great home with a close to reasonable price came on the market. In spite of my previous decision to wait, I put in what I thought was a fair offer on the home only to be outbid by someone offering more than listing price.While I said "yes" to answer this poll (as did half of voters), seeing the growing number of "Under Contracts" makes me wonder if asking prices are indeed too high. People are buying these homes right? Granted, I can't know what the contract price is until the home actually closes, but the point is that it looks like the market is moving. Am I missing the boat? I'd be interested to hear what other buyers on the sidelines are thinking and seeing out there.
Normally, the answer to "is it time to buy a home" is "it all depends on you" -- meaning, are you financially ready. Real estate professionals like to say you can't time the housing market. But it's not hard to see why some folks are worrying that prices will continue dropping if they do buy and start rising if they don't.
I've seen a lot of conflicting answers to Josh and Kevin's question. What do you all think?
Homebuyers and sellers are both looking to strike a deal, but by definition they're on opposite sides of the bargaining table. Buyers want the lowest price possible for the house they're eying. Sellers want the highest price possible. If you're in one of those groups and see the other as unreasonable people standing in the way of your dreams, well -- we're all human.
But you know, it doesn't cost you anything to see things from their point of view just a little bit.
You're a seller aggravated at buyers who keep tramping in to see your place but never make an offer? Well, imagine how they feel, going to look at house after house that doesn't suit or is priced too high.
You're a buyer annoyed at sellers who won't budge on price and haven't done a thing to the property since they bought it? Well, imagine how they feel, effectively trapped because they bought too much house and don't have enough money to replace the roof, let alone pay the difference between what you think is a fair price and what they still owe on their mortgage.
Sure, this doesn't apply to all buyers and sellers, but you get the idea.
Having a bit of sympathy for the person on the other side of the housing-market coin doesn't require you buyers to pay more than you think is fair, or you sellers to take less than you believe your house is worth. It just keeps you from forgetting that they're human too. It makes you think twice before you say or write something cruel.
Now, some of you would-be buyers are shaking your heads at me because you're angry at sellers. You're angry at homeowners, period, especially the ones who bought during the boom and thus helped run up the prices. You waited because you didn't want to buy something you couldn't afford. You waited, and you waited, and you waited. But here it is 2009 and you still can't afford anything and -- dagnabbit -- prices can't come down fast enough. Nothing would make you happier than hearing that homeowners are losing their shirts, and possibly their homes too. Serves 'em right, you say.
But here's the thing: Those folks who bought during the run-up in prices? Unless they were downsizing from something more expensive, they probably haven't seen any benefit from the frenzy -- particularly the poor souls who bought at the very peak.
Imagine, if you will, a couple very much like you would-be buyers. They also waited, and waited, and waited. Except they finally gave in and got an adjustable-rate loan and a smaller house than they had in mind because -- dagnabbit -- the longer they delayed, the higher prices went, and everyone they knew was telling them that waiting was exactly the wrong thing to do, and they couldn't believe they were still renting when they'd intended to buy three years earlier. And now here it is 2009, and they lie awake at night, wishing one of the three other buyers they had to outbid for their lousy place with the leaky basement would have gotten it instead.
(I invented this couple, by the way, but I'd be very surprised if they don't exist somewhere.)
There's plenty of housing-market angst to go around, that's what I'm saying. Plenty of renters and homeowners alike wish the housing bubble never happened.
And that's my modest proposal: Remember that you have more in common than it might appear at first glance.
Readers got into a spirited discussion last week about the value (or lack of value) real estate agents offer. This raises a larger question, I think: As a homebuyer or seller, what do you want from a Realtor? What would you consider good and helpful service?
And for you agents out there: What do you want from your buyer and seller clients? What behavior and expectations are reasonable?
To kick this off, here's part of a comment by reader Semiconscious: "My home hunting experience has taught me that I do all the heavy lifting. If I don't buy within the 1st 10 houses I see, the realtor starts to grumble. I've written several contracts so far, and a lawyer can do just as well as a realtor."
A recent opinion article about "buyer etiquette" by Renee Porsia, a Philadelphia Realtor, happens to address the same how-many-houses-are-enough issue from the other side:
Seeing 25 homes is not very good buyer etiquette and also just shows your Realtor that you really do not know what you are looking for in your new home. It will also only wind up confusing you and chances are, the home will not be there by the time you decide that you liked home number one. Viewing approximately 8-10 homes on average is plenty of homes to view.
And what's enough is just one issue. Should an agent and potential client set ground rules before doing business together? Would agents, buyers and/or sellers be happier if the agents were paid a set fee for specific services rendered over a specific time period rather than a commission at settlement?
Talk amongst yourselves. Talking through problems is the first step to solving them, right? Call it relationship counseling for the housing-market set.
One thing that totally annoys me about the Baltimore real estate scene is that the size of the house in square feet is not typically revealed in descriptions (for instance on Redfin). In other places we've lived, this information [is] right up front, and is critical to comparisons and part of the value calculation. I know I can do work to find it, but why?We asked our agent about this back when we were looking and the answer was, "We've never shown square feet in Baltimore."
I searched a few popular real estate sites and can see what she means. Redfin, for instance, has categories for square footage and cost per square foot, but they're mostly blank for Baltimore-area homes.
Still, there does seem to be some variation depending on the site. I couldn't find a mention of square footage for one listing on MRIS's HomesDatabase, but when I threw the MLS number into a search engine, Realtor.com had the answer (3,360).
Buyers, is square footage something you want to know upfront? Sellers, do you have concerns about including that information?
Update: Realtor Jonathan Benya has a succint explanation for why you often won't see square feet, but sometimes will. See his answer in the comments.
Some of you read blogger Epiphany in Baltimore and have followed his efforts to buy a home. (Thanks to the Wonk reader -- whose name now escapes me -- for pointing me that way. Let me know who you are and I'll credit you properly.) I thought it would be interesting to chat with him about his experience, since every buying story can help other would-be buyers … and often would-be sellers, too.
Throughout the interview below, I've included links to his blog for all who would like to see how each step unfolded in real time. And that's why I'm identifying him by his online name: He's a teacher whose personal blog links to a blog about his job, and he therefore prefers to stay anonymous.
Q. When did you close?
I just closed on Thursday! I've been living in the house for a couple of weeks, though, with a pre-settlement agreement.
Q. What did you end up buying -- the Baltimore rowhome rehabbed by St. Ambrose that you were serious about?
Yes, I ended up going with the St. Ambrose rehabbed rowhome in Belair-Edison. It's three-bedroom, with a balcony, finished basement, and a nice yard with a private fence.
Q. How much did you pay?
Q. Which "first-time buyer" grants and/or mortgage programs did you use? How easy or hard was it to line everything up? Do you have any advice for others?
Continue reading "Q&A: Epiphany in Baltimore" »
Continue reading "Baltimore homebuyer stuck in limbo" »
During our experience in buying a home in Baltimore City -- Fells Point/Butchers Hill/Canton/Federal Hill areas -- we found that the easiest common denominator to compare homes was price per square foot. City homes don't have that many variables. You get the rowhome and that's it. All you can compare is that rectangle plot of land and all of the livable space. We ended up plotting out homes we saw onto a graph and saw how the price/sq ft compared to one another. Then once we narrowed our search, we got the recent sales or comps in the area and did more comparisons. I'm not sure that Realtors have thought of this when they price homes, but there just isn't much variety in rowhomes aside from a rooftop deck or potential for a finished basement.
When it came down to it, we weren't going to pay a certain price for a 12-foot-wide place when you can pay the same price for a 14-foot-wide place. We might have over-analyzed it, but we ended up with a house at a good price point. Our offer price was determined in another spreadsheet, calculating final sale price (with concessions) versus asking price (both initial and current listing prices). This helped us put in an offer. The owner balked at the initial offer, but two days later, he accepted. It's hard to argue with numbers and hard data.
Continue reading "Baltimore homebuyer explains his method" »
Wonk reader Frank makes a good suggestion for future posts:
I'm interested in how people are deciding what to offer. Are they looking at comps? Is the appraisal coming in at the level of the offer? Is the real estate agent telling them what to bid? How are sellers deciding what price to take?
If you're a buyer or seller and would like to chat about your experience, leave a comment below or email me at jamie(dot)smith(dot)hopkins(at)baltsun.com.
If you read today's story about the housing market, you know that part already. But I thought the Rossbachs' experiences were illuminating, so read on if you'd like to know why two attorneys are having trouble getting a house in the Baltimore metro area.
Continue reading "Portrait of (would-be) Baltimore-area home buyers" »

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